Georgie, Georgie, Georgie !!!!

[Monkei]

well it appears that our Stand Your Ground Poster Boy is in trouble again with the law ... domestic abuse is not the correct path he should be taking! The ex wife should be happy that she did not get the jump on him. If she did Georgie would have the right to claim his life was in danger before he shot her.

[janmcn]

Only two months since he was acquitted, and he's already been pulled over for speeding twice and now this call about domestic abuse. It's surprising that his attorney is still taking his calls.

Deja Vu - Zimmerman said he was the victim. Police arrived with guns drawn.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

I am not convinced that she was telling the truth. It was just announced that "after talking to her attorney" she recanted her story and refused to press charges. Divorce and money can lead to fibs and exaggerations in order to get what you want. He would have to be insane to have done what she originally claimed, so I will wait for a full investigation. The police are talking to other witnesses and looking at the home security video tape so I would not jump to conclusions yet. She has been nailed for purgery/lying before.

[Monkei]

Unlike last time if anything really happened there will be definitive proof with security cams, etc. Zimmerman has not lead a quiet peaceful life since the trial.

[gomoho]

If this were any other resident in Florida it would not even be a blip on the radar screen. Wish the media and the rest of the world would leave this devasted family alone.

[capecodbob]

I am not convinced that she was telling the truth. It was just announced that "after talking to her attorney" she recanted her story and refused to press charges. Divorce and money can lead to fibs and exaggerations in order to get what you want. He would have to be insane to have done what she originally claimed, so I will wait for a full investigation. The police are talking to other witnesses and looking at the home security video tape so I would not jump to conclusions yet. She has been nailed for purgery/lying before.

Nice to see a post that's sensible. Some want to hang him with stories from a bias media and not wait till EVERYTHING is presented. How shameful.

Bob

[buggyone]

Yes, the Zimmermanns Are vieing to go head to head with Kanye and Kim, they will always remain Florida trailer park trash.

[billethkid]

so if one lives in a trailer park in FL they are trash?

How terribly, terribly disrespectful and rude to people toward a group of people you do not know because of the actions of an isolated incident.

Are the people who live in manufactured homes marginal trash? Or marginal village residents?

Wow! How fortunate we are to be part of the elite here in TV.

btk

[BobnBev]

well it appears that our Stand Your Ground Poster Boy is in trouble again with the law ... domestic abuse is not the correct path he should be taking! The ex wife should be happy that she did not get the jump on him. If she did Georgie would have the right to claim his life was in danger before he shot her.

Give it a break, Monkey. Geo. Zimmerman had NOTHING to do
with the Stand Your Ground law.

[BobnBev]

Unlike last time if anything really happened there will be definitive proof with security cams, etc. Zimmerman has not lead a quiet peaceful life since the trial. So what, neither have a lot of people.

[Teeitup]

Yes, the Zimmermanns Are vieing to go head to head with Kanye and Kim, they will always remain Florida trailer park trash.
I agree.

Zimmy's courtroom smirk, was a peek into his true nature in my opinion.

[buggyone]

so if one lives in a trailer park in FL they are trash?

How terribly, terribly disrespectful and rude to people toward a group of people you do not know because of the actions of an isolated incident.

Are the people who live in manufactured homes marginal trash? Or marginal village residents?

Wow! How fortunate we are to be part of the elite here in TV.

btk

Yes, the Zimmermanns are low life wannabe celebs. If you contributed to their welfare over the Internet, you got what you deserved.

I do not know about being elite living in The Villages, I do know I did not contribute money to a killer.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

Yes, the Zimmermanns are low life wannabe celebs. If you contributed to their welfare over the Internet, you got what you deserved.

I do not know about being elite living in The Villages, I do know I did not contribute money to a killer.

How are they trying to become celebrities? And what did people who supported them got what they deserved? And how is a man fully tried and aquitted still being called a killer? I deeply respect the justice system as it is the best thing we have, and I think your critism of them is not warranted at all. It is downright mean and totally unjustified, IMHO

[Monkei]

Nice to see a post that's sensible. Some want to hang him with stories from a bias media and not wait till EVERYTHING is presented. How shameful.

Bob

Yes the biased media made her place the 911 call. Ths guy is a train wreck we are all just waiting to see where the wreck happens.

[Monkei]

Give it a break, Monkey. Geo. Zimmerman had NOTHING to do
with the Stand Your Ground law.

It's monkei not monkey. You are right. No sense bringing up his stand your ground trial again, water under the bridge. We can just wait for the other shoe to drop. I do have to hand it to Georgie, I thought for sure he would be living life on the down low, he has proven me wrong. He is out there. Only a matter of time. He had better write the book quickly.

[buggyone]

How are they trying to become celebrities? And what did people who supported them got what they deserved? And how is a man fully tried and aquitted still being called a killer? I deeply respect the justice system as it is the best thing we have, and I think your critism of them is not warranted at all. It is downright mean and totally unjustified, IMHO

Yes, Georgie Zimmerman is a killer! There is no doubt he killed Trayvon Martin. That was NOT the issue of his trial!

Zimmie's wife, Shellie, called the cops on Zimmie saying he threatened her and her dad with a gun.

I am glad you think that Casey Anthony, OJ Simpson and Georgie Zimmerman were all NOT GUILTY of their killings.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

Yes, Georgie Zimmerman is a killer! There is no doubt he killed Trayvon Martin. Zimmie's wife, Shellie, called the cops on Zimmie saying he threatened her and her dad with a gun.

Shelley recanted and agreed not to press charges as soon as they said they were going to check the security footage and talked to her attorney's. And the word "killer" is too strong of a word for someone acquitted of murder. And the term "trailer trash" is ugly. I had to live in a trailer for months after Hurricane Andrew in Miami and after Katrina in New Orleans. I would greatly appreciate you respecting the feelings of people who have or must continue to live in trailers, as they are not all "trash".

[buggyone]

What word would you use for someone who has killed another person besides "killer"?

What word would you use to describe OJ or Casey? Innocent?

[SpicyCajunPugs]

What word would you use for someone who has killed another person besides "killer"?

What word would you use to describe OJ or Casey? Innocent?

"committed an act in self defense" and "not proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" just like our great justice system says.

[buggyone]

"committed an act in self defense" and "not proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" just like our great justice system says.


Ha ha ha ha

How many others feel like you regarding Casey Anthony? Thanks for the laugh. Good night!

[SpicyCajunPugs]

Ha ha ha ha

How many others feel like you regarding Casey Anthony? Thanks for the laugh. Good night!

Anyone that respects the legal and justice system, which mature Americans should do. I did not say I thought they were totally innocent, but it is the best system there is. I think many, many people feel the same way if they are intelligent and thoughtful.

[Monkei]

Yes we should stop picking on George Zimmerman and Casey Anthony, they are both innocent contributing members of society now. Both werebfound innocent by the Florida Justice System.

[Taltarzac725]

I am not convinced that she was telling the truth. It was just announced that "after talking to her attorney" she recanted her story and refused to press charges. Divorce and money can lead to fibs and exaggerations in order to get what you want. He would have to be insane to have done what she originally claimed, so I will wait for a full investigation. The police are talking to other witnesses and looking at the home security video tape so I would not jump to conclusions yet. She has been nailed for purgery/lying before.

Good to see someone taking an objective stance on this matter. Cannot say I like George Zimmerman at all and still believe he should never have gotten out of the car in the Trayvon Martin matter but let's wait until the evidence is out there. Lawyers on both sides twist things in their side's favor. That's our adversarial justice system at work.

I do not see him being insane though if he did what she claims. He is a hero to some people and he probably now has a huge chip on his shoulder. It sounds like he has become incredibly arrogant thinking he can get away with almost anything as he did shoot and kill an innocent man who was also defending himself from a man with a gun.

[redwitch]

The reality is that Zimmerman is a killer. He was found not guilty of murder by reason of self defense (the stand your ground law was never a factor in his trial). Regardless, he killed another human. That fact will never change and it would be nice if both sides would get their facts straight.

As to these allegations by his wife, they are just that -- allegations. Doesn't mean they didn't happen; just means that for whatever reason, the allegations were retracted. It also means that they may well have not happened or been grossly exaggerated. It is entirely possible we'll never know. Police have a tendency to not investigate once something has been denied and retracted -- they have enough on their plate without worrying about the he said/she said stuff.

Personally, I'm tired of hearing about him. I don't care that he's gotten pulled over for speeding. I don't care that he's getting a divorce. I don't care if he's living in a mansion or a trailer or is homeless. I'd care if he was hired as a police officer or killed another person. I'd care if he was killed. Otherwise, I wish the media would stop with all the non-news about him. There are much bigger and more important issues out there.

[rubicon]

What word would you use for someone who has killed another person besides "killer"?

What word would you use to describe OJ or Casey? Innocent?

What word would you use for someone who has killed another person besides, "killer" soldier, policeman, a citizen protecting his family and property.




I am not going to judge Zimmerman that was already accomplished by a jury of his peers. I am going to make an observation that because of societies cruel and unusual pronouncements, etc of Zimmerman guilt irrespective of the trial Zimmerman and his family are at their breaking point. How do you suppose you would react if the media made fodder of you and your family 24/7? I mean how much longer are they going to feast on this guy's bones?

A civil society would have slammed such tactics rather than edge it on. What are we becoming????????????????????????????

I agree with btk concerning the remarks about people who decide to live in trailers. the nature and orgins of such remarks is why men will never be able to co-exist in peace. its why we have wars, It is why we have discrimination and it is why we have those who consider themselves to be "the elite" The Ï am better than you syndrome" has always and will always exist within human beings

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Latest reports are saying that his wife is recanting her story. I wonder if she'll be charged with making a false 911 report?
Zimmerman is going to have this problem for the rest of his life. Anytime he gets into an argument the other party can call the police and say that he had his hand on his holster and it will be all over the news.

[dillywho]

The reality is that Zimmerman is a killer. He was found not guilty of murder by reason of self defense (the stand your ground law was never a factor in his trial). Regardless, he killed another human. That fact will never change and it would be nice if both sides would get their facts straight.

As to these allegations by his wife, they are just that -- allegations. Doesn't mean they didn't happen; just means that for whatever reason, the allegations were retracted. It also means that they may well have not happened or been grossly exaggerated. It is entirely possible we'll never know. Police have a tendency to not investigate once something has been denied and retracted -- they have enough on their plate without worrying about the he said/she said stuff.

Personally, I'm tired of hearing about him. I don't care that he's gotten pulled over for speeding. I don't care that he's getting a divorce. I don't care if he's living in a mansion or a trailer or is homeless. I'd care if he was hired as a police officer or killed another person. I'd care if he was killed. Otherwise, I wish the media would stop with all the non-news about him. There are much bigger and more important issues out there.

Excellent post. Maybe things won't get so inflammatory when the media quits sensationalizing and goes back to actual, factual reporting. Unfortunately, it's all about the almighty dollar.

People have had messy divorces forever. People have been rightly and wrongly convicted/acquitted forever. These things will continue to go on. Opinions will continue to go on. At least, we still have a great country for all of it. Until the media has another something to sensationalize, this will continue to be "news". Any one of us can always change the channel, put down the newspaper, read a book, take a walk, or whatever. We do have choices.

[Monkei]

Latest reports are saying that his wife is recanting her story. I wonder if she'll be charged with making a false 911 report?
Zimmerman is going to have this problem for the rest of his life. Anytime he gets into an argument the other party can call the police and say that he had his hand on his holster and it will be all over the news.

I did not see that she recanted but the she was not pressing charges. Someone hit the old man in the nose and someone broke the iPad. Like most things zimmerman related we will never really know.

[Monkei]

Excellent post. Maybe things won't get so inflammatory when the media quits sensationalizing and goes back to actual, factual reporting. Unfortunately, it's all about the almighty dollar.

People have had messy divorces forever. People have been rightly and wrongly convicted/acquitted forever. These things will continue to go on. Opinions will continue to go on. At least, we still have a great country for all of it. Until the media has another something to sensationalize, this will continue to be "news". Any one of us can always change the channel, put down the newspaper, read a book, take a walk, or whatever. We do have choices.

I agree but most people who are getting divorced don't punch on and man in the nose and grab and break iPads. But we will never know if its true.

[gomoho]

I did not see that she recanted but the she was not pressing charges. Someone hit the old man in the nose and someone broke the iPad. Like most things zimmerman related we will never really know.

Yep, both Shelli and her father now say they didn't see a gun. This is such a sad, sad story I think they all need psychiatric help.

[Monkei]

Yep, both Shelli and her father now say they didn't see a gun. This is such a sad, sad story I think they all need psychiatric help.

Yet, zimmermans attorney said in an interview this morning that he indeed ave the gun. At lest she did not jump him.

[kbace6]

It seems many, both in the media and on this very forum, can't wait to see this guy burn without waiting for all the facts to come out.

I'm still waiting to see how all this comes out before I come to my own conclusions.

Lake Mary Police are now calling into question several statements Shellie Zimmerman made to 911 (http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police-are-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made-to-911?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell)

[quirky3]

Looks like Mark O'Mara has declined to take on any new legal matters for Zimmerman
Attorney Mark O'Mara drops George Zimmerman - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/10/justice/zimmerman-lawyer/)

[Monkei]

Looks like Mark O'Mara has declined to take on any new legal matters for Zimmerman
Attorney Mark O'Mara drops George Zimmerman - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/10/justice/zimmerman-lawyer/)

I think that was a good healthy financial move for attorney Omara.

[jannd228]

so if one lives in a trailer park in FL they are trash?

How terribly, terribly disrespectful and rude to people toward a group of people you do not know because of the actions of an isolated incident.

Are the people who live in manufactured homes marginal trash? Or marginal village residents?

Wow! How fortunate we are to be part of the elite here in TV.

btk

thank you for your sensitivity

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

[graciegirl]

I think that was a good healthy financial move for attorney Omara.

If I were Mark O'Mara I would run away from all this mess.

If I were George Zimmerman I would run away from all this mess.

If I were Shellie Zimmerman I would run away from all this mess.

You are all embarrassing yourselves.

Leave well enough alone. Or as I said earlier, sit down and be quiet.

You are all making matters worse.

They may all have an addiction to attention.

Get a paying job and work. Hush. shhh. shut up. Stop it. Not another word.

[kbace6]

If I were Mark O'Mara I would run away from all this mess.

If I were George Zimmerman I would run away from all this mess.

If I were Shellie Zimmerman I would run away from all this mess.

You are all embarrassing yourselves.

Leave well enough alone. Or as I said earlier, sit down and be quiet.

You are all making matters worse.

They may all have an addiction to attention.

Get a paying job and work. Hush. shhh. shut up. Stop it. Not another word.

:agree:

[buggyone]

I would not be at all suprised to hear that Zimmie and his entire dysfunctional family are not offered a reality television show like Snooki, Kim, and Hulk.

It could be called Taking Aim with The Zimmermans.

[graciegirl]

I would not be at all suprised to hear that Zimmie and his entire dysfunctional family are not offered a reality television show like Snooki, Kim, and Hulk.

It could be called Taking Aim with The Zimmermans.

Buggy. That is not a good idea.

[Monkei]

I would not be at all suprised to hear that Zimmie and his entire dysfunctional family are not offered a reality television show like Snooki, Kim, and Hulk.

It could be called Taking Aim with The Zimmermans.

It sounds really good. They can invite Tot Mom to do various cameos with those wild and wacky Zimmermans.

[buggyone]

It sounds really good. They can invite Tot Mom to do various cameos with those wild and wacky Zimmermans.


I have no idea of who Tot Mom is. However, I can name all the actors on Gunsmoke!

[Monkei]

I have no idea of who Tot Mom is. However, I can name all the actors on Gunsmoke!

I think almost everyone knows who Tot Mom is or will quickly remember once reminded.

[BobnBev]

I think almost everyone knows who Tot Mom is or will quickly remember once reminded.


So remind us.

[redwitch]

I assume they mean the young "lady" called Octopus Mom -- the one who had all the kids and wants more while living on financial assistance. Kind of nice to see that many have forgotten her and her time in the spotlight.

[graciegirl]

I assume they mean the young "lady" called Octopus Mom -- the one who had all the kids and wants more while living on financial assistance. Kind of nice to see that many have forgotten her and her time in the spotlight.


RED...It's octomom. Not octopus, you silly.

Eight kids at one time. Poor little things.

Wait until you see Harry. He has gained weight. Thanks to DR.DEE.

[redwitch]

Well, I was close rofl. Remembered the octomom later but I'm happy to forget as much about her as possible. Georgie I might never forget -- no matter what a 17YO boy is dead because of his choices and actions.

And yeah on Harry!!!! (For those who don't know, Harry is one of Gracie's two or three kitties [depending on who you ask hehe].)

[buggyone]

Did you know that a female Giant Pacific Octopus will reproduce only one time in her life? She lays about 20,000 eggs, guards them until they hatch, and then will die.

Just a bit of trivia from my volunteer work at The National Zoo in Washington, DC.

[Monkei]

Tot mom was the name nancy grace laid on Casey Anthony.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

Hasn't this thread gotten way off the topic of George Zimmerman? It is getting a little silly. The jurys have spoken on all the issues. If you disagree with the current legal system, please lobby for changes, but right now it is the best thing we have. It may allow some low lifes to get off scott free, but it usually prevents an innocent person from getting wrongfully convicted, which is why it is such a great system.

[Monkei]

Hasn't this thread gotten way off the topic of George Zimmerman? It is getting a little silly. The jurys have spoken on all the issues. If you disagree with the current legal system, please lobby for changes, but right now it is the best thing we have. It may allow some low lifes to get off scott free, but it usually prevents an innocent person from getting wrongfully convicted, which is why it is such a great system.

I totally agree.

[dotti105]

George Zimmerman was looking for a fight the night that Trayvon Martin was shot. No one except Zimmerman is alive who truly knows how that incident went down. Very horrific and totally avoidable if he had done AS THE POLICE ASKED and stayed in his car.

I feel that what we are seeing now, is the true Zimmerman. He is an adolescent mind trapped in an adult body, feeling powerful that he got away with killing that teen, and that the law does not apply to him. Several speeding stops in multiple states, threatening his wife. Seriously were any of you actually surprised??

Zimmerman is in the same "not guilty" class as Casey Anthony and OJ. He is just not smart enough to live a low profile life, we will hear more, and none of it will be good.

He will never be citizen of the year. He is certainly not a poster child for the "stand your ground" law or the right to bear arms. He has made a mockery out of both.

I am just thankful that none of our grandchildren were taking that sidewalk in the rain on their way home that day. And I pray that he can find the self control and self esteem to stop bullying and breaking the law on a regular basis. I truly thought the gravity of the killing would have brought him to his senses, But it has only served to empower him. Very sad and very frightening.

[Golfingnut]

Go Buggy. It would be easy to debate a point with one or two, but when you are attacked from five sides, it becomes difficult. Zimmerman got away with homicide clear and simple.

[Monkei]

He got away with it that is for sure but any law that allows you to kill someone because you asked for and then are getting your ass kicked needs to be examined by the legislature. The criminal justice system was trapped by a crappy piece of legislation.

It's Sanford, not Dodge City.

[buggyone]

I wonder what would happen if a 21 year old AfricanAmerican youth with droopy pants and gold grillz (with a CCP) was accosted by two 72 year old drunk guys in The Villages at 10pm. They told him they were going to beat him up. The two men got in a couple of drunk punches on the youth. The youth pulled his legal pistol and shot them dead. No witnesses.

How long would it take for that youth to arrested in Sumter County? Would the trial outcome be the same as for Zimmerman?

Just asking.

[janmcn]

In an email today, the police chief of George Zimmerman's town said that Zimmerman is another "Sandy Hook" waiting to happen.

Unfortunately, there's nothing anybody can do about it. If Zimmerman were ever convicted of a felony, he would lose his right to carry a gun in Florida, but he could probably find another state that does not have that restriction.

[billethkid]

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Patty55]

They all seem to be enjoying this way too much. The wife didn't seem afraid to me while she was skipping around with her ipad. Now a computer forensics team is going to take the thing apart?

Do these people work? It looked like a pretty nice house, do they work?

[buggyone]

They all seem to be enjoying this way too much. The wife didn't seem afraid to me while she was skipping around with her ipad. Now a computer forensics team is going to take the thing apart?

Do these people work? It looked like a pretty nice house, do they work?

Do these people work? I have no idea of what Zimmie or his family did prior to his killing episode, but since then they have been living pretty high off the contributions of his supporters on his websites.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

The Home shown on the news was Shellie Zimmerman's PARENT'S house, not George or Shellie's....George was a investigator for a mortgage forclosure investigation/fraud company, and Shellie was going to Nursing School. George's father was a former magistrate and respected businessman. His mother was born and raised in Peru and met her husband, george's father, through George's uncle, who was in the military in Peru... Shellie's parents have not wanted to get involved in this mess for obvious reasons and it really isn't anyone's business about what they do for a living or why their house is nice. They were nice enough to let them live there during a very trying time and now we are questioning their motives and whether they are working or low lives....What is wrong with this picture? If all of you didn't know this, then you should not be commenting on their "trailer trash" status as some have rudely described them as..WOW

[Patty55]

The Home shown on the news was Shellie Zimmerman's PARENT'S house, not George or Shellie's....George was a investigator for a mortgage forclosure investigation/fraud company, and Shellie was going to Nursing School. George's father was a former magistrate and respected businessman. His mother was born and raised in Peru and met her husband, george's father, through George's uncle, who was in the military in Peru... Shellie's parents have not wanted to get involved in this mess for obvious reasons and it really isn't anyone's business about what they do for a living or why their house is nice. They were nice enough to let them live there during a very trying time and now we are questioning their motives and whether they are working or low lives....What is wrong with this picture? If all of you didn't know this, then you should not be commenting on their "trailer trash" status as some have rudely described them as..WOW

Thank you for answering my question (Do they work?), a simple "NO" would have sufficed.

[Madelaine Amee]

Thank you for answering my question (Do they work?), a simple "NO" would have sufficed.

:clap2: You're good Patty!

[senior citizen]

The Home shown on the news was Shellie Zimmerman's PARENT'S house, not George or Shellie's....George was a investigator for a mortgage forclosure investigation/fraud company, and Shellie was going to Nursing School. George's father was a former magistrate and respected businessman. His mother was born and raised in Peru and met her husband, george's father, through George's uncle, who was in the military in Peru... Shellie's parents have not wanted to get involved in this mess for obvious reasons and it really isn't anyone's business about what they do for a living or why their house is nice. They were nice enough to let them live there during a very trying time and now we are questioning their motives and whether they are working or low lives....What is wrong with this picture? If all of you didn't know this, then you should not be commenting on their "trailer trash" status as some have rudely described them as..WOW


Thank you for your intelligent response.

People shouldn't jump to conclusions about why someone lives in a nice home and from whence their money comes .

Good post.

[LndLocked]

Apparently what Georgie boy "works" at currently is living big off donations to his "defense fund" .... while stiffing his lawyer's bill ... you know, what money to a "defense fund" is suppose to pay. His FIL's house might not be trash ... but Georgie is.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/11/george-zimmerman-scam/

[SpicyCajunPugs]

Thank you for your intelligent response.

People shouldn't jump to conclusions about why someone lives in a nice home and from whence their money comes .

Good post.

Thank you so much...I also agree that too many people come to conclusions about people without having the real information. People are publicly judging these individuals without knowing much of anything about them. And the "trailer trash" comments are obscene and rude. Myself and many of my friends and family have had to live in trailers after hurricanes for extended periods of time, and in this economy many families have no other choice. Respect for those not as fortunate as you should always be shown.

[buggyone]

"George was a investigator for a mortgage forclosure investigation/fraud company."

Well, why has he not gone back to work since being proclaimed Not Guilty? If the majority of Americans respect the judicial outcome of his trial, he should have no problem in working.

BTW, "trailer trash" does not mean residents of trailers are trash. It speaks to the lifestyle and not the abode. Look it up in the urban dictionary if you have doubts.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

"George was a investigator for a mortgage forclosure investigation/fraud company."

Well, why has he not gone back to work since being proclaimed Not Guilty? If the majority of Americans respect the judicial outcome of his trial, he should have no problem in working.

I think the answer is obvious...he is deathly afraid of death and dying by the hands of those who still think he is a murderer. I doubt he will ever be able to work out in public.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

Dang, he should have thought of that BEFORE getting out of his car AGAINST the advice of the police and CONFRONTING Trayvon Martin.:shrug:

Just a small correction: it was a 911 operator, not the police, and there was absolutely no evidence that he confronted Trayvon or did not return to his car as it was suggested by the operator. Let's stick to the real and proven facts for a reasonable discussion.

[graciegirl]

Sit down George.

You are losing support

and credibility.


Local police chief has 'concerns' about Zimmerman - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/13/20478031-local-police-chief-has-concerns-about-zimmerman?lite)

This is the reason my family told their offspring if you get in trouble, it is your own damned fault. Don't court trouble, don't dance with trouble and don't dress like trouble and don't act like you are looking for trouble.

None of the original mess would have happened if either set of parents had been able to make that point with either party.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

Sit down George.

You are losing support

and credibility.


Local police chief has 'concerns' about Zimmerman - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/13/20478031-local-police-chief-has-concerns-about-zimmerman?lite)

This is the reason my family told their offspring if you get in trouble, it is your own damned fault. Don't court trouble, don't dance with trouble and don't dress like trouble and don't act like you are looking for trouble.

None of the original mess would have happened if either set of parents had been able to make that point with either party.

I agree with you, except I would like to add one caveat: none of it would have also happened if there were not so many crimes being committed that make us so fearful for our lives and property.

[Patty55]

I think the answer is obvious...he is deathly afraid of death and dying by the hands of those who still think he is a murderer. I doubt he will ever be able to work out in public.

HUH? He is out and about. Speeding in TX, speeding in FL, fighting with the bride.

You seem to have some sort of a personal connection to these people. Query me this, has George or his wife ever had a REAL JOB. You've already established that both sets of parents are productive workers, how about these two.

[graciegirl]

HUH? He is out and about. Speeding in TX, speeding in FL, fighting with the bride.

You seem to have some sort of a personal connection to these people. Query me this, has George or his wife ever had a REAL JOB. You've already established that both sets of parents are productive workers, how about these two.

Most um...other people don't have jobs anymore Patty and it isn't politically correct to talk about it.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

HUH? He is out and about. Speeding in TX, speeding in FL, fighting with the bride.

You seem to have some sort of a personal connection to these people. Query me this, has George or his wife ever had a REAL JOB. You've already established that both sets of parents are productive workers, how about these two.

I'm confused. I did answer it in post 59 and you responded in post 60. I have no personal connection, but I follwed and researched the case and trial extensively because of I am a paralegal who once attended law school and I was very curious how the case would turn out. Let me make it clear that I never have said George, O.J., or Casey were innocent, I just said that our jury system determined the State didn't prove their guilt. That is our justice system. I for one think their are many scumbags who get off unfairly, but because there are very few people who are convicted that are innocent (especially with DNA proof), I still think it is a great system. I would just want to die if a loved one of mine was unfairly convicted of a crime he didn't commit because people didn't like him or tried to frame him with only circumstantial evidence. How would you all feel about that?

[Patty55]

I'm confused. I did answer it in post 59 and you responded in post 60. I have no personal connection, but I follwed and researched the case and trial extensively because of I am a paralegal who once attended law school and I was very curious how the case would turn out. Let me make it clear that I never have said George, O.J., or Casey were innocent, I just said that our jury system determined the State didn't prove their guilt. That is our justice system. I for one think their are many scumbags who get off unfairly, but because there are very few people who are convicted that are innocent (especially with DNA proof), I still think it is a great system. I would just want to die if a loved one of mine was unfairly convicted of a crime he didn't commit because people didn't like him or tried to frame him with only circumstantial evidence. How would you all feel about that?

MAN, why do they always backpaddle? I guess the answer is NO JOB.

I'm sure that as a paralegal you are aware that the courts do not judge anyone "innocent" and that innocent is not the same as "not guilty", but that is not the issue here. My question was "Do they work? Have they ever?" Thank you for your roundabout answer.

[Barefoot]

"trailer trash" does not mean residents of trailers are trash. It speaks to the lifestyle and not the abode. Look it up in the urban dictionary if you have doubts.

Buggy, I usually like your way of thinking and enjoy your posts. But ... of course you know there are many fine people who live in trailers and have impeccable lifestyles. It's an ugly expression that shouldn't be defended.

And now back to the Zimmerman Saga.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

I still don't understand your responses as I did answer and I will copy and post that section from post 59: "George was a investigator for a mortgage forclosure investigation/fraud company, and Shellie was going to Nursing School.". I consider that honorable work and education, not a "NO JOB". There is nothing roundabout about my answer in post 59, and I will once again say that I never said they were innocent, just not proven guilty. Can I respectfully ask you what your point is with your statements and questions?

[Patty55]

I still don't understand your responses as I did answer and I will copy and post that section from post 59: "George was a investigator for a mortgage forclosure investigation/fraud company, and Shellie was going to Nursing School.". I consider that honorable work and education, not a "NO JOB". There is nothing roundabout about my answer in post 59, and I will once again say that I never said they were innocent, just not proven guilty. Can I respectfully ask you what your point is with your statements and questions?

The wife is 26 and was going to nursing school=NO JOB.
George was an investigator....=NO JOB, not a real one anyway.

IMO, these two are BUNKIES with too much time on their hands. Thank God they didn't breed.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

The wife is 26 and was going to nursing school=NO JOB.
George was an investigator....=NO JOB, not a real one anyway.

IMO, these two are BUNKIES with too much time on their hands. Thank God they didn't breed.

Wow, Oh Wow....I am speechless, maybe for the first time in my life!!!

[Carl in Tampa]

What word would you use for someone who has killed another person besides "killer"?


In my mind the unmodified term "killer" is a pejorative term. Perhaps someone with a less nuanced vocabulary would see it differently.

I would not apply the term to anyone who killed someone if that person was justified in the killing by virtue of doing so in the line of duty, such as law enforcement officers or military personnel.

The same would apply to someone cleared by a trial of criminal charges related to a homicide.

On a related subject, Zimmerman did not use the Stand Your Ground law as a defense at his trial. I believe the judge made reference to it in the jury instructions. If so, it would be because the judge thought it contributed to the elements of the case.


As a retired law enforcement officer, having served at both the local and federal levels, with an aggregate of almost forty years of experience, I support the law. "Shall issue" concealed weapons laws and the stand your ground laws have contributed to a safer public.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

In my mind the unmodified term "killer" is a pejorative term. Perhaps someone with a less nuanced vocabulary would see it differently.

I would not apply the term to anyone who killed someone if that person was justified in the killing by virtue of doing so in the line of duty, such as law enforcement officers or military personnel.

The same would apply to someone cleared by a trial of criminal charges related to a homicide.

On a related subject, Zimmerman did not use the Stand Your Ground law as a defense at his trial. I believe the judge made reference to it in the jury instructions. If so, it would be because the judge thought it contributed to the elements of the case.


As a retired law enforcement officer, having served at both the local and federal levels, with an aggregate of almost forty years of experience, I support the law. "Shall issue" concealed weapons laws and the stand your ground laws have contributed to a safer public.

Very astute, fair and educated statements. Thanks for the help in educating people about the reality of the legal system, no matter how hard it is to swallow

[buggyone]

In my mind the unmodified term "killer" is a pejorative term. Perhaps someone with a less nuanced vocabulary would see it differently.

I would not apply the term to anyone who killed someone if that person was justified in the killing by virtue of doing so in the line of duty, such as law enforcement officers or military personnel.

The same would apply to someone cleared by a trial of criminal charges related to a homicide.

On a related subject, Zimmerman did not use the Stand Your Ground law as a defense at his trial. I believe the judge made reference to it in the jury instructions. If so, it would be because the judge thought it contributed to the elements of the case.


As a retired law enforcement officer, having served at both the local and federal levels, with an aggregate of almost forty years of experience, I support the law. "Shall issue" concealed weapons laws and the stand your ground laws have contributed to a safer public.

This entire thing about Zimmie being not guilty or getting away with a killing is over. The jury found him not guilty - just like Casey Anthony - and therefore should be dropped. If Zimmie does stupid things now, he just going to end up owing Shellie a ton of money in divorce.

No more from me on this subject.

[janmcn]

This entire thing about Zimmie being not guilty or getting away with a killing is over. The jury found him not guilty - just like Casey Anthony - and therefore should be dropped. If Zimmie does stupid things now, he just going to end up owing Shellie a ton of money in divorce.

No more from me on this subject.


But don't forget, George Zimmerman is still being investigated by the Justice Department for a hate crime. They seized all the evidence from the trial, including Zimmerman's gun, as soon as he was acquitted. They are probably looking at every word he ever uttered to see if Trayvon Martin's civil rights were violated under the hate crimes law that President Obama signed in 2010.

[BobnBev]

"Jumping to Conclusions" is truly an Olympic sport here on TOTV.

[billethkid]

"Jumping to Conclusions" is truly an Olympic sport here on TOTV.

with many many gold meadalists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btk

[Taltarzac725]

MAN, why do they always backpaddle? I guess the answer is NO JOB.

I'm sure that as a paralegal you are aware that the courts do not judge anyone "innocent" and that innocent is not the same as "not guilty", but that is not the issue here. My question was "Do they work? Have they ever?" Thank you for your roundabout answer.

I really do not see a connection between murder and having no jobs. The statistics do not seem to back this up either. Does Unemployment Presage Crime? - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123974939828118493.html)

And as to jobs, I got into about 12 Marquis Who's Who publications from 1992 through 2002 (and nominated for 24)--like Marquis Who's Who in the World, 12th Ed, 1995 (page 622)-- because of all the free time I had because of a blackball placed on me by very powerful people for fighting for better access to practical information for survivors of crimes. I had wanted to be honest about a niche in services for survivors of crimes in law libraries in the United States and basically got laughed out of the law librarianship profession. Being unemployed does not quickly translate as not being useful to other people as I have done wonders with my free time as I am sure many other people who have had the misfortune of not working have done. George Zimmerman was a doing a worthwhile job as neighborhood watch coordinator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin , he just did a very poor job of it when he went after Trayvon Martin without waiting for the police. He could have kept an eye on Martin from his car to see if he was up to no good and instead forced a very bad situation. He did murder Martin, weather or not it was justified homicide or not probably will never be known for certain except by George Zimmerman and God.

George Zimmerman was working as an insurance underwriter when the Trayvon Martin shooting happened and probably now would have a very hard time in getting any type of job because of his notoriety. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425 Not sure what jobs Zimmerman's wife held but she is a licensed cosmologist.

From Reuters article:In 2007 he married Shellie Dean, a licensed cosmetologist, and in 2009 the couple rented a townhouse in the Retreat at Twin Lakes. Zimmerman had bounced from job to job for a couple of years, working at a car dealership and a mortgage company. At times, according to testimony from Shellie at a bond hearing for Zimmerman last week, the couple filed for unemployment benefits.

Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College in 2009, and in December 2011 he was permitted to participate in a school graduation ceremony, despite being a course credit shy of his associate's degree in criminal justice. Zimmerman was completing that course credit when the shooting occurred.

[Patty55]

My comments had nothing to do with the killing of TM (remember there was no murder). I thought we were discussing the recent fiasco, the one with the bride prancing around with her ipad and George once again (IMO)acting the fool. Once again, nobody can get their story straight, LE is spending money to take the ipad apart and forensically see who the liar is. These two have way too much time on their hands.

Does unemployment effect the murder rate? IDK, I guess it would depend on your line of work, maybe if you were a hitman.

[buggyone]

"Jumping to Conclusions" is truly an Olympic sport here on TOTV.

with many many gold meadalists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btk

_____________________

...and so is spelling! :loco:

[Taltarzac725]

My comments had nothing to do with the killing of TM (remember there was no murder). I thought we were discussing the recent fiasco, the one with the bride prancing around with her ipad and George once again (IMO)acting the fool. Once again, nobody can get their story straight, LE is spending money to take the ipad apart and forensically see who the liar is. These two have way too much time on their hands.

Does unemployment effect the murder rate? IDK, I guess it would depend on your line of work, maybe if you were a hitman.

Well, maybe you are right about that one. Believe that many women who have had problems with their husbands with respect to physical and/or emotional abuse often recant their stories because of the love they feel for their husbands. The state often has to force them to act against their spouses. A penpal of mine over the past 10 years or so wrote a good book about this. She managed to eventually get away. http://www.amazon.com/Totally-Discombobulated-Evelyn-Fort-Stewart/dp/0755200594

http://books.google.com/books?id=FonSG8dnUxkC&pg=PR3&lpg=PR3&dq=totally+discombobulated&source=bl&ots=5xTHFHaSbZ&sig=oLN5_Qkdjj4sxE-ZlWJGYLmUN94&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BYI0UqjwEYrY8gSw2YDIBQ&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=totally%20discombobulated&f=false

[DougB]

My comments had nothing to do with the killing of TM (remember there was no murder). I thought we were discussing the recent fiasco, the one with the bride prancing around with her ipad and George once again (IMO)acting the fool. Once again, nobody can get their story straight, LE is spending money to take the ipad apart and forensically see who the liar is. These two have way too much time on their hands.

Does unemployment effect the murder rate? IDK, I guess it would depend on your line of work, maybe if you were a hitman.

Over 2700 views and 88 posts on these clowns, I would wager to say we all have too much times on our hands.

[billethkid]

knot me!

[quirky3]

"Bad spellers of the world....untie!!"

[Carl in Tampa]

"Bad spellers of the world....untie!!"

Can't beet that!