Rolling meth lab busted on Rolling Acres Rd.

[graciegirl]

Whoops, NOT busted in The Villages. Busted on Rolling Acres drive but I heard this just now on channel six news and I hope I am reporting it accurately.

Two men, one from The Villages, were arrested at a traffic stop and charged with having a "rolling meth lab" in their vehicle. I THINK this man lives with his mother on Palo Alto drive. The man himself is 58.

See below this article I found online.
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/2-charged-after-lady-lake-police-find-mobile-meth-/nbGDH/

And this one too,

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-10-04/news/os-lk-lady-lake-car-meth-lab-bust-20131004_1_lady-lake-police-two-men-methamphetamine

[asianthree]

how do you put a meth lab in a car...thinking it must be a van but the smell would be horrific...and the heat to cook the meth is even more scary...thanks for the post GG keep us posted..

[rayschic]

Here's a link to an article about it.

2 charged after Lady Lake Police find mobile meth lab during... | www.wftv.com (http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/2-charged-after-lady-lake-police-find-mobile-meth-/nbGDH/)

[kittygilchrist]

Kudos to LCSO (Lake sheriff) for having officers on the ball to spot this one. Cooking in a Gatorade bottle...wow.

[asianthree]

Here's a link to an article about it.

2 charged after Lady Lake Police find mobile meth lab during... | www.wftv.com (http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/2-charged-after-lady-lake-police-find-mobile-meth-/nbGDH/)

not a young kid thats for sure..unless the meth aged him

[eremite06]

Heisenberg????

[NECHFalcon68]

Heisenberg????

Was it blue crystal?

[shcisamax]

Wasn't there a meth lab last year in someone's attic?

[buggyone]

According to the articles, the traffic stop was made on Rolling Acres Road - so it was not on Villages property. It was in Lady Lake!

I wonder who they sell to in the area? Obviously, none of the groups in front of me playing golf have ever taken "speed".

[manaboutown]

One's name is Verticelli. I thought that was the name of a pasta so I looked it up. The pasta is Vermicelli.

These guys look like they have done their share of crystal meth.

[Madelaine Amee]

According to the articles, the traffic stop was made on Rolling Acres Road - so it was not on Villages property. It was in Lady Lake!

I wonder who they sell to in the area? Obviously, none of the groups in front of me playing golf have ever taken "speed".

I think there are some very unsavory characters moving into TV. We see people all the time who don't look like they belong here, but it's a perfect place for criminal activity - quiet neighborhoods, older residents, not much police presence off the main roads into the back roads, lots of houses rented out year round. I have reclusive neighbors who are seasonal and quite frankly if someone was using their home in the summer I would never know about it or whether they should be there. The rest of us talk and communicate with each other, but not them.

[buggyone]

I think there are some very unsavory characters moving into TV. We see people all the time who don't look like they belong here, but it's a perfect place for criminal activity - quiet neighborhoods, older residents, not much police presence off the main roads into the back roads, lots of houses rented out year round. I have reclusive neighbors who are seasonal and quite frankly if someone was using their home in the summer I would never know about it or whether they should be there. The rest of us talk and communicate with each other, but not them.

From what I understand, a meth lab smells like strong ammonia. If you smelled that coming from a neighbor home, call the sheriff.

Talk to neighbors. Get to know them. If there is constant foot traffic or car traffic at a house at odd hours, get suspicious. Let someone know.

This is our community. Get proactive.

[Patty55]

I once knew a guy who wrapped SPAM in tin foil and cooked it on the manifold of his pickup. Maybe you can cook crack like that-y'think?

[graciegirl]

Two meth labs connected with The Villages. Nicely busted. Many thanks, officers.

Wish people would only take in their NICE kids.

[dillywho]

From what I understand, a meth lab smells like strong ammonia. If you smelled that coming from a neighbor home, call the sheriff.

Talk to neighbors. Get to know them. If there is constant foot traffic or car traffic at a house at odd hours, get suspicious. Let someone know.

This is our community. Get proactive.

You hit the nail on the head!:BigApplause:

We all need to be involved in our community.

[mickey100]

Interesting we found out about this from Orlando media as opposed to the Villages Daily Fun er Sun.

[Midvale]

Must have been a pop bottle "shake and bake" set up. Like making fire bombs in your car. Brilliant.

[zcaveman]

Interesting we found out about this from Orlando media as opposed to the Villages Daily Fun er Sun.

Not to bust your bubble but that article was in the Wednesday Daily Sun on page C3.

Z

[zcaveman]

Whoops, NOT busted in The Villages. Busted on Rolling Acres drive but I heard this just now on channel six news and I hope I am reporting it accurately.

Two men, one from The Villages, were arrested at a traffic stop and charged with having a "rolling meth lab" in their vehicle. I THINK this man lives with his mother on Palo Alto drive. The man himself is 58.

See below this article I found online.
2 charged after Lady Lake Police find mobile meth lab during... | www.wftv.com (http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/2-charged-after-lady-lake-police-find-mobile-meth-/nbGDH/)

And this one too,

Lady Lake Police: Two men arrested for "cooking" meth in a car - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-10-04/news/os-lk-lady-lake-car-meth-lab-bust-20131004_1_lady-lake-police-two-men-methamphetamine)


GG - It was in the Wednesday Daily Sun on page C3.

Z

[graciegirl]

GG - It was in the Wednesday Daily Sun on page C3.

Z


Well you know I love The Sun. So glad they told about it so people don't say mean stuff about them again.

[Karron]

His poor mother lives in The Villages....22292

Her house was on the news.... just hope she is old enough not to have seen her neighbors talk about the "bad son"!:eek:

[graciegirl]

His poor mother lives in The Villages....22292

Her house was on the news.... just hope she is old enough not to have seen her neighbors talk about the "bad son"!:eek:


That alone, should stop a right minded person in their tracks.

[gomoho]

Two meth labs connected with The Villages. Nicely busted. Many thanks, officers.

Wish people would only take in their NICE kids.

GG - the NICE kids don't usually need to be taken in!

[rubicon]

GG - the NICE kids don't usually need to be taken in!

Hi gomoho: First the guy arrested may have been an adult child but at 58 he was no kid. Secondly given the bad economy, disabilities, divorces, etc there are many legitimate reasons why adult children live with their parents.
Third, I suspect that neither the parents nor their adult children cherish the arrangement but if you can't rely on family then who you gonna call where gonna go? Third adult children with college decrees are out of work with the middle class disappearing quickly. So unless this economy gets going again there are going to be more adult children living with their parents

Personal Best Regards:

[DougB]

His poor mother lives in The Villages....22292

Her house was on the news.... just hope she is old enough not to have seen her neighbors talk about the "bad son"!:eek:

So nice of you to post a picture of his mother's house. I sm sure she is appreciative of that.

[TheVillageChicken]

Hi gomoho: First the guy arrested may have been an adult child but at 58 he was no kid. Secondly given the bad economy, disabilities, divorces, etc there are many legitimate reasons why adult children live with their parents.
Third, I suspect that neither the parents nor their adult children cherish the arrangement but if you can't rely on family then who you gonna call where gonna go? Third adult children with college decrees are out of work with the middle class disappearing quickly. So unless this economy gets going again there are going to be more adult children living with their parents

Personal Best Regards:

You say "tomato," I say he is more likely a parasitic, low-life bum.

I would suggest anyone using Bill's Lawn Care (http://www.manta.com/c/mmlygcv/bill-s-lawn-care), find a new service.

[senior citizen]

You say "tomato," I say he is more likely a parasitic, low-life bum.

I would suggest anyone using Bill's Lawn Care (http://www.manta.com/c/mmlygcv/bill-s-lawn-care), find a new service.

Well, you are excellent at research. Thank you for finding that.

[Karron]

So nice of you to post a picture of his mother's house. I sm sure she is appreciative of that.

The picture is just a reminder to those that think this guy operated outside of the Villages because he was caught on Rolling Acres Rd........chilout

[manaboutown]

A recurring problem in 55 and over retirement communities which allow it is the return of "problem" adult children to reside with their folks. Some of these adult children are just out of drug rehabs or convicted felons out of prison and commit the crimes themselves. Others invite in criminals who commit crimes in these communities. This happened a few years ago, the first murder in The Villages. Villages killer is youngest inmate on Florida's death row - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-05-07/news/lmcgirth07_1_sheila-miller-james-miller-marion-county)

Many meth labs around the country are found in rented homes. "Cookers" might find a locale such as The Villages, which has its share of absentee landlords and is relatively remote from well equipped urban law enforcement, ideal. It is important to observe and monitor what is happening in one's neighborhood and report any suspicious activity.

[buggyone]

The picture is just a reminder to those that think this guy operated outside of the Villages because he was caught on Rolling Acres Rd........chilout

I wonder if the police searched the house for illegal drugs, etc? If anything was found, would the mother be liable or charged too?

[senior citizen]

The picture is just a reminder to those that think this guy operated outside of the Villages because he was caught on Rolling Acres Rd........chilout

Right on target. I thought we were discouraged from posting any negativity with regard to life in THE VILLAGES?
Go figure, right??? Here I went and deleted all my negativity re all the sex offenders, etc.

Good post Karron.

[Yung Dum]

I wonder who they sell to in the area? Obviously, none of the groups in front of me playing golf have ever taken "speed".[/QUOTE]
Now that's funny!
I think I posted this wrong. Better check the instructions.

[senior citizen]

A recurring problem in 55 and over retirement communities which allow it is the return of "problem" adult children to reside with their folks. Some of these adult children are just out of drug rehabs or convicted felons out of prison and commit the crimes themselves. Others invite in criminals who commit crimes in these communities. This happened a few years ago, the first murder in The Villages. Villages killer is youngest inmate on Florida's death row - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-05-07/news/lmcgirth07_1_sheila-miller-james-miller-marion-county)

Many meth labs around the country are found in rented homes. "Cookers" might find a locale such as The Villages, which has its share of absentee landlords and is relatively remote from well equipped urban law enforcement, ideal. It is important to observe and monitor what is happening in one's neighborhood and report any suspicious activity.

Thanks for supplying the above hyperlink. Well, that's a shocker.
Wonder if realtors have to divulge to a potential home buyer that a murder has been committed in a certain home......such as the one in THE VILLAGE OF SPRINGDALE????

[senior citizen]

how do you put a meth lab in a car...thinking it must be a van but the smell would be horrific...and the heat to cook the meth is even more scary...thanks for the post GG keep us posted..

Don't you remember the first season or so of BREAKING BAD when Walter White and Jesse were "cooking" in a camper type vehicle? Out in the desert.

[manaboutown]

Don't you remember the first season or so of BREAKING BAD when Walter White and Jesse were "cooking" in a camper type vehicle? Out in the desert.

A few years ago I went to a continuing education class for real estate brokers in Albuquerque, NM - coincidentally Breaking Bad country. The instructor told us to take a can a spray starch and spray it on walls as we went through a house. The starch turning purple would indicate the presence of Meth. I do not know if this is true, but...http://www.forensic-applications.com/meth/recognition.html
http://realestate.msn.com/how-to-avoid-buying-a-meth-house

[senior citizen]

A few years ago I went to a continuing education class for real estate brokers in Albuquerque, NM - coincidentally Breaking Bad country. The instructor told us to take a can a spray starch and spray it on walls as we went through a house. The starch turning purple would indicate the presence of Meth. I do not know if this is true, but...


That's a good hint. I would imagine it would be necessary in the cities, etc. but even probably in the "burbs".....

I have read that families who unknowingly move into former "meth" homes (with their young children) are truly entering a danger zone without realizing it......as the residue of the chemicals can trigger health problems in the young......

Also, in the cities, in apartment dwellings.......children who live in a totally different apartment than where the meth is being produced....can be at risk.

I'm still wondering if a realtor has to divulge a "murder" which occurred in a home that one is interested in buying?????????? Not just a death.
But......a murder.

[Indydealmaker]

That's a good hint. I would imagine it would be necessary in the cities, etc. but even probably in the "burbs".....

I have read that families who unknowingly move into former "meth" homes (with their young children) are truly entering a danger zone without realizing it......as the residue of the chemicals can trigger health problems in the young......

Also, in the cities, in apartment dwellings.......children who live in a totally different apartment than where the meth is being produced....can be at risk.

I'm still wondering if a realtor has to divulge a "murder" which occurred in a home that one is interested in buying?????????? Not just a death.
But......a murder.

Such a disclosure is likely to vary by state. However, if a prospective buyer asks specific questions regarding murders, suicides, molestations, etc., the realtor must disclose prior knowledge regardless of state laws that mandate seller disclosures.

[buggyone]

That murder took place in 2008. It was not a random killing.

Can anyone think of any other violent crime in The Villages since 2008? The only other one I know of was in 2009 which was a domestic violence with shooting. Anyone else?

[DougB]

That's a good hint. I would imagine it would be necessary in the cities, etc. but even probably in the "burbs".....

I have read that families who unknowingly move into former "meth" homes (with their young children) are truly entering a danger zone without realizing it......as the residue of the chemicals can trigger health problems in the young......

Also, in the cities, in apartment dwellings.......children who live in a totally different apartment than where the meth is being produced....can be at risk.

I'm still wondering if a realtor has to divulge a "murder" which occurred in a home that one is interested in buying?????????? Not just a death.
But......a murder.

They have murders and meth labs in Vermont, why not ask your local realtor?

[senior citizen]

That murder took place in 2008. It was not a random killing.

Can anyone think of any other violent crime in The Villages since 2008? The only other one I know of was in 2009 which was a domestic violence with shooting. Anyone else?


Not "in The Villages" but right near it in Summerfield??
A group of five or more teens, beginning age 15, 16, 17, 18, etc.
lured another teen to a home where they killed him....
Cut his body up into pieces......burned him in a fire pit/barbecue pit;
disposed of the body parts in pails/containers, etc.

That's pretty gruesome.

The first killer, now 20...a female...was just sentenced to life I think.
The rest will be having individual trials soon.......

I first read of it after it happened.........in the Ocala paper.
I recently read of the first trial.....in the Orlando Sentinel.

Summerfield is very close. Isn't that where Stonecrest is? Or Spruce Creek? One of them connects to The Villages.

These teens drive in cars nowadays.........no problem for them to go where they please........such as to Brownwood as another poster states.

[senior citizen]

That murder took place in 2008. It was not a random killing.

Can anyone think of any other violent crime in The Villages since 2008? The only other one I know of was in 2009 which was a domestic violence with shooting. Anyone else?


6 Arrested In Slaying Of 15-Year-Old Boy | News - Home (http://www.news4jax.com/news/6-Arrested-In-Slaying-Of-15-Year-Old-Boy/-/475880/1958402/-/dkqq7i/-/index.html)

This was the original newspaper article. 2011. It's close to The Villages.

The other day I read about the first trial and first sentence of a female, now 20 years of age.

I just read the entire article YET AGAIN (HYPERLINK ABOVE)........hard to even imagine; keep scrolling down.

[buggyone]

6 Arrested In Slaying Of 15-Year-Old Boy | News - Home (http://www.news4jax.com/news/6-Arrested-In-Slaying-Of-15-Year-Old-Boy/-/475880/1958402/-/dkqq7i/-/index.html)

This was the original newspaper article. 2011. It's close to The Villages.

The other day I read about the first trial and first sentence of a female, now 20 years of age.

I just read the entire article YET AGAIN (HYPERLINK ABOVE)........hard to even imagine; keep scrolling down.

I did not say close to The Villages! I said in The Villages.

You would be hard pressed to find a community of similar size that is any safer than The Villages.

[senior citizen]

They have murders and meth labs in Vermont, why not ask your local realtor?

I meant for some unsuspecting retiree coming to Florida and purchasing a home.......where these lowlifes think they are going to cook meth.

There was another home in TV where they were making it in the attic of an elderly woman......or some room in her house. The attics are not that big.

If you check back, you will notice that it was not I who initiated this thread on meth labs.

Our Vermont drug problems are among the youth up to 30 somethings.
Not retirement age or 58 year olds who live with their mothers in a retirement community.......and possibly mow your lawns.

On another thread, it is the "youth" being rude in the new square of Brownwood that is worrisome to some people.....not the senior citizens running around alarming folks.

Murders are rare in Vermont. The last horrendous ones I can remember are the 14 year old Brooke Bennett case up in Randolph . She was "lured" by her pedophile uncle (a habitual offender in that realm) to come to a party at his place........he assaulted and strangled her and buried her body in a shallow grave.

He just copped a plea deal for life without parole. A sordid "family" story.

The other one was a snow removal guy and his gal pal who asked a respected young teacher to come and help them out, using the ruse that their car had broken down.............she drove to the spot, with her young toddler in the car.........the rest is history. She is dead. They are dragging out their potential trial. She trusted the wrong person; someone who had shoveled her driveway of snow.

Again, it was not I who initiated this negative thread.

If truth be told, we wouldn't live in the area where these young addicts are from (in our town)........of course, there is no stopping where they might decide to do their mischief.....such as breaking and entering to steal money, possessions, jewelry, etc in order to "fund" their drug habit.

All residents are unhappy with this situation in our town, but the cops are doing a great job in rounding them up and booking them.

Addiction is a serious problem in all of the United States. It's an honest wondering to "wonder" if one is buying a meth home or a home where a murder has been committed. The residue of drugs in a home can affect one's health.

All states' laws are different................so my asking any one of our realtor friends or neighbors wouldn't help answer the question about disclosure in your area of TV, correct?

[graciegirl]

6 Arrested In Slaying Of 15-Year-Old Boy | News - Home (http://www.news4jax.com/news/6-Arrested-In-Slaying-Of-15-Year-Old-Boy/-/475880/1958402/-/dkqq7i/-/index.html)

This was the original newspaper article. 2011. It's close to The Villages.

The other day I read about the first trial and first sentence of a female, now 20 years of age.

I just read the entire article YET AGAIN (HYPERLINK ABOVE)........hard to even imagine; keep scrolling down.


Ocala is in another city, Senior. What you must consider is that moving to almost any state other than Vermont will give you MORE population. And unfortunately more crime.

The Villages is still one of the safest places to live in this country.

[tucson]

That murder took place in 2008. It was not a random killing.

Can anyone think of any other violent crime in The Villages since 2008? The only other one I know of was in 2009 which was a domestic violence with shooting. Anyone else?

Are you talking about the murder of a Villager husband who was killed by their live-in adult daughter's druggie boyfriend? It was on the Orlando 6p News at the time.

[Patty55]

Are you talking about the murder of a Villager husband who was killed by their live-in adult daughter's druggie boyfriend? It was on the Orlando 6p News at the time.

Yes, that is the "crime wave" she is speaking of.

[Karron]

Right on target. I thought we were discouraged from posting any negativity with regard to life in THE VILLAGES?
Go figure, right??? Here I went and deleted all my negativity re all the sex offenders, etc.

Good post Karron.

Thanks Senior Citizen.....
Some times the truth, (sad to say), just isn't pretty!:22yikes:

[Karron]

Kudos to LCSO (Lake sheriff) for having officers on the ball to spot this one. Cooking in a Gatorade bottle...wow.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow:

[skyc6]

Compared to any other 100,000+ city in this country, our crime rate is almost nonexistant. There will always be the occasional incident, anywhere you live, but for the most part, this is a really safe place to live. We should work to keep it that way by watching out for our own neighborhoods and each other.

[senior citizen]

Ocala is in another city, Senior. What you must consider is that moving to almost any state other than Vermont will give you MORE population. And unfortunately more crime.

The Villages is still one of the safest places to live in this country.

I've said I felt safe there. TV is also surrounded by other towns.

We know where Ocala is; to the north of the Villages.

Summerfield, where the teenaged murderers were located (now in prison) is fairly close to The Villages......I just looked it up on MapQuest:


US-27 N to SE Highway 42 8.75 miles

13 mins / 14 mins based on current traffic

Summerfield is in Marion County........ditto, some of The Villages is located in Marion County. Our rental home was in Marion County.

If some unruly teens can "get to" Brownwood....then other teens or young adults can surely drive from Summerfield (if they chose to) to The Villages.

I remember when this all happened. It was a planned gruesome murder.
What kind of families did they come from? I wonder.

One of the girls just had her trial. Obviously, they've aged, but at the time of the crime they were 15, 16, 17 and 18.....I believe there were six of them who lured the 15 year old to a home........I won't repeat the details which are in the newspaper article.........posted elsewhere.

Had I not read the Ocala newspaper, I would not have been aware of it.......but that doesn't mean it never happened.
I would just have been living in la la land.

At the time I inquired of the realtors in Spruce Creek and Stone Crest.
At first they said that they had never heard of it. What????
They lived in Summerfield.

Finally, they "remembered" the murder.....and the gruesome details of cutting up the body, burning the body parts in the backyard fire pit and then disposing of the body in pails??? Oh, they also broke his knees.

I can see why some posters have stated they felt uneasy with the teens at Brownwood.

One thing I know........if a group of teenagers that age managed to carry out a MURDER as gruesome as that in our town......EVERYONE would have known about it within the time they were captured......and everyone would have been following the events leading up to the trial. And, last but not least, everyone would have been HORRIFIED.

That boy didn't deserve to die like that , at the hands of his "friends" just because his 15 year old girlfriend was ticked off at him. The article is posted elsewhere.

Sad but true.........those kids weren't studying hard to get into a good university.

[Patty55]

I've said I felt safe there. TV is also surrounded by other towns.

We know where Ocala is; to the north of the Villages.

Summerfield, where the teenaged murderers were located (now in prison) is fairly close to The Villages......I just looked it up on MapQuest:


US-27 N to SE Highway 42 8.75 miles

13 mins / 14 mins based on current traffic

Summerfield is in Marion County........ditto, some of The Villages is located in Marion County. Our rental home was in Marion County.

If some unruly teens can "get to" Brownwood....then other teens or young adults can surely drive from Summerfield (if they chose to) to The Villages.

I remember when this all happened. It was a planned gruesome murder.
What kind of families did they come from? I wonder.

One of the girls just had her trial. Obviously, they've aged, but at the time of the crime they were 15, 16, 17 and 18.....I believe there were six of them who lured the 15 year old to a home........I won't repeat the details which are in the newspaper article.........posted elsewhere.

Had I not read the Ocala newspaper, I would not have been aware of it.......but that doesn't mean it never happened.
I would just have been living in la la land.

At the time I inquired of the realtors in Spruce Creek and Stone Crest.
At first they said that they had never heard of it. What????
They lived in Summerfield.

Finally, they "remembered" the murder.....and the gruesome details of cutting up the body, burning the body parts in the backyard fire pit and then disposing of the body in pails??? Oh, they also broke his knees.

I can see why some posters have stated they felt uneasy with the teens at Brownwood.

One thing I know........if a group of teenagers that age managed to carry out a MURDER as gruesome as that in our town......EVERYONE would have known about it within the time they were captured......and everyone would have been following the events leading up to the trial. And, last but not least, everyone would have been HORRIFIED.

That boy didn't deserve to die like that , at the hands of his "friends" just because his 15 year old girlfriend was ticked off at him. The article is posted elsewhere.

Sad but true.........those kids weren't studying hard to get into a good university.

...And the point is? Yes, several years ago some teens did a horrible thing, they were caught, convicted and Charlie Ely was sentenced to life without parole. She, IMO, will serve the entire life sentence (Jose Baez is handling her appeal-LOL). WHAT HAS THIS TO DO WITH THE VILLAGES.

I'll take your word that such a thing would never happen in Bennington, IMO, killing someone in such a place would just be considered redundant.

Maybe the realtor was new to the area and unaware. Maybe he was there to sell a house not spin his wheels and engaging in fishmonger gossip. Who knows.

Maybe after 5+ years of research you need to accept that this place is not for you.

[DougB]

Thanks Senior Citizen.....
Some times the truth, (sad to say), just isn't pretty!:22yikes:

Posting a picture of an old woman's house who we have no evidence she had any idea what her lowlife son was doing (although seeing his picture she is not too bright if she didn't know) is also sad to say and not very pretty

[PammyJ]

I've said I felt safe there. TV is also surrounded by other towns.

We know where Ocala is; to the north of the Villages.

Summerfield, where the teenaged murderers were located (now in prison) is fairly close to The Villages......I just looked it up on MapQuest:


US-27 N to SE Highway 42 8.75 miles

13 mins / 14 mins based on current traffic

Summerfield is in Marion County........ditto, some of The Villages is located in Marion County. Our rental home was in Marion County.

If some unruly teens can "get to" Brownwood....then other teens or young adults can surely drive from Summerfield (if they chose to) to The Villages.

I remember when this all happened. It was a planned gruesome murder.
What kind of families did they come from? I wonder.

One of the girls just had her trial. Obviously, they've aged, but at the time of the crime they were 15, 16, 17 and 18.....I believe there were six of them who lured the 15 year old to a home........I won't repeat the details which are in the newspaper article.........posted elsewhere.

Had I not read the Ocala newspaper, I would not have been aware of it.......but that doesn't mean it never happened.
I would just have been living in la la land.

At the time I inquired of the realtors in Spruce Creek and Stone Crest.
At first they said that they had never heard of it. What????
They lived in Summerfield.

Finally, they "remembered" the murder.....and the gruesome details of cutting up the body, burning the body parts in the backyard fire pit and then disposing of the body in pails??? Oh, they also broke his knees.

I can see why some posters have stated they felt uneasy with the teens at Brownwood.

One thing I know........if a group of teenagers that age managed to carry out a MURDER as gruesome as that in our town......EVERYONE would have known about it within the time they were captured......and everyone would have been following the events leading up to the trial. And, last but not least, everyone would have been HORRIFIED.

That boy didn't deserve to die like that , at the hands of his "friends" just because his 15 year old girlfriend was ticked off at him. The article is posted elsewhere.

Sad but true.........those kids weren't studying hard to get into a good university.

Senior Citizen, I think a couple of days ago you were inquiring about Indialantic By the Sea. If the crime in and surrounding The Villages is bothersome, you might want to cross Brevard County off of your list. Indialantic is just across the river from a high crime area where drugs, shootings and murder happen on a regular basis.. Just about 1-2 miles away. In the past couple of years one of the biggest prescription drug rings was busted right in Indialantic FL. Just saying... I think we are in a great place in The Villages! But crime is everywhere!

[senior citizen]

Thanks Senior Citizen.....
Some times the truth, (sad to say), just isn't pretty!:22yikes:

It does seem like a cover up. This is the case I am talking about, below.
Just saying........the "surrounding area" is not a utopia. Please scroll down to read it all.



Plot in Grisly Murder of Florida Teen Followed Fight, Authorities Say | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/21/plot-grisly-murder-florida-teen-followed-fight-authorities-say/)


When 14 year old Brooke Bennett was murdered in Randolph Vermont, the entire state was saddened. Everyone knew about it. Everyone also knew and acknowledged that her uncle, a convicted sexual predator, had been released from jail.......and went back to his old ways.........whereas they should have thrown the key away.

As for those who say I shouldn't move to THE VILLAGES......researching other places in order to give my husband an opportunity to enjoy boating is not disloyalty or anything else against The Villages. And people wonder why it has a "Stepford Wives" reputation that follows it......does no one think for themselves?

TV is beautiful. I've said that over and over again. They've created a great atmosphere of loveliness and great zoning, great planning....due to perfect marketing. Sometimes I think many of the posters here work for The Villages.

We will move wherever we please.......in due time.....but not in any of these surrounding towns..........we will "stay safe"in the "bubble" that is TV.

[senior citizen]

Senior Citizen, I think a couple of days ago you were inquiring about Indialantic By the Sea. If the crime in and surrounding The Villages is bothersome, you might want to cross Brevard County off of your list. Indialantic is just across the river from a high crime area where drugs, shootings and murder happen on a regular basis.. Just about 1-2 miles away. In the past couple of years one of the biggest prescription drug rings was busted right in Indialantic FL. Just saying... I think we are in a great place in The Villages! But crime is everywhere!

That's good to know and I appreciate it.

[CFrance]

Senior, I feel that you are taking a part and applying it to a whole, I.e., painting whole towns with the brushstroke of a few miscreants.

We go to Ocala all the time. We go to Wildwood all the time. We go to the safe parts and not the unsafe parts. We lived in a MI town with a high crime rate in one area. We just didn't go to that area. A lot of places have unsafe parts. TV doesn't, in my opinion.

I don't think one should be concerned about TV safety due to possible questionable parts of surrounding communities or taking one or two crimes happening over a long period of time and using them to label the area.

[Golfingnut]

Half full or half empty. I am now on my soap box. I, I say I, lord have mercy, I say I find life more enjoyable seeing the glass as half full.

Hey honey, since your going in anyway, bring me another beer. Ups, is this a live mike incident.

[Jejuca]

Senior - Based on your previous posts you should think carefully before moving here. Although you say it is beautiful you are very critical of it and find many negative things to say about it. Luckily, The Villages is not for everyone. We are fairly new to The Villages. My husband loves it and I am still making up my mind. There are things I really like and things I don't (mostly the heat). I can assure you there aren't any Stepford wives. From what we have experienced and observed this is a community of inclusion and acceptance.
Are there problems? Of course, all communities have problems. How the residents in the communities address the problems is the key.

[kittygilchrist]

Meanwhile back at the meth lab...

[Golfingnut]

Meanwhile back at the meth lab...

Really, I must be a real light weight restricting myself to Bud Light.

I tried grass in Vietnam, but it made me paranoid, so I went back to Bacardi and Coke.

[CFrance]

Really, I must be a real light weight restricting myself to Bud Light.

I tried grass in Vietnam, but it made me paranoid, so I went back to Bacardi and Coke.
On, that's so sophomoric, GN! Rum and coke...

[Golfingnut]

On, that's so sophomoric, GN! Rum and coke...

Butt it be da truth.

[CFrance]

Butt it be da truth.

:ohdear:

[OldManTime]

Kudos to LCSO (Lake sheriff) for having officers on the ball to spot this one. Cooking in a Gatorade bottle...wow.

Kitty, it was the Lady Lake Police

[graciegirl]

If we speed read we learned on this thread not to use speed. And to be surprised where it is made. and........

Not to trust certain landscapers and other people's kids.

I can isolate information and react to it just like the best of them.

[senior citizen]

Senior - Based on your previous posts you should think carefully before moving here. Although you say it is beautiful you are very critical of it and find many negative things to say about it. Luckily, The Villages is not for everyone. We are fairly new to The Villages. My husband loves it and I am still making up my mind. There are things I really like and things I don't (mostly the heat). I can assure you there aren't any Stepford wives. From what we have experienced and observed this is a community of inclusion and acceptance.
Are there problems? Of course, all communities have problems. How the residents in the communities address the problems is the key.

I appreciate your post. We did not find anything at all to be critical about when we were visiting in THE VILLAGES. We both liked it very very much.

It was beautiful. The homes are great. The people we met were all friendly and helpful. Didn't meet anyone we wouldn't want to live near.

The restaurants were great....Lake Sumter Landing was great. The landscaping all around was super pretty......the entire place was neat and well thought out. We were highly impressed. I've said it over and over again.

Something is getting lost in the translation...........

I realize the towns surrounding TV are in a world of their own and we all know to stay out of not so safe areas..........but it's the DENIAL when anyone at all (not just me) brings up something not so nice that happens.

All I've been saying is that in our town, people WANT TO KNOW what is happening and the neighborhood "grapevine" and such, plus the daily morning town newspaper prints ALL THE NEWS.....good and bad.

We are not in denial that society has changed. I can't rehash it all again.

But do appreciate your thoughts.......I guess "thinking aloud" is considered critical and expressing one's "wonderings" is also critical and negative.

Not up here it isn't.

I know...... "Stay up there".....

[Patty55]

Sure, it's all fun and games and now I need to get a new lawn guy. Man, my shrubs were doing great, they trimmed a bit every week and he seemed to be a true weed specialist.

[ALR5ALR]

Man does not live with his mother on palo alto drive. Has not lived there for months.

[Indydealmaker]

Sure, it's all fun and games and now I need to get a new lawn guy. Man, my shrubs were doing great, they trimmed a bit every week and he seemed to be a true weed specialist.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Halle]

Sure, it's all fun and games and now I need to get a new lawn guy. Man, my shrubs were doing great, they trimmed a bit every week and he seemed to be a true weed specialist.

Patty I volunteer to remove that weed for you.

:angel: