First hand account of burglary in Sanibel

[Lynnelf]

I am the homeowner whose home was burglarized yesterday in Sanibel. We were out and about The Villages yesterday and when we arrived home about 2 o'clock, we discovered our home had been broken into. They kicked the front door in WITH A SECURITY BAR in place. The security bar was worthless. The molding on the inside ripped away and they walked right in. The door was not even damaged. They targeted a safe that we had in the house. Now here's the thing. There has been only one worker in the house since we got that safe. The police have that information. However, we realized that we did something very stupid. We put that box out on the street for garbage pick-up and had some other garbage inside the box. The garbage pick-up has been rather late for the last several weeks so it sat in our driveway all morning. It was like a big advertisement that we had a safe and therefore, must have valuables in the house! It seems obvious now, but at the time we thought nothing of it! So please, be careful of what you are throwing out! They definitely targeted the safe and easily pried it open. It is clear to us by looking at the things they passed up, that they were looking for cash and gold. (small items only.) Unfortunately for me, I had taken off my wedding band and diamond the night before and left it right out on my nightstand. Needless to say, they were gone. They did not appear to have been in the house long. They went through the master bedroom nightstands and dresser top drawers. It does not appear that they were anywhere else in the home. When they left, it appears they walked out the back door right to the country club parking lot where they were probably parked.
So I read on the other threads regarding this burglary that everyone on the street watches out for each other. We do that on this street too but it didn't help. I read that it is almost impossible to kick in the door with a security bar in place. Not true. There are no neighbors nearby with kids living with them that I know of but there sure are lots of contractors on this street everyday. I believe it was one of them. We didn't run out and get a security system when this same thing happened to someone else in our neighborhood, but we will be getting one now. That and a safety deposit box at the bank.

[graciegirl]

I am the homeowner whose home was burglarized yesterday in Sanibel. We were out and about The Villages yesterday and when we arrived home about 2 o'clock, we discovered our home had been broken into. They kicked the front door in WITH A SECURITY BAR in place. The security bar was worthless. The molding on the inside ripped away and they walked right in. The door was not even damaged. They targeted a safe that we had in the house. Now here's the thing. There has been only one worker in the house since we got that safe. The police have that information. However, we realized that we did something very stupid. We put that box out on the street for garbage pick-up and had some other garbage inside the box. The garbage pick-up has been rather late for the last several weeks so it sat in our driveway all morning. It was like a big advertisement that we had a safe and therefore, must have valuables in the house! It seems obvious now, but at the time we thought nothing of it! So please, be careful of what you are throwing out! They definitely targeted the safe and easily pried it open. It is clear to us by looking at the things they passed up, that they were looking for cash and gold. (small items only.) Unfortunately for me, I had taken off my wedding band and diamond the night before and left it right out on my nightstand. Needless to say, they were gone. They did not appear to have been in the house long. They went through the master bedroom nightstands and dresser top drawers. It does not appear that they were anywhere else in the home. When they left, it appears they walked out the back door right to the country club parking lot where they were probably parked.
So I read on the other threads regarding this burglary that everyone on the street watches out for each other. We do that on this street too but it didn't help. I read that it is almost impossible to kick in the door with a security bar in place. Not true. There are no neighbors nearby with kids living with them that I know of but there sure are lots of contractors on this street everyday. I believe it was one of them. We didn't run out and get a security system when this same thing happened to someone else in our neighborhood, but we will be getting one now. That and a safety deposit box at the bank.

Lynne. I am SO sorry this happened and THANK YOU for telling us.

I hope they catch the lowlife XXXXXXX and that your precious items are returned to you.

Do you think that the other break in was done in the same way?

It is horrible and shocking to know that someone can break down our doors in the middle of the day.

Again. I am so sorry this happened to you.

[JB in TV]

So sorry to hear what happened, but thank you so much for sharing your experience and thoughts. Perhaps it will help others. It is a good idea to watch what you put out for trash, I would not have given it a second thought. Just a question, was the safe installed by someone other than yourselves?

[Lynnelf]

We bought and installed the safe about two weeks ago. Told no one about it. There was one worker in our house since then, but I was keeping my eye on him. Then it dawned on me that we had thrown the box away in the trash. Seems so dumb now, but like I said, we didn't even think about it at the time. Oh well, another lesson learned.

[Wing-nut2]

If you send me a PM, I will send you phone number of the security company we use. It's easy, It's not expensive, and it's monitored for Burglar, Fire and Police. There's nothing stuck on windows etc. It's also portable. You can take it with you if you move.

Even if you don't buy the system (about $99.00), it's worth an hour of your time to hear and see how it works.

[Cedwards38]

I'm a fellow Sanibel resident (French Oak Avenue) and we use Frontpoint Security. We have been very happy with their system and especially with the customer service. You might check them out.

Total Security, Big Savings | FrontPoint Security (http://paths.frontpointsecurity.com/frontpoint-security?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=frontpoint%20security&utm_campaign=GAW_SE_NW_USA_brnd&mm_campaign=60d8b5483cafa7f82f1b6ce46d6f65a1&keyword=frontpoint_security_exm&c1=GAW_SE_NW&source=USA_brnd&cr2=search__-__nw__-__branded--frontpoint_branded__-__exm&kw=frontpoint_security_exm&cr5=29280336155&cr7=c&gclid=CICX_Z6X9roCFYgWMgod2U8ALg)

Also, would it be worth our time for someone from the Sanibel Heights Neighborhood Association to contact Frontpoint and other security companies about a group discount for anyone in the Association who might want to have the service? There is usually a discount available when groups purchase in volume. Just a thought. It would be easy to try to arrange a discount and then survey the Association members via email to see how many might be interested. We could turn Sanibel into the most protected neighborhood in The Villages!

[Taltarzac725]

Very sorry to hear about this burglary. It is nice to have nosy neighbors at times like this. Nosy strangers about what goes out in your trash, not so much.

This article might be of interest to others as well. I have seen similar recommendations on various news shows. http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2008-08-02/news/sfl-landscaping-lights-prevent-home-burglaries_1_home-burglaries-crime-prevention-bushes

[vlm790]

Has anyone used the people on canal street in the villages for a built in safe?

[patfla06]

I am so sorry to hear about your house being burglarized and most especially
that your wedding rings were taken.

Thank you so, so much for posting the facts.
I would have never thought about the box either.

We have every intention of putting an alarm in AND putting
Jewelry in a safe deposit in the bank.

I hope, somehow, they catch whoever did it and your rings are returned.

[graciegirl]

I hope that it will be in tomorrow.

[Gabbi1393]

I am so sorry to hear about your house being broken into. My husband has always had a thing about the trash. Says you are just advertising that you bought a new flat screen tv etc. you have to be careful, especially after the holiday when there are a lot of new boxes to throw out.

[kathyzapp]

Lynnelf,

I'm so sorry this happened to you.

Does your security bar go across your door or is it wedged under the door knob?

[The Buckeyes]

We rented a safety deposit box the day we closed on our home. Was surprised how cheap it was compared to up north.

[sandybill2]

So sorry Lynn that this happened. It is such an invasion to know that someone has been in your home, going through your personal things--- Hope you will recover your wedding rings-- Also hope that the authorities notify area Pawn Shops and jewelry stores that buy gold, etc. Thank you for warning all of us about putting out boxes on trash day---never would have thought of that-- but you are telling everyone what you have in your home.

[JourneyOfLife]

I would have an alarm system installed and use a monitoring service.

DIY Security cameras are fairly cheap now days. Many can be installed by the home owner if they are handy with that sort of thing. If not, a technician or electrician could set it up.

There are complete packages of a few cameras and DVR at a fairly low price. Some packages are less than $200. Motion detection recording, night vision, email snapshots, etc.

[Lynnelf]

The security bar was the type that wedges underneath the doorknob. A safe-deposit box at the bank is definitely the way to go. I am heading to the bank today as we speak.

[Lynnelf]

Thanks all for the recommendations on security systems. We are looking into those too.

[Happinow]

It must be a very uneasy feeling to have your home broken into. It seems that if these thieves want to get in...they will get in. I suggested on my other post that it may be a good idea for people to have security systems and some kinda made fun of me. Now, we hear first hand that you are getting one. I guess my suggestion wasn't that far off after all. I truly hope they catch the thief but the chances are slim that you will ever get your rings back.....they have probably already sold them. Perhaps you and hubby can have a special day and go
Pick out something new that you can cherish just like your other rings. Maybe renew your vows with the new rings? Thanks Giving may have a whole new meaning this year. My heart goes out to you.

[janmcn]

Does anyone know if the burglar in the first break-in in Sanibel was ever caught? Sorry I don't remember the street name where that occured.

[graciegirl]

Does anyone know if the burglar in the first break-in in Sanibel was ever caught? Sorry I don't remember the street name where that occured.


Not to my knowledge. I never read or heard that they were.

We are very good on this forum in passing that kind of information around.

I am just thinking that the fact she had a safe is pivotal. Someone knew.

I am hoping that the police are exploring anything in common with the other break in since it was very close by.

Would it be a contractor in common, or something in common?

I know I watch too many detective shows, but they caught the contractor who was stealing appliances from new builds. They caught the person who stole jewelry from a couple homes in close proximity north of 466. He was someone's son who lived nearby. I think we have some savvy law enforcement here.

One thing both victims had in common Is that they were fairly new and they both might have bought or looked into something similar perhaps to add or buy.

I don't have much "good" jewelry. Usually only wear my wedding rings. Some people have more and wear it frequently. Or it is more common knowledge that they enjoy fine jewelry.

I hope they find these losers and soon.

[Lynnelf]

I do not believe they were ever caught. And in answer to a previous question, yes the two crimes seem very similar. Burglars kicked in the door, frame busted and they had access to the house. They were in and out of the house in a very short time frame. And as Happinow stated, if these thieves want to get in, they will get in. We were told the same thing by more than one deputy from the Sheriff's dept. And the detective who investigated yesterday said the sliders can be very simple to get into as well. Lots of sleepless nights ahead of me now.

[Cedwards38]

Without question, those engaging in breaking and entering do not want to draw attention upon themselves while they are in the act. An ear splitting alarm going off, and the police being automatically dispatched to the location are not things that will make their work easier. Therefore they will avoid those things. In case you hadn't guessed, I'm an advocate of security systems. Do I have one to catch the bad guy? No. I have one so that the bad guy goes somewhere else.

[graciegirl]

We have friends who live in a truly gated community on the gulf coast and they had a rash of break ins. They found the common denominator was one of the gardener/grass cutter/ landscape guys was noting when homeowners left their homes together and would call someone who they let in the gates and who broke in.

We all need to be on this case and watching unusual stuff.

We literally have thousands of good and ethical people taking care of our yards here but it just takes ONE bad one.

[Indydealmaker]

If you send me a PM, I will send you phone number of the security company we use. It's easy, It's not expensive, and it's monitored for Burglar, Fire and Police. There's nothing stuck on windows etc. It's also portable. You can take it with you if you move.

Even if you don't buy the system (about $99.00), it's worth an hour of your time to hear and see how it works.

Actually, having the window and door stickers is a Huge deterrent. Experienced burglars will avoid the hassle.

[Peachie]

Actually, having the window and door stickers is a Huge deterrent. Experienced burglars will avoid the hassle.



I don't know, Indy... you may be right. However, recalling over the years, the different security system companies we employed advised us if you truly have a security system, a window or door sticker or sign shouldn't be used. Almost all security systems can be gotten around by savvy thieves and not so savvy thieves. Surprising the thief with a system in place is far better because they have tripped it and they take off running. :eek:

We know quite a few people with bogus security signs and thieves are aware also that many signs are not legit. Was anyone else counseled not to sign or forewarn thieves of their system?

[OurHappyHome]

Thank you for sharing your tragedy. We are sorry to hear that happened. It is so true that we have to always be careful even in paradise.

I do have a question. Did they crack the safe, or carry it out if it wasn't bolted down. I would think that this would take some time.

[Indydealmaker]

I don't know, Indy... you may be right. However, recalling over the years, the different security system companies we employed advised us if you truly have a security system, a window or door sticker or sign shouldn't be used. Almost all security systems can be gotten around by savvy thieves and not so savvy thieves. Surprising the thief with a system in place is far better because they have tripped it and they take off running. :eek:

We know quite a few people with bogus security signs and thieves are aware also that many signs are not legit. Was anyone else counseled not to sign or forewarn thieves of their system?

We were advised by ADT to use the stickers as the pros want to hit and run quick. The newer alarm systems do not use wire or landline phones and are harder to bypass. That being said, you can make a case for the yard signs and window stickers only being effective advertising for the security company.

We employ wireless cameras and a 44 magnum.

[Peachie]

We were advised by ADT to use the stickers as the pros want to hit and run quick. The newer alarm systems do not use wire or landline phones and are harder to bypass. That being said, you can make a case for the yard signs and window stickers only being effective advertising for the security company.

We employ wireless cameras and a 44 magnum.

The cameras and magnum sound like a very effective security program but I'm afraid to have a loaded gun in the house. I have such vivid dreams and I'm concerned I may use a gun without knowledge I'm doing so. Sigh... it may be time to put THAT fear away and obtain training and a weapon.

On the other hand, upon moving to FL, we have divested ourselves of lots of the pricey, material things in life and we use very little cash. Maybe they would run off with my books and the sofa? Hmmm, I could get over that. Much to think about!

[JourneyOfLife]

I think signs and stickers are a good idea. But I consider them as an addition to an alarm system, not as an alternative.

I also think it is a good idea to have motion activated flood/spot lighting around the outside of the home.

Anything that makes the home appear to increase the risk of the thief being detected and at risk of being caught.

Much of the technology is pretty cheap.

[BettyCrocked]

Lynn, you should get out the yellow pages and hit every pawn shop within a 15 mile radius over the next 5 days. You will probably find most of your stuff. You can then contact the police and they can get to the bottom of who pawned it.

[Lynnelf]

To answer the question regarding the safe, they pried it open, probably with a crowbar. Yes, it was that easy. Yes, First Alert, the company that made the safe, will be hearing from me.

[Karron]

So sorry that this has happened to you...
I have been in Sable Chase almost 1 year and am surprised to see so many unmarked trucks roaming around the neighborhood... some have lawn equipment in the back of them, but there is one thing that is interesting....
There is no sign or lettering on the sides of the trucks!...
hummmm.
I'm also disappointed with The Village sales person telling me, "you really don't need a security system here!!!
Karron
Again... Thank You for sharing your experience with us!

[Tinkerbelle]

Will the person that said they had a system put in for 99.00 Please give the name of the company and phone # Thanks

[OurHappyHome]

To answer the question regarding the safe, they pried it open, probably with a crowbar. Yes, it was that easy. Yes, First Alert, the company that made the safe, will be hearing from me.

I guess this was not their first party. I like the check the pawn shop idea.

[OurHappyHome]

Will the person that said they had a system put in for 99.00 Please give the name of the company and phone # Thanks

Please post it here for us all. After reading this I think I'm getting it too.

[kittygilchrist]

I just wanted to get posts from all the people who get stuff stolen so I can go solve the crime. I'm half serious. Try me. give us a picture and description...

[graciegirl]

I just wanted to get posts from all the people who get stuff stolen so I can go solve the crime. I'm half serious. Try me. give us a picture and description...


If anyone could it would be you Kitty.

Don't forget your ...you know.

AND BE CAREFUL.

[OurHappyHome]

Wow this could be the makings of a new crime novel.

[Bogie Shooter]

Lynn, you should get out the yellow pages and hit every pawn shop within a 15 mile radius over the next 5 days. You will probably find most of your stuff. You can then contact the police and they can get to the bottom of who pawned it.

The last crook that stole golf clubs was actually caught trying to pawn the clubs. If I recall in was in Brookville, about an hour south of here. I think sheriff has the pawn shops covered.

[Cedwards38]

We were advised by ADT to use the stickers as the pros want to hit and run quick. The newer alarm systems do not use wire or landline phones and are harder to bypass. That being said, you can make a case for the yard signs and window stickers only being effective advertising for the security company.

We employ wireless cameras and a 44 magnum.

Indy is right in that most all of the modern security systems are wireless, and thus almost impossible for a burglar to bypass or disable. Frontpoint also has "crash protection" meaning if someone breaks in and immediately takes a bat to the control panel, it automatically sets off and dispatches law enforcement.

[Wing-nut2]

Tinkerbelle . . . .I sent you a PM with the name of the security company.

[jmac1031]

Maybe it is time to enable the gated entry on the west end of Pineallas so at least it looks like secure place!

[graciegirl]

I have followed Lynnelf's posting from her looking forward to living here and now she is at this moment, fearful.

That makes me so angry. Someone took her wedding rings and pried open her safe.

I wish and hope and just.......want the police to catch this person or these persons.

Those of you who live closeby there, there has to be a link. Be VERY careful and get security systems.

I hope the police will do some extra protecting. How long between the other break in and this one?

I am so sorry Lynnelf, that some low life creep who is too lazy to work and get things for himself stole from you.

[TrudyM]

The last crook that stole golf clubs was actually caught trying to pawn the clubs. If I recall in was in Brookville, about an hour south of here. I think sheriff has the pawn shops covered.

When a team of thieves were stealing in our area a neighbor found her stuff being advertised on craigs list and more for sale at a swap meet. The neighbors each took photos and split up all the pawn shops etc so they could all be covered quick and offered a reward, She got about half her stuff back. I hope you get your wedding rings back at least.

[jebartle]

Please know that your TOTV friends regret that your lives have been compromised and hopefully it will all be recovered..

On a side note: When I took our trash to the end of the driveway, the
burglar left the trash but took the container...Is there a hidden message
here for me???????

[DEWRDW]

Tinkerbelle . . . .I sent you a PM with the name of the security company.

Please pm the name of the security company also - thanks.

[senior citizen]

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[senior citizen]

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[graciegirl]

What a feeling of personal violation you must be experiencing.

My husband just shared his thoughts with me......after hearing about your home invasion and robbery........please see below....and good luck in apprehending the culprits.



""Too bad; yes putting the "empty box from the safe" out is an invitation to the thieves.""

""An alarm system would be helpful, but equally important would be three wireless motion-detectors-cameras. One at the front door, one at the rear door and one inside. Once motion is detected, it records who the camera sees as well as emailing the picture to your smart phone. These systems are available from $75 to $300, I have been researching these systems for the past few weeks, ....just in case we require one in The Villages.""



I completely agree with your husband. Camera's are a very good choice.

[Bogie Shooter]

Please know that your TOTV friends regret that your lives have been compromised and hopefully it will all be recovered..

On a side note: When I took our trash to the end of the driveway, the
burglar left the trash but took the container...Is there a hidden message
here for me???????

Was the container a garbage can?

[Bogie Shooter]

Burglary was reported in today's, Nov 22 Daily Sun, local section.

[KathieI]

I am so horrified by this thread, that I can't come up with appropriate words. This saddens me beyond belief. I never thought that I would have to consider an alarm system for my house here in TV, but I'm rethinking it now.

Back in the 70's, our condo was robbed and I didn't even know it for a few days they were so neat. But my dog was poisoned and passed away and when I realized I was robbed, I connected it to the dog's passing. It was at that time that I got rid of all expensive items. I wear no jewelry, have no expensive electronics, just a slim line TV (whatever that's called). I want nothing to give these bas**rds anything to tempt them. But the best security are my darling schnauzers. No one can come near this house, day or night, without them alerting all of us. Next time someone complains, I will read them the riot act.

I am so sorry for you, Lynn, and anyone else that has been violated in this manner. Please take care and watch out for each other.

Kitty, I hope you find these people... I'm relying on you!!!

[Wing-nut2]

I use Suncoast Security

352-624-3008

Great Company. The system has remotes that look like a key fob to turn it on and off. No putting in a code and running to the door. System is portable, you can take it with you from one house to another.

It's worth a call and the time to look at the system.

Tell them Jim on Ainsworth told you to call.

[JC and John]

It must be a very uneasy feeling to have your home broken into. It seems that if these thieves want to get in...they will get in. I suggested on my other post that it may be a good idea for people to have security systems and some kinda made fun of me. Now, we hear first hand that you are getting one. I guess my suggestion wasn't that far off after all. I truly hope they catch the thief but the chances are slim that you will ever get your rings back.....they have probably already sold them. Perhaps you and hubby can have a special day and go
Pick out something new that you can cherish just like your other rings. Maybe renew your vows with the new rings? Thanks Giving may have a whole new meaning this year. My heart goes out to you.

Happinow - thank you for posting such a beautiful idea on replacing Lynn's rings and having a renewal of vows.

Lynnelf - I am so sorry this break in happened to you and hubby and I pray they catch the guys and are able to recover your rings. If not, consider Happinow's ideas on replacement. You can replace material things. Your love and memories associated with your stolen rings will always be with you, something no thief can steal from you.

To the poster who suggested that Sanibel Heights Association look into ways of getting a possible discount for homeowners who want to invest in a security system, not a bad idea. We will definitely look into a system regardless. In the meantime, I am calling the Sumter Sheriff's office and inquire about having someone come out and give me a safety (not sure what they call it) check that they offered at one of our club meetings.

Be safe out there and watch what you put out for trash!

[KEVIN & JOSIE]

Purchasing security systems, motion detection lighting, cameras, are all great ideas on how to comfort you as a homeowner. Ultimately, if a criminal decides to rob you, there is really little you can do. When I lived in Baltimore, the criminals knew exactly how much time it would take for the police to respond to an alarm condition, thus they would break in, grab and run before the officers arrived. Cameras are comforting, but theives know how to cover up their identifing features, thus the camera is of no use. I know it may not sound like the answer, but the only thing that limits you as a target is to limit expensive belongings that thieves can steal and pawn for quick cash. Most importantly, you and your family are safe and were not home during the intrusion. Please keep safe!

[The Buckeyes]

Has anyone used the people on canal street in the villages for a built in safe?

Which place is that?

[LeeM]

The cameras and magnum sound like a very effective security program but I'm afraid to have a loaded gun in the house. I have such vivid dreams and I'm concerned I may use a gun without knowledge I'm doing so. Sigh... it may be time to put THAT fear away and obtain training and a weapon.

On the other hand, upon moving to FL, we have divested ourselves of lots of the pricey, material things in life and we use very little cash. Maybe they would run off with my books and the sofa? Hmmm, I could get over that. Much to think about!

I am also in the process of divesting myself of pricey, material things before I move (don't know when but we are moving there!)

But sad to read that there is another reason to do so besides downsizing.

Sure hope they catch those creeps!

[llaran]

think about how the alarm system works - you are the alarm - someone breaks in - alarm goes off - alarm co calls your home to see if someone is home - no answer - co calls your alt # - then police - meantime - burgler is gone with loot --

Lt Neimah Wolfe says he does not use alarm when hes not home but when he is home as an alert.

[Shimpy]

I too have a safe in my house but has nothing of value in it. It's there to occupy them so they can't find anything else. I'll leave a few cheap things on the dresser such as a Timex watch to give them the idea that they were successful.
The first place burglers will go is the bedroom and that's the last place you should hide valuables.

[Rango]

To answer the question regarding the safe, they pried it open, probably with a crowbar. Yes, it was that easy. Yes, First Alert, the company that made the safe, will be hearing from me.

Most safes sold at Home Depot etc, are for fire protection. They are not security safes. I worked for a police dept and we had a lot of high tech heavy duty safes broken into.

Get a strong safe and fill it with bricks. (the bad guys will waste they're time with the safe)

Put your valuables in a bank safety deposit box.

[SusanOfWoodbury]

Sorry to read about your break in. Thanks for providing the information about putting the box out front for trash.. Really sad, that we need to worry about this kind of behavior from workers if that was the case. Security system sounds like the best idea.
Actually I think new homes should have a security system installed..
God Bless

[LeeM]

Is there a crime watch group in effect in the area?

I am in charge of the crime watch for my street (in MD not in the Villages) and was told by the police to tell residents to put crime watch stickers in visible spots. We also purchased a crime watch sign for the street. And I try to update the info about each resident (car, family members etc.) so neighbors can be on the look out for possible problems.

[upstate]

We were victims of a burglary while at home over thirty years ago. The sound of glass breaking and hearing voices as they attempt to enter your residence is something you don't soon forget. To the OP, I sincerely hope that the items taken are recovered and you can find peace. Kicking in a door is a brazen act, especially during daylight hours, you never know how a burglar may react when discovered.

[jebartle]

Was the container a garbage can?

a garden container....I'm afraid the next burglar is going to feel sorry for us and leave us the loot!

[justjim]

The worst reaction is to be paranoid about an occasional burglary in TV. Let's face facts----it happens and it doesn't matter what community you happen to reside. The operative word here is occasionally. There are honest poor as well as honest middle-class and rich. Poor people needing items that we throw away has little to do with being a thief who would break into your home and steal your valuables. Just because you are poor doesn't make you a burglar IMHO.

[lovsthosebigdogs]

I am so sorry for that violation of someone breaking in and going through your things and ultimately stealing from you. I hope you can get your things back and learn to feel secure again in your home. I, too, think a security system is a good idea, if only to slow down a thief or to give him second thoughts. I am going to install one in my home.
Kathie, it breaks my heart to hear you lost a dog to a burglar. My fear is also that one would hurt or let one of my dogs out to get loose. Would one of mine hurt a burglar? Who knows, but I'd hate to rely on that as a security system. I'd rather keep them safe and never have to find out the hard way when it's too late and someone is already IN my house.

[CassieInVa]

Lynn,

I'm not in the Villages yet, but coming for my second LSV next month. I have several recommendations.

Go to all of the local pawn shops. Do NOT ask the staff there if they have your jewelry or tell them about your robbery. They do not care. All pawn shops buy stolen goods and hope they won't be caught. They also have to do a daily or weekly report to law enforcement about what they took in - but they don't really put a good description and they will try to be as vague as possible. If you find your jewelry there, they have to return it and they are out the money they paid and they know that. They may act concerned, but it is NOT in their best interest to help you. (I worked for the state police for years and this is a fact.)

I know this because I was robbed of thousands of dollars worth of jewelry at one time. It turned out to be our cleaning lady of eight years! The police brought me some pics of some stolen jewelry from a pawn shop - one piece was mine. They said that was the only piece - out of at least 30 or more 14/18kt gold. (It was all over the news here on East Coast) They wouldn't tell us which pawn shop but we overheard them talking and my husband and I went straight there after the police left. We divided up, acting like we were just shopping for jewelry and my husband found his gold ring - very unique and one of a kind. He signaled to me, we called the detective (never giving any warning to the pawn shop staff).

When the detective got there, we described each piece of jewelry - I figured if they had one or two pieces, they must have my solid gold vintage charm bracelet with charms - worth about $3,000 and my other good bracelet, etc. The detective was ready to give up and I said, can I see a list of everything else that was taken in around that time and by who.... turned out most of it was in her boyfriend's name. They tried to just brush me off but I said, you need to check the back (because they are supposed to not put it out for sale after they take it in for at least a week or two for this very reason). The detective then said maybe she should look in the back and suddenly out they came with about fifteen of our missing pieces. They were very mad and not happy as it was a big loss for them. They Had to have known that it was stolen goods, people don't just bring in $3,000 bracelets and thousands of dollars of beautiful and custom gold jewelry all at once.

And guess what - It was ME that contacted all of other people she cleaned for over the years (once she failed the lie detector test) - many of whom had stopped using her because they suspected her of stealing and it was because of me that most got their jewelry back, including sentimental tiffany pieces, etc. The police were not that helpful - probably too much other crime in area - we solved the crime for about ten other victims due to my pursuing my jewelry and getting at the truth.

Also, I recommend a security system and I will have one when I buy there. Have to have that piece of mind. Also will have cameras that I can view remotely if I need to check on the house when away.

I'm sorry this happened to you and it is an awful feeling. But do what I said about the pawn shops... just look through the cases and if you find something - DON'T tell them - they will just hide any other pieces that came in with it before police arrive. Let police come first!

[Mintjulep]

Sorry to hear about the burglary.
It happened to us 2 months after we moved into our house in TV about 4 years ago. Popped the lock on our bedroom slider in our gardenia. They got tons of jewelry. No one was ever caught and nothing was ever recovered. There was a rash of break-ins during that time. Sounds very similar...
It has made us very cautions still today.
And Kathie, remember we had 3 yappy schnauzers in the house when it happened! We were just thankful they weren't harmed.

[mainlander]

If they simply kicked in the front door,, it sounds like they are experienced at this type of quick entry. (experienced). If they pried open the safe they must have brought the proper tool. (equipped). Sounds to me like they knew what to do , what to expect and were quick (experienced). The garbage was a tip-off likely,, indicating a new arrival with a safe as well. Every time I have been in the Villages, as a jogger, I have often seen old trucks simply crawling around , no equipment in the back and simply cruising around... may be the type,, dunno. Perhaps the local PD should stop these guys and ask a few questions. Sorry for your loss but get pro-active and please do not accept being a victim.

[senior citizen]

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[graciegirl]

I'm very glad you mentioned the old trucks cruising around, etc.
This is what I meant awhile back about the types we saw (non residents) just all over TV.....and that comment was met with disdain; thinking I had alluded to all blue collar workers. NOT. But we did see a lot of seedy looking type individuals / workers / whatever. This thread shows that robberies are indeed POSSIBLE.

Is it also happening in the "older neighborhoods" north of 466?
Or, mainly in the newer, less populated villages....more as a crime of opportunity?
Such as when all the appliances were being taken out of the new homes before residents moved in.

This is VERY rare in a town with over a hundred thousand residents. It is shocking and worrying that these two similar break ins occurred right around the corner from each other. In broad daylight. This most recent home backs up to Bonifay Parking lot. SOMEONE had to know that neither of these people weren't home.

The others that occurred last year were north of 466, again close in proximity and the homes were entered through the sliding glass doors and jewelry and money was stolen and they pawned the jewelry nearby. That person was caught. He was the son of a resident who lived in the vicinity.

Then there were new appliances being stolen from new homes before residents moved in. They too were caught. It was a sub contractor working for one of the building crews who was tipping off his low life buddies. Camera's got their picture and they all are behind bars now.

I am just hoping and waiting for the law enforcement folks to catch these brazen creeps.

[senior citizen]

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[2BNTV]

Lynelf:

1. I am so sorry this burgarly happened to you.
2. Lots of good advice on what to do.
3. I'm also sorry you feel a sense of violation that all people feel when their home is invaded.
4. Nothing will stop professional thieves, but stickers might scare away kids and non professionals, who don't want to be bothered.

I personally don't have anything of great value to steal, but one never knows, do they? I cringe at the thought of someone entering my home for evil purposes. On the other hand, I personally, am not going to over-react to buying an alarm system, Professional thieves study, all alarm systems, to disable them, and take what they want. Sadly, they will get in, if they want to. :(

I personally, would rent a afety deposit box in a bank, to keep whatever valuables I may have, (none), but found it convenient to store paperwork like wills, medial rights to other parties and the deed to my home and all the contracts I signed.

I know several people who have had their homes broken into and the accompanied sense of violation, that comes with it. I wish that in time, you will settle down and be able to be happy in your home again.

[Bogie Shooter]

There is no crime wave........................

[2BNTV]

There is no crime wave........................

:agree: But one shaken home owner, and rightfully so. IMHO

I hope the police catch this person, and put him behind bars.

[Down Sized]

[QUOTE=2BNTV;786634]:agree: But one shaken home owner, and rightfully so. IMHO

MANY MANY more than ONE around here!

[jdsl1998]

this is a wonderful thought....renewal.....

It must be a very uneasy feeling to have your home broken into. It seems that if these thieves want to get in...they will get in. I suggested on my other post that it may be a good idea for people to have security systems and some kinda made fun of me. Now, we hear first hand that you are getting one. I guess my suggestion wasn't that far off after all. I truly hope they catch the thief but the chances are slim that you will ever get your rings back.....they have probably already sold them. Perhaps you and hubby can have a special day and go
Pick out something new that you can cherish just like your other rings. Maybe renew your vows with the new rings? Thanks Giving may have a whole new meaning this year. My heart goes out to you.

[JB in TV]

Some years ago, our home was burglarized while my wife and I were at work. We had a large German Shepard in the house, who we thought would be a good deterrent. Not! "They" pulled a package of frozen ground beef out of the freezer, and handed it to the dog as they paraded thru the house taking what they wanted..took the pillow cases off our bed to carry the loose things! We were young, recently married, and the loss was huge for us at the time. The many pieces of sentimental value (family heirlooms, my one-of-a-kind wedding band, etc) that we lost forever was hard to deal with. Still is. But the hardest was the feeling of our space being violated by strangers.

To this day, more than 35 years later, the memory is fresh. That gut wrenching feeling that we felt when we drove up after work and saw the front door wide open.

Another thing we will never forget is what the police told us...First, "they" had probably observed our schedule and knew when we were not home, and when we were likely to return. An alarm wouldn't have helped... as other have said, "they" know how to deactivate them. (granted, the technology today is better...more on alarms, see below**) ...next...the best way to protect our things is: don't put things where "they" might look...not in a safe, not under your socks in the top drawer, etc. There are many places thieves won't look...how about in an empty dixie cup box under the sink the guest bathroom, or in a covered pot in a kitchen cabinet, or an empty soft margarine container in the refrigerator...or in an empty shoe box in the closet amongst other shoe boxes? Just some suggestions...get creative...Leave a few cheap imitations under the socks and perhaps out on the dresser if you want, as a decoy. They are not going to be in your home long. If they don't find what they want in the normal places they look in a few minutes, they are out of there.

The bottom line is if "they" want to get in, they will. The point is to not keep things of value in obvious places.

** We have had one home that came with an alarm system and monitoring was paid for the first year. We dutifully set it and used it for about two weeks, they we got very weary form the feeling that we lived in a jail. We couldn't open windows or step outside without a beeping and having to reset something...

PS. Twelve years ago, wife and I renewed our wedding vows on our 25th anniversary and bought matching rings to finally replace the one that I lost years before.

[perrjojo]

[QUOTE=senior citizen;786592]I'm very glad you mentioned the old trucks cruising around, etc.
This is what I meant awhile back about the types we saw (non residents) just all over TV.....and that comment was met with disdain; thinking I had alluded to all blue collar workers. NOT. But we did see a lot of seedy looking type individuals / workers / whatever. This thread shows that robberies are indeed POSSIBLE.

Is it also happening in the "older neighborhoods" north of 466?
Or, mainly in the newer, less populated villages....more as a crime of opportunity?
Such as when all the appliances were being taken out of the new homes before residents moved in.[/QUOTE

All criminals are NOT seedy looking. All seedy looking people are not criminals.

[Bogie Shooter]

[QUOTE=senior citizen;786592]I'm very glad you mentioned the old trucks cruising around, etc.
This is what I meant awhile back about the types we saw (non residents) just all over TV.....and that comment was met with disdain; thinking I had alluded to all blue collar workers. NOT. But we did see a lot of seedy looking type individuals / workers / whatever. This thread shows that robberies are indeed POSSIBLE.

Is it also happening in the "older neighborhoods" north of 466?
Or, mainly in the newer, less populated villages....more as a crime of opportunity?
Such as when all the appliances were being taken out of the new homes before residents moved in.[/QUOTE

All criminals are NOT seedy looking. All seedy looking people are not criminals.

Well said!

[perrjojo]

.....opps. Need to re post

[perrjojo]

I'm very glad you mentioned the old trucks cruising around, etc.
This is what I meant awhile back about the types we saw (non residents) just all over TV.....and that comment was met with disdain; thinking I had alluded to all blue collar workers. NOT. But we did see a lot of seedy looking type individuals / workers / whatever. This thread shows that robberies are indeed POSSIBLE.

Is it also happening in the "older neighborhoods" north of 466?
Or, mainly in the newer, less populated villages....more as a crime of opportunity?
Such as when all the appliances were being taken out of the new homes before residents moved in.


All criminals are NOT Seedy looking and all Seedy looking people are NOT criminals.

[BobnBev]

If they simply kicked in the front door,, it sounds like they are experienced at this type of quick entry. (experienced). If they pried open the safe they must have brought the proper tool. (equipped). Sounds to me like they knew what to do , what to expect and were quick (experienced). The garbage was a tip-off likely,, indicating a new arrival with a safe as well. Every time I have been in the Villages, as a jogger, I have often seen old trucks simply crawling around , no equipment in the back and simply cruising around... may be the type,, dunno. Perhaps the local PD should stop these guys and ask a few questions. Sorry for your loss but get pro-active and please do not accept being a victim.

Have you written down information on these old trucks?
Date--Time--Location--Lic Plate #--Vehicle description,
driver/passenger description, etc?

This info could be a huge tip in solving a crime.
A small notebook and pencil is all you need.

:ho:

[Lynnelf]

Thank you all for the encouragement, advice, and suggestions. We are moving forward and will visit pawn shops this week. Security system is in place. Renewing vows is a possibility. Our daughter gets married in January. Maybe at the reception? We will move forward, but will definitely be more aware of our surroundings and will not be lured into a false sense of security again. But when all is said and done, we are not letting this ruin our retirement dreams!

[Bogie Shooter]

If they simply kicked in the front door,, it sounds like they are experienced at this type of quick entry. (experienced). If they pried open the safe they must have brought the proper tool. (equipped). Sounds to me like they knew what to do , what to expect and were quick (experienced). The garbage was a tip-off likely,, indicating a new arrival with a safe as well. Every time I have been in the Villages, as a jogger, I have often seen old trucks simply crawling around , no equipment in the back and simply cruising around... may be the type,, dunno. Perhaps the local PD should stop these guys and ask a few questions. Sorry for your loss but get pro-active and please do not accept being a victim.

What reason to stop and ask question............because they drive an old truck?

[jaackleyjr]

I am the homeowner whose home was burglarized yesterday in Sanibel. We were out and about The Villages yesterday and when we arrived home about 2 o'clock, we discovered our home had been broken into. They kicked the front door in WITH A SECURITY BAR in place. The security bar was worthless. The molding on the inside ripped away and they walked right in. The door was not even damaged. They targeted a safe that we had in the house. Now here's the thing. There has been only one worker in the house since we got that safe. The police have that information. However, we realized that we did something very stupid. We put that box out on the street for garbage pick-up and had some other garbage inside the box. The garbage pick-up has been rather late for the last several weeks so it sat in our driveway all morning. It was like a big advertisement that we had a safe and therefore, must have valuables in the house! It seems obvious now, but at the time we thought nothing of it! So please, be careful of what you are throwing out! They definitely targeted the safe and easily pried it open. It is clear to us by looking at the things they passed up, that they were looking for cash and gold. (small items only.) Unfortunately for me, I had taken off my wedding band and diamond the night before and left it right out on my nightstand. Needless to say, they were gone. They did not appear to have been in the house long. They went through the master bedroom nightstands and dresser top drawers. It does not appear that they were anywhere else in the home. When they left, it appears they walked out the back door right to the country club parking lot where they were probably parked.
So I read on the other threads regarding this burglary that everyone on the street watches out for each other. We do that on this street too but it didn't help. I read that it is almost impossible to kick in the door with a security bar in place. Not true. There are no neighbors nearby with kids living with them that I know of but there sure are lots of contractors on this street everyday. I believe it was one of them. We didn't run out and get a security system when this same thing happened to someone else in our neighborhood, but we will be getting one now. That and a safety deposit box at the bank.

I am also very sorry to hear of your unfortunate event. My wife and I live in Fernandina and have a SimpliSafe cellular alarm system, which you can install yourself. If interested, send me a PM

[JourneyOfLife]

There are a number of lower cost alarm monitoring companies nipping at the heels of the big established companies.

The cost difference can be substantial.

But I would not make a decision purely on cost, I would do some background research on any company I was considering for that sort of service. State licensing, UL certifications for facilities, BBB, customer reviews, Security Industry certifications, how long in business, etc.

A little digging on the internet will turn up a lot of information that can be used for independent verification. UL Certification for facilities can be seen on the UL Database. State Licensing Information (if the state requires it) is usually publicly available over the internet. So is a lot of other information.

Plus, ask plenty of questions.

[Cedwards38]

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[JourneyOfLife]

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I found a site that has a lot of customer reviews. Mix of good and bad reviews.

Seems like there is good educational info on there too.

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