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BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 11:45 AM
Just a heads up for those who think life in the land of the ethical generation is criminal free or that all crime in TV is committed by another generation.
The following is a map showing the locations of the 72 sex offenders within a 5 mile radius of LSL. Quite a few are Villages residents.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/TwistedMom007/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/TwistedMom007/media/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg.html)

birdawg
08-01-2013, 12:06 PM
The Sumter Cty Sheriff's website will give you all the info on these people. And these are just the registered ones

BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 12:17 PM
Laurel Bay Lane seems to be popular. Two in the same block!

kittygilchrist
08-01-2013, 12:23 PM
As a former child protection agent, I'm glad they have to register and be locatable.
On the other hand, you can become a registered offender by having relations with a
17-year old age mate and forgetting to break up before you celebrate your 18th birthday.

Bonny
08-01-2013, 12:28 PM
When my youngest was in kindergarten, 28 years ago, she would sometimes kiss the boys in her class. She would be labeled a sexual predator in this day and age !! :shocked:

graciegirl
08-01-2013, 12:32 PM
Just a heads up for those who think life in the land of the ethical generation is criminal free or that all crime in TV is committed by another generation.
The following is a map showing the locations of the 72 sex offenders within a 5 mile radius of LSL. Quite a few are Villages residents.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/TwistedMom007/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/TwistedMom007/media/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg.html)
ANd many are younger folks living with their parents. In the thread that you are referencing I didn't state that there was no crime here, but I do say that there is comparatively less crime here than most places in this country.

BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 12:43 PM
As a former child protection agent, I'm glad they have to register and be locatable.
On the other hand, you can become a registered offender by having relations with a
17-year old age mate and forgetting to break up before you celebrate your 18th birthday.

Depends on the state. Most states, age of consent is 16. Some states also throw in a caveat in regards to age of offender.
The age of consent in Florida is 18, but close in age exemptions exist. By law, the exception permits a person 23 years of age or younger to engage in legal sexual activity with a minor aged 16 or 17.
794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors.-- (1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose Florida code, Title XLVI, Chapter 794

CWGUY
08-01-2013, 12:47 PM
Just a heads up for those who think life in the land of the ethical generation is criminal free or that all crime in TV is committed by another generation.
The following is a map showing the locations of the 72 sex offenders within a 5 mile radius of LSL. Quite a few are Villages residents.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/TwistedMom007/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/TwistedMom007/media/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg.html)

72 in The Villages Area and 529 in Birmingham,Al. :shocked:

http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Birmingham-Alabama.html

BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 12:49 PM
72 in The Villages Area and 529 in Birmingham,Al. :shocked:

Registered sex offenders in Birmingham, Alabama - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this city (http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Birmingham-Alabama.html)

I don't live in the City of Birmingham. It's a crime ridden cesspool. In fact, there are only 2 (YES, TWO) in my whole ZIP CODE.
But nice try.

GaryW
08-01-2013, 12:54 PM
There is one living behind me in Bison Valley

kimball
08-01-2013, 01:12 PM
There is one living behind me in Bison Valley

Be on the alert, especially if you are under 80 years old

CWGUY
08-01-2013, 01:12 PM
I don't live in the City of Birmingham. It's a crime ridden cesspool. In fact, there are only 2 (YES, TWO) in my whole ZIP CODE.
But nice try.



Join Date: Feb 2013

Location: Birmingham, AL

Posts: 130

:( I didn't write that.... you did! :ohdear:

Patty55
08-01-2013, 01:15 PM
I think we have to remember that in all three cases the number of people who married their cousin/sibling at age 12 are excluded.

Hellooo, most of the offenders are not located in TV.

Golfingnut
08-01-2013, 01:21 PM
Wow, I would have thought there would have been more than shown. One more reason to live here. 100000 people and less than a dozen offenders. You won't find better stats than that any where in the world.

BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 01:23 PM
Join Date: Feb 2013

Location: Birmingham, AL

Posts: 130

:( I didn't write that.... you did! :ohdear:

Birmingham is the nearest big city. But since it is so important to you, I'll change it to North Shelby County, as I'm sure everyone will know where that is.

Bogie Shooter
08-01-2013, 01:32 PM
Depends on the state. Most states, age of consent is 16. Some states also throw in a caveat in regards to age of offender.
The age of consent in Florida is 18, but close in age exemptions exist. By law, the exception permits a person 23 years of age or younger to engage in legal sexual activity with a minor aged 16 or 17.
794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors.-- (1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose Florida code, Title XLVI, Chapter 794

Seems like a whole lot more information than needed!

Bogie Shooter
08-01-2013, 01:33 PM
Just a heads up for those who think life in the land of the ethical generation is criminal free or that all crime in TV is committed by another generation.
The following is a map showing the locations of the 72 sex offenders within a 5 mile radius of LSL. Quite a few are Villages residents.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/TwistedMom007/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/TwistedMom007/media/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg.html)

What Village do you live in?

Patty55
08-01-2013, 01:42 PM
Birmingham is the nearest big city. But since it is so important to you, I'll change it to North Shelby County, as I'm sure everyone will know where that is.

I don't even know where Alabama is, don't do the middle.

BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 01:42 PM
I don't live in TV yet, the home I own is in Palo Alto. Why?

rubicon
08-01-2013, 01:45 PM
At one of the POA meetings a few year back one of the members complained that a sex offender rented a house next to hers. She complained the sex offender moved and the owner rented to another sex offender.

so I am wondering how many of the sex offenders in The villages rent or own property?

I am also wondering how many of the owners actually live in The villages or simply buy up property here and rent it out?

This is a concern to me because it seems that anything of this nature receives unfair and unnecessary coverage from newspapers outside The Villages, etc Consider the hyperbole concerning STD's, swinger clubs

Bogie Shooter
08-01-2013, 01:46 PM
I don't live in TV yet, the home I own is in Palo Alto. Why?

Nosy.

ilovetv
08-01-2013, 01:51 PM
Family Watchdog is good for mapping and showing the convictions, mug shots etc. of the offenders. The crime stats are also there to see the rate per x-number of population, for various levels and types of crime.

Once the map is up showing the addresses of offenders, the menu bar across the top of the map has a choice for showing the names and addresses in a list that is easier to read data on quickly.

National Sex Offender Registry - Family Watchdog (http://www.familywatchdog.us/default.asp)

Duvalboomer
08-01-2013, 02:00 PM
First there are people willing and waiting to take advantage of others in every community, no place is 100% safe. Second I'm not sure of the Florida laws but in many states if you pee outside and get caught you have to register as a sex offender

BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 02:01 PM
Very good points. As to finding out whether they rent or own, you can find the names on the list at the county website, and you can also find the owner of any property on the county website.
As for renting, I do rent my home out at times and fortunately I have resources that many do not. As a private investigator, I am able to do background checks on anyone that I rent to. I do not rent to sex offenders, nor do I rent to anyone whose background does not make me comfortable having them in my home.

At one of the POA meetings a few year back one of the members complained that a sex offender rented a house next to hers. She complained the sex offender moved and the owner rented to another sex offender.

so I am wondering how many of the sex offenders in The villages rent or own property?

I am also wondering how many of the owners actually live in The villages or simply buy up property here and rent it out?

This is a concern to me because it seems that anything of this nature receives unfair and unnecessary coverage from newspapers outside The Villages, etc Consider the hyperbole concerning STD's, swinger clubs

Bogie Shooter
08-01-2013, 02:06 PM
Very good points. As to finding out whether they rent or own, you can find the names on the list at the county website, and you can also find the owner of any property on the county website.
As for renting, I do rent my home out at times and fortunately I have resources that many do not. As a private investigator, I am able to do background checks on anyone that I rent to. I do not rent to sex offenders, nor do I rent to anyone whose background does not make me comfortable having them in my home.

Do you advise the potential renters of the background check?

senior citizen
08-01-2013, 02:10 PM
Just a heads up for those who think life in the land of the ethical generation is criminal free or that all crime in TV is committed by another generation.
The following is a map showing the locations of the 72 sex offenders within a 5 mile radius of LSL. Quite a few are Villages residents.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/TwistedMom007/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/TwistedMom007/media/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg.html)

I'm glad you posted that. I first found the sex offender list several years ago when we began our research of The Villages. I was a bit shocked at the time that so many of them would want to live with a bunch of older retirees........but I guess sex offenders age , just like the rest of us.

The "news" was kind of downplayed as I recall.......

I also checked out our state......and there are many more in TV than in the towns I checked out.

Why would I care? Well, for one, we would have young grandchildren visiting....ages "baby", two years old, eight years old, eleven years old and now the eldest is nineteen years old........all girls except for the eleven year old boy.

Just being safe, rather than sorry. I would not buy in a neighborhood with registered sex offenders.........that's for sure.

Especially how the postings of that "pole dancing" motel room bedroom for rent, posted on TOTV, was shown........and then suddenly POOF it disappeared. They are out there. Very weird....to say the least.

Maybe we've been sheltered, although our town is changing as well, but again, thanks for posting...........people should be aware.

senior citizen
08-01-2013, 02:13 PM
First there are people willing and waiting to take advantage of others in every community, no place is 100% safe. Second I'm not sure of the Florida laws but in many states if you pee outside and get caught you have to register as a sex offender

Funny........for sure. However, back when I checked out the list, they actually named the sex act they had been busted for.....so probably if we look now, it should name their crime.

I doubt if these are teens caught sexting on their I-phones, but sleezy old guys........and maybe some middle aged guys as well, if my memory holds.

Bogie Shooter
08-01-2013, 02:15 PM
I'm glad you posted that. I first found the sex offender list several years ago when we began our research of The Villages. I was a bit shocked at the time that so many of them would want to live with a bunch of older retirees........but I guess sex offenders age , just like the rest of us.

The "news" was kind of downplayed as I recall.......

I also checked out our state......and there are many more in TV than in the towns I checked out.

Why would I care? Well, for one, we would have young grandchildren visiting....ages "baby", two years old, eight years old, eleven years old and now the eldest is nineteen years old........all girls except for the eleven year old boy.

Just being safe, rather than sorry. I would not buy in a neighborhood with registered sex offenders.........that's for sure.
Especially how the postings of that "pole dancing" motel room bedroom for rent, posted on TOTV, was shown........and then suddenly POOF it disappeared. They are out there. Very weird....to say the least.

Maybe we've been sheltered, although our town is changing as well, but again, thanks for posting...........people should be aware.

And you buy where there are no sex offenders.............then one moves in accross the street. What do you do then?

BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 02:20 PM
Do you advise the potential renters of the background check?
I don't have to. Everything I look up is public record. But it sure is helpful to know if a person who wants to rent my house has a history of suing people, or being sued for property damage.

Bogie Shooter
08-01-2013, 02:46 PM
I don't have to. Everything I look up is public record. But it sure is helpful to know if a person who wants to rent my house has a history of suing people, or being sued for property damage.

Makes sense.

BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 03:35 PM
Funny........for sure. However, back when I checked out the list, they actually named the sex act they had been busted for.....so probably if we look now, it should name their crime.

I doubt if these are teens caught sexting on their I-phones, but sleezy old guys........and maybe some middle aged guys as well, if my memory holds.

The website not only describes the offense, it shows a picture. I looked because I prefer to see the facts in black and white than generalize and make assumptions. And you're absolutely right. Many are geriatric perverts.

Indydealmaker
08-01-2013, 03:36 PM
I believe that you have to register as a sex offender if you have been convicted of domestic violence. This is an abuse of the system IMO and dilutes the effect of the overall program. Generally, a person involved in spousal abuse is not a threat to the general public.

BettyCrocked
08-01-2013, 04:21 PM
I believe that you have to register as a sex offender if you have been convicted of domestic violence. This is an abuse of the system IMO and dilutes the effect of the overall program. Generally, a person involved in spousal abuse is not a threat to the general public.

This is from the DOJ:
Among felony assault defendants
charged with family violence in State
courts, 84% had at least one prior arrest
for either a felony or a misdemeanor
(not necessarily for family violence),
and 73% had been previously convicted
of some type of felony or misdemeanor
(not necessarily family violence).

Domestic violence offenders react with violence, whether it's a family member or someone who cut in front of them. It's not about a guy hating his wife, it's about anger management and control.

DougB
08-01-2013, 04:38 PM
When my youngest was in kindergarten, 28 years ago, she would sometimes kiss the boys in her class. She would be labeled a sexual predator in this day and age !! :shocked:

I think everyone is trying to be serious.But, I could be wrong

perrjojo
08-01-2013, 06:44 PM
I don't live in the City of Birmingham. It's a crime ridden cesspool. In fact, there are only 2 (YES, TWO) in my whole ZIP CODE.
But nice try.

And your point is?
Also, what is the population of YOUR zip code and if your zip is not TV, why so you care how many are here? Just curious

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
08-01-2013, 08:51 PM
72 in a community of 100,000 sounds pretty good. I'd like to see the rates in other cities of that size.

KathieI
08-01-2013, 09:08 PM
I started to receive this list about 3 years ago and I followed through on one address because it was near my girlfriend. What really concerns me is that she knew the people who lived in that particular house and there wasn't a person of that name living there. So what are they doing??? Giving the authorities wrong addresses and its accepted without checking???

Also, the system is too broken to get all exited about this. I was on a jury in Bushnell and the case was statutory rape. The defendant changed his plea about 3/4 into the case with the agreement that he would not be put on a Sex Offender's list if he pled guilty....but he was no longer allowed to be a coach for girls softball teams... BIG DEAL!!!!

BettyCrocked
08-02-2013, 08:27 AM
And your point is?
Also, what is the population of YOUR zip code and if your zip is not TV, why so you care how many are here? Just curious

My point is that I was answering someone's question about where I live. Which, by the way, has nothing to do with sex offenders in TV.
I realize that some are having trouble following the point of this post. There really shouldn't have to be a point, since most people should care how many sex offenders live on their street. Especially given the frenzied panic that some seem to go into every time a crime happens.
There is a certain group of posters here who seem to want to blame every bad thing that happens on somebody's grandkids or kids (while their own kids and grandkids are angels, of course). The point is, there are OLD PEOPLE who commit crimes, too. Many from the "ethical generation".
While many want to think I am bashing TV, and therefore respond with questions about my hometown (how clever!), that is not the case at all. As a matter of fact, there is one offender on that list who does some contract work for me!
Why do I care? I own a home there and spend a lot of time there. Is that ok?

And to those who have sent PM's and emails, thanks for your kind words!

Bogie Shooter
08-02-2013, 08:30 AM
Oh my................

gomoho
08-02-2013, 08:42 AM
Oh my, oh my...

graciegirl
08-02-2013, 09:05 AM
My point is that I was answering someone's question about where I live. Which, by the way, has nothing to do with sex offenders in TV.
I realize that some are having trouble following the point of this post. There really shouldn't have to be a point, since most people should care how many sex offenders live on their street. Especially given the frenzied panic that some seem to go into every time a crime happens.
There is a certain group of posters here who seem to want to blame every bad thing that happens on somebody's grandkids or kids (while their own kids and grandkids are angels, of course). The point is, there are OLD PEOPLE who commit crimes, too. Many from the "ethical generation".
While many want to think I am bashing TV, and therefore respond with questions about my hometown (how clever!), that is not the case at all. As a matter of fact, there is one offender on that list who does some contract work for me!
Why do I care? I own a home there and spend a lot of time there. Is that ok?

And to those who have sent PM's and emails, thanks for your kind words!


I have wondered this so I will ask. What exactly is an "old people"? There are a lot seniors here in TV and some of them are very ethical and others not so much. A good many are old as dirt.

There are people that will absolutely lie to your face about their grandchildren. I had one woman tell me that her grandchildren were the most beautiful and the smartest in the whole world. This was just yesterday she said this. I didn't say anything to this poor misled soul.

Mine are.

Patty55
08-02-2013, 09:08 AM
Again, if you look at the actual addresses not many of them live in TV, but why confuse a strong opinion by interjecting the facts.

You know, it's always something. If it's not poodles piddling on the crabgrass lawn it's people saving chairs or an indulging in an overload of exclamation points!!!

A very astute person often reminds you all that it's sometimes not easy to adapt to life here. We're all on small lots, it's not always easy to respect the privacy of others.

Oh, the drama.

Taltarzac725
08-02-2013, 09:19 AM
Found this in a search. Florida (http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/floridas-sex-offender-registry-43453/)

I have wondered just how up-to-date this registry really is. http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/who-has-to-register-on-the-florida-sex-r-76748/

Patty55
08-02-2013, 09:24 AM
I have wondered this so I will ask. What exactly is an "old people"? There are a lot seniors here in TV and some of them are very ethical and others not so much. A good many are old as dirt.

There are people that will absolutely lie to your face about their grandchildren. I had one woman tell me that her grandchildren were the most beautiful and the smartest in the whole world. This was just yesterday she said this. I didn't say anything to this poor misled soul.

Mine are.

I always try to help those poor misguided souls from the Village of Denial who tell me they're too young to live here by telling them "Realllly, you sure LOOK old enough."

We all have to do our part y'know.

jblum315
08-02-2013, 10:49 AM
Gracie, everyone's grandchildren are the smartest and most beautiful. I know mine are. I bet yours are too.

graciegirl
08-02-2013, 12:36 PM
Gracie, everyone's grandchildren are the smartest and most beautiful. I know mine are. I bet yours are too.

Yep. That was the point I was trying to make. My humor and my exaggerations which I thought were poetic licenses are just getting me in all kinds of trouble this week, Jeanne. Do YOU belong to my generation? I think you are very ethical, by the way.

sigh.

senior citizen
08-02-2013, 12:46 PM
The website not only describes the offense, it shows a picture. I looked because I prefer to see the facts in black and white than generalize and make assumptions. And you're absolutely right. Many are geriatric perverts.


I can see that. Thanks. Nowadays, perhaps more than in the past, it is definitely necessary to know the facts (in black and white as you say).

I'm glad you've brought this subject forward........as when I found it awhile ago, it was kind of negated to an unnecessary discovery.

Hey, had he not been caught, it could be someone the likes of Ariel Castro of Cleveland Ohio moving in to TV with his entourage of enslaved women.....

senior citizen
08-02-2013, 12:58 PM
Just a heads up for those who think life in the land of the ethical generation is criminal free or that all crime in TV is committed by another generation.
The following is a map showing the locations of the 72 sex offenders within a 5 mile radius of LSL. Quite a few are Villages residents.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/TwistedMom007/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/TwistedMom007/media/sexoffenders_zps109fc636.jpg.html)

I just showed this map to my husband. He also thinks it is quite a lot.

((We notice three in our town/vicinity in Vermont. Non violent offenses.))

I remember being very very very surprised the first time I researched the same subject, a few years ago......with regard to The Villages. Somehow, it just didn't enter my mind that so many would be living near or in TV.
And remember, it doesn't matter if they live there, as they can frequent the bars and the squares in the evening..........anyone can.

As hubby says, All perverts are going to age. Where will the end up?
In a retirement community. In Florida. No doubt they are also in other parts of Florida as well........for the same reason everyone else comes, to escape the snow and the cold...........

Again, I definitely would check out the street and the village to make sure we didn't expose our own visiting grandchildren to this type of person....

Has anyone actually made a graph of the streets , or a list, so we can refer to our big map???? Your research is appreciated.

Golfingnut
08-02-2013, 01:03 PM
One in 10,000 is not a lot. The map shows lady lake and wildwood, but less than a dozen in all of the villages.

Bogie Shooter
08-02-2013, 01:09 PM
Graphs, pie charts, lists, power point slides................I sense paranoia is setting in.

Golfingnut
08-02-2013, 01:10 PM
Sex Offender Statistics | Statistic Brain (http://www.statisticbrain.com/sex-offender-statistics/)

Read the link. The Villages is very low per capita. Geeezzzzzz.

senior citizen
08-02-2013, 01:20 PM
Registered sex offenders in The Villages, Florida - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this city (http://www.city-data.com/so/so-The-Villages-Florida.html)

Registered Sex Offenders in The Villages, Florida.

I just checked as of August 2013. Seems like quite enough of them.
It would be a concern to those with visiting grandchildren.
Not everyone is a swinging single who wishes to relocate to TV.....
I just read all of their backgrounds.
You can also find listings for those in the bordering towns on the perimeter of TV.

What is good about this link......click on the link which brings you to their picture and personal data.
Mr. McNutt doesn't look that dangerous , does he? But what about someone dating him from one of the bars?

senior citizen
08-02-2013, 01:47 PM
That's it for today. It's all we can take. Just read of one whose crime was with a child under age 10. A lot of them are pedophiles. Living in The Villages. WE clicked on each link and amidst the elderly ones were plenty of younger ones in their early 40's.

Glad the original poster brought up this topic again.....as better safe than sorry.

The younger ones must be living with their retired parents.
Not a normal situation at all.

Bogie Shooter
08-02-2013, 01:51 PM
Hooray!!!!

Patty55
08-02-2013, 01:58 PM
Okie Dokie, we just went from 72 to 15 (by my count). What I noticed is that more than a few offended in another state before they lived here, some were using the computer to lure and one or two were into kiddie porn.

If you want to protect your granchildren educate them and have some spatial awareness. Don't leave them unattended on the computer, don't give them alone time with anyone.

If you all feel that threatened maybe you should stay where you feel safe.

gomoho
08-02-2013, 02:19 PM
was thinking the same things Patty - thanks for putting it into words

Bill Tasker
08-02-2013, 02:44 PM
Perhaps this should be called Talk Smack of The Villages...:laugh:

graciegirl
08-02-2013, 02:46 PM
Perhaps this should be called Talk Smack of The Villages...:laugh:


What is a talk smack?

graciegirl
08-02-2013, 03:02 PM
Sex Offender Statistics | Statistic Brain (http://www.statisticbrain.com/sex-offender-statistics/)

Read the link. The Villages is very low per capita. Geeezzzzzz.

I wonder why Vermont is so high? It really doesn't have a high population.

perrjojo
08-02-2013, 03:14 PM
Ok, this is somewhat tongue in cheek...but here goes. I would think TV is a great place for sex offenders..lots of old people, not as much temptation. Very few young children. Ok, so Grandchildren do come to visit but, honestly, are they EVER out of your sight when here. I doubt it. I think we need to be more concerned with all of the homeless school children living in our Tri county area than sex offenders.

graciegirl
08-02-2013, 03:20 PM
Ok, this is somewhat tongue in cheek...but here goes. I would think TV is a great place for sex offenders..lots of old people, not as much temptation. Very few young children. Ok, so Grandchildren do come to visit but, honestly, are the EVER out of your sight when here. I doubt it. I think we need to be more concerned with all of the homeless school children living in our Tri county area than sex offenders.

I am, perrjojo.:agree:

Patty55
08-02-2013, 03:39 PM
I know this is going to be very hard for you all to wrap your head around (no sarcasm intended), but sometimes the grandparents are the offenders. Generally an offender is someone the child trusts... parent, step-parent, cousins, grandparents and of course the mothers boyfriend. Then you throw in people who want to be around children, teachers, scout leaders and what have you. The odds that your grandchild will be picked off the street in TV are slim, the odds are that if there were to be a problem it would be within your extended family or circle of close friends.

NOW, can we please return to our usual topic....

A poodle piddles on my petunias.... What should I do?

Bogie Shooter
08-02-2013, 04:12 PM
I know this is going to be very hard for you all to wrap your head around (no sarcasm intended), but sometimes the grandparents are the offenders. Generally an offender is someone the child trusts... parent, step-parent, cousins, grandparents and of course the mothers boyfriend. Then you throw in people who want to be around children, teachers, scout leaders and what have you. The odds that your grandchild will be picked off the street in TV are slim, the odds are that if there were to be a problem it would be within your extended family or circle of close friends.

NOW, can we please return to our usual topic....

A poodle piddles on my petunias.... What should I do?

Did the poodle show up at your petunias because of getting your address in an online chatroom.........that happened to be a sting operation?
Arrest him and throw the book at him........................

Harry Gilbert
08-02-2013, 05:12 PM
A public urination conviction can land you a sex offender label. Believe it or not

gomoho
08-02-2013, 05:16 PM
Sorry Patty, but my poodle only piddles on pansies in pursuit of ****ing off some people that possibly believe poodles piddling on pansies is a problem cause perfect pansies are a priority. Saw that fast 3 times.

graciegirl
08-02-2013, 05:28 PM
Sorry Patty, but my poodle only piddles on pansies in pursuit of ****ing off some people that possibly believe poodles piddling on pansies is a problem cause perfect pansies are a priority. Saw that fast 3 times.

My perfect pen pals poodle peter ****ed on pansies prior to picking a pan to prepare polish pizza for pals.

Trish Crocker
08-02-2013, 06:08 PM
First of all, the whole sexual predators list is ridiculous, there needs to be a clear definition of people put on this list. As a previous poster stated, teenagers can get on this list by having consensual relations with a girlfriend a year or two younger (I have seen it happen)..also, if someone is caught urinating in an alley or other place outdoors, they can be convicted and put on the list. Some of the residents in this area grew up when college kids thought it was funny to 'streak'...this is also a crime punishable by having to register as an offender. I despise pedophiles and others that are actually guilty of sexual violations but I'm not going to label someone in my neighborhood until I know the actual story. If I'm made aware that someone is on the registry, you better believe I will keep a close eye on my grandchildren and be careful when around the individual, but I will save my judgment until I know more information. Besides that, think of statistics..the percentage of offenders actually getting caught and convicted is very small....how many of your neighbors have just managed to get away with it? Scary thought, isn't it?

perrjojo
08-02-2013, 06:22 PM
I know this is going to be very hard for you all to wrap your head around (no sarcasm intended), but sometimes the grandparents are the offenders. Generally an offender is someone the child trusts... parent, step-parent, cousins, grandparents and of course the mothers boyfriend. Then you throw in people who want to be around children, teachers, scout leaders and what have you. The odds that your grandchild will be picked off the street in TV are slim, the odds are that if there were to be a problem it would be within your extended family or circle of close friends.

NOW, can we please return to our usual topic....

A poodle piddles on my petunias.... What should I do?

Amen! My husband was on a sexual offender jury where the Grandfather had been abusing his nieces and Grandchildren for years.