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BettyCrocked
10-10-2013, 08:04 AM
to Wal Mart last Thursday evening with a couple of friends. It was about 10:45 pm, and as we passed Paradise Rec center, all 3 of us simultaneously exclaimed "I smell pot!!"
We kept going and as we were headed back, at the same spot we smelled it again. We slowed down and looked around and sure enough, a guy is standing outside the door of the rec center smoking a joint. He didn't even care that we were staring at him! I'm assuming it was a janitorial crew, but they must have been smoking it for a while since it had been 30 minutes since we first smelled it!
It made me wonder if it's a regular occurrence and they just figure nobody who lives nearby is awake, but the smell was certainly strong!
karostay
10-10-2013, 08:11 AM
What's your point?
Bogie Shooter
10-10-2013, 08:14 AM
to Wal Mart last Thursday evening with a couple of friends. It was about 10:45 pm, and as we passed Paradise Rec center, all 3 of us simultaneously exclaimed "I smell pot!!"
We kept going and as we were headed back, at the same spot we smelled it again. We slowed down and looked around and sure enough, a guy is standing outside the door of the rec center smoking a joint. He didn't even care that we were staring at him! I'm assuming it was a janitorial crew, but they must have been smoking it for a while since it had been 30 minutes since we first smelled it!
It made me wonder if it's a regular occurrence and they just figure nobody who lives nearby is awake, but the smell was certainly strong!
"Lucy, you have some splainin to do", how did you recognize the smell of pot??:evil6:
Bonnevie
10-10-2013, 08:23 AM
anyone who went to college in the 60s and 70s know the smell....and I wouldn't assume it was the janitorial staff...at the VA I worked at a lot of veteran's used it...said it helped with pain, nerves, etc.
Taltarzac725
10-10-2013, 08:23 AM
"Lucy, you have some splainin to do", how did you recognize the smell of pot??:evil6:
If you have been to many a concert in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and after it is quite easy to recognize that smell even if you have not tried any. Went to a Bette Midler concert at Red Rocks around 1984 in Colorado and from the back of the crowd it was quite smoky.
BettyCrocked
10-10-2013, 08:25 AM
"Lucy, you have some splainin to do", how did you recognize the smell of pot??:evil6:
Former police officer, it came with the territory.
Not that I didn't know before that, I did go to college...
BettyCrocked
10-10-2013, 08:28 AM
anyone who went to college in the 60s and 70s know the smell....and I wouldn't assume it was the janitorial staff...at the VA I worked at a lot of veteran's used it...said it helped with pain, nerves, etc.
Wasn't just assuming. He had a broom and another guy who walked out had a mop. Unless they were OCD burglars, I'm going with janitorial crew.
buggyone
10-10-2013, 08:48 AM
Wasn't just assuming. He had a broom and another guy who walked out had a mop. Unless they were OCD burglars, I'm going with janitorial crew.
That last sentence was hilarious! I can just picture OCD burglars. :loco:
I am sure almost all of us know at least the fragrance of pot. Personally, I would rather have the janitors smoke pot - outside - than to be drinking booze. I just want the Rec. centers clean. If the cleaning crew smokes a joint, so what?
graciegirl
10-10-2013, 08:55 AM
We are all adults here.
Some of us are older than others but we know what pot smells like.
We didn't just fall off a turnip truck.
We have sex too.
Gracie, old but not dead.
BettyCrocked
10-10-2013, 08:58 AM
That last sentence was hilarious! I can just picture OCD burglars. :loco:
I am sure almost all of us know at least the fragrance of pot. Personally, I would rather have the janitors smoke pot - outside - than to be drinking booze. I just want the Rec. centers clean. If the cleaning crew smokes a joint, so what?
My thoughts exactly. I'm not one to confront folks or try to cause a scene. I was actually a little shocked, though, because there are a lot of people who are not so "live and let live". Reading this board and all of the posts asking "why didn't you confront them" tends to give one a tainted view of how things really are. I have encountered a couple of "confronters" while in TV, and I just laughed it off and wondered why they weren't at home posting on the board.
BobAllen1290
10-10-2013, 08:59 AM
That last sentence was hilarious! I can just picture OCD burglars. :loco:
If the cleaning crew smokes a joint, so what?
You mean besides the fact that it's illegal?? You mean besides that fact that their illegal drug use is contributing to a serious national criminal operation that contributes to the deaths of many US Border Patrol officers and police officers of all stripes? You mean besides that? Yes..Such a little thing.
Pepperhead
10-10-2013, 09:02 AM
You mean besides the fact that it's illegal?? You mean besides that fact that their illegal drug use is contributing to a serious national criminal operation that contributes to the deaths of many US Border Patrol officers and police officers of all stripes? You mean besides that? Yes..Such a little thing.
You are right, sir. Time to legalize it.
graciegirl
10-10-2013, 09:07 AM
Oh great. Here we go.
The nice lady took a ride in the middle of the night, and ran into someone smelling like pure Columbian and now we are going to have a big ole argument.
There are a bunch of nice folks riding around too in the middle of the night and they are The Village Watch.
Perhaps, you know, they need to know stuff like this, it is important to feel needed.
I have a headache. Don't fight.
njbchbum
10-10-2013, 09:16 AM
to Wal Mart last Thursday evening with a couple of friends. It was about 10:45 pm, and as we passed Paradise Rec center, all 3 of us simultaneously exclaimed "I smell pot!!"
We kept going and as we were headed back, at the same spot we smelled it again. We slowed down and looked around and sure enough, a guy is standing outside the door of the rec center smoking a joint. He didn't even care that we were staring at him! I'm assuming it was a janitorial crew, but they must have been smoking it for a while since it had been 30 minutes since we first smelled it!
It made me wonder if it's a regular occurrence and they just figure nobody who lives nearby is awake, but the smell was certainly strong!
such a big deal about someone smoking a joint! i'm wondering whatcha needed/wanted at walmart or if ya were just bored! ;)
BettyCrocked
10-10-2013, 09:28 AM
such a big deal about someone smoking a joint! i'm wondering whatcha needed/wanted at walmart or if ya were just bored! ;)
I ran out of Depends! :a20:
Villages PL
10-10-2013, 10:17 AM
If I was their employer, and I knew about it, I would look for someone else to do the job.
rp001
10-10-2013, 10:17 AM
Let's make it a party..I'll meet those guys any time and "confront" them...they have no right to bogart....
l2ridehd
10-10-2013, 10:20 AM
Take a ride around your village any warm summer night after 9:00 PM and you can smell it quite strongly. And I grew up in the 60's and remember vaguely what it smelled like. :angel:
mulligan
10-10-2013, 10:21 AM
If I was their employer, and I knew about it, I would look for someone else to do the job.
Good luck with that.
Jaggy
10-10-2013, 10:28 AM
:wave:Take a ride around your village any warm summer night after 9:00 PM and you can smell it quite strongly. And I grew up in the 60's and remember vaguely what it smelled like. :angel:
What Villages.. I'll be there.
njbchbum
10-10-2013, 10:29 AM
I ran out of Depends! :a20:
truly a bigger deal than the janitor! :)
buggyone
10-10-2013, 10:43 AM
You mean besides the fact that it's illegal?? You mean besides that fact that their illegal drug use is contributing to a serious national criminal operation that contributes to the deaths of many US Border Patrol officers and police officers of all stripes? You mean besides that? Yes..Such a little thing.
May I ask what you would have done if you had witnessed a cleaner of a Rec. Center smoking a joint outside after the center was closed? Do you honestly think that a call to 911 would have brought a police car if you said you saw someone smoking marijuana?
DonH57
10-10-2013, 10:46 AM
I've smelled it whaffing across our steet on a few occasions. More than likely for medicinal reasons I bet.
Indydealmaker
10-10-2013, 11:21 AM
Wasn't just assuming. He had a broom and another guy who walked out had a mop. Unless they were OCD burglars, I'm going with janitorial crew.
:1rotfl:
Jim 9922
10-10-2013, 11:42 AM
The over-all thoughts of Villagers on this site never ceases to surprise me. Judging from the comments in this thread and comparing it to the several threads on golf cart speeds; driving 21 MPH in your golf cart is a much, much more serious crime than doing illegal pot or other such "recreational drugs".
I for one, don't like the idea that my CDD fees are going towards the paychecks of people who are half buzzed when trying to perform their assigned work for my Villages facilities. And then there is the matter of them jumping into their cars all hopped up and driving home.
notlongnow
10-10-2013, 11:46 AM
Okay, I understand the pot thing and we are all grownups but what I want to know is when exactly does this start so I can get ready for it?
We are all adults here.
Some of us are older than others but we know what pot smells like.
We didn't just fall off a turnip truck.
We have sex too.
Gracie, old but not dead.
billethkid
10-10-2013, 12:12 PM
I am impressed!
Just how close to these guys were you?
I suspect at least 100 feet or more. Pot must really hang heavy in the open air.
And accurate enough to pinpoint that the guys you saw smoking "something" were in fact the ones who were smoking the joint that was being smelled.
We all know the story wouldn't stand a chance in hell of being accepted by the police or courts or any other quorum.
But I remain impressed and glad I wasn't smoking something near by.:angel:
btk
patfla06
10-10-2013, 12:12 PM
The over-all thoughts of Villagers on this site never ceases to surprise me. Judging from the comments in this thread and comparing it to the several threads on golf cart speeds; driving 21 MPH in your golf cart is a much, much more serious crime than doing illegal pot or other such "recreational drugs".
I for one, don't like the idea that my CDD fees are going towards the paychecks of people who are half buzzed when trying to perform their assigned work for my Villages facilities. And then there is the matter of them jumping into their cars all hopped up and driving home.
Them driving home worries me too!
graciegirl
10-10-2013, 12:13 PM
Okay, I understand the pot thing and we are all grownups but what I want to know is when exactly does this start so I can get ready for it?
There will be an announcement.:wave:
notlongnow
10-10-2013, 12:16 PM
:popcorn::popcorn:
BettyCrocked
10-10-2013, 12:25 PM
I am impressed!
Just how close to these guys were you?
I suspect at least 100 feet or more. Pot must really hang heavy in the open air.
And accurate enough to pinpoint that the guys you saw smoking "something" were in fact the ones who were smoking the joint that was being smelled.
We all know the story wouldn't stand a chance in hell of being accepted by the police or courts or any other quorum.
But I remain impressed and glad I wasn't smoking something near by.:angel:
btk
By all means, please assume that my post (and every other post on this board) is a complete fabrication. I had nothing better to do with my time than make it up.
If I ever DO witness such an event, I'll be sure to measure how far I am from the blunt. I'll carry a home drug test also, and collect pee, and take pictures, as well, to confirm that everything that I post on a message board will documented. But it won't matter, somebody will still try to pick the post apart. :rolleyes:
graciegirl
10-10-2013, 01:16 PM
By all means, please assume that my post (and every other post on this board) is a complete fabrication. I had nothing better to do with my time than make it up.
If I ever DO witness such an event, I'll be sure to measure how far I am from the blunt. I'll carry a home drug test also, and collect pee, and take pictures, as well, to confirm that everything that I post on a message board will documented. But it won't matter, somebody will still try to pick the post apart. :rolleyes:
When you post on a forum, especially on a forum of the most sage people on the planet, you will get debate.
billethkid
10-10-2013, 01:27 PM
By all means, please assume that my post (and every other post on this board) is a complete fabrication. I had nothing better to do with my time than make it up.
If I ever DO witness such an event, I'll be sure to measure how far I am from the blunt. I'll carry a home drug test also, and collect pee, and take pictures, as well, to confirm that everything that I post on a message board will documented. But it won't matter, somebody will still try to pick the post apart. :rolleyes:
I implied none of the above at all. 51% in jest the other 49% make whatever works for who ever is reading it.
There isn't an antagonistic bone in my body........but I am inquisitive and always, always ask a lot of questions which usually generates similar reactions to the one above......not sure why that is:confused:
btk
BobAllen1290
10-10-2013, 02:29 PM
You are right, sir. Time to legalize it.
Absolutely wrong! What I think about those who use illegal drugs cannot be said here. I think it is shameful that so many people in TV think it is OK, or just a joke. How very sad.
buggyone
10-10-2013, 02:47 PM
Absolutely wrong! What I think about those who use illegal drugs cannot be said here. I think it is shameful that so many people in TV think it is OK, or just a joke. How very sad.
I did not see a reply to say what you would have done if you witnessed a couple of janitors smoking a joint after hours at a Rec. Center - and if you honestly thought a police car would respond to such a call.
happy employee
10-10-2013, 03:04 PM
Personally i'll take my chances with a high janitor driving home over a drunk Villager in a golfcart.......any day!!!!
Bonnevie
10-10-2013, 03:09 PM
first off, smoking a joint is probably only a misdemeanor.....I think you have to have a certain amount on you before it becomes serious....I suspect a cop would only confiscate it and tell them to go on their way, at least if he was smart. Courts don't want to deal with misdemeanors. But btw, once had a sheriff's deputy say he'd much rather deal with a person who smoked pot over a drunk.....said drunks get belligerent and want to fight but the pot smokers are mellow and don't cause trouble....that is not expressing any opinion on the use of illegal substances
donb9006
10-10-2013, 03:46 PM
Absolutely wrong! What I think about those who use illegal drugs cannot be said here. I think it is shameful that so many people in TV think it is OK, or just a joke. How very sad.
And why it IT illegal while alcohol isn't? Arbitrary laws.
Not that I would ever condone someone getting high on ANYTHING while working... Remember it is LEGAL in 2 stated and limited legal in some 21 others. It's not the devil you've been led to believe. I enjoy the remainder of my cruise much more after a stop in Jamaica!
red tail
10-10-2013, 04:00 PM
And why it IT illegal while alcohol isn't? Arbitrary laws.
Not that I would ever condone someone getting high on ANYTHING while working... Remember it is LEGAL in 2 stated and limited legal in some 21 others. It's not the devil you've been led to believe. I enjoy the remainder of my cruise much more after a stop in Jamaica!
probably caused by that 'jerk chicken'!:loco:
Tweety Bird
10-10-2013, 04:39 PM
We are all adults here.
Some of us are older than others but we know what pot smells like.
We didn't just fall off a turnip truck.
We have sex too.
Gracie, old but not dead.
You have sex Gracie? :loco:
BobAllen1290
10-10-2013, 05:01 PM
And why it IT illegal while alcohol isn't? Arbitrary laws.
Not that I would ever condone someone getting high on ANYTHING while working... Remember it is LEGAL in 2 stated and limited legal in some 21 others. It's not the devil you've been led to believe. I enjoy the remainder of my cruise much more after a stop in Jamaica!
I've managed all my life just fine on pure air. Don't drink, don't smoke, don't do illegal drugs. Never had any interest in any of it so I am not a hypocrite on the issue. I don't condone booze and then say pot should be illegal. The world would be better off if it was ALL illegal.
Russ_Boston
10-10-2013, 05:36 PM
that contributes to the deaths of many US Border Patrol officers and police officers of all stripes? You mean besides that? Yes..Such a little thing.
Because it's illegal. Just one more very good reason for legalization. Those brave people died for what exactly? A Shame!
Yung Dum
10-10-2013, 05:41 PM
Several years ago, while walking in back of Barnes & Noble at Sumter Landing, I spotted what the hippies call a “roach” on one of the benches. I immediately drove to Walgreens and bought some vinyl gloves and ziploc bags. I returned to the scene of the crime and bagged the evidence. I then took it to the sheriff’s office to have it tested for dna evidence. The deputies thanked me and said they would get their best detectives on the case right away. I never got word of the results of their investigation, but I’ll bet someone is now doing hard time for offense. I believe the Villages is a safer place because of my efforts.
graciegirl
10-10-2013, 06:08 PM
Oh stop.
People are entitled to respect for their opinions about upholding the law. Even if some of you don't think it is a big deal.
We were all brought up in the era of rule following.
Making scathing posts toward someone who is truly sincere isn't pretty or nice.
Perhaps someday the rules will change, but for now it is illegal.
And we act like cocky teenagers when we brag about drinking or toking.
It ain't becomin'.
Pepperhead
10-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Oh stop.
People are entitled to respect for their opinions about upholding the law.
That kind of depends on how they choose to express their opinions.
NECHFalcon68
10-10-2013, 06:33 PM
Absolutely wrong! What I think about those who use illegal drugs cannot be said here. I think it is shameful that so many people in TV think it is OK, or just a joke. How very sad.
And since it is The Villages, with happy hours at all times of day, I assume most would have been OK with the employee having a six pack instead of a joint...:confused:
Bogie Shooter
10-10-2013, 06:45 PM
Several years ago, while walking in back of Barnes & Noble at Sumter Landing, I spotted what the hippies call a “roach” on one of the benches. I immediately drove to Walgreens and bought some vinyl gloves and ziploc bags. I returned to the scene of the crime and bagged the evidence. I then took it to the sheriff’s office to have it tested for dna evidence. The deputies thanked me and said they would get their best detectives on the case right away. I never got word of the results of their investigation, but I’ll bet someone is now doing hard time for offense. I believe the Villages is a safer place because of my efforts.
And costing us thousands of $ to keep this really bad guy/gal in prison. Maybe caused another prison to be built. Oh, that's OK as the prison industry lobbing effort has paid off.
BTW you never got word because they had more important crimes to be solved......................
Yung Dum
10-10-2013, 07:01 PM
And costing us thousands of $ to keep this really bad guy/gal in prison. Maybe caused another prison to be built. Oh, that's OK as the prison industry lobbing effort has paid off.
BTW you never got word because they had more important crimes to be solved......................
You thought I was being serious? I think we're on the same page. I did actually find a roach on a bench, but I burned the evidence.
Jim 9922
10-10-2013, 07:02 PM
And since it is The Villages, with happy hours at all times of day, I assume most would have been OK with the employee having a six pack instead of a joint...:confused:
Not in any of the companies I am associated with or have been involved with. They would be out the door, on the spot, and with no recourse! In fact, I'm in favor of, and always try to implement, random drug and immediate internal alcohol testing for all levels of employees. If that bothers you, go work for someone who will tolerate sub-par efforts, potentially unsafe worker conditions, sloppy or dangerous customer service and a wide range of other problems.
TexaninVA
10-10-2013, 07:37 PM
By all means, please assume that my post (and every other post on this board) is a complete fabrication. I had nothing better to do with my time than make it up.
If I ever DO witness such an event, I'll be sure to measure how far I am from the blunt. I'll carry a home drug test also, and collect pee, and take pictures, as well, to confirm that everything that I post on a message board will documented. But it won't matter, somebody will still try to pick the post apart. :rolleyes:
Nicely put :)
jblum315
10-10-2013, 07:44 PM
OH, sure, a lot more accidents caused by pot smokers than by drunk drivers! You betcha!
Patty55
10-10-2013, 07:47 PM
I would never take a golf cart ride to Walmart at that time of night.
asianthree
10-10-2013, 07:56 PM
ya know that medical weed is the best around...:wave:
NECHFalcon68
10-10-2013, 08:27 PM
Not in any of the companies I am associated with or have been involved with. They would be out the door, on the spot, and with no recourse! In fact, I'm in favor of, and always try to implement, random drug and immediate internal alcohol testing for all levels of employees. If that bothers you, go work for someone who will tolerate sub-par efforts, potentially unsafe worker conditions, sloppy or dangerous customer service and a wide range of other problems.
I agree with you...most of the responses appear to be telling the OP to "lighten up" ( no pun intended)...I was just making the point that whether illegal or not, it's not something that should be condoned with any employee...
Topspinmo
10-10-2013, 09:17 PM
hey, DAA DUDE was taking break:loco:, "Should of said "DUDE" don't smoke that joint on village property:swear:! But Daa Dude would say, I see Baby Boomers smoking their doobie's all the time in these villages so chill! So the Big Lebowski taking hit... HEY! "The DUDE not in! " leave message"
donb9006
10-10-2013, 09:18 PM
Not in any of the companies I am associated with or have been involved with. They would be out the door, on the spot, and with no recourse! In fact, I'm in favor of, and always try to implement, random drug and immediate internal alcohol testing for all levels of employees. If that bothers you, go work for someone who will tolerate sub-par efforts, potentially unsafe worker conditions, sloppy or dangerous customer service and a wide range of other problems.
You think only people "on drugs" are like that? If you ask me, it applies to just about anyone under 30...
Jim 9922
10-10-2013, 09:43 PM
You think only people "on drugs" are like that? If you ask me, it applies to just about anyone under 30...
Sorry you believe that way. I have found the opposite to be true. Yes, there will always be a minority of bad apples in any bin. I've always tried to weed those out and further avoid them if possible.
SALYBOW
10-10-2013, 10:00 PM
We have sex too.
Gracie, old but not dead.
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Good for you Gracie!!!
Not in any of the companies I am associated with or have been involved with. They would be out the door, on the spot, and with no recourse! In fact, I'm in favor of, and always try to implement, random drug and immediate internal alcohol testing for all levels of employees. If that bothers you, go work for someone who will tolerate sub-par efforts, potentially unsafe worker conditions, sloppy or dangerous customer service and a wide range of other problems.
I see both sides of this discussion - I think the problem lies not with the smoking of pot, so much as doing it while working. We come from an era that respected our elders, followed rules and had self respect for ourselves and the people around us. We might go out for a beer or two after work, but would not have considered having a beer while working. Yes, yes...it is illegal, but times have changed a great deal about almost everything that I believed in during my youth. We are kinda on a "slippery slope" in our society now. Drug use and sex are glorified on the television and at the movies. Stuff that would have been considered disgraceful 50 years ago is commonplace today. It will be very interesting to watch society over the next decade or two (God willing).
Barefoot
10-10-2013, 11:30 PM
Several years ago, while walking in back of Barnes & Noble at Sumter Landing, I spotted what the hippies call a “roach” on one of the benches. I immediately drove to Walgreens and bought some vinyl gloves and ziploc bags. I returned to the scene of the crime and bagged the evidence. I then took it to the sheriff’s office to have it tested for dna evidence. The deputies thanked me and said they would get their best detectives on the case right away. I never got word of the results of their investigation, but I’ll bet someone is now doing hard time for offense. I believe the Villages is a safer place because of my efforts.
It's sometimes nice to have a "dark" topic lightened up with a little levity. :jester:
Golfingnut
10-11-2013, 04:22 AM
You mean besides the fact that it's illegal?? You mean besides that fact that their illegal drug use is contributing to a serious national criminal operation that contributes to the deaths of many US Border Patrol officers and police officers of all stripes? You mean besides that? Yes..Such a little thing.
And of course we know that it is less harmful than alcohol to the individual and the rest of us. Alcohol kills, pot makes people hungry.
Golfingnut
10-11-2013, 04:35 AM
Oh great. Here we go.
The nice lady took a ride in the middle of the night, and ran into someone smelling like pure Columbian and now we are going to have a big ole argument.
There are a bunch of nice folks riding around too in the middle of the night and they are The Village Watch.
Perhaps, you know, they need to know stuff like this, it is important to feel needed.
I have a headache. Don't fight.
There would be no debate if not baited by silly comments that appear to have came right out of refer madness. I don't smoke the stuff, but I know some that do and they are far more caring people to be around than the bourbon crowd. It seems to be so easy to suck up a few drinks and become THE authority on things you know nothing about.
OH. Good morning and hope your headache if gone.
Golfingnut
10-11-2013, 04:44 AM
Absolutely wrong! What I think about those who use illegal drugs cannot be said here. I think it is shameful that so many people in TV think it is OK, or just a joke. How very sad.
Perhaps if you knew more about it, you would understand that it is a safe recreational drug when com paired to alcohol or red bull.
senior citizen
10-11-2013, 05:31 AM
You mean besides the fact that it's illegal?? You mean besides that fact that their illegal drug use is contributing to a serious national criminal operation that contributes to the deaths of many US Border Patrol officers and police officers of all stripes? You mean besides that? Yes..Such a little thing.
20 Legal Medical Marijuana States and DC - Medical Marijuana - ProCon.org (http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000881)
I don't see Florida listed as far as medical marijuana being legal....
But amazed at all of these states........including our own, Vermont
Many times when we'd drive down avenues in the city of Denver , we could see leftover hippy types sitting right out on the street with their marijuana for sale.
The more liberal a state gets.....this is what happens.....
I understand why she was surprised......it's not legal in Florida...."if" he was on medical marijuana....or whatever kind.
If you scroll all the way down to the bottom........it goes into detail on each state that does allow it.
Golfingnut
10-11-2013, 05:56 AM
Not surprising that florida is lagging behind the country on issues like Marijuana. Us older folks tend to get locked into what was rather that what should be.
Majority Now Support Marijuana Legalization, Poll Finds (http://abcnews.go.com/politics/t/blogEntry?id=18881210&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dpolls %2Bon%2Blegalization%2Bof%2Bmarijuana%26form%3DAPI PA1)
Parker
10-11-2013, 06:05 AM
The OP was just putting the info out there. I'm glad she did. The smoking guy didn't commit murder, but he sure isn't putting his best effort into the job we pay him to do.
graciegirl
10-11-2013, 06:34 AM
The OP was just putting the info out there. I'm glad she did. The smoking guy didn't commit murder, but he sure isn't putting his best effort into the job we pay him to do.
Parker. Always the voice of reason and ability to see the bottom line.
We DO love to debate on this forum.
I say tomato, you say to-mah-to.
Doobee doo beee dooooo.:sing:
I agree with you...most of the responses appear to be telling the OP to "lighten up" ( no pun intended)...I was just making the point that whether illegal or not, it's not something that should be condoned with any employee...
Sure but it's OK for them to be on Zanax and Ambian and aspirin and.....?
Golfingnut
10-11-2013, 07:07 AM
Sure but it's OK for them to be on Zanax and Ambian and aspirin and.....?
Hence the problem. Legal drug companies make billions on their product. If they do not control it, we tax payers fund criminalization of it, fund prisons to house the offenders etc. It may be the pot that keeps the janitor on the job at minimum wage. And please do not try to compare drinking and driving with smoking and driving.
BettyCrocked
10-11-2013, 07:21 AM
Parker. Always the voice of reason and ability to see the bottom line.
We DO love to debate on this forum.
I say tomato, you say to-mah-to.
Doobee doo beee dooooo.:sing:
I see what you did there. :a20:
BettyCrocked
10-11-2013, 07:23 AM
I see both sides of this discussion - I think the problem lies not with the smoking of pot, so much as doing it while working. We come from an era that respected our elders, followed rules and had self respect for ourselves and the people around us. We might go out for a beer or two after work, but would not have considered having a beer while working. Yes, yes...it is illegal, but times have changed a great deal about almost everything that I believed in during my youth. We are kinda on a "slippery slope" in our society now. Drug use and sex are glorified on the television and at the movies. Stuff that would have been considered disgraceful 50 years ago is commonplace today. It will be very interesting to watch society over the next decade or two (God willing).
Before we get back to these blanket generalizations about entire generations, remember that was the era of free love and Woodstock. Where drug use and sex were glorified.
Golfingnut
10-11-2013, 07:36 AM
Before we get back to these blanket generalizations about entire generations, remember that was the era of free love and Woodstock. Where drug use and sex were glorified.
And what? Am I bad because I think sex should be glorified as ones of mankind's greatest gifts.
DaleMN
10-11-2013, 07:37 AM
I went for a golf cart ride once and saw some of that spanish moss on a live oak tree. :p
graciegirl
10-11-2013, 07:53 AM
Before we get back to these blanket generalizations about entire generations, remember that was the era of free love and Woodstock. Where drug use and sex were glorified.
Some posters always seem to observe us other posters, rather than thinking of themselves as one of us, some use terms like "old biddies", bring up things like Depends, mention that someone older picked a fight with someone younger at the square and even some took me on for my comments about the "ethical generation".
I say that posters either ARE or ARE NOT senior citizens, and if posters are not, they will be.
And we aren't any of us getting younger, just BETTER.
And some of us LIKE to make blanket generalizations about entire generations. There is the great generation, the wonderful generation, the boomers and the snots.
I have spoken. ;)
NECHFalcon68
10-11-2013, 07:57 AM
Sure but it's OK for them to be on Zanax and Ambian and aspirin and.....?
Isn't it ironic, dontcha think?
NECHFalcon68
10-11-2013, 08:12 AM
And of course we know that it is less harmful than alcohol to the individual and the rest of us. Alcohol kills, pot makes people hungry.
So I guess folks wouldn't have a problem with a pilot smoking a joint between flights, or a Surgeon, or the Airport van driver?
BettyCrocked
10-11-2013, 08:20 AM
I don't think anyone should get so hung up on the term old biddie. Heck, I've described myself as one at times! When redwitch first said it, she then explained it.
"Um, Gracie, you are not an old biddie. An old biddie is mean-spirited, jealous of those younger, healthier, richer, etc. An old biddie does her absolute best to make those around her feel inferior. BTW -- I've known old biddies who are in their 20s. It just happens that this go round I mentioned old biddies in their 60s and 70s. It ain't an age thing, it's a behavior thang."
Some posters always seem to observe us other posters, rather than thinking of themselves as one of us, some use terms like "old biddies", bring up things like Depends, mention that someone older picked a fight with someone younger at the square and even some took me on for my comments about the "ethical generation".
I say that posters either ARE or ARE NOT senior citizens, and if posters are not, they will be.
And we aren't any of us getting younger, just BETTER.
And some of us LIKE to make blanket generalizations about entire generations. There is the great generation, the wonderful generation, the boomers and the snots.
I have spoken. ;)
BettyCrocked
10-11-2013, 08:22 AM
And what? Am I bad because I think sex should be glorified as ones of mankind's greatest gifts.
I don't know, ask the poster who said it's a bad thing.
graciegirl
10-11-2013, 09:07 AM
I don't think anyone should get so hung up on the term old biddie. Heck, I've described myself as one at times! When redwitch first said it, she then explained it.
"Um, Gracie, you are not an old biddie. An old biddie is mean-spirited, jealous of those younger, healthier, richer, etc. An old biddie does her absolute best to make those around her feel inferior. BTW -- I've known old biddies who are in their 20s. It just happens that this go round I mentioned old biddies in their 60s and 70s. It ain't an age thing, it's a behavior thang."
Sigh. Then I AM an old biddy.
But I wasn't always.
donb9006
10-11-2013, 09:33 AM
Sure but it's OK for them to be on Zanax and Ambian and aspirin and.....?
Isn't it ironic, dontcha think?
And it's funny...those getting "their fix", are the first to judge others on their choice of "meds".
So I guess folks wouldn't have a problem with a pilot smoking a joint between flights, or a Surgeon, or the Airport van driver?
So you have no problem with them doing a few shots of whiskey? It's what you imply...alcohol is legal so they can drink any time...between flights, before surgery, before hitting the road...
Why did you make that leap? Just because I may wish something to be legal, doesn't mean I wish people to go crazy with it. They can enjoy it after work, on the weekend, just like people enjoy their alcohol. They both have very similar effects...except alcohol makes you prone to violence, makes you sick, and makes you lose inhibition and do things you shouldn't do. Marijuana is the "buzz" without those side effects. It's why 20 states have decided prohibition of it is pointless. The legal drug manufacturers (big pharma), the alcohol makers (Beer, wine, spirits), are the ones who keep pushing for it to be illegal. Their market would plummet. They know that.
TexaninVA
10-11-2013, 12:46 PM
Several years ago, while walking in back of Barnes & Noble at Sumter Landing, I spotted what the hippies call a “roach” on one of the benches. I immediately drove to Walgreens and bought some vinyl gloves and ziploc bags. I returned to the scene of the crime and bagged the evidence. I then took it to the sheriff’s office to have it tested for dna evidence. The deputies thanked me and said they would get their best detectives on the case right away. I never got word of the results of their investigation, but I’ll bet someone is now doing hard time for offense. I believe the Villages is a safer place because of my efforts.
The OP started this thread by making a reasonable comment ... workers were smoking pot on the job, and she expressed surprise with the implication she did not approve. Now, some posters may want to legalize pot or not, but using drugs on the job is a common sense no-no and it is not difficult to understand why it should not be permitted.
I also note that a number of posters seem to express trendy opinions about this as well ... recycling the arguments we've all heard our entire lives. It's no worse than alcohol etc, don't be so up-tight yadda, or using sarcasm to write snarky replies and in effect belittle the OP.
If you think it's ok for maintenance workers to smoke pot on the job, and using your amenities fees, just come out say it plainly. I am curious to see who truly support such a position.
I don't know, ask the poster who said it's a bad thing.
If you are implying my post stated that sex is bad, I believe you just want to argue. I will repeat that drug use and sex are glorified on the television and at the movies. This was not the case years ago and it will be interesting to see where society goes from here. I was a flower-child and even lived very close to Haight-Asbury. Yes, there was Woodstock and most of us seem to have survived that. Each generation has their unique traits and many of us remember ours as the generation of "free love" and all. But we also remember growing up, going to college, getting a job, getting married and having children.......in that order. Yes, as we grew beyond smokin, drinking and free sex, we moved beyond the sweetness of youth to grow-up to be responsible persons - holding jobs and raising families. Will that be the same path for the youth of society today? Who knows - certainly not me. But I do worry that more and more youth of our society see life as one big dangerous party. They don't get to see June Cleaver or Ozzie and Harriet types. Their role-models on TV and at the movies portray a life full of drug use, murder and violence. Many teens don't have employment, have mom and dad supporting them and play (often violent) video games all day. If they do have a job, smoking or drinking ON-THE-JOB (as the original op posted) could be a very worrisome sign of bad things to come.
It is clearly different from our generation but who knows what will shake out in the end. I'm old....I worry.
NECHFalcon68
10-11-2013, 01:16 PM
And it's funny...those getting "their fix", are the first to judge others on their choice of "meds".
So you have no problem with them doing a few shots of whiskey? It's what you imply...alcohol is legal so they can drink any time...between flights, before surgery, before hitting the road...
Why did you make that leap? Just because I may wish something to be legal, doesn't mean I wish people to go crazy with it. They can enjoy it after work, on the weekend, just like people enjoy their alcohol. They both have very similar effects...except alcohol makes you prone to violence, makes you sick, and makes you lose inhibition and do things you shouldn't do. Marijuana is the "buzz" without those side effects. It's why 20 states have decided prohibition of it is pointless. The legal drug manufacturers (big pharma), the alcohol makers (Beer, wine, spirits), are the ones who keep pushing for it to be illegal. Their market would plummet. They know that.
I guess my sarcasm is lost here.
For the record, I do have problem with them doing a few shots of whiskey.
BobAllen1290
10-11-2013, 03:55 PM
Because it's illegal. Just one more very good reason for legalization. Those brave people died for what exactly? A Shame!
Russ.. I can't believe what you just said. You..a healthcare professional who sees first hand the devastation that comes to people through drug abuse and you can stand there and be in favor of legalization? I'm stunned. Wow! I can't believe it.
Pepperhead
10-11-2013, 04:07 PM
Smoking weed is petty stuff to fret about. That is an opinion, folks.
What if their were two people on that janitorial crew? One smoked dope but other than that was in no way a scofflaw. The other had never touched drugs or alcohol in their life but drove to the job with no drivers license and no insurance, was years behind in child support payments and had been convicted of animal cruelty? We can't see that behavior, so they get a pass while a panel of INTERNET judges focus on Joe Toke. It reminds me of a scene in the movie "Off Limits" where Dix says: "You're floating' in a big sea of **** and instead of just staying' in the boat, no, you reach out and you pick up this one little turd and you say "This turd, well THIS turd ****es me off. I'm gonna do something' about THIS turd!" "
For those who want to compile a list of TOTV potheads, include me. I have smoked for 50 years. I did stop for my last 21 years in the military because of urinalysis testing. If it is a gateway drug, the gate needs some oil, as I have never used any other illegal products....oops..scratch that...I tried true Absinthe in the backwoods of Switzerland and some weird drink in Korea that made me think I was walking two feet off the ground. The former was intentional while the latter was a blindside.
I truly believe that the Pro Weed/Anti Weed gap is generational. Weed enhances the experience when you are listening to Traffic or Santana or Iron Butterfly, but won't help Lawrence Welk at all.
Indydealmaker
10-11-2013, 04:12 PM
Smoking weed is petty stuff to fret about. That is an opinion, folks.
What if their were two people on that janitorial crew? One smoked dope but other than that was in no way a scofflaw. The other had never touched drugs or alcohol in their life but drove to the job with no drivers license and no insurance, was years behind in child support payments and had been convicted of animal cruelty? We can't see that behavior, so they get a pass while a panel of INTERNET judges focus on Joe Toke. It reminds me of a scene in the movie "Off Limits" where Dix says: "You're floating' in a big sea of **** and instead of just staying' in the boat, no, you reach out and you pick up this one little turd and you say "This turd, well THIS turd ****es me off. I'm gonna do something' about THIS turd!" "
For those who want to compile a list of TOTV potheads, include me. I have smoked for 50 years. I did stop for my last 21 years in the military because of urinalysis testing. If it is a gateway drug, the gate needs some oil, as I have never used any other illegal products....oops..scratch that...I tried true Absinthe in the backwoods of Switzerland and some weird drink in Korea that made me think I was walking two feet off the ground. The former was intentional while the latter was a blindside.
I truly believe that the Pro Weed/Anti Weed gap is generational. Weed enhances the experience when you are listening to Traffic or Santana or Iron Butterfly, but won't help Lawrence Welk at all.
So, objecting to one lone, specific activity implies acceptance of all other potentially immoral or unethical activities?
Pepperhead
10-11-2013, 04:20 PM
So, objecting to one lone, specific activity implies acceptance of all other potentially immoral or unethical activities?
Way to spin.
Russ_Boston
10-11-2013, 05:37 PM
Russ.. I can't believe what you just said. You..a healthcare professional who sees first hand the devastation that comes to people through drug abuse and you can stand there and be in favor of legalization? I'm stunned. Wow! I can't believe it.
Marijuana yes. I see numerous uses for marijuana in medicine. In fact I've mentioned this before but we use it at the hospital. Not smoking it, of course, but in pill form. I know that people argue about it's medical use but I see it working for many patients.
The point I was making is that to have border patrol agents lose their life due to marijuana smuggling is a shame. Lives lost for what? It's not noble - it's pointless.
Legalization is happening in many states as described earlier. Yes drug abuse is awful but it happens now despite all the attempts to keep it out of the country. I don't think what we've been doing for the past 50 years is working. Do you? Time to try a different approach is all I'm saying. I'm a results oriented person and I don't see the results. Something must change.
Golf View
10-11-2013, 05:49 PM
That last sentence was hilarious! I can just picture OCD burglars. :loco:
I am sure almost all of us know at least the fragrance of pot. Personally, I would rather have the janitors smoke pot - outside - than to be drinking booze. I just want the Rec. centers clean. If the cleaning crew smokes a joint, so what?
Are those the only choices, smoke pot or drinking booze? How about neither. The employer should fire those people who engage in that behavior on the job. What has happened to the thinking in this country? When I worked we took a coffee break.
Golfingnut
10-11-2013, 05:52 PM
Russ.. I can't believe what you just said. You..a healthcare professional who sees first hand the devastation that comes to people through drug abuse and you can stand there and be in favor of legalization? I'm stunned. Wow! I can't believe it.
The topic is pot and not crack. Geeeeezzzzzz
donb9006
10-11-2013, 06:18 PM
Are those the only choices, smoke pot or drinking booze? How about neither. The employer should fire those people who engage in that behavior on the job. What has happened to the thinking in this country? When I worked we took a coffee break.
Coffee contains caffeine...a stimulant, a drug. You were "using drugs" during your coffee breaks. In South America, they have a coca leaf break. In Africa a Khat break. You don't think the janitor can scrub toilets and mop floors after a few puffs? Or a few beers? This black/white zero tolerance world we live in... He may be the best janitor ever after he's motivated himself with a few puffs. I knew lots of people who were completely worthless without their morning drug...their morning caffeine, their coffee. You don't know him, you assume and assume the worst. Just saying.
It seems those who judge the most harshly...haven't experienced it...haven't tried it. Kinda bigoted?
Indydealmaker
10-11-2013, 08:15 PM
Coffee contains caffeine...a stimulant, a drug. You were "using drugs" during your coffee breaks. In South America, they have a coca leaf break. In Africa a Khat break. You don't think the janitor can scrub toilets and mop floors after a few puffs? Or a few beers? This black/white zero tolerance world we live in... He may be the best janitor ever after he's motivated himself with a few puffs. I knew lots of people who were completely worthless without their morning drug...their morning caffeine, their coffee. You don't know him, you assume and assume the worst. Just saying.
It seems those who judge the most harshly...haven't experienced it...haven't tried it. Kinda bigoted?
Now someone is bigoted if they criticize someone who is breaking the law? I have never killed anyone, but if I criticize someone who has, then I am bigoted?
Really twisted. You must be just trolling.
jbdlfan
10-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Smoking weed is petty stuff to fret about. That is an opinion, folks.
What if their were two people on that janitorial crew? One smoked dope but other than that was in no way a scofflaw. The other had never touched drugs or alcohol in their life but drove to the job with no drivers license and no insurance, was years behind in child support payments and had been convicted of animal cruelty? We can't see that behavior, so they get a pass while a panel of INTERNET judges focus on Joe Toke. It reminds me of a scene in the movie "Off Limits" where Dix says: "You're floating' in a big sea of **** and instead of just staying' in the boat, no, you reach out and you pick up this one little turd and you say "This turd, well THIS turd ****es me off. I'm gonna do something' about THIS turd!" "
For those who want to compile a list of TOTV potheads, include me. I have smoked for 50 years. I did stop for my last 21 years in the military because of urinalysis testing. If it is a gateway drug, the gate needs some oil, as I have never used any other illegal products....oops..scratch that...I tried true Absinthe in the backwoods of Switzerland and some weird drink in Korea that made me think I was walking two feet off the ground. The former was intentional while the latter was a blindside.
I truly believe that the Pro Weed/Anti Weed gap is generational. Weed enhances the experience when you are listening to Traffic or Santana or Iron Butterfly, but won't help Lawrence Welk at all.
You are my new hero! Right on the mark. (Alcohol good....Weed Bad)
It also works well with Pink Floyd, ZZ Top and Lynard Skynard......sometime even Blue Oyster Cult!
Patty55
10-11-2013, 08:37 PM
You are my new hero! Right on the mark. (Alcohol good....Weed Bad)
It also works well with Pink Floyd, ZZ Top and Lynard Skynard......sometime even Blue Oyster Cult!
My pick, MOODY BLUES:wave:
nitehawk
10-12-2013, 06:44 AM
If i were their boss - they may be fired for not including me in their break
RayinPenn
10-12-2013, 07:24 AM
if they are puffing chances are they are not cleaning...
graciegirl
10-12-2013, 07:51 AM
This thread has sunk to new lows.
I can tell by reading it who has class and who hasn't.
If you are a grown up cosmopolitan citizen of the world, it is evident. You don't have to kiss and tell and show us all how you can hold your breath and what you prefer for the munchies.
It is never good to break any law. Most people look down on you.
Times have changed and things will change. Our ancestors lived through prohibition.
Bragging about smoking, toking, drinking and other activities makes people think you are immature.
Please pull your collective dresses down, You are showing your collective asses.
donb9006
10-12-2013, 07:55 AM
Now someone is bigoted if they criticize someone who is breaking the law? I have never killed anyone, but if I criticize someone who has, then I am bigoted?
Really twisted. You must be just trolling.
I'll make this really simple... Just because it's a "law" doesn't mean it's fair or just...or should be a "law". Many laws are political.
You're comparing someone taking a few tokes to someone committing murder... Really? You find that a good analogy? Comparable "offenses"?
graciegirl
10-12-2013, 07:57 AM
This thread has sunk to new lows.
I can tell by reading it who has class and who hasn't.
If you are a grown up cosmopolitan citizen of the world, it is evident. You don't have to kiss and tell and show us all how you can hold your breath and what you prefer for the munchies.
It is never good to break any law. Most people look down on you.
Times have changed and things will change. Our ancestors lived through prohibition.
Bragging about smoking, toking, drinking and other activities makes people think you are immature.
Please pull your collective dresses down, You are showing your collective asses.
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