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Karron
09-30-2013, 07:38 PM
I found 19 Registered Sex Offenders within 3 miles of my home!:cry::cry:
(The Villages, safe??)
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
09-30-2013, 07:43 PM
I think that you'd probably find that no matter where you live. When was the last time you heard of a sex crime being committed in the Villages.
Sex offenders can be a lot of different things. Did you know for example if a 17 year old boy has consensual sex with a girl under the age of 14, he can be convicted of statutory rape and have to be registered as a sex offender.
I think that the Villages are one of the safest communities in the United States and I think that statistics will back that up.
redwitch
09-30-2013, 07:49 PM
Not all sexual offenses are equal nor should all offenses require one to register as an offense. I know of a man who had consensual sex with his 15 YO girl friend when he was 19. He was charged with statutory rape and now must register for the rest of his life. He and his "girl friend" just celebrated their 30th wedding anniversary.
Also, be sure you're using a police website, not one labeled as "sex offenders." One such site showed three "offenders" living in the lake/golf course off of Enrique.
kittygilchrist
09-30-2013, 07:50 PM
yeah, well pull that offender list up anywhere and weep. as an expert in child sexual abuse, I assure you there's likely a perp walking down most streets. TV isn't immune but we are probably well under average for offenders in the population.
kittygilchrist
09-30-2013, 07:52 PM
Not all sexual offenses are equal nor should all offenses require one to register as an offense. I know of a man who had consensual sex with his 15 YO girl friend when he was 19. He was charged with statutory rape and now must register for the rest of his life. He and his "girl friend" just celebrated their 30th wedding anniversary.
Also, be sure you're using a police website, not one labeled as "sex offenders." One such site showed three "offenders" living in the lake/golf course off of Enrique.
Yeah, Dee, I did mental health in a prison with 18 yo men who unluckily had their birthday after their 17 yo girlfriend got pregnant.
thanks for the post..
Kitty
senior citizen
09-30-2013, 07:53 PM
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BettyCrocked
09-30-2013, 07:56 PM
The site gives the exact charge. None in my area were statutory.
kittygilchrist
09-30-2013, 07:58 PM
I found a whole slew of them four years ago when I began looking.
It is scary if you have visiting grandchildren....or expect to have any child at all visiting. Can't be too safe nowadays. We do need to protect out children from these predators. If you read the explicit details, most have been accused of acts with underaged minors. Most look like dirty old men.
I do recall they all looked pretty seedy looking.........the last time I viewed the site......again, I haven't looked in awhile...........but I totally "get" where you are coming from. I guess predators age and retire just like the rest of us..........but it is too close for comfort. I checked our various towns up here and there were not as many as in THE VILLAGES.
Some have suggested that they came to live with their "parents".....well, the ones I saw way back then....must have had parents as old as Methuselah. Many were repeat offenders. I'll have to check it out again.
please don't count on seedy looking dirty old men as a way of protecting your little ones. offenders come in every package and are USUALLY trusted family members. you won't believe me...but it's nevertheless true.
ilovetv
09-30-2013, 07:59 PM
This is a good site for seeing registered sex offenders. Results can be seen by List or by Map by clicking that above the address you put in to search on.
National Sex Offender Registry - Family Watchdog (http://www.familywatchdog.us)
This site is good for listing all arrests chronologically and they are mapped:
SpotCrime Crime Map (http://www.spotcrime.com)
kittygilchrist
09-30-2013, 08:02 PM
thanks ILT..those are good to know.
kittygilchrist
09-30-2013, 08:04 PM
The site gives the exact charge. None in my area were statutory.
it can be charged as battery on a minor.
kittygilchrist
09-30-2013, 08:05 PM
Those that have been caught don't come close to the # of those that haven't. Always keep your guard up no matter where you reside.
don't get me started.
senior citizen
09-30-2013, 08:05 PM
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Karron
09-30-2013, 08:06 PM
The site gives the exact charge. None in my area were statutory.
Yes... this site gives the charge & sentence of each offender....
:confused:
senior citizen
09-30-2013, 08:07 PM
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kittygilchrist
09-30-2013, 08:13 PM
your family are likely safer here than wherever they live. who is sticking up for a predator? nobody...you're misreading that...this is my field of professional expertise so don't mess with me on this.
Nobody is defending offenders...you missed the detail on that, so who cares?
Your family are safer in TV than wherever they are from.
My point is just this: offenders are everywhere and there are fewer of them here than where your grands live. go check that out and tell me if that's right.
Registered sex offenders in The Villages, Florida - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this city (http://www.city-data.com/so/so-The-Villages-Florida.html)
Excuse me. Child (children) under age 12. Child (children) under age 16.
Only parents and grandparents should be outraged?
Obviously, we are not the liberal left.
None of these seemed to be "dating" situations.....
There are other sites with their pictures.....but this was the first one that came up.
It has their addresses.........they all seem to be congregated in one section of The Villages.
For the most part anyway...........thanks to the OP for posting this again.....
I'll look up the other sites in a bit.
We have a nineteen year old grand daughter who will be visiting.
We have an eight year old grand daughter who will be visiting.
We have a 12 year old grand son, ditto.
We have a two year old grand daughter who will be visiting
We have an almost one year old grand daughter who will be visiting.
With more babies on the way........
Obviously, they will not be roaming unattended in that neighborhood.
But things happen...........in parks, playgrounds.....etc.
Children are abducted and murdered every day in the U.S.....all over.
Why does everyone always stick up for the predators?
senior citizen
09-30-2013, 08:20 PM
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gpirate
09-30-2013, 08:34 PM
Here is crime rates for TV versus Fl. and natl average.
The Villages, FL Crime Rates & Statistics (http://www.areavibes.com/the+villages-fl/crime/)
kittygilchrist
09-30-2013, 08:35 PM
P.S. I forgot to mention to "scroll down" on that list of predators.
Actually, the graph shows many many others in surrounding towns which border The Villages......too many for peace of mind.
I'm entitled to my opinion just as everyone else is.
I'm not messing with you. Why on earth would anyone want to do that?
We are just concerned parents/grandparents.....as any intelligent person would be. Anyone who has children or has grandchildren know what truly innocent beautiful God given gifts they are.........and these low lifes are just too close for comfort. It's common sense.
Common sense means that your grands are likely safer here than they were at home. Have you checked their homes for nearby offenders? I hope you will be comforted by knowing you are bringing them to a SAFER land than where they live. If that isn't true, let us see the stats...
Bogie Shooter
09-30-2013, 08:38 PM
Not the first post on this topic.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/creative-deterrent-sex-offenders-neighborhoods-86645/
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/72-sex-offenders-84096/
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/hundreds-sex-offenders-could-housed-rural-lake-county-47073/
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/sex-offender-registry-44846/
ilovetv
09-30-2013, 08:40 PM
The search results in the Spot Crime site are telling, as to where the arrests are concentrated, and what their severity level is.....
SpotCrime Crime Map (http://www.spotcrime.com/#The%20Villages)
Bogie Shooter
09-30-2013, 08:42 PM
Registered sex offenders in The Villages, Florida - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this city (http://www.city-data.com/so/so-The-Villages-Florida.html)
Excuse me. Child (children) under age 12. Child (children) under age 16.
Only parents and grandparents should be outraged?
Obviously, we are not the liberal left.
None of these seemed to be "dating" situations.....
There are other sites with their pictures.....but this was the first one that came up.
It has their addresses.........they all seem to be congregated in one section of The Villages.
For the most part anyway...........thanks to the OP for posting this again.....
I'll look up the other sites in a bit.
We have a nineteen year old grand daughter who will be visiting.
We have an eight year old grand daughter who will be visiting.
We have a 12 year old grand son, ditto.
We have a two year old grand daughter who will be visiting
We have an almost one year old grand daughter who will be visiting.
With more babies on the way........
Obviously, they will not be roaming unattended in that neighborhood.
But things happen...........in parks, playgrounds.....etc.
Children are abducted and murdered every day in the U.S.....all over.
Why does everyone always stick up for the predators?
p.s. We also have a three year old niece who will be visiting along with her six year old brother.
All of these kids mentioned above are adorable children.............with upstanding family members.
It's the creeps on the sex offender list I'd be concerned about.......whether or not anyone else loves children, they need to be protected from these low lifes.
If you are so concerned, why in the world would you post all of this personal information?
BTW what does the liberal left have to do with it?
kittygilchrist
09-30-2013, 08:42 PM
The search results in the Spot Crime site are telling, as to where the arrests are concentrated, and what their severity level is.....
SpotCrime Crime Map (http://www.spotcrime.com/#The%20Villages)
that's old info and only covers the north...BUT good to know.
senior citizen
09-30-2013, 08:45 PM
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senior citizen
09-30-2013, 09:09 PM
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Barefoot
09-30-2013, 10:34 PM
Why does everyone always stick up for the predators?
Everyone always sticking up for predators? I don't see that happening here, not a bit.
Patty55
09-30-2013, 11:58 PM
We are just concerned parents/grandparents.....as any intelligent person would be. Anyone who has children or has grandchildren know what truly innocent beautiful God given gifts they are.........and these low lifes are just too close for comfort. It's common sense.
Oh, the low life's are much closer than you think. Generally, these people are in a position of trust. Look around, it's the teachers, the scout leaders, your children's friends goofy uncle. Rarely is it a stranger.
I have found the most common offenders are within the family. The grandparents, cousins and uncles. This is also the most under-reported.
We all had this same conversation not too long ago with the same outrage and drama. If anyone feels safer where they currently are, maybe they should stay there.
I just hope that the RSO is not the new dog poop, I hope that people who view the raw data and don't have the ability to discern what they see don't use that data to blanket this entire community as predators.
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 05:55 AM
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kittygilchrist
10-01-2013, 06:05 AM
Thank you for taking the time to express your dismay over how times have changed. When I was growing up we didn't lock the door and although we lived on a highway, nobody worried about me being abducted from the yard where I ran barefoot, or even when I put on shoes and crossed the road to the woods, alone, to climb my favorite tree, nobody worried. and my mother was big on worry.
skip0358
10-01-2013, 06:13 AM
I know when the Grand Children come to visit MOST of the time the Grand Parents are around but here's something that's always bothered me. We go to the family pool when they're here and there is no way of knowing IF one of those people visiting the pool is a sex offender. There is no key swipe and even if there were your cards aren't marked to show you don't belong there. I always when they're here keep an extra watchful eye out as should we all whether they're our kids or not.There was an attack in the Villages about 1 1/2 years ago in the park by Sonny's the man was caught and charged. JMO
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 06:15 AM
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senior citizen
10-01-2013, 06:17 AM
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redwitch
10-01-2013, 06:27 AM
Sadly, predators are everywhere. Always have been, always will be. One in three women over the age of 60 have been sexually molested. One in five over 60 molested before they were 10 years old. Our world was just as unsafe as this world is -- it just wasn't reported back then. (Don't know the statistics for men but wouldn't be surprised if the numbers were similar for under 10.) If a woman was raped, she was blamed for being out, wearing the wrong clothes, etc. If Uncle John molested a child, the child was usually convinced to not tell their parents and if the parents found out, there was too much shock and shame that it was someone they trusted to be with their child that had harmed their child.
The Villagers is bound to have some predators both of children and adults. It's too large of a community to not have them. Any parent or grandparent who doesn't watch their kids is being negligent at best. At the same time, I wouldn't hesitate to let my grandson play outside with me just watching from the window here. At the squares, I am with him at all times and he is no more than a hand grasp away from me -- even when we're dancing. It would be the same regardless of where I lived.
We need to be diligent in protecting ourselves and our families. This doesn't mean we have to be paranoid and afraid of every shadow. Be aware that bad things happen to good people but don't let that fact rule your life.
graciegirl
10-01-2013, 06:37 AM
Registered sex offenders in Vermont (http://www.city-data.com/so/Vermont.html)
Vermont has about 625 thousand total population as of latest figures.
I would hazard a guess that the same percentage of residents in Vermont are sex offenders as anywhere else.
Most sex offenses are committed by someone known to the victim.
http://csom.org/pubs/mythsfacts.html
Bogie Shooter
10-01-2013, 06:54 AM
Thank you for sharing that.
I just "went back" and reread the posts from this past August 2013
As we were preparing to leave on a family reunion vacation during that time period.........I never got the chance, back in August, to read those last posts............wow. Sounds like a bunch of middle school (Junior high) school gals......a clique of sorts.
Hey, for years we thought our little town in Vermont was the perfect utopia to raise a family.......and it was. But times change. All over.
A week ago, our cops and detectives and state police cooperating with the state of Vermont drug task force....had a "second sweep" of heroin and cocaine and meth "DEALERS".....low and middle level sellers......the first sweep was back on January 16 and a BIG one whereby they rounded up, wearing S.W.A.T. gear, helicopter overhead......between 40 to 50 DRUG DEALERS and booked them all the same day. This time it was under 20.
They were "selling" near a school and right in the center of "downtown".
Our cops use undercover cop informants to buy the drugs, etc.
The rest is history.
Our cops are on the ball and trying to "get back our community" from the ones who come up from the cities to infiltrate our community and get the kids hooked on drugs. I'm paraphrasing what the police chief of our town and the state police say in our newspapers.
The cops make no secret about the fact that these druggies see Vermont as a soft target and are here to get kids hooked....they are always making statements to be printed in our newspaper.......or t.v. news.
It's no secret. No one up here keeps secrets. No town is perfect.
But this town was as close as perfect as you are going to get, once upon a time..........we don't have our heads in the sand and we don't do a mass marketing "coverup".........it is what it is. This was a "Leave it to Beaver" kind of town.....thankfully, our children got off to a very good start in a safe environment and were able to walk to everything....parents were not fearful at all then.....there was nothing to fear.
Again, it's different lately.
They even printed all their MUG SHOTS.......on our online newspaper.
Young girls, young men......middle aged guys and one middle aged woman. All Vermonters or transplants to Vermont......except for the kingpin drug dealers who came up from the city and stand out like a sore thumb up here...........
No one in our town will DENY that there has been a HUGE SEA CHANGE in the town dynamics.........this is why the cops are so gung ho on ridding out town of this scum..........right now most of the new ones are in jail........on high bail. Two of them were also arrested back on Jan. 16.
The lesser ones were let out; long story...........but our crime rate "statistics" have GONE UP since these two drug raids............but the oldtimers in our town and other towns across Vermont...........who remember the old days.......are GLAD the cops are on the ball.
Our police chief is a young 40 something dad with a family and little kids of his own........he remembers how his childhood was and wants the same for his children.
It's crossed my mind, and I've discussed this with my husband, that our property values will not increase favorably due to these two drug raids which were BIG NEWS. I can go to the statistics and see how our rating has changed.
But people moving into town with young children do have a "need to know"..........this is all called free speech and freedom of the press.
There actually were a few (three to be exact) "attempted break ins" of homes on the street above us, in back of us (our neighborhood is terraced on hills).......two of which were doctor's homes and one a realtor's home.
The "perps" would call the house to ask if a special delivery package could be delivered........just to see if anyone was home. In one of the doctor's homes, his adult son was there alone, visiting.........and called the police.
Our states attorney, a neighbor of ours, is aware of this and all of the people have been told by our mail lady who delivers to our mailboxes at the end of our driveways........it's a grapevine......she said "arrests are imminent".........two days later the big drug raid occurred (last week)....
SO IT HAPPENS.....crime is among us. We all know it.
Not happy. But no one would ever deny it....or "make jokes about it".
NOT ONE PERSON demeans or belittles others for their concern.
Our entire town is concerned.......
The ones of us who have been neighbors in this community for 43 years and who have raised our children together, are NOT HAPPY with the turn of events.........but again, our heads are not in the sand. We don't make lightly of it BECAUSE our police are not making lightly of it. They are saying exactly what the problem is and it's a HUGE PROBLEM.
Now, the drug kingpin , from January, is getting three years in jail and then will be returned to New York City to do more time there. Townspeople are up in arms , saying it is too light of a sentence, but it costs a small fortune, in this small state, to keep a perp incarcerated in Vermont.
SO, NO SECRETS UP HERE........why is that?
We would also be concerned to have so many sex perverts in our midst.
Especially those who prey on children.
Thanks for reposting all of those hyperlinks from the recent past.......
Appreciate it.
p.s.
In reading of teenaged girls in cars who "ran into an open garage in TV" and stole golf clubs........I was just telling a doctor friend of ours about what happened to us earlier this past summer.......I was at my desk and happened to look out the window............two teenagers, in black hoodies, one a girl (I think) and one a guy......were crouching low and walking hunched over and peering into the window.........they were beyond our deck.........but still walking on our property too close to the house and looking into the windows..........we made eye contact. To be that close to the house, they had to walk past our three season sun porch from left to right............they gave me the creeps. The girl had red hair hanging out of her hoody. I went into our garage to tell my husband but by the time he had gone around to the back, they were already through the tree line.
We kind of know "who they belong to" as there are twins at the end of the cul de sac........one of which is "bad news" with mental issues, who we've been warned about for decades.....since he was little, by another neighbor who is a sheriff......and other neighbors who have experienced his outbursts........he's been in mental hospitals......he's an ADULT in his early twenties but still living with his parents.......the cops are always coming to their home to break up fights .................anyway, all of these "kids" need money to support their drug habits........right around that time, they were arresting other teens for stealing from local merchants during night time break ins............lately several jewelry stores and craft places have been broken into via smash and grab, even with security alarms.........
IT HAPPENS.........
Our N.J. family members would come up to Vermont every single weekend and then tell us "You don't live in the real world up here".....meaning the low crime, etc.......or non existent crime.....at that time. But times have changed.
And yes, when I compared the crime rate in The Villages Florida to the crime in our town..........which has a population of slightly under 16,000 people and is not an exit off a highway......but surrounded by the Green Mountain Forest and farmlands.......we are higher. TV is lower.
I speak the truth. I don't care for demeaning, submissive remarks from cliques....that should be mature women but act like school girls.
All of this "information" does what? Take any community in the US and one could say the same thing. Your inferences about TV that are referenced by what has or has not happened in your community are irrelevant. Warning villagers or future villagers about the "safe zones" and places to "watch out for" are creating unnecessary worry. All this coming from a non-Village resident.
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 07:02 AM
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graciegirl
10-01-2013, 07:13 AM
This is kind of a P.S. to my earlier this morning post re freedom of speech and freedom of the press regarding criminal types in one's home town.
I forgot to mention that in our small town DAILY newspaper which we all get by 4 a.m. each morning..........they print on page two all of the court information......including the arrests of the day before, the trial convictions, etc. and so forth.
Whereby years ago, one NEVER saw so many "boyfriends" of moms of little kids...being arrested and convicted for child molestation, it is now a daily occurrence.
It seems they hook up with these young women to get to the children.......and then they all claim "I was drunk; don't know how I ended up with the child"....blah blah blah.........
Ditto for domestic violence against women. Boyfriend / girlfriend abuse.
Society has changed.........no doubt about it. Our town has changed.
T.V. and movies probably contribute to crime as well.
We can watch shows like Dexter, Breaking Bad and Criminal Minds and certainly are not going to go out and follow suit.......but kids who were brought up on violent movies and t.v. shows, may become desensitized...
My kids watched THE WALTONS and LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE.
My dad controlled the television set and he liked westerns like Bonanza with Little Joe Cartwright.......and VICTORY AT SEA...etc. We got to watch Superman on Saturdays and Rama of the Jungle. Sky King. Captain Video.
I had a little brother.
Because of freedom of speech and freedom of the press, we all know what's going on in our town. I think all papers should print the truth. Not only what is happening in our town but in the surrounding areas as well............and it does. Our young reporters and journalists are spot on as far as digging up the dirt.
I too remember a simpler childhood.......where noone ever heard of a child being abducted or molested..........our parents gave us the freedom to roam......so either they also were not concerned..........or else they were hoping to get rid of us. But, no one bothered to harm us in any way.
We talk about this all the time............no one remembers any kids being abducted way back when (in the cave man days)........when we were reading Dick and Jane........and Sally.
I think the point is being missed. I think the point has well been made by many posts before this one.
Sex offenders are generally people known to the victim.
The people who live here know and report the things happening here. We do not live in an inferior information gathering climate. We have the same level of information about this area as any other area in the U.S.
I do not think that summaries can be made by people who do not live here.
EVERYONE should pay careful attention to children at all times. Unfortunately, blood relatives too often commit sex offenses.
This place is as safe as any place in the U.S. I think it is safer than most.
If you will look at my previous post on this thread I have posted a good link to "MYTHS ABOUT SEX OFFENDERS.".
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 07:22 AM
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Bogie Shooter
10-01-2013, 07:33 AM
Believe me, we are not paranoid.
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Yes, I would want to know if a group of perverts are renting a home or homes in the vicinity where we would be buying a home in TheVillages.
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What if you did buy a house in TV. And then 6 months later, as you say, a pervert moves in next door. What do you do then? Just sayin..................
DaleMN
10-01-2013, 07:33 AM
The Villages: America's Friendliest Home Town.
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 07:35 AM
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graciegirl
10-01-2013, 07:36 AM
What if you did buy a house in TV. And then 6 months later, as you say, a pervert moves in next door. What do you do then? Just sayin..................
That is a very important thing to think about. It is valid WHERE EVER you choose to live.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
10-01-2013, 07:39 AM
For those who are concerned about their grandchildren when the come to visit, I'd suggest you look up the area where your grandchildren live permanently. See where there are more sex offenders. That'll give you something else to worry about.
quirky3
10-01-2013, 07:46 AM
It is possible for residents to join together in an effort to pass a resolution not to allow registered sex offenders to live in the community. I currently live in a community that has such a resolution (near Jacksonville FL). A registered sex offender can own a property in the community but cannot live there, and it is not allowed to rent to registered sex offenders. Granted, there is some monitoring that goes along with that, but it goes a long way toward peace of mind.
Bogie Shooter
10-01-2013, 07:52 AM
It is possible for residents to join together in an effort to pass a resolution not to allow registered sex offenders to live in the community. I currently live in a community that has such a resolution (near Jacksonville FL). A registered sex offender can own a property in the community but cannot live there, and it is not allowed to rent to registered sex offenders. Granted, there is some monitoring that goes along with that, but it goes a long way toward peace of mind.
Does that community have 100,000+ residents? How was the resolution created and passed?
Its obvious that TV has sex offenders, like other communities, but..........is there a problem that needs addressing?
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 07:57 AM
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Bogie Shooter
10-01-2013, 07:59 AM
Registered sex offenders in Bennington, Vermont - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this city (http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Bennington-Vermont.html)
We have two registered sex offenders living in Bennington, Vermont.
One of which I know exactly who it is and where they live and what family they belong to.
Our population has always been around 16,000 souls. It might be slightly under that now.
I do not see any crimes against a child.....but never say never. Perhaps not convicted yet.
I always perceived THE VILLAGES to be an extremely SAFE place to reside, amidst people our own age.
I'm sure there are plenty out there who totally understand where I'm coming from ; thus I am not going to repeat myself.
I don't have difficulty with the English language and I don't speak "valley girl."
I've explicitly explained it. Don't believe in shoving things under the rug.
It's more an attitude of let's paint this rosy picture where there is a back story.........I respect truth. I would feel totally safe in THE VILLAGES FLORIDA. I feel safe here. But we all should know what's happening.
In one sentence.............who did this?
Barefoot
10-01-2013, 08:20 AM
Originally Posted by senior citizen View Post
Registered sex offenders in Bennington, Vermont - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this city
We have two registered sex offenders living in Bennington, Vermont.
One of which I know exactly who it is and where they live and what family they belong to.
Our population has always been around 16,000 souls. It might be slightly under that now.
I do not see any crimes against a child.....but never say never. Perhaps not convicted yet.
I always perceived THE VILLAGES to be an extremely SAFE place to reside, amidst people our own age.
I'm sure there are plenty out there who totally understand where I'm coming from ; thus I am not going to repeat myself.
I don't have difficulty with the English language and I don't speak "valley girl."
I've explicitly explained it. Don't believe in shoving things under the rug.
It's more an attitude of let's paint this rosy picture where there is a back story.........I respect truth. I would feel totally safe in THE VILLAGES FLORIDA. I feel safe here. But we all should know what's happening.
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No-one is shoving anything about The Villages under the rug! Please don't try to needlessly alarm people. We all need to continue doing what we've been doing all along .... watch out for our kids and grandkids; and also watch out for other people's kids!
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 08:30 AM
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Bogie Shooter
10-01-2013, 08:39 AM
I found 19 Registered Sex Offenders within 3 miles of my home!:cry::cry:
(The Villages, safe??)
Did you get an answer to your question??
quirky3
10-01-2013, 08:46 AM
Does that community have 100,000+ residents? How was the resolution created and passed?
Its obvious that TV has sex offenders, like other communities, but..........is there a problem that needs addressing?
The community has less than 100,000 residents. The resolution was proposed for an annual meeting, discussed and voted on there. I know for sure that my current community does not have a problem that needs to be addressed regarding registered sex offenders.
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 09:23 AM
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senior citizen
10-01-2013, 09:27 AM
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Patty55
10-01-2013, 09:29 AM
The community has less than 100,000 residents. The resolution was proposed for an annual meeting, discussed and voted on there. I know for sure that my current community does not have a problem that needs to be addressed regarding registered sex offenders.
You sure?
Registered sex offenders in zip code 32003 - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this zip code (http://www.city-data.com/soz/soz-32003.html)
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 09:33 AM
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graciegirl
10-01-2013, 09:52 AM
I think he means, WHO is your one and only sex offender? Bennington has a population of about 14K.
We have 13 according to this map.
Registered sex offenders in zip code 32162 - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this zip code (http://www.city-data.com/soz/soz-32162.html)
Peachie
10-01-2013, 10:14 AM
Registered sex offenders in Bennington, Vermont - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this city (http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Bennington-Vermont.html)
We have two registered sex offenders living in Bennington, Vermont.
One of which I know exactly who it is and where they live and what family they belong to.
Our population has always been around 16,000 souls. It might be slightly under that now.
I do not see any crimes against a child.....but never say never. Perhaps not convicted yet.
I always perceived THE VILLAGES to be an extremely SAFE place to reside, amidst people our own age.
I'm sure there are plenty out there who totally understand where I'm coming from ; thus I am not going to repeat myself.
I don't have difficulty with the English language and I don't speak "valley girl."
I've explicitly explained it. Don't believe in shoving things under the rug.
It's more an attitude of let's paint this rosy picture where there is a back story.........I respect truth. I would feel totally safe in THE VILLAGES FLORIDA. I feel safe here. But we all should know what's happening.
Senior, with all due respect, you may be shoving "things" under the rug. It's be stated here several times that, in essence, " Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know".
Your focus is on the registered sex offenders but if you go back and reread Sprinkler Buddy's post #11, I believe most sex offenders are still out there.
My very dear friend and her husband watched their 10 year old daughter's sweet personality disappear and by age 12, her daughter was involved in drugs. The drug abuse continued into her twenties and long story short; she barely survived but is doing well today. The turn-around began when she blurted out to her mother after a particularly horrible episode, that her cousin, (4 years older than her) had sexually molested her from age 10 to age 14. It began while he was babysitting her and her 4 siblings. This man is still out there, never prosecuted because her daughter didn't want the stigma and devastating pain revisited again and he was family. It terrifies me.
You should be suspicious of everyone, this now college grad sexual predator is free and has prestige to help mask his perverseness.
The Villages is a microcosm of the world. Things aren't as safe in Vermont as you are telling yourself.
quirky3
10-01-2013, 10:19 AM
You sure?
Registered sex offenders in zip code 32003 - crimes listed, registry-based, living in this zip code (http://www.city-data.com/soz/soz-32003.html)
Yes, I'm sure! I used that same link and looked at my community. There is one registered offender who legally had to be grandfathered because he was there before the rule was put in place. Other than that, my community's map is offender-free, and will stay that way.
Peachie
10-01-2013, 10:27 AM
Yes, I'm sure! I used that same link and looked at my community. There is one registered offender who legally had to be grandfathered because he was there before the rule was put in place. Other than that, my community's map is offender-free, and will stay that way.
I think you need to qualify that remark, Quirky, that your community is "registered sex offender free". Please see my post #58 to senior.
buzzy
10-01-2013, 11:09 AM
I don't think it makes any sense to compare a colossal retirement community to a small home town. People from all backgrounds gravitate to the retirement community, so there's a higher concentration of everything here.
murray607
10-01-2013, 11:16 AM
I found 19 Registered Sex Offenders within 3 miles of my home!:cry::cry:
(The Villages, safe??)
I think we need to realize, that with the registry these offenders are identified as such and you can bet if anything untoward happens the police will likely be knocking on those doors pretty quickly. And those living nearby will exercise more caution if they have viewed the registry and know they are in proximity.
I would prefer they are not living in TV, but until there is some form of local ordinance to exclude them, we are stuck with them.
On the other hand, what concerns me even more is the predators not listed that are in TV, that we have no way of knowing who they are and where and when they may offend.
Bogie Shooter
10-01-2013, 11:50 AM
Who did what? You mean being dismissive? Acting goofy about it?
You'd have to read between the lines of all the August posts.....plus others.
Don't waste your time; I'm sure you have more important pursuits.
I know for a fact that the majority of TV residents who are parents and grandparents also want the best environment for themselves as well as their visitors, no matter what the age. There is power in knowing. Again, now we know.
Some of those "offenders" to put it nicely....are repeat offenders.
No matter what kind of treatment they get......it isn't enough.
Quirky's suggestion is a good one.
Who did the sweeping the issue under the rug?
Karron
10-01-2013, 12:29 PM
[QUOTE=senior citizen;755468]Believe me, we are not paranoid.
We just believe in "knowing the truth".
Hiding the truth does not help anyone.
Yes, I would want to know if a group of perverts are renting a home or homes in the vicinity where we would be buying a home in The Villages.
Thanks, Senior Citizen, for writing this post!
Becoming aware of who are neighbors are is just common sense!
It should be printed in our Covenants & Restrictions for each Village! (Just kidding... sort of....)
Karron:posting:
BobnBev
10-01-2013, 01:18 PM
Not all sexual offenses are equal nor should all offenses require one to register as an offense. I know of a man who had consensual sex with his 15 YO girl friend when he was 19. He was charged with statutory rape and now must register for the rest of his life. He and his "girl friend" just celebrated their 30th wedding anniversary.
Also, be sure you're using a police website, not one labeled as "sex offenders." One such site showed three "offenders" living in the lake/golf course off of Enrique.
Shades of Jimmy Hoffa....cement shoes....alligator food....no more evidence:bowdown:
graciegirl
10-01-2013, 02:22 PM
[QUOTE=senior citizen;755468]Believe me, we are not paranoid.
We just believe in "knowing the truth".
Hiding the truth does not help anyone.
Yes, I would want to know if a group of perverts are renting a home or homes in the vicinity where we would be buying a home in The Villages.
Thanks, Senior Citizen, for writing this post!
Becoming aware of who are neighbors are is just common sense!
It should be printed in our Covenants & Restrictions for each Village! (Just kidding... sort of....)
Karron:posting:
We do not have children living here, just visiting. I think that we are far more endangered by the very bad driving than by these nasty people.
The difference between the neighborhood of our youth and our neighborhood now is that we know who some of them are. Probably the same level of evil then and now.
Many of these offenders are childen of villagers in their thirties and forties.
Last year they arrested somebody's adult kid in his forties for swimming drunk in a pool, naked.
I find that people carry a certain level of fear with them and some of it is appropriate and some of it is misplaced. This place as far as safety in general is probably better than most places in this country. We do not work....we are very aware of people walking around the neighborhood and if someone looks out of place. We have 100 thousand sets of eyes and ears, watching out for each other.
buggyone
10-01-2013, 02:47 PM
Personally, I would think grandparents should be more concerned about their grandkids joyriding in the golf cart with friends or having a fake ID and getting drunk at City Fire than the extremely slim chance of a personal occurrence with a registered sex offender in The Villages. Lots more danger in teen drinking and driving.
Did you know that a 17 year old girl can be forced to register as a sex offender if she sends a naked picture of herself via email to her boyfriend? That is legally called distribution of child pornography.
Lots of the registered sex offenders did something stupid like public urination and get labeled a sex offender for life.
Karron
10-01-2013, 03:03 PM
I think the point is being missed. I think the point has well been made by many posts before this one.
Sex offenders are generally people known to the victim.
The people who live here know and report the things happening here. We do not live in an inferior information gathering climate. We have the same level of information about this area as any other area in the U.S.
I do not think that summaries can be made by people who do not live here.
EVERYONE should pay careful attention to children at all times. Unfortunately, blood relatives too often commit sex offenses.
This place is as safe as any place in the U.S. I think it is safer than most.
If you will look at my previous post on this thread I have posted a good link to "MYTHS ABOUT SEX OFFENDERS.".
Really ??
Do you really think we are informed of neighborhood crime by our "Look on the Sunny Side" newspaper published in The Villages?
I have to depend on news released in Ocala, Fruitland Park & Leesburg to be truly informed & aware of important crime reports as well as get balanced political news .....:spoken:
Now if I want to read about "TV Sorority" ..... Well, you get the idea!
I came to The Vilages as an educated, well read person looking forward to a happy, fun filled retirement....I did not leave my intellect back in Illinois with my winter coats just to listen to (or read) fairy tales & play with sex offenders!
Peachie
10-01-2013, 03:17 PM
Really ??
Do you really think we are informed of neighborhood crime by our "Look on the Sunny Side" newspaper published in The Villages?
I have to depend on news released in Ocala, Fruitland Park & Leesburg to be truly informed & aware of important crime reports as well as get balanced political news .....:spoken:
Now if I want to read about "TV Sorority" ..... Well, you get the idea!
I came to The Vilages as an educated, well read person looking forward to a happy, fun filled retirement....I did not leave my intellect back in Illinois with my winter coats just to listen to (or read) fairy tales & play with sex offenders!
I sense you are about to get the vapors over registered sex offenders in The Villages. I don't know how to break this to you but... but... Illinois is loaded with registered sex offenders and unregistered sex offenders. You've been living in their vicinity all your life. If you lived near Chicago, there are rumors that there is corruption in their government and the state government. So perhaps on the whole, you may be better off. Who can tell? :shrug:
Karron
10-01-2013, 03:25 PM
I sense you are about to get the vapors over registered sex offenders in The Villages. I don't know how to break this to you but... but... Illinois is loaded with registered sex offenders and unregistered sex offenders. You've been living in their vicinity all your life. If you lived near Chicago, there are rumors that there is corruption in their government and the state government. So perhaps on the whole, you may be better off. Who can tell? :shrug:
Yes....
Illinois was just as you describe....
:agree:
rubicon
10-01-2013, 03:33 PM
Yeah, Dee, I did mental health in a prison with 18 yo men who unluckily had their birthday after their 17 yo girlfriend got pregnant.
thanks for the post..
Kitty
yea a guy I grew up with dated a girl for three years and when she got pregnant at age 17 and he age 18...........well he was arrested fro statutory rape.
Bogie Shooter
10-01-2013, 03:34 PM
Really ??
Do you really think we are informed of neighborhood crime by our "Look on the Sunny Side" newspaper published in The Villages?
I have to depend on news released in Ocala, Fruitland Park & Leesburg to be truly informed & aware of important crime reports as well as get balanced political news .....:spoken:
Now if I want to read about "TV Sorority" ..... Well, you get the idea!
I came to The Vilages as an educated, well read person looking forward to a happy, fun filled retirement....I did not leave my intellect back in Illinois with my winter coats just to listen to (or read) fairy tales & play with sex offenders!
The Daily Sun is what it is! You do not have to purchase it to read about "TV Sorority". But then you probably don't buy it anyway, right?
Balanced political reporting from the papers you mention?.............they each have there own agenda; but of course a
well read, educated person would know that.
looneycat
10-01-2013, 03:40 PM
Yes... this site gives the charge & sentence of each offender....
:confused:
how about some arrests here in the villages...
http://http://mugshots.com/search.html?q=The%20Villages (http://mugshots.com/search.html?q=The%20Villages)
:police:
Patty55
10-01-2013, 03:45 PM
What I'm not getting here is why some people think that predators would want to be in an area without children? It would seem that they would want access to them, doesn't it?:shrug:
But, if that's what you want to believe, Bless your heart. (I've been taking southern speak lessons.)
Karron
10-01-2013, 07:02 PM
The Daily Sun is what it is! You do not have to purchase it to read about "TV Sorority". But then you probably don't buy it anyway, right?
Balanced political reporting from the papers you mention?.............they each have there own agenda; but of course a
well read, educated person would know that.
Dear whoever,
:throwtomatoes::grumpy:Does writing a MEAN post make you feel better?
I see from your past postings you are very negative in your responses.
Maybe you should try another approach....
Just saying.....
graciegirl
10-01-2013, 07:45 PM
Dear whoever,
:throwtomatoes::grumpy:Does writing a MEAN post make you feel better?
I see from your past postings you are very negative in your responses.
Maybe you should try another approach....
Just saying.....
Bogie Shooter pretty much tells it like it is.
I think that there is possibly another intellectual here in The Villages.
I am pretty sure of it.
The Daily Sun publishes crimes but does NOT add to the presentation of facts much. If you want sensationalism, read the Orlando Sentinel.
The new online paper, owned by Meta Minton, no use saying it's name because it will be xxxxd out, is pretty good at telling a bit more of the story.
Nothing important is missing really, there isn't MUCH crime here.
If you wonder why we are feeling defensive, it is just simply that many of us love this place. It is now our hometown and our friends and peers live here. We network, we feel we KNOW what goes on, we have a lot of time to devote to that. This is the place where we have chosen to come to enjoy the fruits of our labors, we like it very much and are very satisfied with it. Many times people from densely populated areas carry with them the same level of preparedness against crime that they badly needed in their old lives. NO where is completely safe, but it is safer here than in Chicago, or in any large city populated with a lot of people on drugs and who belong to gangs..
Patty55
10-01-2013, 08:44 PM
If you wonder why we are feeling defensive, it is just simply that many of us love this place. It is now our hometown and are friends and peers live here. We network, we feel we KNOW what goes on, we have a lot of time to devote to that. This is the place where we have chosen to come to enjoy the fruits of our labors, we like it very much and are very satisfied with it. Many times people from densely populated areas carry with them the same level of preparedness against crime that they badly needed in their old lives. NO where is completely safe, but it is safer here than in Chicago, or in any large city populated with a lot of people on drugs.
I get defensive when the negative comments come from people who don't even live here. This board, although a little whiny at times, is made up of very open people who really try to help each other. They are very quick to welcome anyone and really don't deserve to be portrayed as a group of drunken bad drivers who have a predator problem. Would you all like the tables turned? Would you like the truth about wherever it is that you call home?
I also get offended when rather than listen to the truth some people get caught up in BS and drama. You take someone like Kitty who I'm sure has more experience than she would like to remember, you people should have listened to her rather than just continue your denial. You might have learned something.
Perhaps you should revert to what you think you can control, dog poop, because you sure as heck aren't going to fix the sexual abuse problem.
senior citizen
10-01-2013, 09:15 PM
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Peachie
10-01-2013, 09:37 PM
There may not be crime in THE VILLAGES per se.....but there is indeed crime surrounding it.....sad to say. The same residents of Summerfield and other towns to the north and west can easily come into TV.
Who is this Bogie Shooter? Is he related to you?
No matter. If you say he's an intellectual, I believe you.
Awhile back, while researching 55+ communities in and around THE VILLAGES such as those in the area of Summerfield, which is very closely "north" of TV, I remember reading in the Ocala newspaper about a horrific crime committed by a bunch of teens.
I also read about it in the Orlando Sentinel. At our age, of 68, we do have a "need to know". This was a gruesome murder.
It's abbreviated version is shown below............but at the time it was happening and discovered, the details were scary.
I recall asking the realtor with whom I had been corresponding at the time, if she knew of the crime........at first she was reluctant to say anything, but eventually did tell me the story......but said her developements were safe from this kind of teen crime.
I still remember the photos of these young teen murderers in the newspapers.........they burned the kid's body in a barbecue pit, after cutting it all up.
That's not petty crime. Was it in the TV paper?
They were 15, 16, 18 and 20, etc. The 15 year old girlfriend planned the murder, etc.
It was premeditated......not a crime of passion....but thought out ahead of time.
Marion woman sentenced to life for role in teens slaying
Charlie Ely sentenced to life in prison for her role in the murder of Marion teen Seath Jackson.
October 17, 2011|By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel
A Marion County woman convicted of brutally murdering a 15-year-old boy was sentenced today to life in prison.
Charlie Kay Ely, 19, was found guilty last month of first-degree murder for her role in the slaying of Seath Jackson. She was sentenced today in a Marion County courtroom
Earlier this year Jackson was beaten and then shot by a group of five people, including Ely. Marion sheriff's investigators say the group then burned his body and disposed of his remains in 5-gallon buckets.
Ely lured the teen to her home in Summerfield where the murder took place.
Jackson's ex-girlfriend Amber Wright, 15, and her brother Kyle Hooper, 16, planned the murder with 18-year-old Michael Shane Bargo, Charlie Kay Ely, 18, and 20-year-old Justin Soto, the Sheriff's Office said.
Four others are awaiting trial for their roles in the teen's death.
bprieto@tribune.com (bprieto@tribune.com) or 407-420-5620.
Senior, you've told us that Vermont is being infiltrated big time by drug lords. Do you think that is superior to the incidences in FL? That crime is what creates the problems seen in FL. I think I've lost sight of your point.
Bogie Shooter
10-01-2013, 09:44 PM
The point was lost a long time ago.
Skybo
10-01-2013, 10:04 PM
With all due respect Senior, I think most of us who live here are informed of what is going on in The Villages and in the surrounding areas. No one relies on The Daily Sun for their hard news. It may surprise you, but just like everyone else in the country, we have access to various local media outlets who duly report on all of the crime that takes place within our community and beyond. We are a pretty well-read and intelligent group of folks, and I'm baffled by why you think that you need to educate us on what is going on in our community. Add me to the list of people who don't understand your point.
Patty55
10-01-2013, 10:22 PM
Oh, and by the way, Charlie Ely has Jose Baez handling her appeal. I don't see her getting out anytime soon. LOL
graciegirl
10-01-2013, 10:49 PM
I haven't ever met Bogie Shooter, but I have read his posts over six years now and he gets the point, time and time again. He may not be wordy but I am convinced he is very bright indeed and sometimes he is abrupt.
It is hard to be told by people who do not live here how things are here..
I was trying to be clever by saying that there may be another intellectual in The Villages as the OP was pointing out the merits of her own intellect.
I think we who live here are better equipped to evaluate the safety of this place and the posts just before mine were pretty direct and very honest in saying that we were not a bunch of fools here. We frequently smile when people off site tell us the national news. We have all of the same media and information as those who live every where else in this country.
We have far less crime than most places in the United States.
People thinking to move here can either accept that, or continue to think this is a hot spot for sexual depravity
. Right now it appears that there will be more than enough people longing to move here to fill all of the homes the developer is going to build.
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