View Full Version : The Villages Moving Into Fruitland Park
pklein9747
08-15-2013, 07:47 PM
Very interesting on-line newspaper article about Morse developing more land East on 466A. Fruitland Park ponders potential future impact of The Villages - ************** (http://www.**************.com/villages-wants-to-move-ridiculously-fast-on-466a-property-purchase/#comments)
Anyone know if any such meeting was really held in Fruitland Park?
Indydealmaker
08-15-2013, 08:17 PM
Very interesting on-line newspaper article about Morse developing more land East on 466A. Fruitland Park ponders potential future impact of The Villages - ************** (http://www.**************.com/villages-wants-to-move-ridiculously-fast-on-466a-property-purchase/#comments)
Anyone know if any such meeting was really held in Fruitland Park?
If the meeting was not really held, and if the quotes from the Fruitland Park leaders are fiction, I would think that the town board members would be suing somebody because this article sure made them sound downright hokie, small minded and selfish.
Wow would that be a huge development.
4,000 more homes.
I guess it might not be "built out".
Wait until they cross 44. I've seen about 10,000 acres of open land down there that could definitely become part of TV.
I've always felt they didn't build that beautiful sales center in Brownwood for nothing.
graciegirl
08-15-2013, 08:20 PM
Just remember I said it first.
Suburb of Miami.
njbchbum
08-15-2013, 08:20 PM
Very interesting on-line newspaper article about Morse developing more land East on 466A. Fruitland Park ponders potential future impact of The Villages - ************** (http://www.**************.com/villages-wants-to-move-ridiculously-fast-on-466a-property-purchase/#comments)
Anyone know if any such meeting was really held in Fruitland Park?
read about that meeting here:
'The coming of The Villages' - Daily Commercial: News (http://www.dailycommercial.com/news/article_4c75deb8-28ec-5c57-8b50-4f5b360192d5.html)
DougB
08-15-2013, 08:32 PM
Just remember I said it first.
Suburb of Miami.
Usted tendrá que aprender a decir una segunda lengua si esto pasa
graciegirl
08-15-2013, 08:35 PM
Usted tendrá que aprender a decir una segunda lengua si esto pasa
Je parle le Francais. Un peu.
skyguy79
08-15-2013, 10:24 PM
Je parle le Francais. Un peu.Ce n'était pas Gracie Français. C'était Espagnol!
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cielgars79
Lbmb24101
08-15-2013, 10:45 PM
Usted tendrá que aprender a decir una segunda lengua si esto pasa
Usted tendrá que HABLAR español ( no 'decir) :) :)
CFrance
08-15-2013, 10:50 PM
Ce n'était pas Gracie Français. C'était Espagnol!
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cielgars79
Je pense qu'elle le sait.
DougB
08-15-2013, 10:52 PM
Usted tendrá que HABLAR español ( no 'decir) :) :)
Gracias
CFrance
08-15-2013, 10:58 PM
Just remember I said it first.
Suburb of Miami.
Je pense que c'est vrai!
jblum315
08-16-2013, 05:20 AM
Just remember I said it first.
Suburb of Miami.
Or at the very least, suburb of Orlando and its high crime rate.
billlaur
08-16-2013, 06:23 AM
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kittygilchrist
08-16-2013, 06:59 AM
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graciegirl
08-16-2013, 07:15 AM
Amor, amas, amat
And
If we absorb Fruitland Park will we all become fruity?
And
Is the Hokey Pokey REALLY what it's all about?:pepper2:
CFrance
08-16-2013, 07:38 AM
Itty-kay...
I-yay ot-gay ass-clay, an't-cay ou-yay ell-tay?
Bogie Shooter
08-16-2013, 10:12 AM
Wow would that be a huge development.
4,000 more homes.
I guess it might not be "built out".
Wait until they cross 44. I've seen about 10,000 acres of open land down there that could definitely become part of TV.
I've always felt they didn't build that beautiful sales center in Brownwood for nothing.
2000 homes, potential 4000 residents.....see article
MikeV
08-16-2013, 01:12 PM
Usted tendrá que aprender a decir una segunda lengua si esto pasa
En este punto en mi vida no quiero aprender un segundo idioma.
Mallory Voice
08-16-2013, 01:20 PM
Very interesting on-line newspaper article about Morse developing more land East on 466A. Fruitland Park ponders potential future impact of The Villages - ************** (http://www.**************.com/villages-wants-to-move-ridiculously-fast-on-466a-property-purchase/#comments)
Anyone know if any such meeting was really held in Fruitland Park?
Go to a fairly new website called: **************.com
This site is run by the 'former' editor of The Villages Daily Sun and posts the not-so-nice news of TV!
Mallory Voice
pklein9747
08-16-2013, 01:49 PM
Go to a fairly new website called: **************.com
This site is run by the 'former' editor of The Villages Daily Sun and posts the not-so-nice news of TV!
Mallory Voice
Was wondering who the editor was. Could not find any information on their site. Thanks for the info.
travelguy
08-16-2013, 04:09 PM
From what I understand Lake County is the problem. Sumter County has been welcoming and supportive of the expansion of The Villages, and has reaped all sorts of benefits including an ever expanding tax base, a population surge that has demographically changed the county (older and better educated and financially secure), an exceptional charter school, hospital/healthcare expansion, road improvements, and the list goes on and on. Lake County has been reluctant to allow The Villages to expand, and Marion County is similar. I seriously doubt that anything will change in regard to Lake County, and The Villages should just expand further into Sumter County.
njbchbum
08-16-2013, 04:56 PM
travelguy - can you share with us just how 'lake county is the problem'? thanx
justjim
08-16-2013, 05:22 PM
I can't imagine Lake County itself being a problem for The Developer. Of course, I can tell you from experience, there is always somebody or somebody's opposed to economic development.
champion6
08-16-2013, 05:43 PM
From what I understand Lake County is the problem.Hmm, maybe Lake County have changed their minds. The developer already bought about 300+ acres in unincorporated Lake County. It's immediately south and adjacent to the 600+ acres that is in Fruitland Park. If everything can be worked out, TV will be about 1,000 acres larger.
justjim
08-16-2013, 05:50 PM
It's a win-win for any community to get a retirement community. You increase your tax base and dont add any children to your schools. Such a deal IMHO.
njbchbum
08-16-2013, 06:06 PM
It's a win-win for any community to get a retirement community. You increase your tax base and dont add any children to your schools. Such a deal IMHO.
i believe the town of fruitland is ill-equipped to handle such an influx of new residents - children or not. but am sure the developer has faced that before. the villages might have to bite the bullet on a water distribution and a water treatment facility and some sort of improvements to roads and recreation facilities for the fruitland residents. without those kinds of contributions fruitland would begin to resemble a town of haves and have-nots what with 3 rec centers, new public safety facilities, pools, rec courts, etc. one of the town's concerns was also the size of their post office!
so there could be some hurdles - but i don't see them at the county level.
justjim
08-16-2013, 06:40 PM
As far as the Post Office, an increase in business is a wonderful problem to have. Nothing wrong with creating a few more jobs for Fruitland Park residents. As far as the infrastructure to support a TV addition of a couple thousands homes, I would bet that the Developer already has that problem worked out. I've never seen a city council or county comissioners that didn't make their children's education top priority. Like one said, This is a great one time opportunity. True growth has its issues but the benefits can outweigh the issues by a long shot. This new proposed village or villages will have little or no noticeable impact on the current TV as new pools and recreation centers and maybe golf courses will likely be built to accommodate the new homes. Bottom line----jobs, jobs, jobs! And taxes for the county/city.
champion6
08-16-2013, 06:51 PM
i believe the town of fruitland is ill-equipped to handle such an influx of new residents - children or not. but am sure the developer has faced that before. the villages might have to bite the bullet on a water distribution and a water treatment facility and some sort of improvements to roads and recreation facilities for the fruitland residents. without those kinds of contributions fruitland would begin to resemble a town of haves and have-nots what with 3 rec centers, new public safety facilities, pools, rec courts, etc. one of the town's concerns was also the size of their post office!
so there could be some hurdles - but i don't see them at the county level.Maybe I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but don't we expect that the new area will be set up as a CDD?
TV will put in the infrastructure and connect it to existing (or new) Villages resources - sewer, water (both potable and irrigation). I'm not sure if SECO supplies electricity in Lake County. TV will decide if natural gas will be brought in. TV will install streets, storm sewers and retention ponds.
I don't see TV performing any improvements to roads and recreation facilities for the Fruitland Park residents.
graciegirl
08-16-2013, 07:18 PM
Maybe I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but don't we expect that the new area will be set up as a CDD?
TV will put in the infrastructure and connect it to existing (or new) resources - sewer, water (both potable and irrigation). I'm not sure if SECO supplies electricity in Lake County. TV will decide if natural gas will be brought in. TV will install streets, storm sewers and retention ponds.
I don't see TV performing any improvements to roads and recreation facilities for the Fruitland Park residents.
I agree. The Villages will also have their own fire and rescue service.
In the last couple of years Fruitland Park has moved their boundary lines down near Colony. It's all a game of chess.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
08-16-2013, 07:36 PM
I ask it again. Does anyone actually believe that something called "build out" will ever really happen?
njbchbum
08-16-2013, 07:38 PM
Maybe I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but don't we expect that the new area will be set up as a CDD?
TV will put in the infrastructure and connect it to existing (or new) resources - sewer, water (both potable and irrigation). I'm not sure if SECO supplies electricity in Lake County. TV will decide if natural gas will be brought in. TV will install streets, storm sewers and retention ponds.
I don't see TV performing any improvements to roads and recreation facilities for the Fruitland Park residents.
champion6 - perhaps you can sharpen up a bit here reading the comments of some of the commissioners from whence i got my suppositions:
Fruitland Park ponders potential future impact of The Villages - ************** (http://www.**************.com/villages-wants-to-move-ridiculously-fast-on-466a-property-purchase/#comments)
and from the daily commercial article:
http://www.dailycommercial.com/news/article_4c75deb8-28ec-5c57-8b50-4f5b360192d5.html
'Commissioner Sharon Kelley, who also serves as vice-mayor, was circumspect.
“When we annexed that land into the city we included requirements for a school, a well site, a wastewater plant site and a road through the property,” Kelley said. “We put them in there because we thought we needed them. Those are major requirements that might be deal-breakers,” she said.
A final Developer’s Agreement would specify how required public facilities will be provided, Rector responded.
“Whether those facilities are located within the Villages of Fruitland Park or on the remaining Pine Ridge Dairy property makes no difference,” Rector said.
Additional improvements could also be required. But long-term impacts — future costs to the city — worried all five board members.'
justjim
08-16-2013, 07:41 PM
Will build out ever come? Only when the Developer can't buy anymore land contiguous to TV.
getdul981
08-16-2013, 08:16 PM
Just remember I said it first.
Suburb of Miami.
I ask it again. Does anyone actually believe that something called "build out" will ever really happen?
Just think, some day we'll be able to drive our golf carts to Disney world. Might take a couple of days though.
njbchbum
08-16-2013, 10:20 PM
Just think, some day we'll be able to drive our golf carts to Disney world. Might take a couple of days though.
hope i can get past the lakeridge winery without turing in there! ;)
NoMoSno
08-16-2013, 10:51 PM
Wonder if they will make 27/441 8 lanes, to handle more traffic :confused:
njbchbum
08-16-2013, 11:18 PM
Wonder if they will make 27/441 8 lanes, to handle more traffic :confused:
if they did, at the pace they work - i don't know that i would live to see it! ;)
villagerjack
08-17-2013, 12:53 AM
Ce n'était pas Gracie Français. C'était Espagnol!
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cielgars79
Mow Zee Lawn
Bosoxfan
08-17-2013, 01:49 AM
I ask it again. Does anyone actually believe that something called "build out" will ever really happen?
Not I...I've been saying it over $ over again to anyone that would listen.Why in the world would the family stop ? If the land is available they have the master plan to keep building & making more. :shrug:
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