Sign to keep dogs off lawn in Hillsborough

[Cobh521]

I need help in keeping dogs off my lawn. I recently moved to The Village of Hillsborough and I cannot believe how disrespectful some dog owners are. Do not get me wrong, I love dogs and owned one who recently passed. There is a couple that walks their 4 white dogs on everyone's lawns and do not seem to care if you are watching. The dogs pee (which leaves brown spots in the grass) and then wipe by scratching up the grass. Would we be permitted to put up a small sign on our lawn. I saw a very cute on on Anna Maria Drive. Would community watch speak with these people if we reported them?

[birdawg]

I need help in keeping dogs off my lawn. I recently moved to The Village of Hillsborough and I cannot believe how disrespectful some dog owners are. Do not get me wrong, I love dogs and owned one who recently passed. There is a couple that walks their 4 white dogs on everyone's lawns and do not seem to care if you are watching. The dogs pee (which leaves brown spots in the grass) and then wipe by scratching up the grass. Would we be permitted to put up a small sign on our lawn. I saw a very cute on on Anna Maria Drive. Would community watch speak with these people if we reported them?

Tell them to get off your lawn. Simple, at first nice, after that let them have it

[asianthree]

Have never understood the need to take a dog to someone else's yard to pee, but I would approach the owners and ask that they curb their dogs

[pooh]

Years ago one of our neighbors put a small sign in his yard for the same reason. Community Watch asked him to remove the sign.

If the sign is small, it might not be seen, by Community Watch or by the offending doggie owner. The suggestion to tell the owner not to use your yard is probably the best though.

[gomoho]

Doubt a sign would work - they would probably just pee on it. Try and approach them and see if you can't work things out. Some people just don't get it!

[buggyone]

When you see these people allowing their dogs to pee on your lawn, TELL them you do not like it! Nicely, one time!

What makes you think a cute sign is going to keep an inconsiderate person from letting their dog in your yard?? :confused:

I thought there is a 2 dog limit.

[Papa]

How about a sign indicating that the lawn just had chemicals applied and animals should avoid the area.

[Cobh521]

I do plan on speaking with the owners and I was unsure about the signs. I had the same concern that town watch would ask me to remove it, or it would be ignored. I just don't want a confrontation but I don't want the dogs on my lawn either. I take very good care of my lawn and don't understand why others do not seem to care about that

[getdul981]

I thought there is a 2 dog limit.

If you have more than 2 when you move in, they don't make you get rid of the excess, but you cannot replace them once they die.

[kittygilchrist]

I feel the same way as you do and I have a large dog. Having focused on reading dog poop posts for a few months, I'll give you my version of the diversity of dog walkers


Sneaks, knowing their dog on a long leash up in your yard is not right.
Clueless that you mind their dogs going in your yard and would not do it if they knew.
Brazen, know you might mind, don't care, think they are right that you should not mind.
Responsible, non-collaborative, walk the dog in the street to appropriate public area, scoop, dispose at home.
Responsible, collaborative, agree with neighbors as to which of them don't mind, and use each other's yards.


Suggestions have been posted to ask the neighbor not to and in your case with a pack of dogs that are repeaters that is a good idea.

I wish one could post a symbol, maybe just a red or green dot, on the lamppost to signify if it's ok or not to let your dogs go here. Many people don't mind at all if dogs go in their yard and that makes it impossible to have consensus on what is reasonable behavior.

[Patty55]

Oh Lord, here we go again....

Why is it that OPs always start out establishing that they "love dogs"? These insipid pee/poop threads have been going on forever, if you can't deal with the situation maybe you moved to the wrong place.

Just for the record, I don't walk my dogs on my neighbors yards, not because I think it will damage the crab grass but because I don't think it's healthy for the dogs. I try to limit my walking to the cement areas in the town squares.

[Barefoot]

I wish one could post a symbol, maybe just a red or green dot, on the lamppost to signify if it's ok or not to let your dogs go here.

Oh Kitty, you are so funny! Like any of the disrespectful dog owners would respond to a dot on a lamppost! And I really don't think there are a lot of people who would encourage dog walkers to use their lawn as a bathroom.

If I were the OP, who is obviously distressed by the walker with the four dogs, I would politely approach the walker and ask them to please not let their dogs on their lawn. I really doubt that would cause a confrontation.

As I've said before, we need more dog parks!!

[Barefoot]

Oh Lord, here we go again....

Why is it that OPs always start out establishing that they "love dogs"? These insipid pee/poop threads have been going on forever, if you can't deal with the situation maybe you moved to the wrong place.

Just for the record, I don't walk my dogs on my neighbors yards, not because I think it will damage the crab grass but because I don't think it's healthy for the dogs. I try to limit my walking to the cement areas in the town squares.

Oh Patty, how I love your posts! :girlneener:

[quirky3]

If speaking to the owners does not work, I have read in related threads about the Scarecrow motion-activated lawn sprinkler - would have to be set up just right so that it doesn't spray people coming to your door, or neighbors mowing their lawn, but people have recommended it in the past.

[Patty55]

I have a neighbor that everytime she sees me comes out to chat. She tells me every ache and pain she has ever had, how wonderful her job was back in the day and of course how smart, talented and beautiful her grandchildren are. In short... BORING.

I try to avoid that side of the street.

[janieb]

Oh Patty, how I love your posts! :girlneener:

I love your posts also Patty. In response to Kitty's post, before reading these dog poop threads, I definitely fell into the "CLUELESS" category. Now I can't claim that status anymore.

I will say, I currently have a small dog but in the past have had large dogs also, generally they have already done their business before even leaving our yard and when they are lifting their leg to pee while on walks, they are already empty and just going through the motions where they might pick up the scent of another animal - "PEE-AIR" was the name my father-in-law would give them.

[Serenoa]

Oh Lord, here we go again....

Why is it that OPs always start out establishing that they "love dogs"? These insipid pee/poop threads have been going on forever, if you can't deal with the situation maybe you moved to the wrong place.

(quote snipped by me.)

Why is it that you think someone who loves dogs can't ALSO love a nice green, unpooped/unpeed upon by every dog in the neighborhood lawn & landscape? I grew up with dogs & have always had at least one for most of my adult life. But love them as I always have, that doesn't mean neighbors or whoever have an open invitation to bring their dogs onto my property to let them do their business. That seems pretty "common sense & common courtesy" to me. When we move to TV we'll likely have a dog & will ALWAYS be respectful of other's property. Likewise, I'll expect (demand) the same from my neighbors or anyone else walking their dog(s) by our home. What seems to be wrong with that?

[jebartle]

A favorite subject among TOTV'rs....We have two small signs in our yard, "Please no pets", with no problem....I'll never understand why someone thinks it's OK to walk your pet across the street and pee in neighbors yard when you can let him pee in his own yard...We've been told by reliable sources that dog pee, when concentrated (and believe me, when one pees, they all pee) can kill the grass....So be kind to your neighbors that are toleratiing your bad behavior....And Oh, btw, pass the popcorn...here we go!:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:




I need help in keeping dogs off my lawn. I recently moved to The Village of Hillsborough and I cannot believe how disrespectful some dog owners are. Do not get me wrong, I love dogs and owned one who recently passed. There is a couple that walks their 4 white dogs on everyone's lawns and do not seem to care if you are watching. The dogs pee (which leaves brown spots in the grass) and then wipe by scratching up the grass. Would we be permitted to put up a small sign on our lawn. I saw a very cute on on Anna Maria Drive. Would community watch speak with these people if we reported them?

[Patty55]

(quote snipped by me.)

Why is it that you think someone who loves dogs can't ALSO love a nice green, unpooped/unpeed upon by every dog in the neighborhood lawn & landscape? I grew up with dogs & have always had at least one for most of my adult life. But love them as I always have, that doesn't mean neighbors or whoever have an open invitation to bring their dogs onto my property to let them do their business. That seems pretty "common sense & common courtesy" to me. When we move to TV we'll likely have a dog & will ALWAYS be respectful of other's property. Likewise, I'll expect (demand) the same from my neighbors or anyone else walking their dog(s) by our home. What seems to be wrong with that?

IMO, people always start off with "I love dogs, as a matter of fact I had a wonder dog "Muttley" for 47 years...", but the truth is they loved THEIR dog. Their dog was never a problem, but they didn't live in TV, they lived with more property, where the dog didn't have to be leashed. So, guess what? They move from their 47 acre farm in Iowa to here and can't understand why there's a problem.

As far as having an unpeed/unpoop lawn, good luck with that, take a quick wiff of the sprinklers.:shrug:

[Serenoa]

IMO, people always start off with "I love dogs, as a matter of fact I had a wonder dog "Muttley" for 47 years...", but the truth is they loved THEIR dog. Their dog was never a problem, but they didn't live in TV, they lived with more property, where the dog didn't have to be leashed. So, guess what? They move from their 47 acre farm in Iowa to here and can't understand why there's a problem.

As far as having an unpeed/unpoop lawn, good luck with that, take a quick wiff of the sprinklers.:shrug:

The only problem is uninformed, or I would imagine in most cases discourteous, disrespectful pet owners. Why do you insist on defending bad behavior??

[murray607]

IMO, people always start off with "I love dogs, as a matter of fact I had a wonder dog "Muttley" for 47 years...", but the truth is they loved THEIR dog. Their dog was never a problem, but they didn't live in TV, they lived with more property, where the dog didn't have to be leashed. So, guess what? They move from their 47 acre farm in Iowa to here and can't understand why there's a problem.

As far as having an unpeed/unpoop lawn, good luck with that, take a quick wiff of the sprinklers.:shrug:

Yup and have you ever noticed when Pit-bull owners are interviewed on a news report after their pooch chews the face off some innocent passer-by, they always come out with line "I don't understand it, he is as good as gold at home and wouldn't hurt a flea"

Same old story, it is not the dogs that are the problem, it is the owners. Seems that dogs are way easier to train than their owners.

I had a condo in Kissimme and our owners forum had the dog issue postings every month but nothing ever changed.

So these issues will endure, very little we can do other than talk to the offenders (owners that is, although the dogs may be more receptive!)

[Barefoot]

I had a condo in Kissimme and our owners forum had the dog issue postings every month but nothing ever changed. So these issues will endure, very little we can do other than talk to the offenders (owners that is, although the dogs may be more receptive!)

You are right Murray. I don't understand why people think that continually starting complaint threads on TOTV about dogs is more effective than walking out and talking to the offenders. :ohdear:

[Patty55]

The only problem is uninformed, or I would imagine in most cases discourteous, disrespectful pet owners. Why do you insist on defending bad behavior??

Prior to moving here I researched the pet rules and had no problem, still don't. Why would anyone insist that following the rules exhibits bad behavior?

Query me this, why would anyone consider moving to a place where they take issue with the rules?

[Barefoot]

Prior to moving here I researched the pet rules and had no problem, still don't. Why would anyone insist that following the rules exhibits bad behavior? Query me this, why would anyone consider moving to a place where they take issue with the rules?

We moved to The Villages for one reason .... because it is a dog friendly community and allows two pets per household with no size restrictions. Why are people surprised or concerned that there are hundreds of dogs? Didn't they read the rules, or see the dogs being walked in the Town Squares? We did.

Living in a dog friendly community means that we all need to be respectful of other residents' private property. For the most part, this happens. If someone is trespassing on your property, ask them to stop. It's that simple.

[Cobh521]

Oh Lord, here we go again....

Why is it that OPs always start out establishing that they "love dogs"? These insipid pee/poop threads have been going on forever, if you can't deal with the situation maybe you moved to the wrong place.

Just for the record, I don't walk my dogs on my neighbors yards, not because I think it will damage the crab grass but because I don't think it's healthy for the dogs. I try to limit my walking to the cement areas in the town squares.

I do love dogs and was very upset when our toy poodle of 17 years passes away. I started out with that comment, because I did not want to appear as a dog hater. I do not feel that I moved to the wrong place by moving to the Villages. I do, however, know that I bought and paid for a piece of property that has my name on it and no one should thinks that this is common area to walk their dogs. I do not walk on other people's property as I have respect for each and every person. I would like the same respect

[kittygilchrist]

Oh Kitty, you are so funny! Like any of the disrespectful dog owners would respond to a dot on a lamppost! And I really don't think there are a lot of people who would encourage dog walkers to use their lawn as a bathroom.

If I were the OP, who is obviously distressed by the walker with the four dogs, I would politely approach the walker and ask them to please not let their dogs on their lawn. I really doubt that would cause a confrontation.

As I've said before, we need more dog parks!!

Barefoot, they DO invite people to use their yards! Some neighbors collaborate to use each other's yards. It's a thing of beauty where not many solutions work.

[Serenoa]

I do love dogs and was very upset when our toy poodle of 17 years passes away. I started out with that comment, because I did not want to appear as a dog hater. I do not feel that I moved to the wrong place by moving to the Villages. I do, however, know that I bought and paid for a piece of property that has my name on it and no one should thinks that this is common area to walk their dogs. I do not walk on other people's property as I have respect for each and every person. I would like the same respect

:agree::agree::agree::agree:

[Barefoot]

Barefoot, they DO invite people to use their yards! Some neighbors collaborate to use each other's yards. It's a thing of beauty where not many solutions work.

Kitty, I stand corrected. I haven't seen it happen. Perhaps it's a Gilchrist thing ... I hear it's a very friendly community!

[ilovetv]

It's the disrespect for personal property ownership.

And it's the growing population of people who are entitled to what belongs to somebody else.

People speak out here hoping that normal, respectful, considerate residents mount some public pressure on these brazen jerks.

[kittygilchrist]

Kitty, I stand corrected. I haven't seen it happen. Perhaps it's a Gilchrist thing ... I hear it's a very friendly community!

We need a euphemism for neighborhood poop collaborative! What would we call it?

[Down Sized]

I need help in keeping dogs off my lawn. I recently moved to The Village of Hillsborough and I cannot believe how disrespectful some dog owners are. Do not get me wrong, I love dogs and owned one who recently passed. There is a couple that walks their 4 white dogs on everyone's lawns and do not seem to care if you are watching. The dogs pee (which leaves brown spots in the grass) and then wipe by scratching up the grass. Would we be permitted to put up a small sign on our lawn. I saw a very cute on on Anna Maria Drive. Would community watch speak with these people if we reported them?

If I have this problem I will sneak into my garage and turn the front sprinklers on manually. I bet after the second or third time they will be more careful when they can come by!:girlneener:

[kittygilchrist]

If I have this problem I will sneak into my garage and turn the front sprinklers on manually. I bet after the second or third time they will be more careful when they can come by!:girlneener:

I get your humor and spunky attitude, which I share, but if you do happen to see someone on your yard, by the time you get the sprinkler on, they will likely be gone.

[CFrance]

Back to the original question. The deed restrictions are complaint driven, meaning they would not tell you to take a sign down unless someone lodged a complaint. So I'm guessing you could get a small sign or two and by the time someone complained (if they even did), you would have gotten your point across to the offender. If the sign didn't work, then you could speak to that person.

I have seen such signs in a couple of yards around the area south of 466, where deed restrictions say no signs.

[maryanna630]

The limit is two dogs. I would speak to them and if the problem continues file a complaint about the number of dogs.

[Patty55]

The limit is two dogs. I would speak to them and if the problem continues file a complaint about the number of dogs.

Not really, whatever number you move in with is fine. I've found that if you have more than two they should be dressed alike. HELLooo, it's called Trompe L'oeil. Works for me.

[Ecuadog]

Hopefully, this will be my one and only post to "the dog poop chronicles." From my extensive research (about 3 minutes), it would seem that dogs do not like the smell of vinegar. Why not get an empty spray bottle and a gallon of cheap white vinegar and spray it all over the curb in the street? Don't get a lot on the grass though. It might kill it.

Let me know if it works. I'll invest in vinegar futures.

[Cobh521]

Not really, whatever number you move in with is fine. I've found that if you have more than two they should be dressed alike. HELLooo, it's called Trompe L'oeil. Works for me.

As quoted in our deed restrictions

"2.23. Birds, fish, dogs,and cats shall be permitted, with a maximum of (2) pets per homesite. Each owner shall be personally responsible for any damage caused to a dedicated or reserved area by any such pet and shall be responsible to immediately remove and dispose of any excrement of such pet and shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leach. No other animals, livestock , or poultry of any kind shall be raised, bred, or kept on any Homesite or on a dedicated or reserved area "

There is nothing listed as an exception as far as moving in with more pets.

[downeaster]

I do love dogs and was very upset when our toy poodle of 17 years passes away. I started out with that comment, because I did not want to appear as a dog hater. I do not feel that I moved to the wrong place by moving to the Villages. I do, however, know that I bought and paid for a piece of property that has my name on it and no one should thinks that this is common area to walk their dogs. I do not walk on other people's property as I have respect for each and every person. I would like the same respect

Back to the original question. The deed restrictions are complaint driven, meaning they would not tell you to take a sign down unless someone lodged a complaint. So I'm guessing you could get a small sign or two and by the time someone complained (if they even did), you would have gotten your point across to the offender. If the sign didn't work, then you could speak to that person.

I have seen such signs in a couple of yards around the area south of 466, where deed restrictions say no signs.

I think the OP came to this forum with a very legitimate concern. In fact it is shared by many.

I also think Cfrance's suggestion is a good way to handle the problem.

BTW, I have found a lot of dog walkers know the locations the snowbird owned homes.

[Patty55]

As quoted in our deed restrictions

"2.23. Birds, fish, dogs,and cats shall be permitted, with a maximum of (2) pets per homesite. Each owner shall be personally responsible for any damage caused to a dedicated or reserved area by any such pet and shall be responsible to immediately remove and dispose of any excrement of such pet and shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leach. No other animals, livestock , or poultry of any kind shall be raised, bred, or kept on any Homesite or on a dedicated or reserved area "

There is nothing listed as an exception as far as moving in with more pets.

In the real world that is not how it is, you can move in with whatever you have and then dress them alike.

SORRY, you're wrong.

[Mikeod]

We were told that if you have more than 2 pets when you move in you can keep them. But you can not replace any that die if that will keep you above 2. They don't expect you to have to make a decision to give away or sell a pet or pets in order to move in, but expect you to reach the stated limit through attrition.

[Patty55]

We were told that if you have more than 2 pets when you move in you can keep them. But you can not replace any that die if that will keep you above 2. They don't expect you to have to make a decision to give away or sell a pet or pets in order to move in, but expect you to reach the stated limit through attrition.

Yup, that's the REAL RULE, same as with wives. I have a polygamist group on my street and they were told to not replace them as they go.

[Pepperhead]

As quoted in our deed restrictions

"2.23. Birds, fish, dogs,and cats shall be permitted, with a maximum of (2) pets per homesite. Each owner shall be personally responsible for any damage caused to a dedicated or reserved area by any such pet and shall be responsible to immediately remove and dispose of any excrement of such pet and shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leach. No other animals, livestock , or poultry of any kind shall be raised, bred, or kept on any Homesite or on a dedicated or reserved area "

There is nothing listed as an exception as far as moving in with more pets.

Wow, a two fish limit. Harsh.

[Patty55]

Wow, a two fish limit. Harsh.

And they have to be kept on a "leach". :girlneener:

[justjim]

As quoted in our deed restrictions

"2.23. Birds, fish, dogs,and cats shall be permitted, with a maximum of (2) pets per homesite. Each owner shall be personally responsible for any damage caused to a dedicated or reserved area by any such pet and shall be responsible to immediately remove and dispose of any excrement of such pet and shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leach. No other animals, livestock , or poultry of any kind shall be raised, bred, or kept on any Homesite or on a dedicated or reserved area "

There is nothing listed as an exception as far as moving in with more pets.

Yep, that's what they say. Exceptions for dogs, huh? How about someone who has to take their grandkids in because of an accident or......Nope of course not an exception for that. Well----you get my point. "Exceptions" for the long term can become a slippery slope.

Unless you approach this person (in a nice way) you don't know if all the dogs are theirs---maybe just keeping a couple for a friend while they are in Europe or someplace for the summer. I would certainly go out and meet this person and see how it goes and find out the "story.". I would probably mention the need for a dog park in south TV because neighbors get sort of upset for dogs "messing" in their yards. See how it goes---maybe even invite them for a beverage sometime. :beer3:

[buggyone]

This is Florida! Stand your ground.

[gomoho]

This is Florida! Stand your ground.

Buggy - I don't think that is either funny or appropriate.:confused:

[buggyone]

Buggy - I don't think that is either funny or appropriate.:confused:

It is BOTH!

[TheVillageChicken]

I have found a loophole for the sign. One can have a sign identifying the occupant, so I have petitioned the court to legally change my name to Keep Your Damn Dog Off My Yard.

[gomoho]

I have found a loophole for the sign. One can have a sign identifying the occupant, so I have petitioned the court to legally change my name to Keep Your Damn Dog Off My Yard.

:a20:

[BobnBev]

As quoted in our deed restrictions

"2.23. Birds, fish, dogs,and cats shall be permitted, with a maximum of (2) pets per homesite. Each owner shall be personally responsible for any damage caused to a dedicated or reserved area by any such pet and shall be responsible to immediately remove and dispose of any excrement of such pet and shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leach. No other animals, livestock , or poultry of any kind shall be raised, bred, or kept on any Homesite or on a dedicated or reserved area "

There is nothing listed as an exception as far as moving in with more pets.

:a20::a20:Rats, there goes my chicken farm idea...:crap2:

[CFrance]

I have found a loophole for the sign. One can have a sign identifying the occupant, so I have petitioned the court to legally change my name to Keep Your Damn Dog Off My Yard.

Gonna take a long time to sign your checks!

[TheVillageChicken]

Gonna take a long time to sign your checks!

Not really. My signature looks like chicken scratch.

[lovsthosebigdogs]

Maybe I'm just deluding myself, but I really believe that this person can't understand how you feel about walking the dogs on your property every day. I also agree with the other posters that if you spoke to her and explained (calmly) that it really was nothing personal and you just wanted to keep your lawn looking pristine and the dogs walking on it was really bothering you, I can't imagine anyone ignoring a direct request and doing it again. Especially if you went about it in a positive way and thanked her ahead of time, saying that you were sure she would be happy to oblige if she knew how much it meant to you. What person would ignore a request put that way? You know the old saying about catching more flies with honey than with vinegar, well, if you are so nice she can't help herself, I am sure it will work. Very few people will blatantly disregard a person's requests when they flatter them first and act incredibly nice about it. It’s hard to argue with nice. And you can also maintain good neighbor relations that way.

[Parker]

It's the disrespect for personal property ownership.

And it's the growing population of people who are entitled to what belongs to somebody else.

People speak out here hoping that normal, respectful, considerate residents mount some public pressure on these brazen jerks.

Yes! Well put. The OP has every right to expect curtesy from his neighbors.

[donb9006]

I don't know if it's been brought up already...it should have.

As far as I know, the first 10 feet or so next to the road is NOT "your property". It is public land, the same as the street. You have no more right telling someone to stay off as you do telling them not to drive on the street.

If someone is leaving their dog crap behind, confront THEM. And if they continue, be creative.

[Cobh521]

I don't know if it's been brought up already...it should have.

As far as I know, the first 10 feet or so next to the road is NOT "your property". It is public land, the same as the street. You have no more right telling someone to stay off as you do telling them not to drive on the street.

If someone is leaving their dog crap behind, confront THEM. And if they continue, be creative.

The property does belong to the property owner with an easement for utilities just as the side and rear setback easements. The owner of the house is responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of these areas.

If you believe this is public, then you are stating that anyone can use your property by the front, side, and rear of your house. I don't think so.

[donb9006]

The property does belong to the property owner with an easement for utilities just as the side and rear setback easements. The owner of the house is responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of these areas.

If you believe this is public, then you are stating that anyone can use your property by the front, side, and rear of your house. I don't think so.

Public as in anyone can WALK on it...think sidewalks...think road right of way. It's why fences never go to the curb...because it's not your property. It's government owned. You maintain it but don't own it. At least that was my understanding. When the survey is done, I believe it goes down to where the right of way is. Your property, doesn't stop right at the curb, it stops about 10 ft up into the grass. A good gauge are the streetlights, I believe they're put at the boundary between the right of way and your property. In many places, telephone poles are placed at the boundary.

I don't think you can legally prevent someone from walking their dog along that right of way. They are within their rights. But, they're also required to scoop it up. Like I said, habitual scofflaws, should be treated with prejudice! I know what "I" would do, I'd return it to them in a most unpleasant manner.

[deltaguy]

I need help in keeping dogs off my lawn. I recently moved to The Village of Hillsborough and I cannot believe how disrespectful some dog owners are. Do not get me wrong, I love dogs and owned one who recently passed. There is a couple that walks their 4 white dogs on everyone's lawns and do not seem to care if you are watching. The dogs pee (which leaves brown spots in the grass) and then wipe by scratching up the grass. Would we be permitted to put up a small sign on our lawn. I saw a very cute on on Anna Maria Drive. Would community watch speak with these people if we reported them?

Report them to Community Watch. Only allowed to have 2 pets in any home. If they don't care about the rules why would they care about you or your lawn?

[Patty55]

Report them to Community Watch. Only allowed to have 2 pets in any home. If they don't care about the rules why would they care about you or your lawn?

Again, not true.

[rubicon]

I am finding some very confusing comments on this thread...or maybe I am confused.

anyway I remember in another thread some time back that a poster mentioned that because she had four dogs The Villages would not allow her family to move here with four but they could with two.

Secondly what exactly is a dog friendly community. I thought Florida's Friendliest Hometown" referred to its friendly neighbors.

When I lived in MN a neighbor let his dog roam free and his dog loved my lawn. Despite the fact that I sent out animal control three times and returned the dogs gifts to his own yard he never stopped. Perhaps it was my mistake for not confronting him? anyway on the day that I moved out he stopped by and expressed disappointment that we were not better acquainted.

P.S. I do not like dogs,cats, squirrels, ...................................... I like people who like people and not dogs, cats, squirrels......................:D

[Diva Kay]

So sorry to hear you are having this problem girlfriend!

[CFrance]

I am finding some very confusing comments on this thread...or maybe I am confused.

anyway I remember in another thread some time back that a poster mentioned that because she had four dogs The Villages would not allow her family to move here with four but they could with two.

Secondly what exactly is a dog friendly community. I thought Florida's Friendliest Hometown" referred to its friendly neighbors.

When I lived in MN a neighbor let his dog roam free and his dog loved my lawn. Despite the fact that I sent out animal control three times and returned the dogs gifts to his own yard he never stopped. Perhaps it was my mistake for not confronting him? anyway on the day that I moved out he stopped by and expressed disappointment that we were not better acquainted.

P.S. I do not like dogs,cats, squirrels, ...................................... I like people who like people and not dogs, cats, squirrels......................:D

Most dogs and cats don't like people who don't like dogs and cats. Can't speak for squirrels. The rest of my comment is, I am _________________ sorry must delete.

[Teeitup]

Public as in anyone can WALK on it...think sidewalks...think road right of way. It's why fences never go to the curb...because it's not your property. It's government owned. You maintain it but don't own it. At least that was my understanding. When the survey is done, I believe it goes down to where the right of way is. Your property, doesn't stop right at the curb, it stops about 10 ft up into the grass. A good gauge are the streetlights, I believe they're put at the boundary between the right of way and your property. In many places, telephone poles are placed at the boundary.
You may want to research "easement" a little more.

A utility easement (such as what you describe), is NOT public property.

It simply allows utilities to gain access to their infrastructure, but it is still YOUR property.

A public easement (such as a path to the beach between two houses) is a different animal.



I don't think you can legally prevent someone from walking their dog along that right of way. They are within their rights. But, they're also required to scoop it up. Like I said, habitual scofflaws, should be treated with prejudice! I know what "I" would do, I'd return it to them in a most unpleasant manner.
You can certainly stop someone from using your property as a footpath (unless a public easement is in place as described above) or pet depositary.

Having said that, I agree with those who say you should approach the offender and ask them nicely, to please stop allowing their dog from pooping/peeing on your lawn.

[graciegirl]

It is BOTH!

No. It isn't.

This is a big enough smelly, messy issue without adding yet another messy issue.

We need to fight about one thing at a time.

[graciegirl]

You are right Murray. I don't understand why people think that continually starting complaint threads on TOTV about dogs is more effective than walking out and talking to the offenders. :ohdear:

Because they are Chicken.

The Village Chicken told me this himself. I knew it anyway, because I am chicken.

[gemorc]

I have a corner lot. One of my neighbors' dogs loves to water my lawn. On two occasions I have talked to the owner, but to no avail. The third time, I told the dog owner that I was going to follow her home, and I would pee in her lawn. I started to follow her, she started running, I have not seen her since.

[CFrance]

I have a corner lot. One of my neighbors' dogs loves to water my lawn. On two occasions I have talked to the owner, but to no avail. The third time, I told the dog owner that I was going to follow her home, and I would pee in her lawn. I started to follow her, she started running, I have not seen her since.
:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause: I love it!

[Cobh521]

Because they are Chicken.

The Village Chicken told me this himself.

I actually started the thread seeking information about putting up a sign regarding the situation I am experiencing. There have been a lot of good suggestions and I thank those people for the suggestions. If I knew how to delete this thread I would as it is apparent that it was misinterpreted. I realize that we are all entitled to our opinions and they should be respected not criticized

Thank You

[kittygilchrist]

I am finding some very confusing comments on this thread...or maybe I am confused.

anyway I remember in another thread some time back that a poster mentioned that because she had four dogs The Villages would not allow her family to move here with four but they could with two.

Secondly what exactly is a dog friendly community. I thought Florida's Friendliest Hometown" referred to its friendly neighbors.

When I lived in MN a neighbor let his dog roam free and his dog loved my lawn. Despite the fact that I sent out animal control three times and returned the dogs gifts to his own yard he never stopped. Perhaps it was my mistake for not confronting him? anyway on the day that I moved out he stopped by and expressed disappointment that we were not better acquainted.

P.S. I do not like dogs,cats, squirrels, ...................................... I like people who like people and not dogs, cats, squirrels......................:D

Rubicon, you know I revere your intellect. But on this topic, I'm throwing down the gauntlet. I challenge you to meet Emma and dislike her. I'll bet you can't do both.

[kittygilchrist]

I actually started the thread seeking information about putting up a sign regarding the situation I am experiencing. There have been a lot of good suggestions and I thank those people for the suggestions. If I knew how to delete this thread I would as it is apparent that it was misinterpreted. I realize that we are all entitled to our opinions and they should be respected not criticized

Thank You

Hang in here with us, please. You bumbled on here early with a most relevant piercing question that focuses many of us to examine our practices with dogs. We all need to keep asking how to get along...as you have seen, it's not easy.
IMO all these discussions help us understand each other. Forget people all agreeing. It just doesn't happen with us, we're all too wise for that.
Hang tough,
Kitty, Responsible, non-collaborative dog walker.

[Patty55]

I actually started the thread seeking information about putting up a sign regarding the situation I am experiencing. There have been a lot of good suggestions and I thank those people for the suggestions. If I knew how to delete this thread I would as it is apparent that it was misinterpreted. I realize that we are all entitled to our opinions and they should be respected not criticized

Thank You

Oh the drama, just put a Dean's sign out.:22yikes:

[Teeitup]

I have a corner lot. One of my neighbors' dogs loves to water my lawn. On two occasions I have talked to the owner, but to no avail. The third time, I told the dog owner that I was going to follow her home, and I would pee in her lawn. I started to follow her, she started running, I have not seen her since.

Excellent! :highfive:

[Barefoot]

I have a corner lot. One of my neighbors' dogs loves to water my lawn. On two occasions I have talked to the owner, but to no avail. The third time, I told the dog owner that I was going to follow her home, and I would pee in her lawn. I started to follow her, she started running, I have not seen her since.

OK, that is funny and clever. :1rotfl: But you may find at neighborhood parties, people are a little weirded out and worried that you may start peeing on everyone's lawn.

[missypie]

We came here with no doggie. My heart is a bit empty. Because of all this, we will NOT be getting another doggie.

[CFrance]

We came here with no doggie. My heart is a bit empty. Because of all this, we will NOT be getting another doggie.

I certainly wouldn't let a bunch of crabapples jumping gleefully into another dog poop thread keep me from getting another dog if my heart were empty.

[kittygilchrist]

We came here with no doggie. My heart is a bit empty. Because of all this, we will NOT be getting another doggie.

I am thinking you feel better just for looking at doggie posts. All hearts up for you in your grief. many of us know what it is to lose a beloved. you're not the only one to ever go through it by any means. my loss was in 1992, Charlie. glad I've moved on.

[Sanbo]

I am new to TV, but also thought there was a 2 dog limit. If there is no limit to the number of dogs you have when you move in, what is the number limit when you move to The Villages? If this couple has four, what happens when someone moves in with, say 10. Do you have to wait until 8 of their dogs die, so they will have the "acceptable" amount of dogs? This actually makes no sense to me. Why not have a set limit when moving into The Villages...Period. I love dogs, but as close as the homes are in The Villages, this just seems to be a no brainer...2 dogs to a household.

[Patty55]

I am new to TV, but also thought there was a 2 dog limit. If there is no limit to the number of dogs you have when you move in, what is the number limit when you move to The Villages? If this couple has four, what happens when someone moves in with, say 10. Do you have to wait until 8 of their dogs die, so they will have the "acceptable" amount of dogs? This actually makes no sense to me. Why not have a set limit when moving into The Villages...Period. I love dogs, but as close as the homes are in The Villages, this just seems to be a no brainer...2 dogs to a household.

Yep, no brainer. I think commmon sense would dictate that someone with ten dogs wouldn't want to live here and have to walk them and continually view threads such as this one.

Actually the most I have ever heard of was seven. I have heard (from a reliable source)about people stocking up at the puppy mills on 95 before they get here. Yep, they stock up on cigarettes, fireworks and inbred puppies. Thankfully, these people are in the minority.

[susiejwill]

I don't mean to hijinks this thread but Kitty Gilchrist that is one beautiful dog.

[Barefoot]

We came here with no doggie. My heart is a bit empty. Because of all this, we will NOT be getting another doggie.

If you read almost any thread on any topic, you will notice complaints from some grumpy, negative people. But most people in The Villages are happy fun -loving individuals who are so happy with their choice of retirement community. This thread only applies to dog owners that are disrespectful of others. If you are respectful about people's private property, then this thread shouldn't worry you at all.

Fireboy and I would both be devasted without our two dogs, we are both crazy about dogs. Please don't let a few people complaining about disrespectful dog owners put you off. For the most part, people in The Villages really like dogs and will stop you to pat your dog and ask questions. These negative dog threads are definitely not indicative of the way most people feel.

Missy pie, there is a fluffy little dog in a shelter who would love to be rescued by you and sleep adoringly on your lap!

[Golfingnut]

As I have said in the past, I have a large lot and dogs are welcome to do what ever they wish. HOWEVER, if you allow your dogs to do their thing in someone else's yard without first hand knowledge that it is OK, YOU ARE:

Stupid
arrogant
obnoxious
uncaring
selfish
doltish
troublesome
annoying
discourteous
and most of all A VERY BAD NEIGHBOR

[senior citizen]

Amazon.com: White Dog "NO" Yard Sign: Sports & Outdoors

I saw the hyperlink on my email, but you have to click on the little brown Amazon "square" to top left.
It shows a picture of the sign....which is the large version. It works. Just stick it in the ground.
************************************************** *************************************

This works......except for one dingbat woman who walks three dogs on long leashes.

They go wherever they please and drag her up the hilly lawn to their favorite spot.

Finally, I did say "Good Morning" which startled her.

I then proceeded to point out the sign........whereby she held up her plastic baggy and "scooper".

After I told her that our grandbabies toddle down and might crawl on that grass, she stopped.

As my husband says, you cannot pick up urine with a pooper scooper....and it does kill the grass.

We have woods all around that she could walk in. It took me twenty years to say something to her. This woman has high intelligence. It is just that the dogs come first in her life. Sad.

She is our neighbor down the road; lives alone.......the animals are her "life" as her one and only child is working in Israel at our U.S. embassy. I "get it" but she never did. I'd say I'm pretty patient.

But the sign does work..........every one else now walks the dogs on the other side of the road.

We live on a cul de sac ....so they go up one side and down the other.......but now stay on the other side.

[OCsun]

Yep, no brainer. I think commmon sense would dictate that someone with ten dogs wouldn't want to live here and have to walk them and continually view threads such as this one.

Actually the most I have ever heard of was seven. I have heard (from a reliable source)about people stocking up at the puppy mills on 95 before they get here. Yep, they stock up on cigarettes, fireworks and inbred puppies. Thankfully, these people are in the minority.

Patty I love to read your posts! You are a hoot! :1rotfl:

[graciegirl]

I actually started the thread seeking information about putting up a sign regarding the situation I am experiencing. There have been a lot of good suggestions and I thank those people for the suggestions. If I knew how to delete this thread I would as it is apparent that it was misinterpreted. I realize that we are all entitled to our opinions and they should be respected not criticized

Thank You

I meant my post as humor. You have every right to expect for people to not allow their dogs to potty on your property.

I am really lucky, no one in our enclosed village of 54 homes does that. Maybe because they know we all know each other and maybe because they are all responsible. As a result, I don't feel put upon and can enjoy their dogs. I know every one of them and like them all. We have cats.

I couldn't go out and ask someone to keep their dogs off of my lawn. This may in part be that I am chicken, as I was joking, or that I am from Ohio, and we are taught to mind our own business, while gritting our teeth. I notice some areas of the country as a group are more outspoken than others.

You are so right that you do have a right to voice your very valid opinion without criticism. I apologize.

[senior citizen]

I meant my post as humor. You have every right to expect for people to not allow their dogs to potty on your property.

I am really lucky, no one in our enclosed village of 54 homes does that. Maybe because they know we all know each other and maybe because they are all responsible. As a result, I don't feel put upon and can enjoy their dogs. I know every one of them and like them all. We have cats.

I couldn't go out and ask someone to keep their dogs off of my lawn. This may in part be that I am chicken, as I was joking, or that I am from Ohio, and we are taught to mind our own business, while gritting our teeth. I notice some areas of the country as a group are more outspoken than others.

You are so right that you do have a right to voice your very valid opinion without criticism. I apologize.

I realize you weren't referring to my post about the white scotty dog "NO" sign.....but I wanted to add something to your post.

It took me TWENTY YEARS to say something to this dimwitted neighbor who actually has a high I.Q......does that make sense? Can one be so intelligent that they just live on another planet as far as what is right and wrong?

Every time she'd let these Dobermans choose their own potty place, even if it meant walking UP HILL ONTO OUR LAWNS.....It isn't flat in Vermont.

She had to leave the road and trespass, if you will. Now, this is a super friendly neighborhood; we've all raised our children together since infancy for the past 43 years........that's a long long time.

We let it "ride"......but one morning I opened the front door and startled her down by the "dog sign" letting the three dogs do their business on the sign itself..........that's when I said "GOOD MORNING". She jumped.
It was this past spring or early summer.

I said, "There's a sign there"......knowing full well she could read or see the symbol....and the word NO.

That's when she said "I have a bag" and held up the plastic bag and the pooper scooper.........so I simply replied....."Our grandbabies like to toddle down there and crawl around...." Well, that did it. She pulled the three Dobermans, yanked them away........and actually has found a new path to travel each morning and evening...........we have nice green woods around here where she can have them poop to their hearts content.

We've had all kinds of dogs while raising our kids but never let them go on people's lawns or driveways or front porches, etc...........we've also had cats. Once in our other home, I actually got a phone call from a neighbor on the lower part of our street (it's hilly and terraced).....she asked me if I could get my cat to stop coming down and sitting on her picnic table.
Well, anyone who has had cats........know that you don't walk them; they have a mind of their own..........but guess being a cat owner, we were just as guilty as the dog owner.

My husband doesn't like the grass being "killed" by rude dog walkers.
You are all lucky to have those doggy parks in THE VILLAGES.

Also, some dogs have parasites and if they leave a watery residue, would anyone (not just me) want their grandchildren to walk barefoot into it????
Again, this person has no significant other, no grandchildren.....and the dogs are her LIFE. Not normal.

[senior citizen]

http://www.doodycalls.com/resources_toxic_dog_waste.asp (wlmailhtml:{125ECE88-7FD7-49CD-BE22-87F8985AACC1}mid://00000005/!x-usc:http://www.doodycalls.com/resources_toxic_dog_waste.asp)

Dog waste causes environmental problems.
Dog waste is toxic.
Please read the subjects on left sidebar (on above hyperlink).

Also, one picture speaks a thousand words......
This precious baby sitting in who knows what????
As you know, they do tend to put everything into their little mouths.......
Not to mention adults who might walk through their own grass barefooted....

Dog feces are one of the most common carriers of the following diseases:

Heartworms (http://www.doodycalls.com/resources_dog_poop_heartworms.asp)
Whipworms (http://www.doodycalls.com/resources_whipworms.asp)
Hookworms
Roundworms
Tapeworms
Parvo (http://www.doodycalls.com/resources_dog_waste_parvovirus.asp)
Corona
Giardiasis (http://www.doodycalls.com/resources_giardiasis.asp)
Salmonellosis
Cryptosporidiosis
Campylobacteriosis



Please click on hyperlink above to read all..........

[Barefoot]

Amazon.com: White Dog "NO" Yard Sign: Sports & Outdoors (http://www.amazon.com/White-Dog-NO-Yard-Sign/dp/B000GDU8T4) It shows a picture of the sign....which is the large version. It works. Just stick it in the ground.

SC, I think you're being humorous, not sure. With all due respect, I think you already know, even though you don't live here, that Village Covenants prohibit signs in most parts of The Villages.

[Barefoot]

Patty I love to read your posts! You are a hoot! :1rotfl:

Patty's post are a breath of fresh air, short and funny. She is a hoot!

[senior citizen]

SC, I think you're being humorous, not sure. With all due respect, I think you already know, even though you don't live here, that Village Covenants prohibit signs in most parts of The Villages.


It does give people a chuckle when they see it, but no....I wasn't being humorous. I actually purchased it for my husband; when it arrived he immediately went down and put it in the ground next to our mailbox post.

Everyone up here loves it. We don't have laws against putting signs on our lawns in Vermont. Guess I was not thinking when I suggested the OP purchase one......that it wouldn't be "legal" in TV.

P.S. I just read the original post and they did ask about a "sign"....so I guess that's why I shared our sign with them.
Please refer to my earlier post re the environmental hazards in dog feces which people or children might step into on lawns.....no matter where they are.

[Patty55]

Here you all go.... I think this sign would work.

[graciegirl]

Here you all go.... I think this sign would work.

Patty. Patty. Patty. There is no one like you. No one.

Don't change.

[Patty55]

Patty. Patty. Patty. There is no one like you. No one.

Don't change.

Thank you, right now I am very bitter. In anticipation of being "turned in" I just flushed three of my five goldfish and am having a heck of a time trying to put "leaches" on the remaining two.

DO YOU ALL THINK IT'S EASY??

[kittygilchrist]

Here you all go.... I think this sign would work.

bwahah! :eclipsee_gold_cup:
Sassy Patty Award

[e-flyer]

Patty, thank you for your comments, they make me smile! Let's change this thread to the Patty thread and have some fun with humor, instead of all this talk about pee and poo.

[kittygilchrist]

meanwhile, back at the ranch, the OP is asking the pack owner for consideration...wonder how that will go...

[DougB]

Here you all go.... I think this sign would work.

How about this one?

[Golfingnut]

Here you all go.... I think this sign would work.

As a dog lover I say.....:MOJE_whot:

[blueeagle65]

Turn your sprinklers on when you see they out there :laugh:

[rjn5656]

Turn the sprinklers on when they come near your lawn

[kittygilchrist]

Sprinklers as a choice means I have to stand in the yard waiting for dog people approach, run into the garage, turn the sprinkler on, shut the garage door, hide in the house and then remember to turn off the sprinkler.
That is sneaky, unassertive, a poor use of time, energy and water, and likely to give me a reputation as a complete nut and no chance to work out a better solution.

[gomoho]

True dat:agree:

[asianthree]

at 100 posts has the thread helped the op.....maybe print it off and hand to the offending walkers;)

[Cobh521]

at 100 posts has the thread helped the op.....maybe print it off and hand to the offending walkers;)

Yes it may have helped me. I have all intentions of speaking to the offender, however, since posting this thread, the offender has not been around on our block. Maybe they read it! I hope they are utilizing their own property and not someone else's

[zendog3]

I have 2 dogs. I walk them on the street to the local pond to do their business. Some times the sneak onto a lawn despite my best efforts. You should know -- First a dog has to pee a lot. That will leave a brown spot. After that, they "mark territory" -- just a few drops, it won't harm the lawn, but another dog may mark over it, still not problem. This usually happens on corners and busy sidewalk lots. If a dog should poop on your lawn, a responsible owner should be able to pick it up completely. As a responsible pet owner, I appreciate people who tolerate or even greet my pets. I try to reciprocate as there is probably something others do that bugs me just a little. We are all in life together. I try to celebrate the variety among my brothers and sisters. Life is sweeter if you can.

[Easyrider]

I have 2 dogs. You should know -- First a dog has to pee a lot.

That would be something the dog owner needs to know and make proper provisions for, in fact everything the dog does is the owners responsibility. Private Property owners would have no need to know this since it has no bearing on anything.