A Mystery To Me

[DianeM]

Could someone please explain to me why people feel compelled to put their trash and recycling out BEFORE NOON on the eve of pick up day. It looks so lovely to see their trash out there baking in the sun on a Sunday afternoon. NOT!!

[asianthree]

we do if we are leaving to go out of town...but usually late the night before trash pickup

[NotGolfer]

Might be folks who rent or are here just for the weekend. When we're going to be gone and miss the pick-up we have a neighbor set ours out for us.

Not only is it baking in the sun when they do this BUT "critters" can come and dig in it as well.

[DianeM]

If going away - sure you'd out it out early. But, all the time is ugly. You're right about critters. Hadn't gone that far in thinking about it.

[Villages PL]

Could someone please explain to me why people feel compelled to put their trash and recycling out BEFORE NOON on the eve of pick up day. It looks so lovely to see their trash out there baking in the sun on a Sunday afternoon. NOT!!

In yesterday's Daily Sun (09-21-13) there was a big article on the front page of the Lifestyle Section. It was about Alzheimer's Disease and it stated that by age 65, about 1 out of 8 people have Alzheimer's. Many at that age may be newly diagnosed or not yet diagnosed. By age 85, half of all seniors have Alzheimer's. And there are other forms of dementia too.

So here's what may be happening in some cases. Either they have forgotten what day it gets picked up, or they know but have to put the garbage out when they first think about it, lest they forget if they put it off 'til later.

[pooh]

Another question.....if a neighbor asked you or any one of you to take their trash bag and then put it out t the appropriate tme, would you?

[zcaveman]

Another question.....if a neighbor asked you or any one of you to take their trash bag and then put it out t the appropriate tme, would you?

I have been asked and I have always done it.

Z

[downeaster]

Another question.....if a neighbor asked you or any one of you to take their trash bag and then put it out t the appropriate tme, would you?

I am not sure if I am "any one of you", but it is a common occurrence on our street. We also pick up neighbors' newspapers and deposit them at their front doors or hold them for their return. The same goes for POA bulletins, lawn treatment signs, etc.

[Pepperhead]

Could someone please explain to me why people feel compelled to put their trash and recycling out BEFORE NOON on the eve of pick up day. It looks so lovely to see their trash out there baking in the sun on a Sunday afternoon. NOT!!

I can only think of three reasons. Ignorance, arrogance, or necessity.

[graciegirl]

I don't pay attention to stuff like that.

[ilovetv]

I've seen it done regularly by a couple of neighbors and they surely don't have Alzheimers.

They seem to be of the rigid, inflexible type of people who think early mornings are the only time appropriate for doing work and chores (and all other activities).

I think they go to bed by 7:00 p.m., too.

[Halle]

Another question.....if a neighbor asked you or any one of you to take their trash bag and then put it out t the appropriate tme, would you?

Yes I would and have and they have also done the same for me.

:highfive:

[pooh]

We also do the same for our neighbor when they make one of their visits to their home here.

I figured that all of us would extend that kindness to their neighbors. Have actually had some take the trash bags in till closer to pick up time for neighbors who have left early and not asked to have the trash taken care of.

[DianeM]

Another question.....if a neighbor asked you or any one of you to take their trash bag and then put it out t the appropriate tme, would you?

Sure why not?

[DianeM]

I can only think of three reasons. Ignorance, arrogance, or necessity.

:agree::agree:

[DianeM]

I've seen it done regularly by a couple of neighbors and they surely don't have Alzheimers.

They seem to be of the rigid, inflexible type of people who think early mornings are the only time appropriate for doing work and chores (and all other activities).

I think they go to bed by 7:00 p.m., too.

Then they can put their trash out at 6:00 before retiring.

[mrdarcy]

I don't sweat the small stuff. Yeah, it's an annoyance, but not a big one in the grand scheme of things. There are a lot of annoying people in he world and some of them live here in The Villages.

[bkcunningham1]

I have a bag of food in my freezer for a neighbor who is a snowbird. We put out trash for neighbors, pick up mail, visit them in the hospital, take deliveries, cry with them and rejoice with them...we are friends. If they put their trash out the evening before the trash runs in the morning, I don't give it a second thought. It is just a reminder that they are there and all is well in their world.

[memason]

The mystery to me is why people complain about such mundane issues...

There's always something :(

[DianeM]

I agree with being neighborly and helping - that's a given. And putting trash out in the evening before the pickup is a given as well. But .... there is no reason for putting out your trash the morning of the day before the next pickup time after time. It's rude and makes the areas look nasty.

[DianeM]

The mystery to me is why people complain about such mundane issues...

There's always something :(

Yes it's minor but makes areas look nasty and another example of people not following the minor rules that are in place to benefit everyone.

[ilovetv]

The mystery to me is why people complain about such mundane issues...

There's always something :(

Hot, smoldering stinky trash is a problem, especially when animals get into the bags. If we had roll-out designated dumpsters as many cities do, it would be okay to put it out early.

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes it's minor but makes areas look nasty and another example of people not following the minor rules that are in place to benefit everyone.

Where is it written?

[Bogie Shooter]

Hot, smoldering stinky trash is a problem, especially when animals get into the bags. If we had roll-out designated dumpsters as many cities do, it would be okay to put it out early.

And then there would be complaints about those damn dumpsters always sitting in the street.................lets not even think of going there.

[buggyone]

Could someone please explain to me why people feel compelled to put their trash and recycling out BEFORE NOON on the eve of pick up day. It looks so lovely to see their trash out there baking in the sun on a Sunday afternoon. NOT!!

I regularly use my golf cart on the streets on Sunday around noon or 1 pm for a few miles and have never seen garbage bags put outside for Monday morning. I see it beginning around 6 pm and usually take mine out by 10 pm on Sunday.

With all the raccoons, possums, crows, and coyotes in the area, I have yet to see bags torn open in the morning. I find this strange.

[DianeM]

:Hot, smoldering stinky trash is a problem, especially when animals get into the bags. If we had roll-out designated dumpsters as many cities do, it would be okay to put it out early.

:agree:

[DianeM]

Where is it written?

I believe it's called common courtesy

[DianeM]

I regularly use my golf cart on the streets on Sunday around noon or 1 pm for a few miles and have never seen garbage bags put outside for Monday morning. I see it beginning around 6 pm and usually take mine out by 10 pm on Sunday.

With all the raccoons, possums, crows, and coyotes in the area, I have yet to see bags torn open in the morning. I find this strange.

Try riding around Gilchrist or Sanibel on a Sunday morning. Lots of folks put their trash out then.

[buggyone]

Try riding around Gilchrist or Sanibel on a Sunday morning. Lots of folks put their trash out then.

I don't go there! Too far away. I would have to remember my passport, get a visa, and shots.:throwtomatoes:

[DougB]

Try riding around Gilchrist or Sanibel on a Sunday morning. Lots of folks put their trash out then.

Well, you know how them Southerners are!

[ilovetv]

And then there would be complaints about those damn dumpsters always sitting in the street.................lets not even think of going there.

I didn't mean we should get them, just that they look better than bunches of varying bags of trash sitting out there, and the rollout canisters aren't subject to being torn open by animals etc.

[njbchbum]

Yes it's minor but makes areas look nasty and another example of people not following the minor rules that are in place to benefit everyone.

if your neighborhood has such deed restrictions and covenants, perhaps you can just turn them in to community watch. might not be so neighborly but it might resolve your problem.

[janmcn]

Apparently this is more of a problem in new areas as opposed to older areas, therefore it could be that new residents are not aware of the proper procedures. As I recall from years ago, it was written that 6:30pm the night before pick-up was the earliest to put your garbage out. Perhaps the Daily Sun could print an informational article.

[red tail]

Could someone please explain to me why people feel compelled to put their trash and recycling out BEFORE NOON on the eve of pick up day. It looks so lovely to see their trash out there baking in the sun on a Sunday afternoon. NOT!!

district 1 deed restriction reads:
Garbage/Trash - Some restrictions state that all garbage shall be contained in plastic bags
and placed curbside no earlier than the day before scheduled pick up as determined by the
individual solid waste hauler. Yard waste shall be contained in biodegradable paper bags. Any
large yard waste must not exceed four (4) feet in length. This criterion can change, please
check with your trash service provider.

[pooh]

I didn't mean we should get them, just that they look better than bunches of varying bags of trash sitting out there, and the rollout canisters aren't subject to being torn open by animals etc.

I disagree....the beasties are capable of knocking them over and doing what they do with trash. Have also watched them sit out for extended periods of time after trash collection. Have also watched the wind blow them down the street....I was amazed to see this the first time it happened!

Trash out in bags is removed and then there are no cans left around awaiting their return to the garage.

[rubicon]

God bless those whose biggest concern is annoyance directed at those premature in taking out the trash. The rest of us should be so lucky

[redwitch]

The mystery to me is why people complain about such mundane issues...

There's always something :(

:agree: :BigApplause: :BigApplause: :BigApplause:

[beekman]

That is the BEST reason!

[DougB]

That is the BEST reason!

Huh?

[DianeM]

I give up.

[BobnBev]

I agree with being neighborly and helping - that's a given. And putting trash out in the evening before the pickup is a given as well. But .... there is no reason for putting out your trash the morning of the day before the next pickup time after time. It's rude and makes the areas look nasty.

I don't see why a trash bag on the corner of my driveway
looks nasty. Don't be so negative.

[BobnBev]

I don't go there! Too far away. I would have to remember my passport, get a visa, and shots.:throwtomatoes:

You'd probably need shots with all the garbage floating around there.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[ilovetv]

I give up.

Ignore the mockers.

The trash sitting out there in the sun often stinks terribly. And, when there are rules and deed restrictions about things like putting out trash, it means there are concerns about it based on experience.

[DianeM]

Ignore the mockers.

The trash sitting out there in the sun often stinks terribly. And, when there are rules and deed restrictions about things like putting out trash, it means there are concerns about it based on experience.

Thank you. It was just an observation. I should remember that everything is perfect here and nothing is annoying. It's Nirvana every day with peace and love.

[casita37]

DianeM, I agree with you. However, I could have told you posting anything on here about people not obeying the "rules" would open you up to ridicule.....oh well.

I seem to recall, at our orientation meeting, going over things like clear bags for recycling, garbage out at dusk (or something like that), breaking down cardboard boxes, etc. I even called the garbage service to make sure what/when I was supposed to do. The man I talked to told me it's pretty much impossible to get the people here to do as they have been asked about the trash. People always brag about the pristine appearance of TV, then immediately decide those rules, or suggestions, don't apply to THEM. Some of our neighbors don't even use plastic bags all the time. I have seen garbage and recycling actually tied together instead of in a bag.

One of the garbage pick up guys said often the garbage and recyling are both in white, or other colored bags, including store bags. They cannot make the call as to which is which, even if they can see obviously recylable items....can't know for sure some of it isn't trash, so if not using a clear bag, it just goes in the garbage. :(

My garbage/trash always goes in a dark bag and recycling goes in a clear bag on seperate sides of the drive-way.......just as we were asked to do....and nothing goes out before dark. I feel better doing it right, but that's just me!

[DianeM]

DianeM, I agree with you. However, I could have told you posting anything on here about people not obeying the "rules" would open you up to ridicule.....oh well.

I seem to recall, at our orientation meeting, going over things like clear bags for recycling, garbage out at dusk (or something like that), breaking down cardboard boxes, etc. I even called the garbage service to make sure what/when I was supposed to do. The man I talked to told me it's pretty much impossible to get the people here to do as they have been asked about the trash. People always brag about the pristine appearance of TV, then immediately decide those rules, or suggestions, don't apply to THEM. Some of our neighbors don't even use plastic bags all the time. I have seen garbage and recycling actually tied together instead of in a bag.

One of the garbage pick up guys said often the garbage and recyling are both in white, or other colored bags, including store bags. They cannot make the call as to which is which, even if they can see obviously recylable items....can't know for sure some of it isn't trash, so if not using a clear bag, it just goes in the garbage. :(

My garbage/trash always goes in a dark bag and recycling goes in a clear bag on seperate sides of the drive-way.......just as we were asked to do....and nothing goes out before dark. I feel better doing it right, but that's just me!

Thank you. Those are the rules I was told and the rules I follow. I JUST put my trash out. I don't get it. People come here saying how clean and pristine and then don't follow the few rules given to everyone and get flipping nasty about it. I'm at a loss.

[redwitch]

No, it's not perfect here but complaining in such a negative way has a tendency to bring out the worst in us. It sounds like you're doing your best to not like TV. Look around for the good stuff -- there's a lot of it. It's easy to find things to not like, try finding the things you do like. Give TV a chance.

[ilovetv]

No, it's not perfect here but complaining in such a negative way has a tendency to bring out the worst in us. It sounds like you're doing your best to not like TV. Look around for the good stuff -- there's a lot of it. It's easy to find things to not like, try finding the things you do like. Give TV a chance.

"It sounds like you're".....but we can't see her facial expression nor the tone of her voice.

I know the mood or tone of statements often are perceived wrongly in online comments or in email, because we're not seeing the writer's facial expression and we're not hearing their tone of voice.

And often, people voice their concern/complaint on here because they are exasperated with behavior that most people would recognize as inconsiderate. In fact, the title of the thread says that: "It's a mystery to me". But some mocked her and some of us recognize that as inconsiderate.

[gomoho]

No, it's not perfect here but complaining in such a negative way has a tendency to bring out the worst in us. It sounds like you're doing your best to not like TV. Look around for the good stuff -- there's a lot of it. It's easy to find things to not like, try finding the things you do like. Give TV a chance.

Redwitch - good point, but we all have silly things that bother us and should be allowed to voice them without criticism. Don't you think???

[DianeM]

I'm not angry or disliking The Villages. Just made an observation that got nasty unnecessarily. Wouldn't anyone get defensive with that negativity? I have the same rights as anyone else to say when something annoys me but apparently that's not permitted.

[DianeM]

Redwitch - good point, but we all have silly things that bother us and should be allowed to voice them without criticism. Don't you think???

Thank you.

[bkcunningham1]

I agree with being neighborly and helping - that's a given. And putting trash out in the evening before the pickup is a given as well. But .... there is no reason for putting out your trash the morning of the day before the next pickup time after time. It's rude and makes the areas look nasty.

Well, now that is an entirely different matter.

[kittygilchrist]

I'm in Gilchrist and my neighbors put their trash out when they leave me here "alone" again after their brief vacays and go back to their jobs. They bounce in here for a few days and are gone. Their trash is out early because they didn't want to leave it in the house or carry it with them in the car.
Back when I rented for a month, I felt responsible to leave the garbage out when I left, regardless what day it would be picked up, so I understand why their garbage is there early.

[ilovetv]

I'm in Gilchrist and my neighbors put their trash out when they leave me here "alone" again after their brief vacays and go back to their jobs. They bounce in here for a few days and are gone. Their trash is out early because they didn't want to leave it in the house or carry it with them in the car.
Back when I rented for a month, I felt responsible to leave the garbage out when I left, regardless what day it would be picked up, so I understand why their garbage is there early.

Good points, and this brings up a question.

Wouldn't it be useful to have a dumpster or two for each village (fenced in and not out in the open), where we could take garbage that the garbage haulers won't pick up on the regular run, or bags that have stinky awful stuff like dog poop (oh geez...I said the words) that are awful to have smoldering in the garage for 4 days?

It would also be good for trash that the property managers and landlords bring out of a rental home after cleaning it the last day of the month and trash day is still 3 days away. It's sort of "trashy" to have somebody else's trash in the driveway for several days when a new renter or new homeowner arrives (I remember that when we came the first time to rent, and when we bought).

[CFrance]

I don't pay attention to stuff like that.

Exactly.

[billethkid]

1562 hits on this thread and 54 posts........once again taking an isolated incident and treating it as if it were a general condition and growing......which it is not......

Isn't it time for the problem solved/question answered and the padlock?

btk

[redwitch]

Good points, and this brings up a question.
It would also be good for trash that the property managers and landlords bring out of a rental home after cleaning it the last day of the month and trash day is still 3 days away. It's sort of "trashy" to have somebody else's trash in the driveway for several days when a new renter or new homeowner arrives (I remember that when we came the first time to rent, and when we bought).

Don't know about others, but when I check a home after renters leave, I take the trash home with me unless garbage pick up is the next day. Then, yes, I will leave it at the curb even if it is in the morning or the day before. To leave garbage out for more than one day is, to me, inexcusable.

[bonrich]

Post #58. 57 comments, and the trash will still be going out early on Sunday morning.

[Patty55]

Maybe they just don't know what day it is. Hey it happens.

[travelguy]

ok, a neighbor put out a mattress and boxspring. after 2 regular trash pickups both of them were still there. i call community watch and they said they would look into it. ok. then another day went by and rolls of ripped up carpeting and the foam they put under it made it way onto the pile(which was now almost 5 feet tall). the weekend came and went, and then another regular trash day came and went. and then it finally disappeared. 10 days of this....yeah. these folks also had a car with a flat tire parked with the front wheels in the gutter of the street. that was only there for 4 days.

[LynnDeb]

I don't pay attention to stuff like that.

I agree with Gracie...

[DougB]

I agree with Gracie...

I agree with LynnDeb...

[Barefoot]

I agree with Gracie...
I agree with LynnDeb...
I agree with Patty55. :popcorn:

[DougB]

I agree with Gracie...

I agree with LynnDeb...

I agree with Patty55. :popcorn:

I'm having amnesia and Deja vu at the same time. What did she say?

[kittygilchrist]

I'm having amnesia and Deja vu at the same time. What did she say?

:agree: with Dougb, or am I Gracie?

[Barefoot]

I'm having amnesia and Deja vu at the same time. What did she say?

Thread amnesia ... Losing track of the subject. Have a coffee Doug. :mornincoffee:
Whatever - I agree with Patty55 because she always speaks the truth!

[Patty55]

Ah, but can THEY handle the truth?

[patfla06]

I don't see why someone cannot have a gripe without people jumping all over them?
It's a concern about inconsiderate neighbors.
Is this not a board to express our concerns and opinions?

[Barefoot]

I don't see why someone cannot have a gripe without people jumping all over them? It's a concern about inconsiderate neighbors. Is this not a board to express our concerns and opinions?

I agree that this is a "chat room" to talk about concerns and joys. I thought that is what members were doing, expressing their opinions.

Putting out garbage early is a bit of an annoyance ... I think people were just speculating that the "wrong doers" may be travelling, or confused about the day. Or perhaps someone is sick, so their kids come over in the morning and put out the garbage for them. Of course if it's always put out early, it becomes more annoying. Perhaps offering assistance to help put it out at night might help figure out the problem.

[ilovetv]

I agree that this is a "chat room" to talk about concerns and joys. I thought that is what members were doing, expressing their opinions.

Putting out garbage early is a bit of an annoyance ... I think people were just speculating that the "wrong doers" may be travelling, or confused about the day. Or perhaps someone is sick, so their kids come over in the morning and put out the garbage for them. Of course if it's always put out early, it becomes more annoying. Perhaps offering assistance to help put it out at night might help figure out the problem.

And this can all be said as you just did, without mocking and inside "jokes" that make the o.p. feel like she's "not part of the POPULAR girls" in seventh grade.

[Villageswimmer]

Is it me or has this topic been beat to death?

[Barefoot]

And this can all be said as you just did, without mocking and inside "jokes" that make the o.p. feel like she's "not part of the POPULAR girls" in seventh grade.

Doug, go to the Principal's office right now!

[manaboutown]

I have a home in a gated community. Fortunately, they are strict about when trash receptacles may be placed at curbside and when they must be removed. A couple of times I have forgotten and paid the fine ($25) but I am happy with the restrictions which include overnight parking controls and yard appearance. They are in place for aesthetics, hygiene and public safety.

[DianeM]

And this can all be said as you just did, without mocking and inside "jokes" that make the o.p. feel like she's "not part of the POPULAR girls" in seventh grade.

And that exactly is why I am no longer making any posts on TOTV. I'm tired of being put down and it's not worth it anyway.

[DianeM]

I have a home in a gated community. Fortunately, they are strict about when trash receptacles may be placed at curbside and when they must be removed. A couple of times I have forgotten and paid the fine ($25) but I am happy with the restrictions which include overnight parking controls and yard appearance. They are in place for aesthetics, hygiene and public safety.

:agree:

[kittygilchrist]

And this can all be said as you just did, without mocking and inside "jokes" that make the o.p. feel like she's "not part of the POPULAR girls" in seventh grade.

I don't see the jokes and poking at the OP that you refer to. I see the runaway train of TOTV humor that keeps me delighted to be part of the community. I always visit a great long thread even if the topic isn't of interest, to see what nuttiness has emerged because that's the fun part, when the posters play and enjoy themselves. NO HARM INTENDED.

[CFrance]

I don't see the jokes and poking at the OP that you refer to. I see the runaway train of TOTV humor that keeps me delighted to be part of the community. I always visit a great long thread even if the topic isn't of interest, to see what nuttiness has emerged because that's the fun part, when the posters play and enjoy themselves. NO HARM INTENDED.

I agree and do the same, Kitty. And these same folks, I might add, are the ones who lift people up when they are having a rough time. We're not mean... Just opinionated!

[DougB]

Doug, go to the Principal's office right now!
Ummm, I'm being good

[kittygilchrist]

Ummm, I'm being good

Good at what, young man? excessiveness, that's what. excessively funny. I've got too little A left to LMAO anymore. Go back to class and stop snickering.

[ilovetv]

I don't see the jokes and poking at the OP that you refer to. I see the runaway train of TOTV humor that keeps me delighted to be part of the community. I always visit a great long thread even if the topic isn't of interest, to see what nuttiness has emerged because that's the fun part, when the posters play and enjoy themselves. NO HARM INTENDED.

All the piling on and grouping together to say "I agree with" the statement "I don't pay attention to stuff like that" clearly was mockery and demeaning of a legitimate concern. The o.p. said from the start that "its a mystery to me" why people put their trash out a whole day early in the hot sun, causing the place to look trashy and to stink, when common courtesy would be more considerate of neighbors.

She made it clear from the beginning that this was routine behavior, NOT unusual circumstances like leaving on a trip or illness. But that was disregarded by some who implied SHE was the problem for not offering to help a neighbor who's frail or whatever. Then somebody told her she's trying hard not to like TV, when that is not known for sure at all. Then many piled on to agree and laugh at each other's "cool" jokes so that the complaint/topic is belittled some more.

In fact, "BELITTLING" describes most of what has been said in this thread. This is exactly how decent, otherwise content people are shut down and told in so many words that "You do not matter" and "this playground belongs to US.....you're not one of us."

It's juvenile and dispiriting.

[Patty55]

:agree:

Y'all need to GROW UP.

[gomoho]

It's a fine line we are all walking on this site. Guess we need to go back to the theory of "do unto others as you would have them do onto you" and maybe we would be a little more sensitive?!? Think about just respecting someone's concern instead of being critical or demeaning. If you think their post is stupid - zip it - carry on and don't give it a second thought. As Rodney King said "can't we all just get along"????

[looneycat]

Could someone please explain to me why people feel compelled to put their trash and recycling out BEFORE NOON on the eve of pick up day. It looks so lovely to see their trash out there baking in the sun on a Sunday afternoon. NOT!!

obviously because they don't put an inordinate amount of unworthy nitpicking thought into it. they thought more of their neighbors.

[kittygilchrist]

:agree:

Y'all need to GROW UP.

Patty, you kill me.:loco:

[Vernster]

I have a bag of food in my freezer for a neighbor who is a snowbird. We put out trash for neighbors, pick up mail, visit them in the hospital, take deliveries, cry with them and rejoice with them...we are friends. If they put their trash out the evening before the trash runs in the morning, I don't give it a second thought. It is just a reminder that they are there and all is well in their world.

Right on.!! You sound like a wonderful neighbor.

[Aurora]

While reading this thread I am sitting here watching the news of people hiding for their life in a mall in Kenya where terrorists are gunning down people. My, how lucky are we to have the annoyances we have?

[rdhdleo]

God bless those whose biggest concern is annoyance directed at those premature in taking out the trash. The rest of us should be so lucky


:agree:

[ilovetv]

While reading this thread I am sitting here watching the news of people hiding for their life in a mall in Kenya where terrorists are gunning down people. My, how lucky are we to have the annoyances we have?

We don't have any say in what should be done to the terrorists in our own country, much less in Kenya.

But we do have this board here, to raise awareness here in our town, to concerns that neighbors could fix if they knew others found it offensive, against the rules, or aggravating. It's also here to make suggestions as to possible solutions that could help the situation here.

[DianeM]

All the piling on and grouping together to say "I agree with" the statement "I don't pay attention to stuff like that" clearly was mockery and demeaning of a legitimate concern. The o.p. said from the start that "its a mystery to me" why people put their trash out a whole day early in the hot sun, causing the place to look trashy and to stink, when common courtesy would be more considerate of neighbors.

She made it clear from the beginning that this was routine behavior, NOT unusual circumstances like leaving on a trip or illness. But that was disregarded by some who implied SHE was the problem for not offering to help a neighboruu who's frail or whatever. Then somebody told her she's trying hard not to like TV, when that is not known for sure at all. Then many piled on to agree and laugh at each other's "cool" jokes so that the complaint/topic is belittled some more.

In fact, "BELITTLING" describes most of what has been said in this thread. This is exactly how decent, otherwise content people are shut down and told in so many words that "You do not matter" and "this playground belongs to US.....you're not one of us."

It's juvenile and dispiriting.


Thank you.