Admin Police

[crummybuttons]

I would like to know how many of you get your hands slapped with the ruler by the admin police? It seems to me they are like Big Brother, always watching and listening, or in this case reading. Do you have nothing else better to do in the day in TV but read the posts waiting and waiting for someone to say something funny but you thought was inappropriate? You just want us to write or comment on fluffy silly things around the villages? Should we never say anything negative about a restaurant's food or the service, or how about that dog doing it's dirty business on my lawn or someone else's....Oh and those crazy drivers and those awful policemen who pull over us villagers and give us tickets we don't deserve....I tried to make light of a post and as usual the admin got very excited over nothing. Lets see, we can't talk politics anymore, and when so much is going on in the middle east. Get a life Admin....get outside and experience the villages for yourself....Oh and now you'll send me another note saying I was attacking you....well go ahead....can't wait. We really got to stop meeting like this!

[kittygilchrist]

I love the admins and the great work they do. and your post deserves to be eliminated. it is their livelihood and they do it well.
Further, I've made about all the comments you disclaim as being allowed and they were allowed.

[Mr. Grampi II]

I also think the admin's do a great job. If you look at other message boards on line and un related to the Villages you will find they are "policed" and have posts deleted all the time.

Your original post here is a the best example I have seen in a while of "​self fulfilling prophecy​"

[quirky3]

I love the admins and the great work they do. and your post deserves to be eliminated. it is their livelihood and they do it well.
Further, I've made about all the comments you disclaim as being allowed and they were allowed.

Totally agree! Thank you so much Admins for your dedication.

[crummybuttons]

well now I know who the Admins are.....about time we saw your faces......Unreal!

[40chevyguy]

I've only been a member since 12-22-2012, and this is my 5th post (I think). I don't live in TV yet, but have been a lurker here for a couple of years. With that said, I don't understand the OP. These are the finest admin(s) that I have encountered. I frequent over a dozen hot rod boards and wish the admin(s) would work /watch harder. THANK YOU to the admin(s) here on TOTV. Just my $0.02.

[kittygilchrist]

yep, Kitty and quirky and gramps. We're the police.

[Mr. Grampi II]

Hey Crummy: I can guarantee you I am not the admin. I am just a guy that appreciates polite discourse. I will say this and I am not judging you and the following is based on my perception of your "style" in reading many of your posts. Your posts certainly have an "edge" to them and maybe that is why this happens.

I mean no disrespect, just my honest observation.

[deltaguy]

well now I know who the Admins are.....about time we saw your faces......Unreal!

Not far off. In some circles they are referred to as "goody two shoes". There are many more who have not yet responded to your comments, but they will. They also all have in common an unrelenting affection for the Developer who can do no wrong, even when he's wrong. Although your courage is admirable, you won't find many more supporters.

[CFrance]

Every forum I'm on (garden, travel, TOtV) has a moderator/admin who monitors and posts and removes objectionable ones. If you want to REALLY let it hang out, go to the comments section of any online newspaper or NPR, or digit or reddit (SP?). They don't give a rip what is said. The posters there are just downright nasty to one another.

I'll take my forums with moderators, thank you. You can figure out how to post your opinion without being censored. It's not hard. Otherwise, see the above sites.

[deltaguy]

Hey Crummy: I can guarantee you I am not the admin. I am just a guy that appreciates polite discourse. I will say this and I am not judging you and the following is based on my perception of your "style" in reading many of your posts. Your posts certainly have an "edge" to them and maybe that is why this happens.

I mean no disrespect, just my honest observation.


The greeting, "Hey Crummy" is in and of itself, disrespectful!

[bluedog103]

The admins are doing their job. This is how they make their living. No, they don't live in TV.
It's really their candy store. They set and enforce the rules.
I've had no disagreements with admin. A few comments but nothing to get all excited about.

[Mr. Grampi II]

The developer does lots of stuff wrong and I am not a good two shoes, far from it.

I do not see what the connection is between the develoer and the TOTV site. It is not owned by the developer , he has no interest in it

[Mr. Grampi II]

Crummy Buttons is a screen name, just like John Smith is a street name. Would you engage somebody with "Hey John or Hey Smith" ? Thats all, no disrespect.

[deltaguy]

Crummy Buttons is a screen name, just like John Smith is a street name. Would you engage somebody with "Hey John or Hey Smith" ? Thats all, no disrespect.

Use of the contraction you chose is disrespectful. "Hey Crummy" has a distinct negative connotation that you apparently can't relate to.

[Paperboy]

I would like to know how many of you get your hands slapped with the ruler by the admin police? It seems to me they are like Big Brother, always watching and listening, or in this case reading. Do you have nothing else better to do in the day in TV but read the posts waiting and waiting for someone to say something funny but you thought was inappropriate? You just want us to write or comment on fluffy silly things around the villages? Should we never say anything negative about a restaurant's food or the service, or how about that dog doing it's dirty business on my lawn or someone else's....Oh and those crazy drivers and those awful policemen who pull over us villagers and give us tickets we don't deserve....I tried to make light of a post and as usual the admin got very excited over nothing. Lets see, we can't talk politics anymore, and when so much is going on in the middle east. Get a life Admin....get outside and experience the villages for yourself....Oh and now you'll send me another note saying I was attacking you....well go ahead....can't wait. We really got to stop meeting like this!

Play by the rules or DON'T PLAY!

[jblum315]

I think one's choice of a screen name reveals something about them. It's either neutral, or funny (or meant to be funny), or displays an attitude. Just saying.

[Patty55]

When I first started posting on here I was bothered by what I viewed as censorship. Now I don't care.

Every once in a while I have to back away because I feel like my ethers get clogged with negativity.

[graciegirl]

I got a ticket on here. And I was really hurt by it. But I know that this busy and interesting place needs someone keeping some semblance of order.

And Patty. Where are your ethers? Are they in your nose?

[kittygilchrist]

Use of the contraction you chose is disrespectful. "Hey Crummy" has a distinct negative connotation that you apparently can't relate to.

If I chose to call myself Crummy, I would feel affirmed by someone who called me what I chose to be called.

[Bogie Shooter]

I would like to know how many of you get your hands slapped with the ruler by the admin police? It seems to me they are like Big Brother, always watching and listening, or in this case reading. Do you have nothing else better to do in the day in TV but read the posts waiting and waiting for someone to say something funny but you thought was inappropriate? You just want us to write or comment on fluffy silly things around the villages? Should we never say anything negative about a restaurant's food or the service, or how about that dog doing it's dirty business on my lawn or someone else's....Oh and those crazy drivers and those awful policemen who pull over us villagers and give us tickets we don't deserve....I tried to make light of a post and as usual the admin got very excited over nothing. Lets see, we can't talk politics anymore, and when so much is going on in the middle east. Get a life Admin....get outside and experience the villages for yourself....Oh and now you'll send me another note saying I was attacking you....well go ahead....can't wait. We really got to stop meeting like this!

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[cbh1975]

Their site. Their rules. Personally, I like the rules.

[quirky3]

Not far off. In some circles they are referred to as "goody two shoes". There are many more who have not yet responded to your comments, but they will. They also all have in common an unrelenting affection for the Developer who can do no wrong, even when he's wrong. Although your courage is admirable, you won't find many more supporters.

Although I think TV is a great place, I dare you to find even one post of mine that supports the developer. You are off track for sure.

[redwitch]

Anyone who calls me a fan of the developer would have to be illiterate given my past comments about the Morses. I am, however, a fan of how this site is run.

For many years I owned a parenting site. The moderators and I were even more zealous about what was said and the tone implied. If we thought something was meant to hurt another, the post was pulled. If it happened a second time, that person's posts were all moderated and would not be posted if we felt it was hurtful. (The party was never banned but was definitely watched carefully.)

Personally, I wish there would once again be a political forum, either a sub-forum here or a new site entirely. A lot of what has been posted recently is in fact political. I think the Admins have been very gracious in allowing these postings given the times we live in.

And I'm on the side of calling crummy crummy. Not to be disrespectful but because I'm lazy and rarely type anyone's full name (including my own). Sometimes we pick names without thought to how they will look or sound shortened. This is one of those cases, I think.

Now, can we all pick up our toys, share one and play nice?

[DianeM]

While the biggest part of me really doesn't care all that much, I do sometimes wonder why when 2 (or more) Villagers get into a spat, the Admins feel it necessary to delete their posts. Disagreements are going to happen wherever there are thinking people so it seems a bit strange that people can't get into a verbal tussle without "mommy" or "daddy" as the case may be, getting involved.

I also find it a bit strange that no discussion is allowed on politics but there are constant references to this church or that church looking for new people to join their congregations. If someone asks, then by all means their questions on churches should be answered. But, I don't think it's appropriate to advertise same on a public forum.

[eweissenbach]

Their site. Their rules. Personally, I like the rules.

I am a sage, as you can see from the profile above. As a sage I feel uniquely qualified to comment and my thoughts should be taken very seriously. I have had a few posts deleted by the admin or a moderator, and have generally agreed with their decision, or at least understood the rationale. Theirs is a thankless job, and policing a board this size takes a lot of time and a ton of discretion. I have been a regular contributor on a couple other boards and their policies and methods are virtually the same, if not more stringent. I am not a mod, nor do I care to be, I am not the admin, or related to him/her, and I am not a cheerleader for the developer. I think this board is extremely well run, as is the community, and I would suggest that if it is not for you there are lots of message boards and hundreds of other retirement venues from which to choose. Ed

[cwo4mat]

Simple answer " Stop visiting the site"

[Indydealmaker]

The admins are doing their job. This is how they make their living. No, they don't live in TV.
It's really their candy store. They set and enforce the rules.
I've had no disagreements with admin. A few comments but nothing to get all excited about.

Admin may not live in TV, but there are Moderators who are longtime TOTVers. They do a good job of keeping the forum entertaining and informative for the majority of the forum members. A forum is not a democracy. Violate the rules and they do not have to give you a second chance.

There are posters on here who always have a chip on the shoulder approach to each post. I don't know whether it is old age grouchy-itis or lifelong bully-itis, but at any rate it can be downright irritating.

This forum is very well moderated.

[Love2cruise]

Simple answer " Stop visiting the site"

My thoughts exactly. I don't understand if you don't like the rules why do you play and then complain about it? I'm a firm believer in, take what you like and leave the rest behind. There is a lot of good information on this site, and some things Im not interested in, those things i leave behind. Life is too short to get worked up about comments.

[gomoho]

In answer to the original question - yes I have a mark on my permanent record.

[DougB]

In answer to the original question - yes I have a mark on my permanent record.

Only one? You are doing much better than me.:0000000000luvmyhors

[jannd228]

I am a sage, as you can see from the profile above. As a sage I feel uniquely qualified to comment and my thoughts should be taken very seriously. I have had a few posts deleted by the admin or a moderator, and have generally agreed with their decision, or at least understood the rationale. Theirs is a thankless job, and policing a board this size takes a lot of time and a ton of discretion. I have been a regular contributor on a couple other boards and their policies and methods are virtually the same, if not more stringent. I am not a mod, nor do I care to be, I am not the admin, or related to him/her, and I am not a cheerleader for the developer. I think this board is extremely well run, as is the community, and I would suggest that if it is not for you there are lots of message boards and hundreds of other retirement venues from which to choose. Ed

I am an admin, not here but on a site for teens, globally as I teach online American Literature and AP English, even though I am retired.

It is often difficult for me to allow posts from the students when they disagree. They live in different countries, mainly children at American Embassies. Therefore I understand some of the positions taken here by others. However we have to adhere to the guidelines established if we wish to participate.

I think recently I have seen some older threads re-established which I welcome as a lurker and soon to be snow bird of TV. Maybe if some of the sages here got together offline and came up with different topics it might help others.

I teach literature, but I have to adhere to frameworks, and I have to include topics in my units based on current, historical, and literary events. I am not sure how you could do it here but maybe it could be some sort of offline discussion and then a presentation.

Just my 2 cents, and truly names are irrelevant

JannD

[crummybuttons]

Boy oh Boy you guys sure get upset when people don't yes you and agree with your posts all the time. You're all focused on my screen name and you probably don't know or can't remember back when where it came from....Think on that for a while or if that's too difficult try google. And further more I think a few of you were nasty....Hey Admin....where are you now? I can't believe someone actually gets paid to do this...

[Microcodeboy]

Thank you to the "admin police". Doing a fine job.

[gomoho]

crummybuttons - why are you baiting admin??? I certainly have lots of disagreements with their decisions, but don't find it necessary to taunt them. What's up with that?

[susiejwill]

I googled Crummy Buttons and it is a term for disappointment in any given situation. That or foul-tasting food. I'm just glad to be set straight on the name--I'd been reading it crummybottoms all this time.

[asianthree]

wow i don't know what to say other than when a post was aimed at me...to hunt me down...looking for the asian poster....admin removed the poster and the post.

[Easyrider]

[QUOTE=eweissenbach;735743]I am a sage, as you can see from the profile above. As a sage I feel uniquely qualified to comment and my thoughts should be taken very seriously.


Are you really being serious or just joking around? :a040:

I thought it only meant a whole lot of time had been spent posting to get large numbers built up. I admit I had no idea it made us wise and added any credibility to anyone's posts what so ever... Good one though...

Personally some of those that post the very least have some of the best insights and I see no correlation between the number of posts and the quality of posts.

Do the other sages out there feel the same?

[ilovetv]

[QUOTE=eweissenbach;735743]I am a sage, as you can see from the profile above. As a sage I feel uniquely qualified to comment and my thoughts should be taken very seriously.


Are you really being serious or just joking around? :a040:

I thought it only meant a whole lot of time had been spent posting to get large numbers built up. I admit I had no idea it made us wise and added any credibility what so ever... Good one though...

Personally some of those that post the very least have some very good insights too and I see no correlation between the number of posts and the quality of their posts.

Do the other sages out there feel the same?

Yes. I, too, see no correlation between the number of posts and the quality of a poster's writings.

I don't see any need to record the number of posts a person has made, and I especially see no need to assign a title like sage or whatever.

The recorded number of posts and the titles assigned set up a pecking order that implies superiority or seniority for the veteran posters, and I was glad to leave pecking-order and popularity stuff behind in high school.

[CFrance]

[QUOTE=eweissenbach;735743]I am a sage, as you can see from the profile above. As a sage I feel uniquely qualified to comment and my thoughts should be taken very seriously.


Are you really being serious or just joking around? :a040:

I thought it only meant a whole lot of time had been spent posting to get large numbers built up. I admit I had no idea it made us wise and added any credibility to anyone's posts what so ever... Good one though...

Personally some of those that post the very least have some of the best insights and I see no correlation between the number of posts and the quality of posts.

Do the other sages out there feel the same?

[quote=Easyrider;735819]

Yes. I, too, see no correlation between the number of posts and the quality of a poster's writings.

I don't see any need to record the number of posts a person has made, and I especially see no need to assign a title like sage or whatever.

The recorded number of posts and the titles assigned set up a pecking order that implies superiority or seniority for the veteran posters, and I was glad to leave pecking-order and popularity stuff behind in high school.

I think you are not recognizing Ed's dry sense of humor.

[graciegirl]

[quote=Easyrider;735819]

Yes. I, too, see no correlation between the number of posts and the quality of a poster's writings.

I don't see any need to record the number of posts a person has made, and I especially see no need to assign a title like sage or whatever.

The recorded number of posts and the titles assigned set up a pecking order that implies superiority or seniority for the veteran posters, and I was glad to leave pecking-order and popularity stuff behind in high school.


ME TOO.

[asianthree]

[quote=ilovetv;735843]


ME TOO.

:bigbow: to you and your posts

[eweissenbach]

[quote=Easyrider;735819]

[quote=ilovetv;735843]

I think you are not recognizing Ed's dry sense of humor.

I am thoroughly insulted that you think I was being humorous. I am a SAGE dammit.

[kittygilchrist]

Boy oh Boy you guys sure get upset when people don't yes you and agree with your posts all the time. You're all focused on my screen name and you probably don't know or can't remember back when where it came from....Think on that for a while or if that's too difficult try google. And further more I think a few of you were nasty....Hey Admin....where are you now? I can't believe someone actually gets paid to do this...

If all of US on TOTV ever agreed on anything, it would be such a singular event the world might go off axis. I don't know if there is a "we" here, which diversity I find refreshing.
IMO you came out of the corner swinging and got boxed back. That's just how it goes in a rough neighborhood like this where we have nothing to do but eat popcorn and post with no consequences but an occasional noodle-slap from the admin police.

[eweissenbach]

[quote=CFrance;735858][quote=Easyrider;735819]



I am thoroughly insulted that you think I was being humorous. I am a SAGE dammit.

Actually I am amazed anyone would assume I was being serious. As I have consistently stated, sarcasm is a very risky tool to use on a message board. :popcorn: