Dogs and restaurants easy Solution

[Villageshooter]

I have no problem with someone to bring dog to the restaurant, As long as they realized I have an app on my phone that will emitt high-pitched squeal That only the dog can hear, So if you have a deaf dog , He will be very happy and content around me, However if his hearing is good, He will not be a happy camper, If your little pooch starts getting upset you might want to ask for a to go box because I will not be turning the app off Kind a like going to church when you have to take the baby out to the cry room. Can be quite entertaining. the app is free in the app store, you have to fight fire with fire!

[Easyrider]

I have no problem with someone to bring dog to the restaurant, As long as they realized I have an app on my phone that will emitt high-pitched squeal That only the dog can hear, So if you have a deaf dog , He will be very happy and content around me, However if his hearing is good, He will not be a happy camper, If your little pooch starts getting upset you might want to ask for a to go box because I will not be turning the app off Kind a like going to church when you have to take the baby out to the cry room. Can be quite entertaining. the app is free in the app store, you have to fight fire with fire!

It's gonna get ugly, but I like it......only IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now the only place they are supposed to be is Cody's. .:mmmm: :police:

[Jaggy]

I am constantly amazed by people.. why in the world would you want to do that to a dog?? Is he bitting you?? did you step in his poop? Or urine?? Cruel App to entertain a bully.. I am not agreeing that dogs should be at the restaurants but provoking a dog with this is just plain mean.. GRINCH !!

[Easyrider]

I am constantly amazed by people.. why in the world would you want to do that to a dog?? Is he bitting you?? did you step in his poop? Or urine?? Cruel App to entertain a bully.. I am not agreeing that dogs should be at the restaurants but provoking a dog with this is just plain mean.. GRINCH !!

NOT....keep the cart behind the horse. IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now the only place they are supposed to be is Cody's.

[Lovey2]

Really! Find a high pitched squeal app for non-thinking dog owners. The poor pooches hafta go wherever their leash takes them.

[Jaggy]

Really! Find a high pitched squeal app for non-thinking dog owners. The poor pooches hafta go wherever their leash takes them.

Love it !!!

[Hancle704]

Is there an app that will also shut down cellphones of those that insist on carrying on loud conversations in restaurants and refuse to mute them in Church?

[TheVillageChicken]

This works for teenagers too, right?

[Villageshooter]

all is ok with me,,, however i dont care to eat and watch an animal lick various parts of its body!

[DougB]

This works for teenagers too, right?

Teenagers are more like cats than dogs

1. Neither teenagers nor cats turn their heads when you call them by name.

2. No matter what you do for them, it is not enough. Indeed, all humane efforts are barely adequate to compensate for the privilege of waiting on them hand and foot.

3. You rarely see a cat walking outside of the house with an adult human being, and it can be safely said that no teenager in his or her right mind wants to be seen in public with his or her parents.

4. Even if you tell jokes as well as David Letterman, neither your cat nor your teen will ever crack a smile.

5. No cat or teenager shares you taste in music.

6. Cats and teenagers can lie on the living-room sofa for hours on end without
moving, barely breathing.

7. Cats have nine lives. Teenagers carry on as if they did.

8. Cats and teenagers yawn in exactly the same manner, communicating that ultimate human ecstasy -- a sense of complete and utter boredom.

9. Cats and teenagers do not improve anyone's furniture.

10. Cats that are free to roam outside sometimes have been known to return in the middle of the night to deposit a dead animal in your bedroom. Teenagers are not above that sort of behaviour.

Thus, if you must raise teenagers, the best sources of advice are not other parents, but veterinarians. It is also a good idea to keep a guidebook on cats at hand at all times. And remember, above all else, put out the food and do not make any sudden moves in their direction. When they make up their minds, they will finally come to you for some affection and comfort, and it will be a triumphant moment for all concerned.

[Easyrider]

Teenagers are more like cats than dogs.

Off topic, and I assume you are not being serious and trying to be funny, but fortunately for us none of this was the case. Most teens model the behavior they see from parents.

[Pepperhead]

So a true service dog will just be collateral damage.

[redwitch]

Whoever created the app should be pelted with rotten tomatoes every time this app is used. Whoever would use such an app to hurt an innocent dog deserves to be hung by his or her short hairs.

[johnboy]

And if there's a service dog in the same restaurant then that disabled person would have to leave also, your all heart!

[rdhdleo]

Whoever created the app should be pelted with rotten tomatoes every time this app is used. Whoever would use such an app to hurt an innocent dog deserves to be hung by his or her short hairs.

:agree::clap2:

[LndLocked]

I have and app in my head that detects pinheads when I read a posting written by one.

[graciegirl]

I have and app in my head that detects pinheads when I read a posting written by one.


Me too.

I hate bullying by anonymous people.

[CFrance]

NOT....keep the cart behind the horse. IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now that is only at Cody's.

That is not what the OP said. He made no distinction about whether the dog is in a place allowed by law or not.

[DonH57]

Why am I not surprised an app like that could really exist. Some people actually desire to harm animals for amusement. Imagine a service dog or otherwise bolting loose for safety and causing an accident at someone's jest.

[CFrance]

Why am I not surprised an app like that could really exist. Some people actually desire to harm animals for amusement. Imagine a service dog or otherwise bolting loose for safety and causing an accident at someone's jest.

There are mean-spirited bullies everywhere. There are also trolls.

[graciegirl]

Why am I not surprised an app like that could really exist. Some people actually desire to harm animals for amusement. Imagine a service dog or otherwise bolting loose for safety and causing an accident at someone's jest.

Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals.

I am more than sickened by this whole thread and ask that it be closed.
http://askthepsych.com/atp/2009/06/05/psychological-reasons-behind-animal-abuse/

[missypie]

Agree Grace. This is sick beyond words.

[Easyrider]

Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals.

I am more than sickened by this whole thread and ask that it be closed.

Maybe we should all be as passionate about protecting PEOPLE that are terrified of dogs or are allergic to them, etc. etc, etc. When we place animals over people it is definitely a sign of mental illness.

THE RESPONSIBILITY PROJECT
PETS & ANIMALS
UP FOR DEBATE: PUTTING PETS BEFORE PEOPLE
Is it O.K. for humans to care more for their pets than the people in their lives?
Writing in The Wall Street Journal, reporter Elizabeth Bernstein notes that “love triangles” between people and pets “might be the trickiest types of relationships.”
In the Florida home of Marina and Kirk Wolak, one-year-old German shepherd Buck gets better meals than his masters. Mrs. Wolak recently served the dog “steamed broccoli for breakfast, raw ribs for a snack, and a grilled chicken breast and baked sweet potato for dinner,” while her husband and daughter supped on simple chicken. Said Mr. Wolak, “There is only one answer to fixing the wedge between us, and that is to get rid of the dog.”

[graciegirl]

Maybe we should all be as passionate about protecting PEOPLE that are terrified of dogs or are allergic to them, etc. etc, etc. When we place animals over people it is definitely a sign of mental illness.

No one is placing animals over people in this situation. I am terrified of people who would act this way. Your reasoning makes no more sense than harming someone who is smoking, by making a loud blast close to their ears. EVEN if we don't like smoking and we have an allergic reaction, we aren't allowed to harm someone.

Intelligent and fair and thoughtful people remove themselves from the situation, they don't cause harm.

[Carl in Tampa]

This is simple. Florida law prohibits animals inside restaurants with the exception of Service Dogs. All other animals are prohibited.

In some jurisdictions, where specific enabling laws have been passed, pet dogs (only dogs) may be allowed in OUTSIDE dining areas.

Therefore, there can be no excuse for doing anything to discomfit Service Dogs inside a restaurant or pet dogs in an outside dining area, where authorized, since both are lawfully present.

Shame on anyone who would do so.

http://restaurantandlodging.com/storage/docs/2011-03-15%20Doggie%20Dining%20Bulletin.pdf

:police:

[Easyrider]

No one is placing animals over people in this situation. I am terrified of people who would act this way. Your reasoning makes no more sense than harming someone who is smoking, by making a loud blast close to their ears. EVEN if we don't like smoking and we have an allergic reaction, we aren't allowed to harm someone.

Intelligent and fair and thoughtful people remove themselves from the situation, they don't cause harm.

Your opposing opinion is noted but it makes perfect sense, putting and animal's rights over a human's rights. If it is legal to smoke there then you should leave if you don't like smoke. If the dog is allowed there then you should leave if you are afraid of dogs. If the dog is where it should not be then the dog should leave. No one is complaining about true service dogs either. Dogs are subjected to high pitch sounds all the time throughout the day such as sirens etc. Some are acting like you would be setting off an explosion beside them, good grief....

Foolish to compare this app to animal abuse and if so then pets are being repeatedly abused by bringing them out to where they are subjected to sirens and other loud high frequency sounds...

Try and explain it to this restaurant worker...

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/18/3009181/dog-mauling-on-lincoln-road-worries.html

It’s unclear what set off the cane corso breed that ripped into waitress Amy Calandrella’s lip on Sept. 1. When the Van Dyke Cafe server bent down to give a dog a bowl of water, the dog bit her lip. She needed more than 300 stitches and underwent more than seven hours of surgery to repair the wound.

[DonH57]

As a responsible dog owner I know where and when to take my dog in public. I also know part of the reason people fear dogs or other animals is because they don't understand them or their nature.

[CFrance]

[QUOTE=Easyrider;773757]Makes perfect sense, putting and animal's rights over a human's rights. If it legal to smoke there then you should leave. If the dog is allowed there then you should leave if afraid of dogs. If the dog is where it should not be then the dog should leave. Dogs are subjected to high pitch sounds all the time throughout the day such as sirens etc. Some are acting like you would be setting off an explosion beside them, good grief....

Try and explain it to this restaurant worker...

Dog mauling on Lincoln Road worries pet owners and cafe servers - Miami-Dade - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/18/3009181/dog-mauling-on-lincoln-road-worries.html)

It’s unclear what set off the cane corso breed that ripped into waitress Amy Calandrella’s lip on Sept. 1. When the Van Dyke Cafe server bent down to give a dog a bowl of water, the dog bit her lip. She needed more than 300 stitches and underwent more than seven hours of surgery to repair the wound.[/QUOTE

A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty.

[Indydealmaker]

NOT....keep the cart behind the horse. IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now that is only at Cody's.

So, if I read you correctly, you are saying the only place they are not supposed to be is Cody's?

[Indydealmaker]

Maybe we should all be as passionate about protecting PEOPLE that are terrified of dogs or are allergic to them, etc. etc, etc. When we place animals over people it is definitely a sign of mental illness.

Are you sure you are a biker? Most bikers I ride with would far more prefer animals over people. Dogs are rarely rude and judgmental.

[Carl in Tampa]

Is there an app that will also shut down cellphones of those that insist on carrying on loud conversations in restaurants and refuse to mute them in Church?

Believe it or not, there IS a piece of equipment that will do this. It is not an app, but equipment. For decades some police agency Hostage Negotiators have had it available.

It simulates being a cell tower and "captures" all nearby cell phone signals, keeping them from going to an actual tower where they can complete a call.

The purpose is to prevent the bad guys from communicating with anyone other than the negotiators.

Unfortunately, it is not available to the general population, and its use would be illegal anyway. It is illegal to interfere with wire and wireless communications in this manner.

:police:

[Easyrider]

So, if I read you correctly, you are saying the only place they are not supposed to be is Cody's?

I think if you read it Cody's is the only outside place they are allowed..or at least that has the proper permit whether they meet all the requirements or not.

[Easyrider]

[QUOTE=Easyrider;773757]Makes perfect sense, putting and animal's rights over a human's rights. If it legal to smoke there then you should leave. If the dog is allowed there then you should leave if afraid of dogs. If the dog is where it should not be then the dog should leave. Dogs are subjected to high pitch sounds all the time throughout the day such as sirens etc. Some are acting like you would be setting off an explosion beside them, good grief....

Try and explain it to this restaurant worker...

Dog mauling on Lincoln Road worries pet owners and cafe servers - Miami-Dade - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/18/3009181/dog-mauling-on-lincoln-road-worries.html)

It’s unclear what set off the cane corso breed that ripped into waitress Amy Calandrella’s lip on Sept. 1. When the Van Dyke Cafe server bent down to give a dog a bowl of water, the dog bit her lip. She needed more than 300 stitches and underwent more than seven hours of surgery to repair the wound.[/QUOTE

A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty.

Of course not since we choose to expose them to sirens...it is OK..

Sirens
A dog's mournful howling at sirens has been assumed to be triggered by pain, or at least, an unpleasant sensation.


THE RESPONSIBILITY PROJECT
PETS & ANIMALS
UP FOR DEBATE: PUTTING PETS BEFORE PEOPLE
Is it O.K. for humans to care more for their pets than the people in their lives?
Writing in The Wall Street Journal, reporter Elizabeth Bernstein notes that “love triangles” between people and pets “might be the trickiest types of relationships.”
In the Florida home of Marina and Kirk Wolak, one-year-old German shepherd Buck gets better meals than his masters. Mrs. Wolak recently served the dog “steamed broccoli for breakfast, raw ribs for a snack, and a grilled chicken breast and baked sweet potato for dinner,” while her husband and daughter supped on simple chicken. Said Mr. Wolak, “There is only one answer to fixing the wedge between us, and that is to get rid of the dog.”

[Easyrider]

Are you sure you are a biker? Most bikers I ride with would far more prefer animals over people. Dogs are rarely rude and judgmental.


Owning a bike doesn't turn anyone into an animal fanatic.

Dogs are not rude, Tell that to the waitress in the link below that needed 300 stitches....thanks to a dog, I do value people over animals...every-time and especially those many children killed or that have their faces torn to pieces and scarred for life by an animal.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/18/3009181/dog-mauling-on-lincoln-road-worries.html

[wendyquat]

Frankly I DO like animals more than most people! They love without reservation and they don't SPOUT off with stupid ideas!:0000000000luvmyhors:doggie::doggie::doggie:

[CFrance]

[quote=CFrance;773761]

Of course not since we choose to do it...it is OK...”

Huh? What does that have to do with my response (which you quoted), which was: " A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty."

[Easyrider]

A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty.

Sirens
A dog's mournful howling at sirens has been assumed to be triggered by pain, or at least, an unpleasant sensation.

Try getting some proof that it is animal cruelty and then post it.

Animal cruelty, NOT according to the experts..

Are dog whistles humane and safe for my 1 year german shepherd?
• David R asked 4 years ago
So I just got this dog from he pound last week. He's really kind and sweet but sometimes he can be a little rough and too playful. He sometimes jumps on me or even tries to bite me. He won listen when I yell stop or wag my finger in front of him, but I downloaded this dog whistle application on my phone and it really scares my dog when I use it. However, I wanna know if it is safe to use and if it wont permanently harm him or make him want to attack me and turn on me?!?!?


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Yes they are humane. So is Clicker Training. you can also get noise emitter collars that you activate by remote control when he is doing something he shouldn't be doing.

Dogs are happier when they know what their parameters are and have clear uncomplicated instructions from their owners.

Enroll in a novice obedience school....be active in being together and teaching him. Shepherds love to work and have tasks before them. They can be great dogs! Go for it.

Commit time for simple training everyday or walks. Have fun.

[Barefoot]

Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals. I am more than sickened by this whole thread .....

I agree Gracie. Some people actually think it is funny to hurt animals. Sad. :ohdear:

[kittygilchrist]

Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals.

I am more than sickened by this whole thread and ask that it be closed.
Psychological Reasons Behind Animal Abuse (http://askthepsych.com/atp/2009/06/05/psychological-reasons-behind-animal-abuse/)

Gracie, in my past life as an expert witness in child abuse, I learned that there are three such indicators of a sick mind in a child:
cruelty to animals
setting fires
self injury

This thread is the most distasteful I have read yet...that people sit around fantasizing how to make animals suffer. That is really sick.

[Easyrider]

I agree Gracie. Some people actually think it is funny to hurt animals. Sad. :ohdear:

Hurt animals, say what? Dragging them around where they don't belong is much worse but we justify it because that's what we want to do ...:1rotfl:

[CFrance]

[quote=CFrance;773761]



Try getting some proof of that and then post it.

Animal cruelty, NOT according to the experts..

Are dog whistles humane and safe for my 1 year german shepherd?
• David R asked 4 years ago
So I just got this dog from he pound last week. He's really kind and sweet but sometimes he can be a little rough and too playful. He sometimes jumps on me or even tries to bite me. He won listen when I yell stop or wag my finger in front of him, but I downloaded this dog whistle application on my phone and it really scares my dog when I use it. However, I wanna know if it is safe to use and if it wont permanently harm him or make him want to attack me and turn on me?!?!?


Reply
Yes they are humane. So is Clicker Training. you can also get noise emitter collars that you activate by remote control when he is doing something he shouldn't be doing.

Dogs are happier when they know what their parameters are and have clear uncomplicated instructions from their owners.

Enroll in a novice obedience school....be active in being together and teaching him. Shepherds love to work and have tasks before them. They can be great dogs! Go for it.

Commit time for simple training everyday or walks. Have fun.

It absolutely does hurt the dog's ears. The use of it to ward off a dog in attack mode is one thing; the use of it for purposes of amusing yourself at a restaurant is cruelty to animals.

[Easyrider]

[quote=Easyrider;773779]

It absolutely does hurt the dog's ears. The use of it to ward off a dog in attack mode is one thing; the use of it for purposes of amusing yourself at a restaurant is cruelty to animals.

Find some proof from a reliable source and post it.....

[CFrance]

[quote=CFrance;773788]

Find some proof from a reliable source and post it.....

Just use bigger print...

[Easyrider]

[quote=Easyrider;773790]

Just use bigger print...

Can't seem to understand the regular print.....

[Barefoot]

Hurt animals, say what? Dragging them around where they don't belong is much worse ...

"Where they don't belong" ... May I respectfully suggest that dog haters could just avoid restaurants that permit dogs on outside patios. If you see a dog, just leave! Problem solved. You have a choice of most restaurants where they're not permitted.

There are a few restaurants that welcome pets outside. It's just wrong to hurt innocent dogs when they're on patios where they are permitted.

[Easyrider]

"Where they don't belong" ... May I respectfully suggest that dog haters could just avoid restaurants that permit dogs on outside patios. If you see a dog, just leave! Problem solved. You have a choice of most restaurants where they're not permitted.

There are a few restaurants that welcome pets outside. Please don't suggest hurting innocent dogs, when they're on patios where they are permitted.


I love dogs where they belong but I am not a dog fanatic. Hurting innocent dogs is a ridiculous statement...People should leave and the dog stays where it should not be, sure...
I never go to Codys for this reason which is the only place dogs are legally allowed on the outside patio..we've all been through all this many times and still people want to take dogs where the law says they are not allowed. If permits are obtained by other restaurants so be it..owners just cannot grasp, cannot understand, or refuse to accept that according to the law unless there is a permit dogs are not supposed to be there. No permit, No dogs, problem solved.

May I respectfully suggest that dog owners stop taking dogs to restaurant patios that do not have the required permit?

[kittygilchrist]

[quote=CFrance;773788]

Find some proof from a reliable source and post it.....

The New Animal Doctor's Answer Book - Michael W. Fox - Google Books (http://books.google.com/books?id=xUn38_nJiVAC&pg=PA202&lpg=PA202&dq=does+high+pitch+hurt+dogs+ears&source=bl&ots=tuWb-uA0iC&sig=_Y4PmeVH1VkppQbMQGGYD3VPmQA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2iN3UsKNHangsATn7oG4BQ&ved=0CHAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=does%20high%20pitch%20hurt%20dogs%20ears&f=false)

[Easyrider]

[quote=Easyrider;773790]

The New Animal Doctor's Answer Book - Michael W. Fox - Google Books (http://books.google.com/books?id=xUn38_nJiVAC&pg=PA202&lpg=PA202&dq=does+high+pitch+hurt+dogs+ears&source=bl&ots=tuWb-uA0iC&sig=_Y4PmeVH1VkppQbMQGGYD3VPmQA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2iN3UsKNHangsATn7oG4BQ&ved=0CHAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=does%20high%20pitch%20hurt%20dogs%20ears&f=false)

I suppose this was supposed to prove something? Some music makes me howl too....says it is only a dogs social response to the music..

[Barefoot]

May I respectfully suggest that dog owners stop taking dogs to restaurant patios that do not have the required permit?

Dogs are welcomed at a handful of restaurants in The Villages. Most dog owners know which patios are dog friendly. And that's all I have to say on this topic. Adios and sleep well.

[Easyrider]

Dogs are welcomed at a handful of restaurants in The Villages. Most dog owners know which patios are dog friendly. And that's all I have to say on this topic. Adios and sleep well.

Anywhere in the The Villages is illegal except Codys according to Florida law. Dog friendly is not an option unless it is dog legal first which apparently many dog owners choose to ignore and think it is OK.

I am done on this, I don't even use an I Phone and probably should have never allowed myself to be drawn into this same old worn out subject again in the first place.

It really went off a cliff this time, but then I did predict it would in post # 2 ..:wave:

[Parker]

Close this thread please! It was ugly to start with, and is getting uglier.

[jblum315]

People who are terrified of dogs should stay away from places where they might encounter dogs, such as Cody's (where dogs are legally permitted at outside tables), the streets around the Village squares, the mailbox areas and, in fact, all Village streets. They should not visit a friend who might have a dog and if they enter a home where there is a dog, they should loudly demand that the dog be locked up. They should not travel to countries where they might see dogs. They MAY visit zoos where there are all kinds of potentially aggressive animals but not dogs.