I'm a little worried.....

[Happinow]

I'm getting a little worried. A neighbor two doors down just painted their front door and garage door barn red. About three culdesacs away, they painted their trim Forrest green. I am worried that people will start painting their homes, doors, trim and what ever else they can, all kinds of colors. With the homes so close, I think the neighborhoods will start to look like a circus town with all different colors. The reason we moved here is because we like the simplicity and class of the neighborhoods and how pleasing to the eye all of the homes are. I know each to their own but this is not the type of area to express your personal taste in such a bold way. Is anyone else thinking about this?

[DougB]

I haven't thought about it

[DianeM]

I'd love a red door but not garage door. Seems inappropriate. My house came with a green door when I bought it.

[Happinow]

I think painting a front door is fine but the garage doors are an eye sorer. Since garage doors are down most of the time they are in your face. Why would anyone want to put more attention on the garage doors? The reason they are painted the way the are when built is to make them blend not stand out.

[asianthree]

my house came with forest green doors....next door is navy, across the street is dark red...and next to them is a pea green,,,that what the villages painted them..... let the rainbow begin

[perrjojo]

You should report it to Community Standards. I doubt this is allowed. BTW, reports are anonymous. You will not have to give your name. Someone will come out and look and if it is a violation they will be cited. Changing the paint color must be approved.

[DougB]

I'm getting a little worried. A neighbor two doors down just painted their front door and garage door barn red. About three culdesacs away, they painted their trim Forrest green. I am worried that people will start painting their homes, doors, trim and what ever else they can, all kinds of colors. With the homes so close, I think the neighborhoods will start to look like a circus town with all different colors.

I saw 12 - 15 clowns in a golf cart going town Morse earlier today.

[KittyKat]

Happinow, this worries me too. When I wanted to paint the front door I called the ARC to see if I needed to fill out the form and was told no. I started to tell her what color I was going to paint it and she said they don't care(!). I couldn't believe it. The garage door is painted to match the tan siding. I can't imagine a red garage door and also the forest green trim on the other house. I have seen a house off of Delmar that has a bright blue on the trim. Pretty soon we'll be seeing houses painted pink and turquoise--that's the reason we wanted south of 466. I think you should get those addresses and give the compliance people a call.

[graciegirl]

You should report it to Community Standards. I doubt this is allowed. BTW, reports are anonymous. You will not have to give your name. Someone will come out and look and if it is a violation they will be cited. Changing the paint color must be approved.

Unfortunately it is allowed. And it worries me too.

Deed restrictions do not govern exterior paint colors or colors on driveways.

This can become a problem. I wish they would change it.

[maddie101]

.....but they care if two houses next to each other are the same color. Go figure.

[graciegirl]

.....but they care if two houses next to each other are the same color. Go figure.




There have been some talked about instances of intense color used around town. It is sad that not everyone has the same idea of what is tasteful. I very much know that the people who designed this place do know what is tasteful, but it is not in the deed restrictions for some reason or another.

Our neighbors moved from Bonita Springs near Ft. Meyers and they said their development had restrictions on what homes could be repainted, they had to have approval.

I wish they did here.

[gilbey16]

There have been some talked about instances of intense color used around town. It is sad that not everyone has the same idea of what is tasteful. I very much know that the people who designed this place do know what is tasteful, but it is not in the deed restrictions for some reason or another.

Our neighbors moved from Bonita Springs near Ft. Meyers and they said their development had restrictions on what homes could be repainted, they had to have approval.

I wish they did here.

:agree:

[bkcunningham1]

If someone's front door worries you guys, you wouldn't have liked the house I saw a couple of weeks ago while I was going to yard sales with my stepdaughter. It was P-I-N-K. The lady having the yard sale lived directly across the street from the house and actually had a table set up on her driveway asking people to sign a petition requesting that there be restrictions on the colors people can paint their houses.

I told her I liked the house. She didn't ask me to sign her petition. Who knows? Maybe the person who lives there is a breast cancer survivor. Or maybe the color wasn't exactly what they wanted, or maybe they just like the color. Or maybe they did it to **** off their nosey neighbor across the street.

[Jim 9922]

I'm getting a little worried. A neighbor two doors down just painted their front door and garage door barn red. ------. I know each to their own but this is not the type of area to express your personal taste in such a bold way. Is anyone else thinking about this?

Apparently you haven't been bothered by some of the awful painted/decorated driveways that seem abound in The Villages. To me a red or green door is minor compared to what can be done on a 16'X 30' hunk of concrete!

[njbchbum]

the issue of house painting and arc approval has come up as recently as the may 8 amenity authority committee mtg re the lady lake/lake county area.

the burden this would place on the arc is discussed in some depth at the may 8 aac minutes that you should be able to link to from here: VCDD AAC (http://www.districtgov.org/aac/aac.aspx) listing of dates is on lower half of the page. it's an interesting read! ;)

[justjim]

Recently saw a Premier painted a bright blue color. Generally the Developer did a good job on deed restrictions but blew this one on painting. It can be fixed but will take a major effort.

[Lpierleo]

Happinow, I can understand them possibly changing the color of their front door, but certainly not the garage door(s)! I would be concerned as well. I thought those types of changes had to be approved by ARC, but according to other posters it sounds like that is not the case. I would give them a call just to ensure there is nothing that can be done. Good Luck and Best wishes.

[ilovetv]

Apparently you haven't been bothered by some of the awful painted/decorated driveways that seem abound in The Villages. To me a red or green door is minor compared to what can be done on a 16'X 30' hunk of concrete!

So true about the driveways. It would be better if driveway coating/covering/painting were limited to only two or three texture/color combinations.

Courtyard villas are restricted and subject to ARC approval for painting them in varied colors, like Mission Hills has. And driveways can only be one way---stained/coated with the approved material and color for the CYV neighborhood.

[Indydealmaker]

.....but they care if two houses next to each other are the same color. Go figure.
They just wanted to minimize the chances of drunks coming home to the wrong house.:1rotfl:

[kaydee]

Happinow, this worries me too. When I wanted to paint the front door I called the ARC to see if I needed to fill out the form and was told no. I started to tell her what color I was going to paint it and she said they don't care(!). I couldn't believe it. The garage door is painted to match the tan siding. I can't imagine a red garage door and also the forest green trim on the other house. I have seen a house off of Delmar that has a bright blue on the trim. Pretty soon we'll be seeing houses painted pink and turquoise--that's the reason we wanted south of 466. I think you should get those addresses and give the compliance people a call.

I guess if you live south of 466 you aren't protected either from neighbors choosing unacceptable colors.

[graciegirl]

I guess if you live south of 466 you aren't protected either from neighbors choosing unacceptable colors.

That is correct.

[Barefoot]

When I wanted to paint the front door I called the ARC to see if I needed to fill out the form and was told no. I started to tell her what color I was going to paint it and she said they don't care(!).

I am astonished to hear this. :22yikes: it's not good news! I was always under the impression that ARC permission was required in order to change paint colors of houses, doors, garage doors, shingles, trim.

[bkcunningham1]

the issue of house painting and arc approval has come up as recently as the may 8 amenity authority committee mtg re the lady lake/lake county area.

the burden this would place on the arc is discussed in some depth at the may 8 aac minutes that you should be able to link to from here: VCDD AAC (http://www.districtgov.org/aac/aac.aspx) listing of dates is on lower half of the page. it's an interesting read! ;)

..."electric colors"... Is Jamaican Blue an electric color? Thanks njbchbum. That was an interesting read. All of that talk about an acceptable palette leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[senior citizen]

..."electric colors"... Is Jamaican Blue an electric color? Thanks njbchbum. That was an interesting read. All of that talk about an acceptable palette leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


We were also turned off by the condo rules (not that we wanted to paint our door a crazy color; we did not).....when we bought our beachfront condo years ago. But you abide by the rules.

It just was very strange after living in a place with little or no zoning for so many years......where people were free to do as they pleased in their own homes and to their own homes.

However, to keep things "uniform" do understand the concept and luckily, we like earth tones.

[unknown*server]

Take a drive down Cokesbury in the village of Caroline, right off of Stillwater. I'll let you determine which house I'm referring to... what a putrid shade!

[DianeM]

I think painting a front door is fine but the garage doors are an eye sorer. Since garage doors are down most of the time they are in your face. Why would anyone want to put more attention on the garage doors? The reason they are painted the way the are when built is to make them blend not stand out.

Absolutely.

[Phanatic Luvr]

You should report it to Community Standards. I doubt this is allowed. BTW, reports are anonymous. You will not have to give your name. Someone will come out and look and if it is a violation they will be cited. Changing the paint color must be approved.

I don't know if you are correct in stating "changing the paint color must be approved". My husband has painted the exterior of a few homes in TV's and questioned this prior to painting and the answer was it didn't have to be approved. I also remember reading something, not all that long ago in the Daily Sun, about they were trying to made it that you needed approval prior to painting the outside of a home.

[mulligan]

Why don't people just read and abide by the deed restrictions they agreed to at closing??

[gomoho]

Why don't people just read and abide by the deed restrictions they agreed to at closing??

The people painting are abiding by the deed restrictions - there are none when it comes to paint colors. The people complaining are not abiding by the deed restrictions - they are complaining about a restriction that doesn't exist.

[senior citizen]

They just wanted to minimize the chances of drunks coming home to the wrong house.:1rotfl:

I was not thinking drunks, but I was thinking the same exact thing while reading these posts......that it would be so easy to return home to the wrong house.......so maybe they are just marking their territory with a bright color they won't forget.

Apparently, not too many have been up to Canada or Nova Scotia....
They love their bright colors and the homes are all distinctive.

Up here we have pale dove grey with all crisp white trim on the shutters, front porch, picket fence, garage doors, window trim....everything is crisp white against the pale grey siding.......with some natural red brick halfway up the front covered porch..........grey Vermont slate on the steps leading up to the front porch and on the front porch............so all very neutral. Even our three season sun porch off the back of the house is all crisp white exterior and the deck is natural light wood Trex decking...as is the floor of the sun porch........all neutral.

That said, I have seen some really pretty PALE PINK and PALE SEAFOAM BLUE homes with LOTS OF WHITE TRIM.......that look very Floridian and Key West.........and very attractive. There is pink and then there is pink.

In our other home, where we raised our family, we also had dove grey on the cedar clapboards with white trim........and a RED FRONT DOOR.

As I type this, my husband is repainting our front door........which is a fiberglass door with stained glass......plus glass "sidelights" on each side.........it originally had been painted or stained an "antique ivory"......but he's painting it white as the sun did a number on the color and it "turned"........I can smell the fumes now..........

Red doors are very New England. But, don't think I would have one in Florida.

[Lovey2]

Uh-oh! My understanding was that almost anything you wanted to do outside (driveways, painting, installed flag poles and the like) had to be approved. While this may annoy some people, I was happy with this for aesthetic reasons. I have lived in SWFL for 23 years and where I came from some of the homes were painted most garishly even tho we had other property restrictions in place. One guy painted his house bright orange, simply BECAUSE the city asked him to remove a small boat he had trailered next to his home on the grass. Again, one of the reasons we moved there..the restrictions. I hope we don't get to that here. I like the nice soothing look of the neighborhoods...paint whatever you'd like inside so only you can enjoy it, and leave the outside colors be.

[senior citizen]

Uh-oh! My understanding was that almost anything you wanted to do outside (driveways, painting, installed flag poles and the like) had to be approved. While this may annoy some people, I was happy with this for aesthetic reasons. I have lived in SWFL for 23 years and where I came from some of the homes were painted most garishly even tho we had other property restrictions in place. One guy painted his house bright orange, simply BECAUSE the city asked him to remove a small boat he had trailered next to his home on the grass. Again, one of the reasons we moved there..the restrictions. I hope we don't get to that here. I like the nice soothing look of the neighborhoods...paint whatever you'd like inside so only you can enjoy it, and leave the outside colors be.


Zoning is indeed good. It keeps everything looking neat........
I agree........save the loud colors for indoors.......if that is their preference.

I still can't believe it, but when we were first married in 1965 and shortly thereafter bought our first house......we painted one wall in the living room ORANGE. What were we thinking? Now, everything is neutral.

We've owned five different homes in our 48 years of marriage and that was the only orange wall. Orange must have been the in color as we also bought an orange "shag" carpeting when we moved to Vermont. Horrors.
That was the end of the orange era..........after that we had brown carpeting, silver snow (pale grey) carpeting, oatmeal berber and "sand" color carpeting, etc.........

Restrictions and zoning are good. There, I said it again.
We have a great neighbor across the road from us.
However, he put his "above ground pool" on the side of his house up close to his garage doors.........no privacy fence. Anything goes up here.

But, shouldn't complain........he had to look at my husband's big boat in our driveway for many many years........

If you drive into the rural parts of Vermont.........it really gets "busy" with old trucks, cars, ATV's, etc. parked every which way, wherever they land, on the properties.........and a few pink flamingos, believe it or not.
Again, lack of zoning. Everyone is free to do as they please.

[graciegirl]

Why don't people just read and abide by the deed restrictions they agreed to at closing??

Repainting homes in another color isn't in the deed restrictions or restricted in any way, Mulligan. I HATE to think what will happen when folks are needing to repaint and allowed to choose. Most people have good taste, but not all.

There is lilkewise nothing restricted about driveway colors.

[Happinow]

Happinow, I can understand them possibly changing the color of their front door, but certainly not the garage door(s)! I would be concerned as well. I thought those types of changes had to be approved by ARC, but according to other posters it sounds like that is not the case. I would give them a call just to ensure there is nothing that can be done. Good Luck and Best wishes.

I did call community standards and they said there are no restrictions on larger homes....only villas. They also said they are working on coming up with color restrictions based on some of the awful colors they have seen, so I expect they will be implementing some sort of color codes soon.

[graciegirl]

I did call community standards and they said there are no restrictions on larger homes....only villas. They also said they are working on coming up with color restrictions based on some of the awful colors they have seen, so I expect they will be implementing some sort of color codes soon.

I hope so. But those already painted will probably stand.

[Lovey2]

well...like I said before...uh-oh! We were very happy with the restrictions in Cape Coral, and YES, would even call code enforcement when we had an infraction on our street. No, I don't wanna look at your boat, unless it's out in the canal..no, I don't want your big lettered work truck in the driveway, I'm not living in a industrial park, and no, I don't think you should have cars, trucks, trailers, old hot tubs, etc. between the houses, and mow your lawn regularly, please. So...I was happy to learn there were restrictions here, although I very much wanted a gazebo out back. I KNOW mine would be tasteful (to me) but did I want to look at a (maybe) purple one....no. So I go with the restrictions, and hope everyone else does too. Now I learn there aren't enough of them...UH-OH!

[oldyeller]

I don't see this working we live in a CYV and our neighbors had to get all their colors approved. I also know of a woman who wanted to paint the front door blue and they said no. The people with the red door probably followed the "its better to beg forgiveness rather than ask for permission philosophy". Just saying!

[perrjojo]

I don't know if you are correct in stating "changing the paint color must be approved". My husband has painted the exterior of a few homes in TV's and questioned this prior to painting and the answer was it didn't have to be approved. I also remember reading something, not all that long ago in the Daily Sun, about they were trying to made it that you needed approval prior to painting the outside of a home.

It seems that I am partially correct. We live in a CYV and colors must be approved. That doesn't seem to be the case for homes.

[graciegirl]

well...like I said before...uh-oh! We were very happy with the restrictions in Cape Coral, and YES, would even call code enforcement when we had an infraction on our street. No, I don't wanna look at your boat, unless it's out in the canal..no, I don't want your big lettered work truck in the driveway, I'm not living in a industrial park, and no, I don't think you should have cars, trucks, trailers, old hot tubs, etc. between the houses, and mow your lawn regularly, please. So...I was happy to learn there were restrictions here, although I very much wanted a gazebo out back. I KNOW mine would be tasteful (to me) but did I want to look at a (maybe) purple one....no. So I go with the restrictions, and hope everyone else does too. Now I learn there aren't enough of them...UH-OH!

Deep breaths Denise.

Many people have lived here long enough to have a repaint and you don't see a sea of garish colors. AND the folks behind the curtain are working on it, according to Happinow's report from warranty. I trust THEM more than a voting bunch of homeowners. They have proven to have not only beaufiful taste but remarkable business sense and that old standby, common sense.

Don't give up the ship. I betcha they will fix it.

[samhass]

Our home sits under a massive old oak. We had it painted a fawn grey that almost matches the moss in tree and also picked up all the charcoal colors in our tan stonework. . All the trim is in white except for the front doors. They pick up the browns of the stone. Just because paint is different from everyone else's, that doesn't make it bad. After a bit the sea of pastels becomes boring, IMHO. My house used
to be yellow and stuck out. Now it disappears into the earth and trees when I look at it from a distance. I like that.

[senior citizen]

Our home sits under a massive old oak. We had it painted a fawn grey that almost matches the moss in tree and also picked up all the charcoal colors in our tan stonework. . All the trim is in white except for the front doors. They pick up the browns of the stone. Just because paint is different from everyone else's, that doesn't make it bad. After a bit the sea of pastels becomes boring, IMHO. My house used
to be yellow and stuck out. Now it disappears into the earth and trees when I look at it from a distance. I like that.

It sounds quite nice. Very earthy. Most of the homes we saw when visiting in TV were in the beige or tan spectrum........plus greys.

Every now and then we'd see a pale pale seafoam..........once a very pale pink......but they weren't garish at all.

I do favor white trim.

[senior citizen]

Deep breaths Denise.

Many people have lived here long enough to have a repaint and you don't see a sea of garish colors. AND the folks behind the curtain are working on it, according to Happinow's report from warranty. I trust THEM more than a voting bunch of homeowners. They have proven to have not only beaufiful taste but remarkable business sense and that old standby, common sense.

Don't give up the ship. I betcha they will fix it.

I agree with Gracie. We didn't see anything at all that was unsightly.
Believe me.

The entire place impressed us favorably.....every single village......
There is something for everyone......

I wonder how many people are buying their first home?

For those of us who have had so many homes in our long married lives, decorating at this stage in our life is not top of the list.........more like recuperating from THE MOVE.

We've remodeled and redecorated so many times including adding on big additions that it's more like "been there, done that".........just want a relaxing place to hang our hat. (and I don't even wear a hat)

So, hoping to find a gently used place that has most of our "wants" already done.

[elevatorman]

Can you help me choose? I am leaning towards the jumbo jet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=garage+door+covers+decals&sa=X&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS239&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=uQI7UqmxGYTa8ASyvoCAAQ&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1600&bih=759&dpr=1#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=fZxdV5v2OrOAjM%3A%3BQ19y5F_KL2tAGM%3Bhttp%25 3A%252F%252Fwww.joe-ks.com%252Farchives_mar2010%252FGarageDoorArt_A.jp g%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.joe-ks.com%252Farchives_mar2010%252FGarageDoorArt.htm% 3B560%3B375

[Lovey2]

apparently I write stronger than I intend. I am breathing very deeply and LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it here. Just please...don't paint the house, garage doors, or trim next to me purple!! :)
or...here we go...let your pet toilet on my lawn!!! :) :) :)

[graciegirl]

apparently I write stronger than I intend. I am breathing very deeply and LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it here. Just please...don't paint the house, garage doors, or trim next to me purple!! :)
or...here we go...let your pet toilet on my lawn!!! :) :) :)

I didn't take it as abrasive at all, and my intent was for you not to worry.

As SamHass has explained about her own home, the folks who have repainted, and there are many, have shown overwhelming good taste. They chose this beautiful place.

And they came here loving what they saw.

I do NOT like some neighborhoods in south Florida with REALLY intense colors. That is one of the reasons I love this place, The Villages. It is beautiful everywhere your eye sees.

[zonerboy]

[QUOTE=samhass;748742]Our home sits under a massive old oak. We had it painted a fawn grey that almost matches the moss in tree and also picked up all the charcoal colors in our tan stonework.

Why would someone paint a "massive old oak" tree? I think they look fine just the way they are.

[samhass]

Sorry, Zonerboy. I wasn't an English major.
:icon_wink:

[Baileysmom]

[QUOTE=elevatorman;748765]Can you help me choose? I am leaning towards the jumbo jet.

I like the jet Elevatorman but think the boat might be more 'villages' style. My personal preference would be the horse, I really enjoyed 'Mr. Ed" as a kid. LOL I have not laughed so hard in a while, thanks for the visual aid. :)

I find this discussion interesting and I truly don't have much of an opinion about what my current neighbors do. The house next to us has been 'bank owned' for several years and is an eyesore like you would not believe. You can see the house was once very nice but now it is horrible. It is on a corner lot so lots of us get to share it's spendor. :(

[bkcunningham1]

Can you help me choose? I am leaning towards the jumbo jet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=garage+door+covers+decals&sa=X&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS239&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=uQI7UqmxGYTa8ASyvoCAAQ&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1600&bih=759&dpr=1#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=fZxdV5v2OrOAjM%3A%3BQ19y5F_KL2tAGM%3Bhttp%25 3A%252F%252Fwww.joe-ks.com%252Farchives_mar2010%252FGarageDoorArt_A.jp g%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.joe-ks.com%252Farchives_mar2010%252FGarageDoorArt.htm% 3B560%3B375

Oh yes!

[T-325]

Its nice that people are painting and taking care of their home... no matter what the color.

[Arubagirl2000]

Take a drive down Cokesbury in the village of Caroline, right off of Stillwater. I'll let you determine which house I'm referring to... what a putrid shade!

That lady was gracious enough to repaint her house at her own cost. She had no idea it would create such an uproar when she moved in and had it painted.

[Baileysmom]

Can you help me choose? I am leaning towards the jumbo jet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=garage+door+covers+decals&sa=X&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS239&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=uQI7UqmxGYTa8ASyvoCAAQ&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1600&bih=759&dpr=1#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=fZxdV5v2OrOAjM%3A%3BQ19y5F_KL2tAGM%3Bhttp%25 3A%252F%252Fwww.joe-ks.com%252Farchives_mar2010%252FGarageDoorArt_A.jp g%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.joe-ks.com%252Farchives_mar2010%252FGarageDoorArt.htm% 3B560%3B375

I like the jet Elevatorman but think the boat might be more 'villages' style. My personal preference would be the horse, I really enjoyed 'Mr. Ed" as a kid. LOL I have not laughed so hard in a while, thanks for the visual aid. :)

I find this discussion interesting and I truly don't have much of an opinion about what my current neighbors do. The house next to us has been 'bank owned' for several years and is an eyesore like you would not believe. You can see the house was once very nice but now it is horrible. It is on a corner lot so lots of us get to share it's spendor. :(

[mrfixit]

I'm getting a little worried. A neighbor two doors down just painted their front door and garage door barn red.
I know each to their own but this is not the type of area to express your personal taste in such a bold way. Is anyone else thinking about this?

>>>>>>>............The significance of a Red Door............<<<<<<<

Colonial Americans .....( and direct decendents ).......this is a "safe haven".
...............................( this home brings good luck and a warm welcome ).

To Catholics......................................... ...........signifies "Blood of Christ".
.................................................. ...........................( divine protection ).
...................most Federal courts allow as freedom of Religious expression .

Some (esp. Scottish & Poles).......................when mortgage is paid-in-full.

According to the United States Supreme Court...(regarding The First Amendment)...
............This freedom is "the matrix",-- The indispensable condition of nearly every
other form of freedom. Without it, other fundamental rights, like the right to vote,
would wither and die.

First amendment protection is not limited to "pure speech". It also protects
"symbolic speech"--nonverbal expression whose purpose is to communicate ideas.

[graciegirl]

>>>>>>>............The significance of a Red Door............<<<<<<<

Colonial Americans .....( and direct decendents ).......this is a "safe haven".
...............................( this home brings good luck and a warm welcome ).

To Catholics......................................... ...........signifies "Blood of Christ".
.................................................. ...........................( divine protection ).
...................most Federal courts allow as freedom of Religious expression .

Some (esp. Scottish & Poles).......................when mortgage is paid-in-full.

According to the United States Supreme Court...(regarding The First Amendment)...
............This freedom is "the matrix",-- The indispensable condition of nearly every
other form of freedom. Without it, other fundamental rights, like the right to vote,
would wither and die.

First amendment protection is not limited to "pure speech". It also protects
"symbolic speech"--nonverbal expression whose purpose is to communicate ideas.


I agree with this completely unless someone's free expression involves a Fuchsia home near me. Then I will not agree, but suffer silently.

[gomoho]

Anyone know how they could add a deed restriction after you have signed off on the deed restriction at closing??? I'm all for having some control over paint colors, but hw do you accomplish that after the fact?

[travelguy]

You should report it to Community Standards. I doubt this is allowed. BTW, reports are anonymous. You will not have to give your name. Someone will come out and look and if it is a violation they will be cited. Changing the paint color must be approved.

while the report may be anonymous (your information will not be communicated to the offending party) you must give your information to the person taking the report. otherwise there will be no report; they usually reply back to you when the complaint has been delivered.
but, it is not anonymous.

[graciegirl]

while the report may be anonymous (your information will not be communicated to the offending party) you must give your information to the person taking the report. otherwise there will be no report; they usually reply back to you when the complaint has been delivered.
but, it is not anonymous.

No one likes to be a snitch, but some things just need to be reported because they are so BAD looking.

They don't tell the person that you reported that you reported them.

Paint color is not one of them that is under deed restrictions and there is nothing that can be done if someone paints something a gawdawful color.

If you want to confront the person knowing this and hoping for change you must weigh whether you want to live in the same neighborhood with someone who dislikes you mightily.

I like deed restrictions, They have teeth.

Sometimes we will have to just swallow hard and put up with things.

A bad, BAD, paint color can devalue all of the homes around it and I feel very bad for the people who have to deal with their neighbors poor taste.

[DougB]

I agree with this completely unless someone's free expression involves a Fuchsia home near me. Then I will not agree, but suffer silently.

But it would nice with a flock of plastic flamingoes in the front yard.

[shcisamax]

I agree with this completely unless someone's free expression involves a Fuchsia home near me. Then I will not agree, but suffer silently.

Same here. Well, maybe not exactly silently but...

[graciegirl]

But it would nice with a flock of plastic flamingoes in the front yard.


Perhaps, but......

http://www.ndsu.edu/uploads/RTEmagicC_flamingo_house.jpg.jpg

[Bill32]

one of the main reasons we bought in TV was the pleasing earth tones and uniformity driving through the neighborhoods. Many of us came from areas with no restrictions and could have retired to one , we chose TV believing it would remain the same in future years. Deed restrictions protect our investments. In a past post on this subject someone felt the need to express their individuality, personally I don't need to witness it....................;)

[Bogie Shooter]

Anyone know how they could add a deed restriction after you have signed off on the deed restriction at closing??? I'm all for having some control over paint colors, but hw do you accomplish that after the fact?

From Deed Restrictions

8. AMENDMENTS:
The Developer shall have the right to amend the Covenants and Restrictions of this declaration from time to time by duly recording an instrument excuted and acknowledged by the Developer in the public records of the county where the Subdivision is located.

[cquick]

In Hunter's Creek, Orlando, where I lived before moving to The Villages, there were very strict codes on what color you could paint your house or trim. You DID have to fill out an ARC (architectural review committee) form. They met regularly and you waited until the ok came through before proceeding. I know of at least 2 homes that had to be repainted because the colors were not approved.

Hunter's Creek had volunteer committees from each neighborhood to made decisions.

[Mayeapple109]

Ugh....that happened in a neighborhood in Ga. Barn yellow mixed with dark maroon trim. I can't believe TV doesn't have set standards on paint colors. Wow.

[Wrkdhrd]

Oh wow. Although I'm an earth tone person and wouldn't paint my front door let alone garage doors a loud color, I would want to know that I could if I wanted. It's my house after all. If my neighbor painted their garage doors a color I wouldn't care or even have a thought about, there goes the neighborhood. It's not like they have multiple cars on cinder blocks.

If this is representative of TV, I'm glad I found it before I bought there.

[graciegirl]

Oh wow. Although I'm an earth tone person and wouldn't paint my front door let alone garage doors a loud color, I would want to know that I could if I wanted. It's my house after all. If my neighbor painted their garage doors a color I wouldn't care or even have a thought about, there goes the neighborhood. It's not like they have multiple cars on cinder blocks.

If this is representative of TV, I'm glad I found it before I bought there.


Yes it is. And if you have never been here you will see it is one of the loveliest places to live you could imagine, with quietly beautiful homes with similar architecture and balanced in color and size and variety of landscaping dotted with tropical blooms, and generally you have to look very hard for a blemish or a gum wrapper.

It is serene and eye pleasing everywhere you look,kind of like a Marie Cassatt painting or whatsies water lilies. You will fall in love and want it to stay the way it is when you see it.

[Wrkdhrd]

Then don't buy it. I hardly think painting garage doors forest green is an affront on life.

[Wrkdhrd]

Yes it is.

Yes it's representative of TV or yes it's an affront of life? I was confused.

[Wrkdhrd]

Yes it is. And if you have never been here you will see it is one of the loveliest places to live you could imagine, with quietly beautiful homes with similar architecture and balanced in color and size and variety of landscaping dotted with tropical blooms, and generally you have to look very hard for a blemish or a gum wrapper.

It is serence and eye pleasing kind of like a Marie Cassatt painting. You will fall in love and want it to stay the way it is when you see it.


I get that. But how serene is it really if you paint your front door and get attacked? Not very. No I don't think people should be rude and act rude, I believe in courtesy and a civilized society. I don't think people should gum wrappers all over the streets, that to me is trash life, I get that. But painting a door?

[graciegirl]

Yes it's representative of TV or yes it's an affront of life? I was confused.


I added to my post above. I love your avatar name.

If you have not been here, hold all thoughts until you arrive.

This is not your mama's retirement place.

It is absolutely beyond description and those of us who live here in all of the homes from the ones that cost 70K to the ones that cost 1.5 million are so proud of it.

We all live like we are millionaires including miles and miles and miles of pristine tree lined streets, all beautifully maintained and dozens of golf courses and ponds. Thousands of clubs and dozens of pools, some for grown ups and some allowed for under thirty. Every place is decorated like the most beautiful place that you could imagine.

[Bogie Shooter]

Oh wow. Although I'm an earth tone person and wouldn't paint my front door let alone garage doors a loud color, I would want to know that I could if I wanted. It's my house after all. If my neighbor painted their garage doors a color I wouldn't care or even have a thought about, there goes the neighborhood. It's not like they have multiple cars on cinder blocks.

If this is representative of TV, I'm glad I found it before I bought there.

Does this now mean you will stop bashing TV?

[graciegirl]

I get that. But how serene is it really if you paint your front door and get attacked? Not very. No I don't think people should be rude and act rude, I believe in courtesy and a civilized society. I don't think people should gum wrappers all over the streets, that to me is trash life, I get that. But painting a door?

Remember how we all knew how to raise children? Before we had any?

Wait and see. I am sure you will agree.

No one is getting their knickers in a stitch about a door. Just see how nice this place is. Then decide.

[Wrkdhrd]

I added to my post above. I love your avatar name.

If you have not been here, hold all thoughts until you arrive.

This is not your mama's retirement place.

It is absolutely beyond description and those of us who live here in all of the homes from the ones that cost 70K to the ones that cost 1.5 million are so proud of it.

We all live like we are millionaires including miles and miles and miles of pristine tree lined streets, all beautifully maintained and dozens of golf courses and ponds. Thousands of clubs and dozens of pools, some for grown ups and some allowed for under thirty. Every place is decorated like the most beautiful place that you could imagine.

Thank you for the civilized discussion, I appreciate it. Like I said I absolutely do appreciate the cleanliness and rules per se of garbage houses, no one wants to see that, but painting a door? Or garage doors? That seems extreme and definitely not welcoming and what you worked for.

[Wrkdhrd]

Remember how we all knew how to raise children? Before we had any?

Wait and see. I am sure you will agree.

No one is getting their knickers in a stitch about a door. Just see how nice this place is. Then decide.

But to quote you, they do seem to be getting their knickers in a stitch about a door. Look at the title of the thread.

[graciegirl]

Um...I think the doors were o.k. The garage doors were a little controversial.

but it is too hard to try to tell someone anything that hasn't visited here and I think we speak different dialects. ;) I am just an uneducated farm girl.

[Wrkdhrd]

Does this now mean you will stop bashing TV?


Excuse me? Show me where I have bashed TV. The title of the thread is I'm worried,well so am I. I'm trying to have a discussion about it, I'm sorry if you don't like it, if discussion represents bashing?..?

[karostay]

They have not violated any building standards. Just because someones color taste may not be in tune as everyone else. Who are we to criticize

[Wrkdhrd]

Um...I think the doors were o.k. The garage doors were a little controversial.

but it is too hard to try to tell someone anything that hasn't visited here and I think we speak different dialects. ;) I am just an uneducated farm girl.

Lol no you aren't. To me you are very educated and I don't mean education from school. Not that I mean you didn't go to school, but more education is something within.

I get the whole pleasing to the eye thing, and not wanting to buy a house somewhere only to then have someone else buy a house and turn it into a clown house or something. Wild colors, tires cut as planters, bathtubs in the front yard with plants etc. you know what I mean and believe me I've seen it, it's not pretty. I wouldn't be at all happy if one of my neighbors did that now, but if they painted their garage doors,no matter what color, I might think better you than me, but it really doesn't effect me or my neighborhood or value at all.

I really do understand that you buy a house partially based on neighborhood and when something extremely negative happens that isn't what you bought into, but painting garage doors isn't what I would think of. I do understand the concern of the posters, I guess for me would be, if this slides what's next and when do we say enough. But the other part is, it's only garage doors.

[Wrkdhrd]

They have not violated any building standards. Just because someones color taste may not be in tune as everyone else. Who are we to criticize


THANK YOU! I think that's the point I keep trying to make but missing badly, and you've sad it in so few words.

They're retired too,bought a house n TV for the same reason as everyone else. They painted.

[Peachie]

Lol no you aren't. To me you are very educated and I don't mean education from school. Not that I mean you didn't go to school, but more education is something within.

I get the whole pleasing to the eye thing, and not wanting to buy a house somewhere only to then have someone else buy a house and turn it into a clown house or something. Wild colors, tires cut as planters, bathtubs in the front yard with plants etc. you know what I mean and believe me I've seen it, it's not pretty. I wouldn't be at all happy if one of my neighbors did that now, but if they painted their garage doors,no matter what color, I might think better you than me, but it really doesn't effect me or my neighborhood or value at all.

I really do understand that you buy a house partially based on neighborhood and when something extremely negative happens that isn't what you bought into, but painting garage doors isn't what I would think of. I do understand the concern of the posters, I guess for me would be, if this slides what's next and when do we say enough. But the other part is, it's only garage doors.

It's only garage doors unless they're directly across the street from your living room or kitchen window and the doors are painted fluorescent orange or green... remember no limits! It could get really ugly if you're one of those unfortunate people with neighbor issues and they want to antagonize you.

[Wrkdhrd]

They have not violated any building standards. Just because someones color taste may not be in tune as everyone else. Who are we to criticize

It's only garage doors unless they're directly across the street from your living room or kitchen window and the doors are painted fluorescent orange or green... remember no limits! It could get really ugly if you're one of those unfortunate people with neighbor issues and they want to antagonize you.

Yes I understand that I do. And no I wouldn't like fluorescent anything. But I guess more live and let live and you can only antagonize me if I allow it,I don't. I do believe,as I have said many times, in a civilized society. Manners, don't hurt others etc. but does that mean you give up the right to let others hurt you? Maybe you don't like fluorescent colors, I certainly don't, but is what I like more important than what some else likes within civilized manner behavior?

[vj1213]

If you go to LSL and drive past the back parking lot of the sales center toward Lake Sumter on Lake Shore Drive, you will see on your right the Lake Shore Cottages. The very last house they have been remodeling is yellow with a red door and red garage door. I think it is a quite cute.
Just because someone does something differently than what I feel is appropriate doesn't mean that they have bad taste. I think we should be more considerate before posting about a neighbor and announcing that we are calling the review board. You never know they could be lurking here too. I think it would tend to stir up a lot of bad feelings in a neighborhood.
Now before everyone pounces on me...I'm not saying if someone is really breaking the covenants that they shouldn't be reported. I am saying don't post you did it on a website.

[TexaninVA]

>>>>>>>............The significance of a Red Door............<<<<<<<

Colonial Americans .....( and direct decendents ).......this is a "safe haven".
...............................( this home brings good luck and a warm welcome ).

To Catholics......................................... ...........signifies "Blood of Christ".
.................................................. ...........................( divine protection ).
...................most Federal courts allow as freedom of Religious expression .

Some (esp. Scottish & Poles).......................when mortgage is paid-in-full.

According to the United States Supreme Court...(regarding The First Amendment)...
............This freedom is "the matrix",-- The indispensable condition of nearly every
other form of freedom. Without it, other fundamental rights, like the right to vote,
would wither and die.

First amendment protection is not limited to "pure speech". It also protects
"symbolic speech"--nonverbal expression whose purpose is to communicate ideas.

I think you missed the point made by the OP. It's not a first amendment issue, but rather abiding by the spirit (if not the letter) of the rules we all sign up for.

It's also a matter of poor taste in decorating ... a red garage door?

[TexaninVA]

I'm getting a little worried. A neighbor two doors down just painted their front door and garage door barn red. About three culdesacs away, they painted their trim Forrest green. I am worried that people will start painting their homes, doors, trim and what ever else they can, all kinds of colors. With the homes so close, I think the neighborhoods will start to look like a circus town with all different colors. The reason we moved here is because we like the simplicity and class of the neighborhoods and how pleasing to the eye all of the homes are. I know each to their own but this is not the type of area to express your personal taste in such a bold way. Is anyone else thinking about this?

I agree and think you make an excellent point. I see in a later post that the "authorities" are looking to plug the current loophole regarding exterior paint colors. I hope they can do this in a reasonably quick manner.

Directly related to your post, someone else told me this morning that the red garage doors started a buzz "at the pool" where a number of people said "hey, if they can paint their garage door red, maybe I can paint my college colors on my garage door? (apparently seriously vs in jest unfortunately).

The green trim house (which is horrible looking) popped up a few weeks after the red garage doors. Thus, there's a slow leakage in standards which hopefully can be bucked up by the AAC. In Largo, for example, there are now several "pumpkin orange" houses ... which are TRULY ugly, and which further proves the potential for poor taste is apparently unquenchable... which is the reason for standards in the first place.

We all knew what we were signing up for regarding deed restrictions, and some level of compatibility regarding exterior paint colors ... implied even if not explicit. The standards also helps preserve and protect our property values. Red garage doors, dark green trim and pumpkin orange exteriors, to cite three existing examples, lower our values -- not the opposite.

[gomoho]

Taste or preference we cannot measure, one man's junk is another man's treasure!

[twinklesweep]

They just wanted to minimize the chances of drunks coming home to the wrong house.:1rotfl:

Funny ... but possibly not so funny! Wasn't there a story a short while back about a man shot dead by the lady of the house, and it turned out that late at night he had accidentally come into the wrong house which was identical to his own which was a block away? It sounded true at the time....

[kagney123]

Can you help me choose? I am leaning towards the jumbo jet.

LOL I love the horse...

https://www.google.com/search?q=garage+door+covers+decals&sa=X&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS239&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=uQI7UqmxGYTa8ASyvoCAAQ&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1600&bih=759&dpr=1#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=fZxdV5v2OrOAjM%3A%3BQ19y5F_KL2tAGM%3Bhttp%25 3A%252F%252Fwww.joe-ks.com%252Farchives_mar2010%252FGarageDoorArt_A.jp g%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.joe-ks.com%252Farchives_mar2010%252FGarageDoorArt.htm% 3B560%3B375

I love these!! the horse is my favorite

[asianthree]

but a red door keeps out unwanted souls

[Barefoot]

Quote:
Originally Posted by elevatorman View Post
Can you help me choose? I am leaning towards the jumbo jet.

LOL I love the horse...

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...tm%3B560%3B375
I love these!! the horse is my favorite

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I like the elephant myself. If you want to get your neighbor's attention, the garage door with the stripper pole would probably work for you. :throwtomatoes:

[Happinow]

I love these!! the horse is my favorite

Those are very entertaining.
One big difference.....they are removable! They would make a cute joke.

[mrsyarbie]

My front door and shutters are red and they were colors I was offered and chosen from TV when we built our home. I live in that same neighborhood as the two homes and the dark muted shade of red on that garage door will fade quickly with our Florida sun, I also saw the green trim on the other neighbors house, It is a small amount of the trim on the front and the rest of us living here in our area who have to look at it daily ( who I have spoken to) think it looks very nice. Both of these folks that person is speaking about are new residents, lets make them feel welcome . The rest of you should not pass judgement unless you have actualy come by to look at the "examples" she has talked about. I am sure if these new neighbors are on this blog they will be very hurt and it makes us all sound like we are very judgmental....

[Villages PL]

I'm getting a little worried. A neighbor two doors down just painted their front door and garage door barn red. About three culdesacs away, they painted their trim Forrest green. I am worried that people will start painting their homes, doors, trim and what ever else they can, all kinds of colors. With the homes so close, I think the neighborhoods will start to look like a circus town with all different colors. The reason we moved here is because we like the simplicity and class of the neighborhoods and how pleasing to the eye all of the homes are. I know each to their own but this is not the type of area to express your personal taste in such a bold way. Is anyone else thinking about this?

I think you have good reason to worry that the trend might spread. Can you imagine living directly across the street from a bright red garage door? I would call community standards and complain about it.

Note: I live in a patio villa and the rule, I believe, is that house colors must stay the same as when they were built. When I had my roof reshingled, they wouldn't even allow a slightly different shade of color. I was told it must be exactly the same color. Well, I didn't mind, I was just worried that the roofer might show up with the wrong color and make the house look bad.

[patfla06]

Our house is in Gilchrist and sometimes it's hard to pick out your house.
I was thinking about planting a flowering bush to help.
I don't mind front doors painted but the garage door?
Why would you want that to stand out?

[rdhdleo]

Just my opinion but I like to see people spruce up their homes with a little color. Loved the one I have seen so far! I don't like houses that blend into one another . We're restricted enough as it is. Let people make their house their home. Aren't there more important things to worry about? We live in a wonderful place, start having fun!