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tpop1
10-30-2013, 07:10 PM
As a long time baseball fan, I hate that I have to be suspicious of every player performance that is above the norm.

For example:


Chris Davis's 53 home runs this year after averaging approx. 15.5 for his first 5 MLB seasons,

Jose Bautista's 54 HR's in 2010 and 43 in 2011 when he never even hit 20 in any previous year, and

Certainly David Ortiz hitting better than .700 in this year's world Series.


No great performance can go unquestioned.

Anyone else feel this way?

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CFrance
10-30-2013, 07:26 PM
[QUOTE=tpop1;771328]As a long time baseball fan, I hate that I have to be suspicious of every player performance that is above the norm.

For example:


Chris Davis's 53 home runs this year after averaging approx. 15.5 for his first 5 MLB seasons,

Jose Bautista's 54 HR's in 2010 and 43 in 2011 when he never even hit 20 in any previous year, and

Certainly David Ortiz hitting better than .700 in this year's world Series.




No great performance can go unquestioned.

Anyone else feel this way?


A Yankees fan questioning the performance of a Red Sox player. I'm stunned. :22yikes:

Challenger
10-30-2013, 07:31 PM
Yes

tpop1
10-30-2013, 07:41 PM
I question all players; take nothing for granted.

ARod, Jason Giambi, Canseco, Gary Sheffield, among others, were all Yankees who are tainted!!!

These players, including Ortiz, all tested positive or admitted using PED's.

My post was to the point of my disappointment of not being able to take great baseball performances at face value anymore.

CFrance
10-30-2013, 07:45 PM
I question all players; take nothing for granted.

ARod, Jason Giambi, Canseco, Gary Sheffield, among others, were all Yankees who are tainted!!!

These players, including Ortiz, all tested positive or admitted using PED's.

My post was to the point of my disappointment of not being able to take great baseball performances at face value anymore.

I was just being funny, you being a Yankees fan and the Sox being in the WS. Sorry, didn't mean anything nasty.

redwitch
10-30-2013, 07:50 PM
I used to love baseball. I quit loving it when I went to As games and saw a player who could hit but couldn't field (couldn't even catch a ball a foot over his head) become Rookie of the Year. Hated it even more when it became obvious that same player was now using roids along with Canseco. Made me question those hits in his first year as well. At least Mcgwire came clean and regretted the use but baseball let his record for '98 stand.

Baseball has become a farce. Talent is wasted because of roids. Good players become "great". Average players become "good". Great players become superstars. So, totally with you even though I question your taste in teams. (And I'm a Royals fan, so have no bone to pick with either team, just with the willingness to let their players win through drug use.)

tpop1
10-30-2013, 07:59 PM
I was just being funny, you being a Yankees fan and the Sox being in the WS. Sorry, didn't mean anything nasty.

No problem...just normal Sox / Yank back and forth!!!:smiley:

And the Sox are there and my Yanks are golfn'.