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rn1tv
08-15-2013, 01:47 PM
:bowdown:I am curious....I was recently "fired" by one of my doctors...has this happened to anyone else? :bowdown:

Bonny
08-15-2013, 01:53 PM
Wow ! No my Drs. like me. I have known a couple of people that were told by their Dr. that maybe they should find another cause they were really bad gripers.

SpicyCajunPugs
08-15-2013, 01:57 PM
:bowdown:I am curious....I was recently "fired" by one of my doctors...has this happened to anyone else? :bowdown:

Did he give you the reason why he didn't want you to be a patient anymore?

Barefoot
08-15-2013, 01:59 PM
:bowdown:I am curious....I was recently "fired" by one of my doctors...has this happened to anyone else? :bowdown:

Surely the Doctor offered an explanation? Sounds very strange. I would think that if a patient was extremely uncooperative and confrontational, the doctor might have the right to end the relationship. I'm sure in your case, this didn't happen. So could it just be a workload issue, that the doctor agreed to take on new patients and exceeded her capability?

angiefox10
08-15-2013, 02:02 PM
Yes! Years ago I was fired by my doctor.... I was hurt and angry and then woke up! I should have fired him a long time ago!!!! I found another doctor who wanted to work with me and my health. That doctor found what was causing my problem and I have been healthy ever since!

You are lucky your doctor.... who clearly couldn't figure out what was wrong with you... . or doesn't want someone who questions him as a patient!

My problem was my thyroid.... It causes so many problems in our system that when women try to explain it.... the doctors call it "whiny women's disease". The same with fibromyalgia.

Count your lucky stars and find the right doctor for you! Your doctor is out there! Now go find her!

jannd228
08-15-2013, 02:36 PM
I was here in MA, go find another doctor, make sure you request your medical records FIRST, then make sure the next physician does NOT have access to ANY physician clinical notes. MAKE HIM SIGN OFF BEFORE HE SEES YOU, there are forms on the net for it.

I lived in pain for 22 years due to an accident, was told to give up my six figure income, which stupid me did due to what I now consider to be a fake diagnosis. No one believed me until my lungs collapsed while teaching school THEN they discovered a spinal column injury. By the time they figured it out, I had what they called a systemic infection, all internal organs were affected; all were failing.

It is a "liability" issue,they all CYOA each other. Thank your lucky stars he fired you. Go to the medical board and file a complaint. I was also mistreated by a surgeon while removing a growth from my head. He took a personal phone call on his cell phone from his car mechanic for 15 minutes leaving my head exposed to who knows what. I left day surgery without appropriate bandaging and blood dripping down the side of my face. Walked through the lobby of the hospital that way, I discovered it in the taxi taking me home.

Calmly I made a prescripted video of it on my netbook posted it to YouTube and sent the links to the appropriate authorities including his employers.

They send the clinical notes to each other because of malpractice liability insurance, that is why there is so much incorrect diagnoses out there.

Buyer beware I say

billethkid
08-15-2013, 02:37 PM
can't offer condolences or congratulations or reach a conclusion without knowing why.

btk

rn1tv
08-15-2013, 03:57 PM
The cause... cardiologist but me on a medication(amiodarone) that, as a RN, was concerned about because of other health conditions I have. Checked with my primary and pulmonologist who asked that I contact the cardiologist to see if I try only digoxin to see if it resolved the problem. I called the office on Friday and left message for a call back. Also, Monday no call back so recontacted the office on Tuesday. They confirmed they had forwarded the original message and would resubmit. Both times, I told them I had not started the med due to what I knew about it and my other docs recommendation. They assured me I would be contacted. Waited Wednesday and Thursday until 4pm and called and spoke to the office manager who told me I would get a call back soon. The doc's nurse finally contacted me (who knew me as we were both employees at the hospital) and told me she had been "too busy" to return my call. I told her that that was not an acceptable reason and maybe I needed to find another cardiologist who cares about their patients. Her response "you gotta do what you gotta do." Being off heart meds for a week, I found those responses totally unacceptable as an RN, BSN. I recontacted the office manager the next day (you cannot speak to the doc) and told her about my experience with the nurse. Obviously, she didn't take my complaint well as I received a letter a few days later indicating I needed to find another cardiologist. I did and am in much better hands. The new doc reviewed my records, found I had an EF of less than 35% and ask what had been done by the original cardiologist. When I said nothing, I immediately had a cardiac cath ordered. As a nurse, I had a tremendous amount of faith in the original group of docs and had recommended to others...not any more...

Villages PL
08-15-2013, 04:13 PM
I told her that that was not an acceptable reason and maybe I needed to find another cardiologist who cares about their patients. Her response "you gotta do what you gotta do."

Based on the above statement, it seems like you fired your cardiologist.

TrudyM
08-15-2013, 04:15 PM
Could you tell us who the original cardiac group was? As your new doc is so much better could you tell us who this was also. Those of us who are only there part time and have heart condtions want to be sure we go to the right person.

janieb
08-15-2013, 04:25 PM
I have a friend in Michigan who has been going through cancer treatments for the last year and the doctor has told her he needs to try this or that, etc. I think she is getting better but unfortunately her oncologist is the one who has just been arrested for bilking the medicare system.

"Michigan doctor accused of misdiagnosing cancer patients to scam Medicare out of millions is set $9m bond"

Applepie
08-15-2013, 05:29 PM
I was fired by my doctor. When I first came to TV I need a primary care phycican. Dr. Rivers was recommended. I saw him, everything was fine, and he told me to return in a year. Which would be in October. The following October I was up north taking care of my dying sister as she had no one else. I did not return to TV until mid December. I got busy with Christmas and forgot about Dr Rivers. I called early in January to make an
appointment and was told I could no longer be a patient of Dr. Rivers and that my records had been deleted from their system. The reason: I failed to follow Dr. Rivers instructions by not returning in October. I tried to explain my issues with my sister but was told it was too late. Find another doctor. Which I did. I suppose it was partly my fault but he could have been more understanding.

rn1tv
08-15-2013, 07:22 PM
Applepie, I disagree; I do not think you were at fault, you put priorities first. I am better off as a result of my doc firing me and it sounds as though you are too. I often wonder if the docs actually know about these things or are the decisions being made by the staff without the doc's knowledge.

rn1tv
08-15-2013, 07:36 PM
Wow ! No my Drs. like me. I have known a couple of people that were told by their Dr. that maybe they should find another cause they were really bad gripers.

Bonny, my fellow parrot head, believe me, as an RN,BSN at the hospital, I have the respect of most every one of the drs. that practice there; however, we all know that all of the docs in the area are not top notch as I thought mine was. It's not a question of liking me, I am very easy to get along with except when I do not get the health care I expect. It's a question of their competence. I am not a griper, I only expect excellent health care as all of us should. Maybe if you had made several calls to your doc over 7 days regarding a very serious new medication issue with no response, you would better understand.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
08-15-2013, 07:48 PM
The cause... cardiologist but me on a medication(amiodarone) that, as a RN, was concerned about because of other health conditions I have. Checked with my primary and pulmonologist who asked that I contact the cardiologist to see if I try only digoxin to see if it resolved the problem. I called the office on Friday and left message for a call back. Also, Monday no call back so recontacted the office on Tuesday. They confirmed they had forwarded the original message and would resubmit. Both times, I told them I had not started the med due to what I knew about it and my other docs recommendation. They assured me I would be contacted. Waited Wednesday and Thursday until 4pm and called and spoke to the office manager who told me I would get a call back soon. The doc's nurse finally contacted me (who knew me as we were both employees at the hospital) and told me she had been "too busy" to return my call. I told her that that was not an acceptable reason and maybe I needed to find another cardiologist who cares about their patients. Her response "you gotta do what you gotta do." Being off heart meds for a week, I found those responses totally unacceptable as an RN, BSN. I recontacted the office manager the next day (you cannot speak to the doc) and told her about my experience with the nurse. Obviously, she didn't take my complaint well as I received a letter a few days later indicating I needed to find another cardiologist. I did and am in much better hands. The new doc reviewed my records, found I had an EF of less than 35% and ask what had been done by the original cardiologist. When I said nothing, I immediately had a cardiac cath ordered. As a nurse, I had a tremendous amount of faith in the original group of docs and had recommended to others...not any more...

Sounds like he did you a favor.

asianthree
08-15-2013, 08:14 PM
you did say you need to find another DR....but still banking that he/she Dr may have been given a letter that you wanted to leave and just signed it..

Bonny
08-15-2013, 08:25 PM
Bonny, my fellow parrot head, believe me, as an RN,BSN at the hospital, I have the respect of most every one of the drs. that practice there; however, we all know that all of the docs in the area are not top notch as I thought mine was. It's not a question of liking me, I am very easy to get along with except when I do not get the health care I expect. It's a question of their competence. I am not a griper, I only expect excellent health care as all of us should. Maybe if you had made several calls to your doc over 7 days regarding a very serious new medication issue with no response, you would better understand.

I have been very lucky ! I had 3 major surgeries in 7 months for 3 different things, 3 different Drs. and 3 different hospitals. The Villages, Leesburg & Florida. Everyone of my Drs. were top notch, thank God, and every hospital experience was wonderful !!!
I'm sure you're a great person, but as we know, not everyone is our cup of tea, nor are we theirs. In the end, hopefully you are happy with you have. Maybe it was one of those blessings in disguise ! :)

Tweety Bird
08-15-2013, 08:28 PM
Maybe you won't listen to what your doctor says. Maybe he feels a lawsuit coming on. Maybe your personalities simply do not mesh. Maybe you're confrontational. Maybe he feels he cannot help you. Do you swear at him ? What do you think it is?:ho: You must have some kind of clue!

rn1tv
08-15-2013, 08:57 PM
Tweety Bird, He is a she ;o). I was not confrontational and have never sworn at a doc as I have much respect for all in the medical field. I think that the decision to "fire" me was made by the office manager without the dr's knowledge but they would not have the doc contact me direct...only her incompetent nurse who couldn't take 5 minutes in a period of 7 days to return my call when I and 2 of my other docs had a serious concern about a medication she had prescribed for me. I must add that I had a CT scan that showed a "significant thrombus (blood clot) in my aorta while I was recently in the hospital and she became my cardiologist. She told me I could be discharged with no mention of the finding. I asked what was her plan regarding this issue and she admitted that she had not picked up on it in the report...blamed it on the radiologist! She also said she would discharge me on blood thinners to treat it but left the hospital (and not to be back for 3 days) without prescribing any medication. Had to call the doc on call for her who had no clue about my medical situation. Had to stay in the hospital longer as a result. And people ask why insurance costs are so high...she was more concerned about her weekend. Guess I should have started looking for a new doc at that point.

manaboutown
08-15-2013, 09:34 PM
Remember, half of the physicians out there graduated in the bottom half of their class. (Shudder) Also, office staff can be terrible, and some good physicians hire and retain poor and incompetent staff.

On the other hand noncompliant patients are a problem for physicians who want to "lose" them ASAP.

CFrance
08-15-2013, 09:54 PM
Maybe you won't listen to what your doctor says. Maybe he feels a lawsuit coming on. Maybe your personalities simply do not mesh. Maybe you're confrontational. Maybe he feels he cannot help you. Do you swear at him ? What do you think it is?:ho: You must have some kind of clue!

I'm stunned.

gustavo
08-15-2013, 11:10 PM
I was fired by my doctor. When I first came to TV I need a primary care phycican. Dr. Rivers was recommended. I saw him, everything was fine, and he told me to return in a year. Which would be in October. The following October I was up north taking care of my dying sister as she had no one else. I did not return to TV until mid December. I got busy with Christmas and forgot about Dr Rivers. I called early in January to make an
appointment and was told I could no longer be a patient of Dr. Rivers and that my records had been deleted from their system. The reason: I failed to follow Dr. Rivers instructions by not returning in October. I tried to explain my issues with my sister but was told it was too late. Find another doctor. Which I did. I suppose it was partly my fault but he could have been more understanding.

Same thing happened to me. But Rivers sent me a certified letter saying he could provide 3 months of "emergency" care then I was canned. I never looked back but the sad thing (for me) was my wife still goes to him. No solidarity.:cryin2:

KittyKat
08-15-2013, 11:43 PM
rn1tv, I must say that I am ashamed of the people who are attacking you when clearly you had a legitimate complaint about your doctor. With an ef so low I don't know how you're still able to work. I also can't believe they discharged you with an aortal thrombus! I'm glad that you now have 3 good doctors working with you to get your health on a better track.

I think doctors' egos get threatened when they have a medical professional for a patient. If we don't look out for ourselves who will? Surely not most of them.

Good luck!

CFrance
08-16-2013, 12:03 AM
Same thing happened to me. But Rivers sent me a certified letter saying he could provide 3 months of "emergency" care then I was canned. I never looked back but the sad thing (for me) was my wife still goes to him. No solidarity.:cryin2:

It would seem, Gustavo--from the certified letter you got stating that you would have three months of emergency care--that there may have been some complaints about his professionalism in dropping patients, enough that someone (a lawyer?) advised him to send this letter to dropped patients to, you know, CHA.

gustavo
08-16-2013, 07:57 AM
It would seem, Gustavo--from the certified letter you got stating that you would have three months of emergency care--that there may have been some complaints about his professionalism in dropping patients, enough that someone (a lawyer?) advised him to send this letter to dropped patients to, you know, CHA.

Oh, I agree, probably recommended in his program to enhance revenues and how to avoid trouble when you trim the chaff. My sin was I didn't generate enough revenue for him.

Tweety Bird
08-16-2013, 10:53 AM
Tweety Bird, He is a she ;o). I was not confrontational and have never sworn at a doc as I have much respect for all in the medical field. I think that the decision to "fire" me was made by the office manager without the dr's knowledge but they would not have the doc contact me direct...only her incompetent nurse who couldn't take 5 minutes in a period of 7 days to return my call when I and 2 of my other docs had a serious concern about a medication she had prescribed for me. I must add that I had a CT scan that showed a "significant thrombus (blood clot) in my aorta while I was recently in the hospital and she became my cardiologist. She told me I could be discharged with no mention of the finding. I asked what was her plan regarding this issue and she admitted that she had not picked up on it in the report...blamed it on the radiologist! She also said she would discharge me on blood thinners to treat it but left the hospital (and not to be back for 3 days) without prescribing any medication. Had to call the doc on call for her who had no clue about my medical situation. Had to stay in the hospital longer as a result. And people ask why insurance costs are so high...she was more concerned about her weekend. Guess I should have started looking for a new doc at that point.

WOW! I have nothing to say about "she". Sounds like a cover up for something. Who knows. Just start shopping around. Terrible situation.

rn1tv
08-16-2013, 11:30 AM
rn1tv, I must say that I am ashamed of the people who are attacking you when clearly you had a legitimate complaint about your doctor. With an ef so low I don't know how you're still able to work. I also can't believe they discharged you with an aortal thrombus! I'm glad that you now have 3 good doctors working with you to get your health on a better track.

I think doctors' egos get threatened when they have a medical professional for a patient. If we don't look out for ourselves who will? Surely not most of them.

Good luck!

Thanks for your support! I thank God I have a medical background, got my hands on the CT report, and addressed it; otherwise, I could be dead. I wonder how many patients may have similar situations and are totally unaware of an unidentified problem. It's frightening! All my friends ask for copies of their reports and ask me to review (due to terminology) to see if they have reason to be concerned.

blueash
08-16-2013, 01:01 PM
I think the simple answer to the question is yes, your doctor can "fire" you, or more properly dismiss you. The doctor is obligated to provide you with ongoing emergency care to give you time to find another provider. The doctor is not obligated to do a routine visit or provide non-urgent care. Providers dismiss patients for many reasons, failure to pay bills, no shows for appointments, non-compliance, and commonly because the physician feels the doctor patient relationship is damaged. This damage may obviously occur due to the actions of either or both sides but once it is damaged the necessary trust is gone and it is best for the patient to seek care elsewhere. I would like to comment on a statement above that your new doctor should not see the clinical notes from your old doctor. I would vigorously disagree with that plan. Any previous notes may be important in ongoing care.

Mallory Voice
08-16-2013, 01:25 PM
:bowdown:I am curious....I was recently "fired" by one of my doctors...has this happened to anyone else? :bowdown:

Yes, it happened when I was in my 30's. I physically proved my doctor wrong about a diagnosis provided me that meant being on a drug for the rest of my life. I did an Edgar Cayce remedy, was totally healed and verified by the same doctor, then the office sent me a dear john letter telling me to go to another doctor. Unbelievable!! Feel it was a blessing - move on to the many great doctors here at TV, especially in the new "Villages Health Care Center System" which provides 24/7 urgent care when needed.
Mallory Voice

CycleChic
08-16-2013, 02:31 PM
Years ago my children went to a pediatrician that we all absolutely loved, but his office staff left a lot to be desired. I wrote a lengthy letter to the doctor explaining an unpleasant situation caused by his staff. I received a letter shortly thereafter "letting us go" and "offering to send our records to whomever we choose". I was totally dumbfounded. A few months later I ran into the doctor, he had been told we moved. We had a great conversation that day and ended up returning to him, needless to say, with some staff changes. I would verify who sent the letter.

rn1tv
08-16-2013, 03:24 PM
Same thing happened to me. But Rivers sent me a certified letter saying he could provide 3 months of "emergency" care then I was canned. I never looked back but the sad thing (for me) was my wife still goes to him. No solidarity.:cryin2:

I got 2 letters: one through regular mail and one certified. We were not home when they attempted to deliver the certified one and left a card in our mailbox for redelivery or pick-up. I ignored the notice...how many times do you need to tell me:loco:? I'm convinced that things like this happen for a reason....a very good reason! Hope you found a great primary doc!

twinklesweep
08-16-2013, 03:54 PM
Bonny, my fellow parrot head, believe me, as an RN,BSN at the hospital, I have the respect of most every one of the drs. that practice there; however, we all know that all of the docs in the area are not top notch as I thought mine was. It's not a question of liking me, I am very easy to get along with except when I do not get the health care I expect. It's a question of their competence. I am not a griper, I only expect excellent health care as all of us should. Maybe if you had made several calls to your doc over 7 days regarding a very serious new medication issue with no response, you would better understand.

This is a pretty strong statement [emphasis mine above], especially with the use of the word all. Might I ask how you've come to this conclusion?

I had ONE physician in the area (who has an excellent reputation, I might add...) who made a blatant mistake, which I would not have realized if it had not been pointed out to me by another physician in the area. So much for doctors who practice "CYA" not only for themselves but for each other, which I'm not implying doesn't happen, but again it's not all. I deal with some pretty serious (and potentially serious) conditions and have had the good fortune to have found some truly excellent doctors!

rn1tv
08-17-2013, 09:22 AM
twinklesweep, I apologize as I did not mean to imply that all of the physicians in the area are not top notch. I agree that the majority of them are excellent, but not all of them. I believe in one of my earlier posts, I indicated that I now have an excellent doctor who has taken the problems that the 1st doctor over looked very seriously and I am getting the treatment I need. I will be careful with future posts as I don't want them to be misinterpreted. I appreciate your bringing this to my attention.

Halibut
08-17-2013, 11:08 AM
Whoa. I had no idea doctors did this! As a person who is occasionally "noncompliant" (or, as I prefer to think of it, "ultimately making my own decisions about my own health"), I'm wondering when I'll be getting a certified letter. Ha!

As for rescheduling appointments, that's appallingly ridiculous, especially considering that many people are not here all year, or visit/travel extensively out of state.

I definitely agree that office staff can be a huge detriment, or a huge help. I left a primary doc I liked a lot because of his office staff.

On the other hand, we've never notified any health care providers when we've moved or chosen another practitioner, so they never knew they were fired.

CFrance
08-17-2013, 06:01 PM
Whoa. I had no idea doctors did this! As a person who is occasionally "noncompliant" (or, as I prefer to think of it, "ultimately making my own decisions about my own health"), I'm wondering when I'll be getting a certified letter. Ha!

As for rescheduling appointments, that's appallingly ridiculous, especially considering that many people are not here all year, or visit/travel extensively out of state.

I definitely agree that office staff can be a huge detriment, or a huge help. I left a primary doc I liked a lot because of his office staff.

On the other hand, we've never notified any health care providers when we've moved or chosen another practitioner, so they never knew they were fired.

I have done this as well. Some offices in small towns up north still treat doctors as gods and patients as cattle. Their attitude is appalling. They fail to realize that we are the employers; they are the employees.

graciegirl
08-17-2013, 06:15 PM
I have done this as well. Some offices in small towns up north still treat doctors as gods and patients as cattle. Their attitude is appalling. They fail to realize that we are the employers; they are the employees.

I too am very disappointed by the behavior of the doctors office staff that we are seeing...and very disappointed with the doctor too. We have interviewed one doctor recommended on here and then found out before we switched that he was in jail for awhile for failure to pay support.

I am used to doctors being more traditional in their life styles. Never had one in jail for anything. Very picky about our doctors.

PLEASE, if you have a doctor that you trust and has a good educational background share who he is with us by PM. The new Villages health care won't take our previously always accepted insurance. :sigh:

gatherer47
08-17-2013, 06:35 PM
My three doctors-Dr Howard,Dr Fine,and Dr Howard graduated with the highest temperatures in their class-By the way,I was "fired" by my homeowners insurance company for what they called "overexposure"

Villages PL
08-18-2013, 03:54 PM
Basically, there are two kinds of cardiologists: "GOOD" and "BAD". The bad ones are the ones who have already made noticeable mistakes with your medical care or the care of someone your know. The good ones are the ones whos mistakes you are not yet aware of as they have yet to make a noticeable mistake with your care or the care of someone you know.

Ask your cardiologist if he/she ever gives patients a choice between bypass surgery and reversing heart disease through natural means (i.e., better lifestyle choices).

Villages PL
08-20-2013, 10:45 AM
I told this story a long time ago but I think it's worth repeating:

My neighbor (about 10 years ago) had coronary artery disease and already had one stent. Then her doctor told her she needed another one. I gave her a ride to the hospital in Leesburg where she was to get the procedure. That morning the doctor tried but failed to get the stent to the location where he thought it was needed. That's because there was a sharp turn in her artery and the stent wouldn't go around the corner. (Imagine you're at a stop sign and about to make a sharp right turn. That's the way it was.

So, when she woke up from the failed procedure, the doctor told her he would like to try again in the afternoon. With no time to think it over she just agreed to it, figuring that he probably knew best. Well, he tried again and failed again. This is the part that's so unbelievable: After he told her that the second attempt failed, he said, "don't worry, you don't need it."

I picked her up from the hospital the following morning and she was feeling sick. What happened to the concept of "do no harm"? To make matters worse, she eventually received a bill for a little over 30,000 dollars. And medicare said they would only pay for one procedure so she was on the hook for $15,000 dollars.

Sorry, I don't remember the doctor's name. This was almost 10 years ago and I just never bothered to remember his name.

jblum315
08-20-2013, 11:14 AM
Everyone should be aware that they simply won't pay for 2 identical procedures. I ran into this years ago when my daughter had to have surgery on her feet. It had to be carefully explained to the insurance idiots that a procedure on the right foot is not identical to a procedure on the left foot. Took months to straighten it out.

rn1tv
08-20-2013, 12:58 PM
VillagesPL, I hope your friend did not pay the outstanding balance! Unfortunately, I think situations like your friends happen more often than we would like to believe. No wonder medicare is going broke! I do hope she reported this to the FL Board of Medicine.

dog friendly
09-02-2013, 02:04 PM
I had a doctor that I fired and then he was fired, long story.....and please do not even ask who he is because it was some time ago.....

GeoGeo
09-03-2013, 10:18 AM
I have heard of doctors doing this to patients who disagree with what the doctor had to say. The patients were not confrontational. They just disagreed with the medication that the doctor had prescribed. I'm not sure if they thought the doctor should use a different medication or if they didn't agree with the diagnosis. All I know it involved not wanting to take the particular medication the doctor had prescribed. Another time I heard of it, the patient didn't know why they were "fired" as you called it. But then shortly after that the doctor had left that practice and started a practice of his own. So perhaps if the doctor is leaving a practice, they are required to do that.

graciegirl
09-03-2013, 10:41 AM
I have heard of doctors doing this to patients who disagree with what the doctor had to say. The patients were not confrontational. They just disagreed with the medication that the doctor had prescribed. I'm not sure if they thought the doctor should use a different medication or if they didn't agree with the diagnosis. All I know it involved not wanting to take the particular medication the doctor had prescribed. Another time I heard of it, the patient didn't know why they were "fired" as you called it. But then shortly after that the doctor had left that practice and started a practice of his own. So perhaps if the doctor is leaving a practice, they are required to do that.


I think that some doctors here are very high handed.

A doctor who we are seeing said that I had turned down a test he wanted to do on me and I "wasn't going to get away with it". He had done this test on Helene but not me and hadn't asked to do it. I had assuredly only turned down one test for fecal blood as I had recently had a clear colonoscopy. Turns out it was some test about circulation to your extremities performed in the doctors office and I am a bit unclear what the use of it is. Neither Helene nor I have ever had a problem with circulation to our extremities. Four blood pressure cuffs are placed on your ankles and wrists simultaneously and you are asked to stand up, sit down and lie down. Helene has had a variety of tests on her circulatory system performed by one of the fine heart hospitals in this country but never ran into this test. Perhaps I am too skeptical. I went along with it and then was called to come in that a technician was going to be in the office on Wednesday to do an ultra sound on my leg. I haven't had any problem with my leg. ???? I am losing faith here. I refused. I may be fired soon.

You just have to wonder.

CFrance
09-03-2013, 10:55 AM
I think that some doctors here are very high handed.

A doctor who we are seeing said that I had turned down a test he wanted to do on me and I "wasn't going to get away with it". He had done this test on Helene but not me and hadn't asked to do it. I had assuredly only turned down one test for fecal blood as I had recently had a clear colonoscopy. Turns out it was some test about circulation to your extremities performed in the doctors office and I am a bit unclear what the use of it is. Neither Helene nor I have ever had a problem with circulation to our extremities. Four blood pressure cuffs are placed on your ankles and wrists simultaneously and you are asked to stand up, sit down and lie down. Helene has had a variety of tests on her circulatory system performed by one of the fine heart hospitals in this country but never ran into this test. Perhaps I am too skeptical. I went along with it and then was called to come in that a technician was going to be in the office on Wednesday to do an ultra sound on my leg. I haven't had any problem with my leg. ???? I am losing faith here. I refused. I may be fired soon.

You just have to wonder.

That would do it for me. He would be my former doctor.

There's a couple of issues here, one of which I ran into in Muskegon, MI, causing me to switch all my health care over to U of M in Ann Arbor.

One is, don't talk to seniors as if they were children. Don't talk down to ANY patient.

The other is, we are the customers. Where's the customer service?

In Muskegon, the office staff's attitude was "The doctors are gods and you will follow the rules with no complaints, including sitting in the waiting room an hour+ past your appointment time. We may be rude and discourteous because you are lucky to have these doctors." Bye-bye to them!

graciegirl
09-03-2013, 11:02 AM
That would do it for me. He would be my former doctor.

There's a couple of issues here, one of which I ran into in Muskegon, MI, causing me to switch all my health care over to U of M in Ann Arbor.

One is, don't talk to seniors as if they were children. Don't talk down to ANY patient.

The other is, we are the customers. Where's the customer service?

In Muskegon, the office staff's attitude was "The doctors are gods and you will follow the rules with no complaints, including sitting in the waiting room an hour+ past your appointment time. We may be rude and discourteous because you are lucky to have these doctors." Bye-bye to them!


We are interviewing new folks now...which reminds me. I want to talk to Dr. Agbar.

C....we have to get a group together next month. I miss you.

Parker
09-03-2013, 11:25 AM
Hold your fire on the doctor, until you know the reason. Not all patients are easy to work with, and the OP should assess their own possible instigation in the matter first. Some patients stress out the entire office, and/or upset other patients. Need more info.

looneycat
09-05-2013, 08:28 AM
This is a pretty strong statement [emphasis mine above], especially with the use of the word all. Might I ask how you've come to this conclusion?

I had ONE physician in the area (who has an excellent reputation, I might add...) who made a blatant mistake, which I would not have realized if it had not been pointed out to me by another physician in the area. So much for doctors who practice "CYA" not only for themselves but for each other, which I'm not implying doesn't happen, but again it's not all. I deal with some pretty serious (and potentially serious) conditions and have had the good fortune to have found some truly excellent doctors!

1 physician who is not top notch would satisfy the statements you highlighted...
:confused:

looneycat
09-05-2013, 08:34 AM
Everyone should be aware that they simply won't pay for 2 identical procedures. I ran into this years ago when my daughter had to have surgery on her feet. It had to be carefully explained to the insurance idiots that a procedure on the right foot is not identical to a procedure on the left foot. Took months to straighten it out.

It would be comical if it weren't so stressful, and so unnecessary!