Highway Robbery

[Warren Kiefer]

Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

[Barefoot]

Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

We live in that area and I've often seen kids at the Bellvedere Library, and I've seen them walking through the tunnel to get to Southern Trace Plaza. I presume they cross CR 466 as well. It's a School Zone ..... no reason to speed when the lights are flashing!

[bkcunningham1]

I have been there many, many times in the afternoon when school is letting out. I see lots of high school-aged kids crossing 466 on foot. Also, the lower speed limit and designated school zone helps reduce accidents with the hundreds of extra vehicles in the area before and after school. There are no buses at The Villages Charter Schools so there are many extra vehicles in the area of the school complex. It is a reminder to slow down and drive safely.

[quirky3]

If you think the posted speed limit is inapproporiate, you can go through normal channels to try to get it changed. In the meantime, people who choose to exceed the posted limit accept the risk of being fined. No "highway robbery" involved.

[twinklesweep]

Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

From your posting, I can't tell how much time you spend monitoring the pedestrian traffic (including schoolchildren) across CR-466 near the high school and the library; if it's about the same amount of time as the rest of us, then it's certainly possible that YOU "have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built," but this doesn't mean that it doesn't happen—and happen a lot!

Meantime, as far as a "cash cow" is concerned, there is no cash cow for whatever governmental agency is responsible for enforcing the speed limit restrictions, so long as we obey the speed limit! Kind of a simple solution, wouldn't you say? I remember years ago reading one person's posting on the subject in which she swore that she was specifically targeted as a snowbird (that is, based on the out-of-state tags on her vehicle). Never once did she consider the possibility that SHE was in any way responsible for that ticket by virtue of her choosing to speed through that school zone....

[Bogie Shooter]

Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

What is a "lot of tickets"?

[billethkid]

there are always kids walking along the area of the schools....a school ZONE is a school ZONE.......slow down and enjoy the scenery.

btk

[DougB]

Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

If even one child crosses 466 in the area you are referring, then yes the 20 MPH zone is necessary. They can't write a ticket if you stay under the speed limit.

[buggyone]

I wonder if the OP got handed one of the speeding tickets in the school zone?

Personally, I slow down to the 20 mph. Whole lot cheaper to slow down and take a few extra minutes than to pay that speeding in a school zone ticket.

[graciegirl]

From your posting, I can't tell how much time you spend monitoring the pedestrian traffic (including schoolchildren) across CR-466 near the high school and the library; if it's about the same amount of time as the rest of us, then it's certainly possible that YOU "have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built," but this doesn't mean that it doesn't happen—and happen a lot!

Meantime, as far as a "cash cow" is concerned, there is no cash cow for whatever governmental agency is responsible for enforcing the speed limit restrictions, so long as we obey the speed limit! Kind of a simple solution, wouldn't you say? I remember years ago reading one person's posting on the subject in which she swore that she was specifically targeted as a snowbird (that is, based on the out-of-state tags on her vehicle). Never once did she consider the possibility that SHE was in any way responsible for that ticket by virtue of her choosing to speed through that school zone....

I agree with Twinklesweep.

I have lived to see every tenet I have ever believed in questioned.

It is a school zone. Kids. Slow down. Simple. Easy peasy. Chill.

Your headers are attention getting, I'll give you that.

[redwitch]

Simple solution -- go down Wedgewood and skip 466 during school zone hours if it's that much of an issue to you.

[BobnBev]

Kudos to the Deputy writing the tickets. 20 MPH MEANS
20 MPH. Not 22 or 25. He just might have saved a kids life today.:thumbup:

[PaPaLarry]

I don't believe this is a "cash cow" per say. I myself, have seen children crossing 466, but also keep in mind, that Umpteen cars come and go from the school area, (with children in them) daily, and we need to protect and make sure safety is what we are looking at. I have no problem, driving 20 miles per hour (for the short stretch) if this is what it takes to protect our children.

[butterfly sue]

Same old story - Why the rush? The school zone doesn't last but a few blocks.

[janmcn]

It is the state law in Florida and most every state in the country.

[karostay]

Wish the Villages were treated as a school zone.

[hoganth]

I myself have seen children present in that school zone area, also have seen occasional speeders who either ignore the flashing lights or just not paying attention.

[nitehawk]

Whats the hurry we are retired --- do 20 mph - no matter where you are --- do 5 mph on golf course. or walk very very slow

[keithwand]

Could be worse. In Winter Park, FL the school zone is 15.
My wife got a ticket for doing 20 and it was 5P!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I'm always amazed by all these people that see the police all over the place with radar. I drive quite a bit around here and I can't remember the last time I saw a law enforcement officer with a radar gun.
I'm sure that they are out there occasionally, but I haven't seen them. Usually communities have police go to spots with radar guns because there have been several accidents or they have received complaints from residents of the area that people are speeding. They don't pick these sites randomly.

[DonH57]

I'm always amazed by all these people that see the police all over the place with radar. I drive quite a bit around here and I can't remember the last time I saw a law enforcement officer with a radar gun.
I'm sure that they are out there occasionally, but I haven't seen them. Usually communities have police go to spots with radar guns because there have been several accidents or they have received complaints from residents of the area that people are speeding. They don't pick these sites randomly.

I agree. I've never see all these radar guns out either. More than likely they have areas they deem neccessary to hit and I believe strongly school zones should be of high priority. I can think of a couple areas they should hit in TV. I really don't understand what the hurry is.

[golf2140]

Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

Warren, how about a happy post some day??????

[Happydaz]

What is a "lot of tickets"?

"A lot of tickets" is when you get one.

[Warren Kiefer]

From your posting, I can't tell how much time you spend monitoring the pedestrian traffic (including schoolchildren) across CR-466 near the high school and the library; if it's about the same amount of time as the rest of us, then it's certainly possible that YOU "have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built," but this doesn't mean that it doesn't happen�and happen a lot!

Meantime, as far as a "cash cow" is concerned, there is no cash cow for whatever governmental agency is responsible for enforcing the speed limit restrictions, so long as we obey the speed limit! Kind of a simple solution, wouldn't you say? I remember years ago reading one person's posting on the subject in which she swore that she was specifically targeted as a snowbird (that is, based on the out-of-state tags on her vehicle). Never once did she consider the possibility that SHE was in any way responsible for that ticket by virtue of her choosing to speed through that school zone....

I accept your answer about the children, but the majority of those times when I pass thru the school zones is when school is beginning and the children are being dropped off at the school entrance. I do have to stand by my words, I personally have never seen a child in the vicinity of the highway.

[Warren Kiefer]

What is a "lot of tickets"?

Your question is similiar to "how high is the sky" A "lot" to me means that every time I pass the school zones, it seems someone is being pulled over. Perhaps in the afternoon when school dismisses there would be children present near the highway, but at the beginning of school. I would challenge you to observe any children at all near the highway, but nevertheless the county deputies are out there with their radar.

[Warren Kiefer]

there are always kids walking along the area of the schools....a school ZONE is a school ZONE.......slow down and enjoy the scenery.

btk

Your statement is not valid, If you diagree, I hope you will go to the school zones in the morning as school begins and report back how many children you saw within 100 feet of the highway. Kid, I will wait on your response.

[Bogie Shooter]

Your question is similiar to "how high is the sky" A "lot" to me means that every time I pass the school zones, it seems someone is being pulled over. Perhaps in the afternoon when school dismisses there would be children present near the highway, but at the beginning of school. I would challenge you to observe any children at all near the highway, but nevertheless the county deputies are out there with their radar.

No need to challenge me...............you just said "a lot" and I wanted to know what that meant to you.

[Warren Kiefer]

From your posting, I can't tell how much time you spend monitoring the pedestrian traffic (including schoolchildren) across CR-466 near the high school and the library; if it's about the same amount of time as the rest of us, then it's certainly possible that YOU "have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built," but this doesn't mean that it doesn't happen�and happen a lot!

Meantime, as far as a "cash cow" is concerned, there is no cash cow for whatever governmental agency is responsible for enforcing the speed limit restrictions, so long as we obey the speed limit! Kind of a simple solution, wouldn't you say? I remember years ago reading one person's posting on the subject in which she swore that she was specifically targeted as a snowbird (that is, based on the out-of-state tags on her vehicle). Never once did she consider the possibility that SHE was in any way responsible for that ticket by virtue of her choosing to speed through that school zone....

Your post is well written but contains one minor mistake. Some counties do create "cash cows" in the form of speed traps. In North Central Florida a small town named WALDO created a cash cow speed trap that wat so outragous that the State of Florida erected warning signs that specifically warned of "speed trap'.. The tickets even being written today are the town's main source of revenue. Anyway, it just doesn't seem right that after it appears that school has began, the deputies are on the site stillo using radar.

[DougB]

Your question is similiar to "how high is the sky" ........

the point of this question is that it depends on what you define as "sky"

if it's wherever there's air, then there are mines like the East Rand mine that are roughly 10,000 ft deep. So the answer would be -10,000 ft. maybe less.

if sky = atmosphere, then it's maximum height is the upper limit of the upper atmosphere (the exosphere), then the answer would be "between 10,000 feet below sea level and less than 6215 miles above sea level".

if it's what you can see when you look up, it's less than the distance from the earth to the edge of the universe = 46.5 billion light years.

can you touch the sky? yes .
Can you kiss the sky? Only Jimi can do that.


Your turn. What is "a lot"?

[Warren Kiefer]

Simple solution -- go down Wedgewood and skip 466 during school zone hours if it's that much of an issue to you.

You seem to have missed the point once again. The question has little to do with me personally. It has to do with school zones when children are not present.

[Warren Kiefer]

Wish the Villages were treated as a school zone.

I have a 15 MPH speed limit on my street.

[Warren Kiefer]

I'm always amazed by all these people that see the police all over the place with radar. I drive quite a bit around here and I can't remember the last time I saw a law enforcement officer with a radar gun.
I'm sure that they are out there occasionally, but I haven't seen them. Usually communities have police go to spots with radar guns because there have been several accidents or they have received complaints from residents of the area that people are speeding. They don't pick these sites randomly.

You're kidding, right ??? Just in the past three days I have seen radar at the school zones and twice on Beuna Vista. You mut leave the house to make these observances.

[bkcunningham1]

I may see your point, Warren Kiefer. Perhaps it would be better if the school zone had the flashing lights that enacts the speed limit during specific times. Do you think that perhaps it would be better than just having a posted 20 mph "school zone" speed limit when school is no in session or when they aren't dismissing or admitting students? I see that in many locations. Isn't there a flashing sign like that on Rolling Acres for the Lady Lake Elementary School? Plus, there are police officers directing traffic on Rolling Acres.

[Warren Kiefer]

I agree. I've never see all these radar guns out either. More than likely they have areas they deem neccessary to hit and I believe strongly school zones should be of high priority. I can think of a couple areas they should hit in TV. I really don't understand what the hurry is.

The radar is not in the form of "radar guns" it is a dash mounted devise that can be operating all the time from any patrol car.

[Warren Kiefer]

Warren, how about a happy post some day??????

It is nearly impossible to get a conversation on happy postings. For example; What if I submitted a posting regarding the outstanding golf game I had last week, or that I won $20 for closest to the pin. You get the drift ???:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause::BigAppl ause::BigApplause:

[Warren Kiefer]

No need to challenge me...............you just said "a lot" and I wanted to know what that meant to you.

How about 13, is that a good answer.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[Warren Kiefer]

the point of this question is that it depends on what you define as "sky"

if it's wherever there's air, then there are mines like the East Rand mine that are roughly 10,000 ft deep. So the answer would be -10,000 ft. maybe less.

if sky = atmosphere, then it's maximum height is the upper limit of the upper atmosphere (the exosphere), then the answer would be "between 10,000 feet below sea level and less than 6215 miles above sea level".

if it's what you can see when you look up, it's less than the distance from the earth to the edge of the universe = 46.5 billion light years.

can you touch the sky? yes .
Can you kiss the sky? Only Jimi can do that.


Your turn. What is "a lot"?


You are one really funny Dude. I love it !!!!!:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

[Warren Kiefer]

You are one really funny Dude. I love it !!!!!:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

I might add that a lot can mean many different things, A single stone in your shoe is a lot,; a zillion stars in the sky, still a lot ;two pokes in the eye, still a lot, ; ten bee stings, still a lot,; a hundred bee stings really a lot, falling down six stairs , still a lot,; falling down twenty stairs, the same, a lot : LOL

[Warren Kiefer]

I may see your point, Warren Kiefer. Perhaps it would be better if the school zone had the flashing lights that enacts the speed limit during specific times. Do you think that perhaps it would be better than just having a posted 20 mph "school zone" speed limit when school is no in session or when they aren't dismissing or admitting students? I see that in many locations. Isn't there a flashing sign like that on Rolling Acres for the Lady Lake Elementary School? Plus, there are police officers directing traffic on Rolling Acres.

Thanks Heavens for someone who agrees even a little. My final thought is : I like what some communities do. They have county deputies get their butts out of their cars, and stand in the roadway in front of the schools as they direct and slow traffic. Doesn't this sound better than having flashing lights and :BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:a couple of deputies sitting in their cars????? I truly believe this system is much more effective.

[DonH57]

The radar is not in the form of "radar guns" it is a dash mounted devise that can be operating all the time from any patrol car.

Thanks for the update on the equipment used by SCSO. Next time I'll know to ignore the deputy pointing that boxy looking thing at me on morse blvd. I foolishly rechecked my speed too. What a dumbass I was.

[GaryW]

A School Zone is a School one no matter where it is located. Some people will complain about anything. Not only does it protect any child that needed to be around that area but also all the congestion from parents dropping kids off. Slow the traffic down around any school. We had SCSO at our Plant Safety Meeting. The Deputy was telling us about a driver they stopped on 466 in the School Zone. 58 in 20. Even if not School Zone that is speeding. Kidding Me Right...

[Wing-nut2]

If you don't speed . . . . there's no problem!

[eremite06]

If you don't speed . . . . there's no problem!

:agree:

[redwitch]

Hey! I speed. You should have seen me when my grandson was airlifted to Orlando and we had no clue what his injuries, if any, were. I made it from Hemingway to Arnold Palmer in 38 minutes. (BTW -- I did have a NASCAR license in my younger days.)

Normally, I will drive as fast as conditions permit regardless of the actual speed limit. If I get pulled over, I'll accept my lecture or ticket since I know it was my choice to not go the speed limit. At the same time, I'll happily slow down in heavy rain and fog and have no problems when other cars pass me (except to shake my head in disbelief that they would be so foolish). I go 20 mph in school zones. Period.

There is no question that there are speed traps in this country. They are a way for communities to add money to their coffers. However, I have no issue with radar guns in school zones, whether or not kids walk there. Dropping off kids in vehicles means heavier traffic. Sometimes kids will jump out of a car long before they should to get to class on time (my daughter was known to get out to get away from my singing to certain songs). If it takes tickets to get the message across that it is a school zone and they must slow down, then let the tickets flow.

[capecodbob]

Hey! I speed. You should have seen me when my grandson was airlifted to Orlando and we had no clue what his injuries, if any, were. I made it from Hemingway to Arnold Palmer in 38 minutes. (BTW -- I did have a NASCAR license in my younger days.)

Normally, I will drive as fast as conditions permit regardless of the actual speed limit. If I get pulled over, I'll accept my lecture or ticket since I know it was my choice to not go the speed limit. At the same time, I'll happily slow down in heavy rain and fog and have no problems when other cars pass me (except to shake my head in disbelief that they would be so foolish). I go 20 mph in school zones. Period.

There is no question that there are speed traps in this country. They are a way for communities to add money to their coffers. However, I have no issue with radar guns in school zones, whether or not kids walk there. Dropping off kids in vehicles means heavier traffic. Sometimes kids will jump out of a car long before they should to get to class on time (my daughter was known to get out to get away from my singing to certain songs). If it takes tickets to get the message across that it is a school zone and they must slow down, then let the tickets flow.

Last winter I did 25mph in my golf cart. At least that's what the speedometer showed. There were no other carts on the trail so I didn't get to "fly by" one of those slow-pokes going 15... :popcorn:
But to stay on the subject:
Warren, you seem like a great guy and I kinda see your point. But we all need to "throttle back" a little and shut off the afterburners. It was not easy for me, coming from New England. I thought there was something wrong with my middle finger when I got to TV. Three months went by and I hadn't use it. I thought...will it fall off from not being used? I still have it (just in case) haha!
Bob

[perrjojo]

It is nearly impossible to get a conversation on happy postings. For example; What if I submitted a posting regarding the outstanding golf game I had last week, or that I won $20 for closest to the pin. You get the drift ???:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause::BigAppl ause::BigApplause:

So you really don't believe this is highway robbery? You just want to get a lot of folks blood pressure up!

[golf2140]

Not sure how the fine money is split up in Florida. In Pennsylvania, before I retired the town received $12.50 of a paid traffic fine. Half of the citations issued, the drivers asked for a hearing. Officer attended the hearing received 4 hours overtime, appoximately $150.00. As you can see it actually cost Pennsylvania towns money to issue citations. No cash cow there !!!!!!!!!

[looneycat]

Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

people who obey the limit don't get tickets so I'd say that the tickets are probably justified....it is just a short distance after all!

[janmcn]

On the subject of speeding tickets, did you know in Florida, since July 1, 2013, you can be ticketed for driving too slow if you are in the "passing" lane and driving slower than the posted speed limit by 10 mph or more. The fine is $60.

The only exceptions to the new law is if you are making a left turn or overtaking another vehicle. The new law is House Bill 7125.

[OpusX1]

I don't know about Florida but here in Ohio if no children are present irregardless of the flashing lights the regular speed limits are in effect. Like the Friday after thanksgiving no kids, lights flashing, regular speed limit. Also be aware that all of Belvedere from the gate to 466 is a school zone during posted hours. No flashing lights. I do see many kids crossing to get to the library.

[e-flyer]

Yep, deputy was sitting across from the High School this afternoon around 2:30pm. Had the hand held radar gun pointed out his window at all who passed by. It's simple, go the speed limit and you won't get a ticket. If you are in a hurry, find an alternate route.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

You're kidding, right ??? Just in the past three days I have seen radar at the school zones and twice on Beuna Vista. You mut leave the house to make these observances.

No, I'm not kidding. I leave the house quite often, at least every day, in both my golf cart and my car and I don't think that I've ever seen LEOs with radar around here.

In fact, I got through that school zone at least twice a week.

[Warren Kiefer]

I don't know about Florida but here in Ohio if no children are present irregardless of the flashing lights the regular speed limits are in effect. Like the Friday after thanksgiving no kids, lights flashing, regular speed limit. Also be aware that all of Belvedere from the gate to 466 is a school zone during posted hours. No flashing lights. I do see many kids crossing to get to the library.

I don't under the two replys about kids going to the library. The entire quote wa about school zones on Route 466. Are you saying kids are crossing Route 466 and if so, which library ??

I still like the idea of the deputies getting out of their cars, without the radar and standing in the actual roadway, This accomplishes everything, traffic control for any kids crossing the highway, it will also definately slow traffic and the best part is that no one get a ticket and finally the deputies get a little much needed exercise. This is how it is done near the Daily Sun facility and it :a040::a040::a040:works exceedingly well.

[GaryW]

The kids use the sidewalks on 466 by Buffalo Glenn Softball Complex. Regardless it is school zone. Speed limits are for everyone safety in those zones. Why the commotion, relax, have some coffee, do the speed limit and you have no problems...

That is like saying the speed limit on B.Vista is 35. But it should be 45, so why do the SCSO patrol that so much north of 466. It is what it is.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.1895.html)

Florida School Zones (http://www.dmvflorida.org/school-zone.shtml)

[babbs455]

A school zone is just that a school zone...even if the kids are not crossing there it is still a zone..been that way for ever...it works until you get some yahoo trying to buck the system when they are late for something bobbing and weaving thru the line...obey the limits, obey the signs and that radar gun will stay off you!

[Barefoot]

Also be aware that all of Belvedere from the gate to 466 is a school zone during posted hours. No flashing lights. I do see many kids crossing to get to the library.

I don't under the two replys about kids going to the library. The entire quote wa about school zones on Route 466. Are you saying kids are crossing Route 466 and if so, which library ?

Opus stated that all of Belvedere from CR 466 to the Gate is also a school zone with kids crossing (Belvedere) to get to the Library.

Warren, I think the overwhelming consensus is that drivers in the vicinity of the Charter School should slow down, obey the laws, and keep the kids safe!

[dsned]

I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

[rubicon]

Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

Warren: I have read all of the posts and despite all the intellectualizing the fact is that the cops do stand heavy here. I saw a guy chased by the cops just the other day. You are also correct in that for the greater portion of the school zone you will not find kids crossing yet the school zone stretches quite a ways.

finally Warren by now you should have recognized that TOTV has the Gang of the politically correct and as such they always default to PC if they view it as a slight toward The Villages . Please don't get mad at them its an involuntary reaction.

[nitehawk]

:bigbow:I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

[graciegirl]

:bigbow:
Boy Howdy.

I can't remember if there were school zone signs when me and Martha Washington walked to school, or even cars, but I think that slowing down in the area where schools are is a good idea, just to practice a little self control.

I can't see how agreeing with that idea would be politically correct or incorrect. It is a rule. Follow it. OR

Book'em Danno!

[dillywho]

What is wrong with going the speed limit everywhere? They are posted limits, not suggestions. If you are late, then just be late and plan to leave earlier next time. "Lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on everyone else", as my boss used to say when the engineers would turn in paperwork for revision on an emergency basis.

[Bogie Shooter]

I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

Oh, the good old days..................................

[Bogie Shooter]

I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

You really believe this? Really?

[nitehawk]

:BigApplause::BigApplause:I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

[graciegirl]

You really believe this? Really?

Some people are just born contrary Bogie. We get annoyed on this forum with their negativity, but imagine what their spouses have to deal with 24/7.

[golf2140]

Some people are just born contrary Bogie. We get annoyed on this forum with their negativity, but imagine what their spouses have to deal with 24/7.

:sing::sing::sing::sing::sing:

[CFrance]

Boy Howdy.

I can't remember if there were school zone signs when me and Martha Washington walked to school, or even cars, but I think that slowing down in the area where schools are is a good idea, just to practice a little self control.

I can't see how agreeing with that idea would be politically correct or incorrect. It is a rule. Follow it. OR

Book'em Danno!

You and Martha and Dolly Madison and I didn't have flashing school zone lights because we had crossing guards. Eventually automation took over, most guards left, and flashing lights are not getting the job done. Hence the radar guns. And no doubt it's a cash cow, but why not if it's going to keep the kids safer. I see kids up there crossing frequently. If one kid up there got hurt, there would be hue and cry on TOTV re police not doing their job.

[DougB]

I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

You didn't need school zones in your day. Model Ts only went so fast

[Shimpy]

You didn't need school zones in your day. Model Ts only went so fast

School zones are restricted to 20 MPH, but my neighborhood streets are 15 MPH. I guess that says that us old folks aren't as good as little kids at crossing the street.

[red tail]

Some people are just born contrary Bogie. We get annoyed on this forum with their negativity, but imagine what their spouses have to deal with 24/7.

well said!

[donb9006]

You didn't need school zones in your day. Model Ts only went so fast

They could go 45mph.

[DougB]

School zones are restricted to 20 MPH, but my neighborhood streets are 15 MPH. I guess that says that us old folks aren't as good as little kids at crossing the street.

That's probably true.