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springfield
09-17-2013, 04:32 AM
We just got an email from our HOA person that yesterday, there was a break in in Tall Trees. According to him, someone left their garage door open to dry off their car after getting love bugs off. A car pulled up, a woman jumped out, and stole some golf clubs. They got a description of the woman and the car but they got away. I guess I will have to be more careful about leaving our garage door open.
nyclicker
09-17-2013, 05:25 AM
Another crime of opportunity. I don't understand why people leave there garage door up, it's an entrance to your house.
Barefoot
09-17-2013, 05:35 AM
We just got an email from our HOA person that yesterday, there was a break in in Tall Trees. According to him, someone left their garage door open to dry off their car after getting love bugs off. A car pulled up, a woman jumped out, and stole some golf clubs. They got a description of the woman and the car but they got away. I guess I will have to be more careful about leaving our garage door open.
That sounds weird. If a woman wanted to steal golf clubs, why wouldn't she just go to any parking lot where there are usually many golf carts with clubs? Of course leaving garage doors open isn't wise. But don't let one little story become more than it is.
graciegirl
09-17-2013, 06:10 AM
That sounds weird. If a woman wanted to steal golf clubs, why wouldn't she just go to any parking lot where there are usually many golf carts with clubs. Maybe the stealer woman was a friend of the owner, just borrowing the clubs, and the owner forgot she told her friend to pop by and grab the clubs any time.
I'm being silly, and of course leaving garage doors open isn't wise. But don't let one little story become more than it is.
I have to agree with Bare.
That is not questioning the OP's character, she is a very dependable person. It just is from time to time emails circulate that repeat OLD information.
There WAS reported here last year an incident that involved a golf cart taken from someone's garage in early dawn. The owner had opened the door to get the paper from the driveway and forgot to close it. The cart had it's keys and it disappeared. It was found somewhere close on campus with everything still intact very quickly, as I recall. Pooh told us about this as it was near her in Mallory. I suspected visiting um...kids and got really beat on for that.
I am very careful of my clubs and have a locking device on them that can be purchased at any of the country club stores around town. When we lunch we try to park in back of the country clubs.
With all of the expensive golf clubs in peoples carts parked outside restaurants you would think there would be more thefts. You do hear of clubs falling off golf carts and being found and returned. There was some thefts about three years ago of golf carts. The son of a villager was arrested for those. We also had a meth lab discovered in the attic of a garage in TV. A widowed woman had been befriended by a young couple and she had allowed them to move in with her. Their pictures were in the paper. Very bad looking folks.
I did NOT mean to diminish the OP. The OP is a responsible poster and a very valid and dependable and helpful person.. Emails and rumors are part and parcel of life here and many of us try very hard to keep things straight.
Sigh. Please...don't send me nasty PM's. I don't work for the developer.
We will hear more about this with more details from others I am sure and we can decide to worry or not to worry.
Springfield, What is an HOA person? We have a VHA rep in our village. I hope I didn't diminish your attempt to protect us.
57ChevyFI
09-17-2013, 07:21 AM
It's a larceny or stealing, not a robbery. A set of golf clubs can not be robbed. A person would have had to have been holding the golf clubs or near the golf clubs and they were taken by force threat or intimidation to be a robbery. Not trying to be a pain, just trying to help people get the term right.
graciegirl
09-17-2013, 07:31 AM
It's a larceny or stealing, not a robbery. A set of golf clubs can not be robbed. A person would have had to have been holding the golf clubs or near the golf clubs and they were taken by force threat or intimidation to be a robbery. Not trying to be a pain, just trying to help people get the term right.
Thanks, but stealing is stealing. As in Thou shalt not....
NOT much going on around here.
smcgirl
09-17-2013, 07:31 AM
I hope there is not a test on terms. Once again I am having to much fun to be too smart. That is a CRAZY story..and there does seem to be more than meets the eye??
Bonny
09-17-2013, 07:31 AM
We just got an email from our HOA person that yesterday, there was a break in in Tall Trees. According to him, someone left their garage door open to dry off their car after getting love bugs off. A car pulled up, a woman jumped out, and stole some golf clubs. They got a description of the woman and the car but they got away. I guess I will have to be more careful about leaving our garage door open.
I heard the exact same thing last week only it happened in Hadley. Also heard it a few times last year. What is an HOA person ?
jane032657
09-17-2013, 07:39 AM
We got the same email from our VHA Rep and I totally believe it happened. We have had people experience theft in our Village while their garage is open. Someone actually picked up a new set of Callaway's who was cruising on garbage day while the person was waiting to be picked up in his driveway and went inside for a second to get something-one of the people jumped out of the truck, picked up the golf clubs and started driving away. They chased the truck and got them back. Someone else had the GPS stolen out of her car; someone else something else.... I think there are "cruisers" who go through villages looking for opportunity. Of course you need to lock your car, close your garage door, etc...but there is also "life"-you wash your car, go in the house to get a drink of water and then are going to come right back out-normal stuff where you are in and out of the house to do chores. Realistically you are not putting your garage door up and down all the time when you are working outside. People are people and we are not an exclusive community that is crime free.
graciegirl
09-17-2013, 07:45 AM
We got the same email from our VHA Rep and I totally believe it happened. We have had people experience theft in our Village while their garage is open. Someone actually picked up a new set of Callaway's who was cruising on garbage day while the person was waiting to be picked up in his driveway and went inside for a second to get something-one of the people jumped out of the truck, picked up the golf clubs and started driving away. They chased the truck and got them back. Someone else had the GPS stolen out of her car; someone else something else.... I think there are "cruisers" who go through villages looking for opportunity. Of course you need to lock your car, close your garage door, etc...but there is also "life"-you wash your car, go in the house to get a drink of water and then are going to come right back out-normal stuff where you are in and out of the house to do chores. Realistically you are not putting your garage door up and down all the time when you are working outside. People are people and we are not an exclusive community that is crime free.
You live in Mission Hills and the OP lives in Tall Trees. Not to say it didn't happen, but whose VHA person, yours or theirs?
My point is that emails such as this circle and circle. Also someone is out having a few drinks and hears a story from someone they don't know and it troubles them and they repeat it.
Or people are sipping on water after their workout together and hear a story from someone who heard it from their VHA person.
I am not trying to say not to be careful, just not to worry a lot. AND JANE, I know you to be a very dependable poster and know you are reporting what happened accurately and exactly.
We bring with us the same level of caution needed at the place we left. That may need to be slightly adjusted, up or down. But it never hurts to be careful and safe.
Anything left at the curb will be taken and people do drive around on trash days looking for thrown out wondrous junque.
jane032657
09-17-2013, 07:53 AM
Hi All,
This was sent to me today for information. I send it out as a reminder that even though we live in probably the safest place in the state of Florida, we need to be vigilant and neighbors need to look out for each other.
Robbery in Tall Trees
(TOOK NAME OF VICTIMS OUT) asked me to notify everyone about a robbery at their home on Welcome Way TODAY Monday 9/16 about 1pm. (Couple) were home at the time.
Husband had just washed the love-bugs off his car and had left the garage door open to allow his car to dry. One of the neighbors witnessed a car stopping at their house with a guy and three girls. One of the girls jumped out of the car ...ran into their garage and came out with a set of golf clubs. The neighbor yelled at the girl and the crooks took off. They notified the policed immediately and the police responded within 2 minutes but the thieves had already gotten away. They do have a description of the car and the girl. Best lesson
NEVER LEAVE YOUR GARAGE DOOR OPEN.
senior citizen
09-17-2013, 08:14 AM
Another crime of opportunity. I don't understand why people leave there garage door up, it's an entrance to your house.
On the opposite side of the coin....I don't understand why someone would invade someone's "space" and steal their personal possessions?
I realize in TV it is advised NOT to leave your garage doors up, but it's not the home owner who is truly at fault.......it is the thief. In my humble opinion anyway..........
My husband always leaves his garage doors open up here and I'm beginning to remind him that it's that time of year when the field mice like to sneak in.........especially since it was below freezing in the 30's this morning.
I hope this is an isolated incident as far as having to worrying about robbery within the garage.
senior citizen
09-17-2013, 08:19 AM
We got the same email from our VHA Rep and I totally believe it happened. We have had people experience theft in our Village while their garage is open. Someone actually picked up a new set of Callaway's who was cruising on garbage day while the person was waiting to be picked up in his driveway and went inside for a second to get something-one of the people jumped out of the truck, picked up the golf clubs and started driving away. They chased the truck and got them back. Someone else had the GPS stolen out of her car; someone else something else.... I think there are "cruisers" who go through villages looking for opportunity. Of course you need to lock your car, close your garage door, etc...but there is also "life"-you wash your car, go in the house to get a drink of water and then are going to come right back out-normal stuff where you are in and out of the house to do chores. Realistically you are not putting your garage door up and down all the time when you are working outside. People are people and we are not an exclusive community that is crime free.
I guess we would indeed always have to keep the garage doors down and locked..........I know you would not exaggerate a happening.....
Well, better safe than sorry...........times are changing, for sure.
graciegirl
09-17-2013, 08:20 AM
Hi All,
This was sent to me today for information. I send it out as a reminder that even though we live in probably the safest place in the state of Florida, we need to be vigilant and neighbors need to look out for each other.
Robbery in Tall Trees
(TOOK NAME OF VICTIMS OUT) asked me to notify everyone about a robbery at their home on Welcome Way TODAY Monday 9/16 about 1pm. (Couple) were home at the time.
Husband had just washed the love-bugs off his car and had left the garage door open to allow his car to dry. One of the neighbors witnessed a car stopping at their house with a guy and three girls. One of the girls jumped out of the car ...ran into their garage and came out with a set of golf clubs. The neighbor yelled at the girl and the crooks took off. They notified the policed immediately and the police responded within 2 minutes but the thieves had already gotten away. They do have a description of the car and the girl. Best lesson
NEVER LEAVE YOUR GARAGE DOOR OPEN.
I knew sooner or later we would get more information.
senior citizen
09-17-2013, 08:37 AM
This was taken from Sperlings Best Places to Live....
The Villages Florida's crime seems to go along with the U.S. average.
The Villages, FL, violent crime, on a scale from 1 (low crime) to 10, is 4. Violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The US average is 4.
The Villages, FL, property crime, on a scale from 1 (low) to 10, is 4. Property crime includes the offenses of burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson. The object of the theft-type offenses is the taking of money or property, but there is no force or threat of force against the victims. The US average is 4.
Parker
09-17-2013, 08:37 AM
Whether or not this event happened, and I'm prone to believe it did, the point is that crime happens everywhere and we should all take normal precautions to avoid being a victim of it. My hubby loves to keep our garage door open because he's a busy guy, I love it closed. Up, down, up, down.
billethkid
09-17-2013, 08:39 AM
On the opposite side of the coin....I don't understand why someone would invade someone's "space" and steal their personal possessions?
I realize in TV it is advised NOT to leave your garage doors up, but it's not the home owner who is truly at fault.......it is the thief. In my humble opinion anyway..........
My husband always leaves his garage doors open up here and I'm beginning to remind him that it's that time of year when the field mice like to sneak in.........especially since it was below freezing in the 30's this morning.
I hope this is an isolated incident as far as having to worrying about robbery within the garage.
you don't have to worry about it here in TV anymore than you do up there.....matter of fact even less here.
Crimes of opportunity do happen and it does not matter where in the world one is. A little common sense is the best prevention.....without even thinking too hard about it.
Isolated incidents get a lot of play in our society with credibility often ignored.
btk
Bogie Shooter
09-17-2013, 09:42 AM
Another urban legend will now take legs.................
57ChevyFI
09-17-2013, 09:50 AM
Hi All,
This was sent to me today for information. I send it out as a reminder that even though we live in probably the safest place in the state of Florida, we need to be vigilant and neighbors need to look out for each other.
Robbery in Tall Trees
(TOOK NAME OF VICTIMS OUT) asked me to notify everyone about a robbery at their home on Welcome Way TODAY Monday 9/16 about 1pm. (Couple) were home at the time.
Husband had just washed the love-bugs off his car and had left the garage door open to allow his car to dry. One of the neighbors witnessed a car stopping at their house with a guy and three girls. One of the girls jumped out of the car ...ran into their garage and came out with a set of golf clubs. The neighbor yelled at the girl and the crooks took off. They notified the policed immediately and the police responded within 2 minutes but the thieves had already gotten away. They do have a description of the car and the girl. Best lesson
NEVER LEAVE YOUR GARAGE DOOR OPEN.
Still not a robbery. Robbery is a violent crime, this is a larceny, no need to make more out of this than it already is.
TheVillageChicken
09-17-2013, 09:59 AM
Still not a robbery. Robbery is a violent crime, this is a larceny, no need to make more out of this than it already is.
You are right to focus on this important aspect of the issue, as semantics are much more important than alerting fellow citizens to the consequences of non-vigilance, but I would characterize the crime as plundering. However, I do not rule out the possibility that it was a simple case of repossession.
graciegirl
09-17-2013, 10:02 AM
Still not a robbery. Robbery is a violent crime, this is a larceny, no need to make more out of this than it already is.
It appears that a garage got robbered. A set of golf clubs WAS larcened. This happened because four perps, jerks, nasties, stole the damned things right out of the aforementioned garage in the broad daylight.
I know that if it takes the girls VILLAGES posse to get involved they will, and they will run these larceners to the ground and make them sorry they were ever born to robber, larcen, steal, take, or borrow.
I hate crooks, larceners, robbers, thieves, and pilferers too. I hate them almost as much as I dislike finding I have used the wrong word.
57ChevyFI
09-17-2013, 10:10 AM
You are right to focus on this important aspect of the issue, as semantics are much more important than alerting fellow citizens to the consequences of non-vigilance, but I would characterize the crime as plundering. However, I do not rule out the possibility that it was a simple case of repossession.
Not really, Robbery is No different is a violent crime. No different than saying someone was murdered, when they were punched in the face. Just trying to make sure people aren't associating a larceny with a violent criminal activity. Things on here sometimes grow out of proportion.
llaran
09-17-2013, 10:28 AM
The car had 3 girls and 1 male. it did happen from info from the victim. tall trees also has had 3 home thefts on the same day a few years ago. This is a "city" of 100,000 ofcourse s#*t happens. BE AWARE
senior citizen
09-17-2013, 10:41 AM
Whether or not this event happened, and I'm prone to believe it did, the point is that crime happens everywhere and we should all take normal precautions to avoid being a victim of it. My hubby loves to keep our garage door open because he's a busy guy, I love it closed. Up, down, up, down.
Sounds like us.
Actually, I also looked our town up on Sperling and we also rate a "4".
Same as The Villages.....with regard to crime.......1 to 10 with 10 being the worst. 4 was the national average for crime.
graciegirl
09-17-2013, 10:45 AM
We are all a little off, aren't we?
senior citizen
09-17-2013, 10:46 AM
you don't have to worry about it here in TV anymore than you do up there.....matter of fact even less here.
Crimes of opportunity do happen and it does not matter where in the world one is. A little common sense is the best prevention.....without even thinking too hard about it.
Isolated incidents get a lot of play in our society with credibility often ignored.
btk
As I just posted, TV and our town rate the same "4" which is the national average. 1 to 10 with 10 being the worst as far as crime in a town.
Where we never had much crime at all years ago.......and people left their front doors open, their keys in the cars.........not so much nowadays.
Jewelry is being taken, whole safes carried out of homes......and so forth.
Usually when the home owners are away. Businesses are also being burglarized with items like computers and such being taken. Much of this is due to the fact that the thieves need money to support their drug habits and are usually youth in their 20's.
p.s. Copper is being stripped out of old buildings and sold for scrap metal value.
Our cops are "on the ball" and make no secret of the fact that it is a problem.
They talk freely in our daily newspaper about the problem.....often. Again, not a secret up here.
Again, drugs are the culprit........the thieves need money to support their habits.
beekman
09-17-2013, 11:10 AM
Simple answer, as I have said before, like others, CLOSE GARAGE DOOR, especially at night. Day time hours reduce risk of theft, however, a closed garage door at all times reduces odds to practically zero! Like when you buy insurance, how much risk are you willing to accept.
zonerboy
09-17-2013, 11:26 AM
It's a larceny or stealing, not a robbery. A set of golf clubs can not be robbed. A person would have had to have been holding the golf clubs or near the golf clubs and they were taken by force threat or intimidation to be a robbery. Not trying to be a pain, just trying to help people get the term right.
I appreciate 57ChevyFI's attempt to get people to communicate clearly and accurately. Using the proper word is a good start. Indeed, robbery is not the same as larceny. If the garage door is open, should it still be called a "break in"?
In my experience, however, such efforts are basically unproductive.
These are casual posts here, not term papers. So typos, misspellings, improper grammar, logical errors, and so forth are common. Sometimes they make me laugh. Other times I'm appalled at how many people don't seem to know the difference between there, their, and they're.
But it is what it is. Life is short. Don't worry about it.
angiefox10
09-17-2013, 12:14 PM
My husband has been going to court due to a man hitting him in the head at the gas station. He was coming to the aid of a lady who lives in The Villages... but that is another story.
He came home today telling me of a man who was put in jail for 27 months, $3,000 in fine plus restitution, for breaking into two homes in The Villages, while the people were home.
I never saw this mentioned in TOTV or in Sun Times. Hubby says if you want to know about the crime in The Villages, and there is plenty, go to court and where it's actually being tried.
We will be getting an alarm system!
Bogie Shooter
09-17-2013, 01:22 PM
My husband has been going to court due to a man hitting him in the head at the gas station. He was coming to the aid of a lady who lives in The Villages... but that is another story.
He came home today telling me of a man who was put in jail for 27 months, $3,000 in fine plus restitution, for breaking into two homes in The Villages, while the people were home.
I never saw this mentioned in TOTV or in Sun Times. Hubby says if you want to know about the crime in The Villages, and there is plenty, go to court and where it's actually being tried.
We will be getting an alarm system!
Going to court to find out how the bad guys are being treated will be way down on my list of things to do in The Villages.
bkcunningham1
09-17-2013, 01:26 PM
My husband has been going to court due to a man hitting him in the head at the gas station. He was coming to the aid of a lady who lives in The Villages... but that is another story.
He came home today telling me of a man who was put in jail for 27 months, $3,000 in fine plus restitution, for breaking into two homes in The Villages, while the people were home.
I never saw this mentioned in TOTV or in Sun Times. Hubby says if you want to know about the crime in The Villages, and there is plenty, go to court and where it's actually being tried.
We will be getting an alarm system!
Oh, Angie. I'm sorry to hear that your husband was injured assisting someone. Where was the gas station where the incident occurred?
ajbrown
09-17-2013, 01:27 PM
Sometimes they make me laugh. Other times I'm appalled at how many people don't seem to know the difference between there, their, and they're.
But it is what it is. Life is short. Don't worry about it.
I here you!
Jayhawk
09-17-2013, 01:40 PM
Things on here sometimes grow out of proportion.
Yeah, it's like continuing to beat a dead horse or correcting someone's grammar, right?
:024::bigbow:
rubicon
09-17-2013, 02:04 PM
I am not concerned about their personal affronts on other villagers or if the crime occurred here or there. Further they're being petty on whether (weather) it is a robbery larceny or pilferage.
However, I am concerned that people travel freely around The Villages looking for opportunities such the OP described in Tall Trees.
What is it about us that makes us easy targets? Our age, our trusting nature or the myth that all people who live in The Villages are rich?
I keep my doors locked and my garage door down because I recognize that critters and vermin come in all shapes and sizes
kittygilchrist
09-17-2013, 02:15 PM
If their we're a golf club theif, wear would they sale them at?
craigslist or a pawn shop, or??
Bogie Shooter
09-17-2013, 02:22 PM
if their we're a golf club theif, wear would they sale them at?
Craigslist or a pawn shop, or??
totv!
zonerboy
09-17-2013, 02:26 PM
Most of thise things I lernt back in grammer skool.
zonerboy
09-17-2013, 02:48 PM
Yeah, I leave the garage door open sometimes during the day. Especially if I'm doing some work outside. It's just for my convenience and saves wear and tear on the springs and rollers. If some one sneaks in when I'm not looking and steals something, well that's the price I pay for my decision. As Mom would say, they must have needed it more than I did. Gotta feed the family, or buy some drugs, or something real important.
Seems like a stupid crime anyway. Can't make much money selling used golf clubs. Can't hardly get rid of them at a garage sale.
rubicon
09-17-2013, 03:09 PM
Yeah, I leave the garage door open sometimes during the day. Especially if I'm doing some work outside. It's just for my convenience and saves wear and tear on the springs and rollers. If some one sneaks in when I'm not looking and steals something, well that's the price I pay for my decision. As Mom would say, they must have needed it more than I did. Gotta feed the family, or buy some drugs, or something real important.
Seems like a stupid crime anyway. Can't make much money selling used golf clubs. Can't hardly get rid of them at a garage sale.
perhaps they decided to use them to play??????????????????
mikeandnancy1112
09-17-2013, 05:25 PM
Not only do we make sure our garage is closed at all times, but we lock our clubs on when we go to breakfast after golf. My husband was in the bank one day. A man came in very disgusted and said his $300 bat was taken out of his golf cart in Southern Trace Shopping Plaza. You just can't be too careful this day and age.
kittygilchrist
09-17-2013, 05:45 PM
walk softly and carry.
57ChevyFI
09-17-2013, 06:16 PM
Yeah, it's like continuing to beat a dead horse or correcting someone's grammar, right?
:024::bigbow:
My grammar blows and I make mistakes typing all the time. I guess I just can't understand how a larceny can be confused with a Robbery. It's mind boggling. There is enough stuff in the Villages that gets over exaggerated, not trying to be a pain, just thought I could help put things in perspective. People "correct" people on here all the time. It's not a big deal.
kittygilchrist
09-17-2013, 06:38 PM
I'm just wading in without reading all the posts. If I saw a theft like this, I'd ride on the bumper till the law came.
Barefoot
09-17-2013, 06:39 PM
Whether or not this event happened, and I'm prone to believe it did, the point is that crime happens everywhere and we should all take normal precautions to avoid being a victim of it. My hubby loves to keep our garage door open because he's a busy guy, I love it closed. Up, down, up, down.
Parker, I can relate to that. Fireboy is a busy garage guy also. He is usually working on his hobby, E Flyer planes, and our garage door is constantly left open. And so is the door from the garage to the house. And we may be out back in the birdcage having a cool drink.
This thread is a good thread reminder that a little more caution would be a good thing.
buzzy
09-17-2013, 08:04 PM
Parker, I can relate to that. Fireboy is a busy garage guy also. He is usually working on his hobby, E Flyer planes, and our garage door is constantly left open. And so is the door from the garage to the house. And we may be out back in the birdcage having a cool drink.
This thread is a good thread reminder that a little more caution would be a good thing.
Barefoot,
For that reason we have installed a roll-up garage screen. Reduces the heat, and allows me to work in there. I can see out, but others cannot see in. When you get back, I'll show Rick.
senior citizen
09-17-2013, 09:11 PM
My husband has been going to court due to a man hitting him in the head at the gas station. He was coming to the aid of a lady who lives in The Villages... but that is another story.
He came home today telling me of a man who was put in jail for 27 months, $3,000 in fine plus restitution, for breaking into two homes in The Villages, while the people were home.
I never saw this mentioned in TOTV or in Sun Times. Hubby says if you want to know about the crime in The Villages, and there is plenty, go to court and where it's actually being tried.
We will be getting an alarm system!
I agree that an alarm system would give you some peace of mind.
It's on my list.
Sorry that your husband had to go through everything mentioned above, but I am grateful for your posting it.
I would think that such incidents should definitely be in the local newspaper. If not, it just gives people a false sense of security. Our daily morning paper always has all of the court news.........the good, the bad and the ugly. As I've been saying, times have certainly changed during the past 43 years as far as crime in our town.
Residents have a right to know. No matter where they live.
Barefoot
09-17-2013, 10:00 PM
Barefoot,
For that reason we have installed a roll-up garage screen. Reduces the heat, and allows me to work in there. I can see out, but others cannot see in. When you get back, I'll show Rick.
Thanks Buzzy, sounds like a great idea. Can it be locked?
buzzy
09-17-2013, 10:37 PM
Thanks Buzzy, sounds like a great idea. Can it be locked?
Well, no. A burglar could just cut through it. But until they do, they wouldn't know what is behind the screen.
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