Rumors Heard On The Street

[AriaGrandparents2013]

Been hearing the following rumors on the street as I venture in and around The Villages........True ?.......or........False?

1. There will be a Dunkin Donuts in Paddock Square Brownwoods across from the cinemas.

2. There is under construction or will be soon starting construction of a very large high end Mall along Route 44 east of The Villages.

3. Disney is to purchase a large parcel of land near or adjacent to The Villages to construct another planned community similar to their existing Celebration community.

4.Costco will be constructing a store along Route 44 perhaps within the Mall complex mentioned in Item 2 above.

5. There is an area within The Villages where they will start constructing exclusive Premier Homes of very high quality/costs to attract Medical Doctors.

Was wondering if any other fellow Villagers had heard any of the aforementioned and whether in your opinion any are true?

[jblum315]

Rumors! People get all excited and take it for truth.

[gomoho]

One can always hope.

[asianthree]

maybe wishfull thinking

[graciegirl]

Some may BE and some may NOT be. Doctors sometimes have little kids and one can't have little ones here. I'd vote NO mall or it would already be under construction. Not many malls being built anywhere in this country these days.


Heard all of those rumors. FROM construction workers and contractors mostly. Not the most informed source.

[tucson]

Been hearing the following rumors on the street as I venture in and around The Villages........True ?.......or........False?

1. There will be a Dunkin Donuts in Paddock Square Brownwoods across from the cinemas.

2. There is under construction or will be soon starting construction of a very large high end Mall along Route 44 east of The Villages.

3. Disney is to purchase a large parcel of land near or adjacent to The Villages to construct another planned community similar to their existing Celebration community.

4.Costco will be constructing a store along Route 44 perhaps within the Mall complex mentioned in Item 2 above.

5. There is an area within The Villages where they will start constructing exclusive Premier Homes of very high quality/costs to attract Medical Doctors.

Was wondering if any other fellow Villagers had heard any of the aforementioned and whether in your opinion any are true?

The mall is true, and the Celebration-like community is also true. Don't know about the others.

[De Lis]

The Celebration community was online a couple of days ago.

[Challenger]

The mall is true, and the Celebration-like community is also true. Don't know about the others.

Sure llike to know your source??

[Bogie Shooter]

The mall is true, and the Celebration-like community is also true. Don't know about the others.

How do you know?

[Bogie Shooter]

The Celebration community was online a couple of days ago.

Where on line?

[Bogie Shooter]

Been hearing the following rumors on the street as I venture in and around The Villages........True ?.......or........False?

1. There will be a Dunkin Donuts in Paddock Square Brownwoods across from the cinemas.

2. There is under construction or will be soon starting construction of a very large high end Mall along Route 44 east of The Villages.

3. Disney is to purchase a large parcel of land near or adjacent to The Villages to construct another planned community similar to their existing Celebration community.

4.Costco will be constructing a store along Route 44 perhaps within the Mall complex mentioned in Item 2 above.

5. There is an area within The Villages where they will start constructing exclusive Premier Homes of very high quality/costs to attract Medical Doctors.

Was wondering if any other fellow Villagers had heard any of the aforementioned and whether in your opinion any are true?

You left out the new Villages in Texas and the bowling alley and..................

[cabo35]

This is the 2006 article that prompted the Disney Celebration rumor. Indeed there seemed to be some interest in Wildwood near the Turnpike……then the economy tanked.


Developers pursue Wildwood land - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-06-18/news/LWILDWOOD18_1_wildwood-sumter-county-retirees)

[tucson]

Sure llike to know your source??

I know from people in the know, I heard in 2008 about the mall from someone in a Wildwood business and the community ( I was told in 2010) from someone that works in a county office. :-)

[Spectreron]

What would a Disney community do to our property values? I don't want to compete with Disney!

[Sagitarius 6]

Celebration and Mall were rumors 6 to 7 Years ago. Then the rumor was land bought up on 301. Maybe it takes years to get it all together.

[missypie]

Must be a rainy day with not much to do.......whoops! I'm here too!!!

[tucson]

What would a Disney community do to our property values? I don't want to compete with Disney!

I heard that it will be built south of the Fl.Turnpike, for people under 55.

[Bogie Shooter]

I heard that it will be built south of the Fl.Turnpike, for people under 55.

And everyone will have to wear Micky Mouse hats.

[graciegirl]

Count me in as skeptical.

Your sources please.

[kittygilchrist]

I'm just off the phone with a guy who owns property near 466 and 301 who says TV is going to build for medical staff on property west of 301 that will not be considered as Village residents.
ibid...haha.

[billethkid]

What about the new Season's 52 restaurant in the so called "mall"?

And the Katy Bells like establisment somewhere in Brownwood?

The past would suggest the real transactions like when/if Kohl's or Home Depot were coming or not. Most of us found out when it was announced they signed a contract.

Rumors are in the category of wishful thinking. Doesn't hurt to have them as long as no harm is done.

And I just love the authentication of a friend of the friend, or someone in high places, or even better someone who knows someone in high places, or someone in a position to know these things....really. Most people in a position to know these things are not likely to be putting out the word....they all sound like out house ramblings to me.

btk

[tucson]

What about the new Season's 52 restaurant in the so called "mall"?

And the Katy Bells like establisment somewhere in Brownwood?

The past would suggest the real transactions like when/if Kohl's or Home Depot were coming or not. Most of us found out when it was announced they signed a contract.

Rumors are in the category of wishful thinking. Doesn't hurt to have them as long as no harm is done.

And I just love the authentication of a friend of the friend, or someone in high places, or even better someone who knows someone in high places, or someone in a position to know these things....really. Most people in a position to know these things are not likely to be putting out the word....they all sound like out house ramblings to me.

btk

I was told by a major business owner on Rt 44 across from Brownwood and also a person who works in the Sumter Co. Building Dept., fyi.....:-)

[champion6]

I'm just off the phone with a guy who owns property near 466 and 301 who says TV is going to build for medical staff on property west of 301 that will not be considered as Village residents.
ibid...haha.This development is called Oxford Oaks -- west of US 301 and south of CR 466 (more precisely, north of CR 214). The Wildwood City Commission approved the development on Sept. 24, 2013.

http://www.wildwood-fl.gov/vertical/Sites/%7B2B1FDA13-2F94-4097-8D07-352D07554D9B%7D/uploads/2013.09.24_Agenda_Package_Lo.pdf
Pages 31-51.

"for medical staff" -- It will be for anyone.

"will not be considered as Villages residents" -- True.

[Bavarian]

The problem now with the big malls, enclosed, that were booming for many years is the lack of Department stores to anchor. No longer can one store anchor it and a firm like Macy's bought out many other big chains. Speaking from Philadelphia and Balti-Wash areas. They Hechts bought Woodward Lothrop, then they headed North and bought John Wanamaker, the builder of the First Department Store. Then they finagled their way and bought Strawbridge and Clothier. In between buying Lord and Taylor.

So the big Mall in Christiana DE which had Strawbridges, Bamberger's which belonged to Macys, Penneys, and Wanamakers. The beautiful Wanamakers Building was first a Lord and Taylor, but Macy's just wanted one store. Strawbridge's closed a long time now a Nordstrom, the Wanamakers torn down replaced by Target.

So, are they enough stores for a big Mall?

[Cantwaittoarrive]

You left out the new Villages in Texas and the bowling alley and..................

here is where the "new Villages" is being built. It also happens to be the same Island that Gary is involved in building a deep water port and if you call the number they answer "it's a great day in The Villages" you will also find that a model of home is called Bougainvillea and that they have set up their own health system and that they can help insure that you can close on your home in 30 days and so on and so on

http://villagesatcoverley.net/residences/the-homes

[redwitch]

To paraphrase one of the great movies lines, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a darn."

[AriaGrandparents2013]

You left out the new Villages in Texas and the bowling alley and..................

Haven't heard those rumors.....:icon_bored:

[AriaGrandparents2013]

The most important rumor I am trying go to authenticate is........will there be a Dunkin Donuts in Paddock Square or not....?????

[graciegirl]

The most important rumor I am trying go to authenticate is........will there be a Dunkin Donuts in Paddock Square or not....?????


We are hoping so.

[AriaGrandparents2013]

We are hoping so.

What better way to spend a rainy evening in The villages then to head to Paddock Square to enjoy a cup of DD coffee".........oh maybe some day in the near future.....!!!

[cquick]

here is where the "new Villages" is being built. It also happens to be the same Island that Gary is involved in building a deep water port and if you call the number they answer "it's a great day in The Villages" you will also find that a model of home is called Bougainvillea and that they have set up their own health system and that they can help insure that you can close on your home in 30 days and so on and so on

the homes | Villages At Coverley (http://villagesatcoverley.net/residences/the-homes)

I went to the website and clicked on "contact us". The instructions to the community had no names relevant to this part of Florida. The Florida Turnpike wasn't mentioned either.

That doesn't sound like it is near to our Villages.

[cquick]

It seems to be in Barbados

[Villages Kahuna]

There's not much that can happen in any community without local government involvement and approvals. Those issues must be openly discussed with the opportunity for public hearings and involvement as the result of "open meeting" laws. And where there are open meetings, there will be reporters from the media.

There's not a lot of sense in chasing down rumors--although we do have a lot of time for activities like that, and golf. When something like has been rumored here is going to happen, we'll have plenty of forewarning.

For me, I'm going to use that extra time pursuing other activities.

[gomoho]

Read the article about Polo in today's paper and you will see the Morse's have a connection to the Williams' family in Barbados. So no surprise there. Cow Williams is the largest builder on the island of Barbados.

[AriaGrandparents2013]

What better to do with one's spare time on a rainy Night in The Villages then to pursue rumors....! Anyone have any to share?

[Shimpy]

I haven't seen as many rumors since I was in the Navy and non of them were accurate. The land they are working on just west of Brownwood is hugh and could hold a nice mall, but could also hold a lot of homes. It would be nice to have a Dunken Donuts in Brownwood but would also be nice to have a place that had a full breakfast menu such as 2 Jays or Athens.

[Bogie Shooter]

here is where the "new Villages" is being built. It also happens to be the same Island that Gary is involved in building a deep water port and if you call the number they answer "it's a great day in The Villages" you will also find that a model of home is called Bougainvillea and that they have set up their own health system and that they can help insure that you can close on your home in 30 days and so on and so on

the homes | Villages At Coverley (http://villagesatcoverley.net/residences/the-homes)

I said Texas not Barbados.

[skyguy79]

It seems to be in BarbadosI guess that rules out any golf cart paths connecting it to our Villages! :sigh:

[ricklowe]

I have an Export Business in Miami with many customers in the islands one in particular works part time for the government of Barbados he says that the construction project has been a failure to date there are not enough retired people and the prices are to high for the locals.

[graciegirl]

here is where the "new Villages" is being built. It also happens to be the same Island that Gary is involved in building a deep water port and if you call the number they answer "it's a great day in The Villages" you will also find that a model of home is called Bougainvillea and that they have set up their own health system and that they can help insure that you can close on your home in 30 days and so on and so on

the homes | Villages At Coverley (http://villagesatcoverley.net/residences/the-homes)


I doubt this venture has nothing to do with the Morses. Read it carefully.

But this one does;

http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/newsitem.asp?NewsID=7843

[njbchbum]

here's an earlier thread on the Morse Barbados investment:
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/gary-morses-new-venture-62175/

an article re the project:
The Barbados Advocate - Marina expected to attract millions (http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/newsitem.asp?NewsID=7843)

and an interesting article from Barbados Today re the IRS and tax exempt bond issuance:IRS stumps Port Ferdinand investor | Barbados Today (http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2013/06/06/irs-stumps-port-ferdinand-investor/)
kind of old news here - but interesting that the issue was picked up and written about in Barbados!

[travelguy]

there is no mall.
and as far as celebration....if disney is reluctant to expand the existing community called celebration due to the lack of affordability...and a weak economy....why in the world would they come out here to the boonies and build a community?

[MajorBill]

Source of "true" comments please.

[jukerocks]

My Momma always told me, "Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see". Best advice of my life.

[Lynn222]

Been hearing the following rumors on the street as I venture in and around The Villages........True ?.......or........False?

1. There will be a Dunkin Donuts in Paddock Square Brownwoods across from the cinemas.

2. There is under construction or will be soon starting construction of a very large high end Mall along Route 44 east of The Villages.

3. Disney is to purchase a large parcel of land near or adjacent to The Villages to construct another planned community similar to their existing Celebration community.

4.Costco will be constructing a store along Route 44 perhaps within the Mall complex mentioned in Item 2 above.

5. There is an area within The Villages where they will start constructing exclusive Premier Homes of very high quality/costs to attract Medical Doctors.

Was wondering if any other fellow Villagers had heard any of the aforementioned and whether in your opinion any are true?

What I know...
I bet there will be a DD.
A mall is under construction @ Powell/44.
The land purchased across from Hanks B'Que on 466a is going to be $500,000+ homes...don't know about the doc thing.

[AriaGrandparents2013]

Let's wait and see what is true and what is only rumored to be true........! They say......rumors are more exciting than the truth....!,,!

[2BNTV]

My Momma always told me, "Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see". Best advice of my life.

My father said the same thing. :smiley:

I like the saying. "After you finish talking, I watch what you do". That is the deciding factor.

[ROCKETMAN]

That land on 44 next to Brownwood was graded and ready for something but that was 6 months ago. Maybe closer to build-out a small mall but nothing big I don't think.

[graciegirl]

That land on 44 next to Brownwood was graded and ready for something but that was 6 months ago. Maybe closer to build-out a small mall but nothing big I don't think.

I agree.

[Bogie Shooter]

there is no mall.
and as far as celebration....if disney is reluctant to expand the existing community called celebration due to the lack of affordability...and a weak economy....why in the world would they come out here to the boonies and build a community?

This makes too much sense!:agree:

[Bogie Shooter]

What I know...
I bet there will be a DD.
A mall is under construction @ Powell/44.
The land purchased across from Hanks B'Que on 466a is going to be $500,000+ homes...don't know about the doc thing.

Where on 466A is Hanks B'Que?

[Bonny]

Can't imagine a mall going up on 44 when malls all over the US are struggling, closing stores and in some cases closing malls. I have a hard time thinking a mall is coming on 44. It's not even a major highway.

[mulligan]

According to Wildwood Building dep't office, NO plans have been submitted for a mall. The north end of the lot @ Powell and 44 is being developed as villas included in the recently expanded District #10. IMHO, the current demographic does not support any large stores being built. There just aren't enough people. The big stores look for areas with a population in the millions to draw from. 100,000 is chump change, and the wrong age group.

[Bogie Shooter]

Target is closing at the Leesburg Mall and the Mall itself is up for sale.

[REDCART]

What I know...
...The land purchased across from Hanks B'Que on 466a is going to be $500,000+ homes...don't know about the doc thing.

I believe Lynn is referring to Burke's BBQ.

[Bogie Shooter]

I believe Lynn is referring to Burke's BBQ.

Maybe Lynn knows??

[kittygilchrist]

There's not much that can happen in any community without local government involvement and approvals. Those issues must be openly discussed with the opportunity for public hearings and involvement as the result of "open meeting" laws. And where there are open meetings, there will be reporters from the media.

There's not a lot of sense in chasing down rumors--although we do have a lot of time for activities like that, and golf. When something like has been rumored here is going to happen, we'll have plenty of forewarning.

For me, I'm going to use that extra time pursuing other activities.

haha. that's why you didn't waste time reading this and posting a reply! me neither. I'm too busy having fun. ohoho!

and by the way, staff of the developer are among the last to know what is really happening...I got that not as a rumor.

[REDCART]

Maybe Lynn knows??

Lynn is MIA, that's why I had to answer for her. Maybe Lynn knows Hank Burke who probably owns Burke's BBQ, hence Hank's B Que. Just another rumor, but as good as any rumors lately.

[SusanOfWoodbury]

I Heard that Macy's would like to come to the Villages, but, the only way they would open a store if there was a mall connected to it... Mall sounds great, one time shopping..

[Rango]

Costco---NOT

[notlongnow]

You left out the new Villages in Texas and the bowling alley and..................
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Wish this was true. My life long Texas wife can't see herself moving to Florida but really loves The Villages. This would be the perfect solution for for me!!
Who knows?

[kittygilchrist]

any store I can lay my greedy beady eyes on without driving 12 miles will be a site for sore I'z.

[Bonnevie]

any store I can lay my greedy beady eyes on without driving 12 miles will be a site for sore I'z.

exactly how I feel!

[graciegirl]

I want to start a rumor/ and or jump to a conclusion.

Sometimes on our way home after dark we pass the entry to the Morse home on 466. Sometimes the entry way and the significant road leading way back to the home are lit. Last night that was so and the house was ablaze with lights. I am thinking that the family is returning for Thanksgiving and I am thinking that maybe Megan Boone is home to see Grandpa Gary and all the family gathered last night to welcome her and they will be watching her show tonight together.

I saw where it had number one ratings.

I am such a Morse fan.

You knew that didn't you?

I don't work for him and never met him and MAY be disappointed if I did meet him.

But I doubt it.

[gmracket]

I have lived in The Villages for over 9 years now and to be honest don't believe anything until it actually happens. There are so many people that think they know but they don't and once a rumor spreads it gets to be a bigger story so until the Mall is there, Costco, Dunkin Donuts just sit back and see if it happens...don't look like you have egg on your face!

[jtdraig]

Hey, Tucson..where did you live there? We spent eight years at the top of Craycroft Road near Craycroft and Sunrise.......love it there.

[AriaGrandparents2013]

There has to be more rumors swirling around The a Villages to share with us.....??

I think hearing the scuttlebutt out on the street is fun to see what ultimately proves true.

So pass along your most juiciest of rumors......!!

[Peachie]

There has to be more rumors swirling around The a Villages to share with us.....??

I think hearing the scuttlebutt out on the street is fun to see what ultimately proves true.

So pass along your most juiciest of rumors......!!

...or one could get a life and live in the moment! What a perfect waste of time IMHO, why would anyone want to start or perpetuate a rumor? :ohdear:

[AriaGrandparents2013]

...or one could get a life and live in the moment! What a perfect waste of time IMHO, why would anyone want to start or perpetuate a rumor? :ohdear:

I guess you haven't heard any rumors to share.

[Peachie]

I guess you haven't heard any rumors to share.

I've heard a rumor there were people trying to generate rumors because it was a slow day on the forum... :icon_wink:

[gomoho]

...or one could get a life and live in the moment! What a perfect waste of time IMHO, why would anyone want to start or perpetuate a rumor? :ohdear:

Because sometimes it's fun to dream??? Taste or preference we cannot measure, one man's junk is another man's treasure.

[Peachie]

Because sometimes it's fun to dream??? Taste or preference we cannot measure, one man's junk is another man's treasure.

I get dreams, gomoho. There are, in fact, several nice threads on here asking everyone what stores they would like or what they would like to see developed south of 466A and so forth. :agree:

Rumors, however, equate to gossip for me and I never got into that sort of "fun". Hey, gossip on... I'll look the other way. :)

[Gerald]

I don't believe any of them. Just silly stuff.

[Steve & Deanna]

Dunkin' Donuts, we already have one on 466 but another would be nice near Sumter Landing and Costco, that would be great and we would agree with Gracie Girl, NO MALLS. The stores in and around TV are just fine.

[LndLocked]

I am sure that ALL of the rumors are started by those carpetbaggers from Stonecrest, ridding on "our" trails, just flinging them about like the cretins they are!

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[graciegirl]

I am sure that ALL of the rumors are started by those carpetbaggers from Stonecrest, ridding on "our" trails, just flinging them about like the cretins they are!

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Happy Thanksgiving Lndlocked.

[LndLocked]

Happy Thanksgiving Lndlocked.

I gave thanks via the Red Cross to Philippine typhoon and US tornado victims.

[e-flyer]

I heard a rumor that another house was broken into in Sanibel today. EKKKK!

[AriaGrandparents2013]

Here's one for all to consider. While at Town Squares enjoying the evening entertainment had this conversation where it was pointed out that the TOP ENTERTAINMENT ACTS are:

No. 1 - Rocky and the Rollers
No. 2 - Scooter the DJ

What do you think?

[fgrider]

Developers pursue Wildwood land - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-06-18/news/LWILDWOOD18_1_wildwood-sumter-county-retirees)

[JB in TV]

You realize this article was dated June, 2006....

[Ceafolks]

[QUOTE=fgrider;784254]Developers pursue Wildwood land - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-06-18/news/LWILDWOOD18_1_wildwood-sumter-county-retirees)[/QUOT

That article is from 2006...very old news.

[Bogie Shooter]

[QUOTE=fgrider;784254]Developers pursue Wildwood land - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-06-18/news/LWILDWOOD18_1_wildwood-sumter-county-retirees)[/QUOT

That article is from 2006...very old news.

And disputed many times here on TOTV.

[fgrider]

Developers pursue Wildwood land - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-06-18/news/LWILDWOOD18_1_wildwood-sumter-county-retirees)

[graciegirl]

Developers pursue Wildwood land - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-06-18/news/LWILDWOOD18_1_wildwood-sumter-county-retirees)

According to this link which you have posted twice, Crosland Inc appears to be the company who was handling this and it seems to have shifted it's focus, At least that I what I seem to get from this article.

About Crosland | Crosland (http://www.crosland.com/about-us/)

[The Buckeyes]

Just want a golf cart accessible gas station on 44.
:a040:

[AriaGrandparents2013]

Just want a golf cart accessible gas station on 44.
:a040:

I second that............or.........at the new Sweetbay Plaza on 466A......? Has anyone heard whether there are plans to add gas station in these areas??????

[graciegirl]

Steinmart and Homegoods.

WELL...maybe La Rosa's pizza. But that won't happen.

[Bogie Shooter]

I second that............or.........at the new Sweetbay Plaza on 466A......? Has anyone heard whether there are plans to add gas station in these areas??????

Only diesel.....