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JourneyOfLife
11-21-2013, 03:27 PM
I saw this in a different thread. I had not heard of it before.

Thought it would be best to put up a thread on it. Something people need to be aware of for personal safety if they visit certain areas.

Hopefully the authorities will put a stop to this sort of nonsense quickly.

Apparently it has happened in Philadelphia, New York, and some other cities.

Three Knockout Attacks Reported In Philadelphia Area (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/11/20/three-knockout-game-attacks-reported-in-philadelphia-area/)


A few stiff prison sentences will probably put a stop to it pretty quickly!


Philadelphia and some other cities had a similar problem with so called Flash Mob violence and crime a couple of years ago. It often involved mob of younger people (some kids) attacking people, robbing stores of goods, etc.

NotGolfer
11-21-2013, 05:32 PM
It's so sad to hear about these kinds of things happening isn't it? I too read about it on a site from the Midwest. Our society has changed so much over the past 50 years...some change is good but some is not.

Cisco Kid
11-21-2013, 06:07 PM
Dangerous Games - "Point 'em Out, Knock 'em Out" (http://www.wilx.com/news/featured/headlines/Dangerous-Game---Point-em-Out-Knock-em-Out-231443411.html?device=phone)

Bucco
11-21-2013, 06:37 PM
Good to start this thread, but insure that everyone knows that these attacks are 100 % racial and that is not debatable.

"Thomas Sowell, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, points to the fact that the “knockout game” has racial underpinnings that the “mainstream media” has failed to describe. The game, which “has been played for years,” often targets Jews, “whites in general or people of Asian ancestry,” he said in an op-ed for the New York Post. He describes an attack in Milwaukee where attackers were heard saying, “White girl bleed a lot.” In Illinois, the game is often called “polar-bear hunting.”

What Is (http://www.ibtimes.com/what-knockout-violent-teen-game-causes-multiple-deaths-video-1476726)

Not a comfortable subject, but facts are facts

Doctommft
11-21-2013, 06:47 PM
Good to start this thread, but insure that everyone knows that these attacks are 100 % racial and that is not debatable.

"Thomas Sowell, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, points to the fact that the “knockout game” has racial underpinnings that the “mainstream media” has failed to describe. The game, which “has been played for years,” often targets Jews, “whites in general or people of Asian ancestry,” he said in an op-ed for the New York Post. He describes an attack in Milwaukee where attackers were heard saying, “White girl bleed a lot.” In Illinois, the game is often called “polar-bear hunting.”

What Is (http://www.ibtimes.com/what-knockout-violent-teen-game-causes-multiple-deaths-video-1476726)

Not a comfortable subject, but facts are facts

The lame stream press says the victims are picked at random. Random is code for white. In some areas of the country the game is called "polar bear" because polar bears are white.

Watch for groups of young blacks, male and female, eyeing possible victims. Sometimes they record the attack for utube.

Steve & Deanna
11-21-2013, 07:31 PM
The lame stream press says the victims are picked at random. Random is code for white. In some areas of the country the game is called "polar bear" because polar bears are white.

Watch for groups of young blacks, male and female, eyeing possible victims. Sometimes they record the attack for utube.

We just heard of this a few days ago on FOX News. You're right, no one else seems to be talking about this. Looks like the polar bears are being profiled.

Bucco
11-21-2013, 08:09 PM
Knowing that this will not upset folks on here as much as George Zimmermans personal life, and knowing that there will be no talk show host holding demonstrations, allow me to share.

Surprise! Media finally wake up to Knockout Game (http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/surprise-media-finally-wake-up-to-knockout-game/)

This article details attacks in 13 different cities giving the vicious nature of these attacks, each giving names, etc....if you really honestly care about racial crime, you will read it.

But please note..

"Anyone looking at the hundreds and hundreds of examples – many on video – knows this: The victims can be white. Or Asian. Or women. Or homosexual. But this much they have in common: All of attackers in the Knockout Game are black.

A St. Louis writer, activist and boxing coach talks about the Knockout Game in his video blog. He says police ignore many Knockout Game assaults because they make the city look bad.The perpetrators are black and the victims are not, he says. But the boxing coach knows why:

Most of the people who get beat up are vegans, gays, artists, non-violent types. Many are kids from the suburbs or recent immigrants. People who are not prepared to defend themselves. There are white neighborhoods – blue collar, middle class neighborhoods – where these folks will not go because they know that people there are willing to defend themselves."


I recall the weeping and gnashing of teeth in Sanford, and it was a sad case made simply horrible by certain folks, but this just goes unnoticed and I cannot help but wonder why that is

I am pretty sure that this will not get close to the views and posts from Sanford, and probably will have less than the continual pummeling of Zimmerman. I am not a defender of his, but I am someone who thinks we have twisted badly the color blindness of the legal system.

gustavo
11-21-2013, 08:52 PM
[QUOTE=Bucco;784670]... Most of the people who get beat up are vegans, gays, artists, non-violent types. Many are kids from the suburbs or recent immigrants. People who are not prepared to defend themselves. There are white neighborhoods – blue collar, middle class neighborhoods – where these folks will not go because they know that people there are willing to defend themselves."
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Darwinism??

billethkid
11-22-2013, 07:05 AM
the hunters are nothing more than puny punks who thrive on the unsuspecting and weak.....phony cowards raised to notoriety by our social media mentality (good and bad).

The attack will get news coverage when one of the attacked responds and either hurts/wounds/kills the attacker......if the color combination is correct that is!!

btk

jbdlfan
11-22-2013, 07:07 AM
Don't be surprised if they attacks begin to show up in a town near you. These attacks went viral quite a bit ago and I have heard young people talk about it for a while now.
Before anyone gives the macho man comment about "they better not try me," you won't see it coming. That's the whole point of the"game." It's a frightening development and a result of the dehumanizing attitude from this generation. I see it everyday.....

graciegirl
11-22-2013, 07:36 AM
Don't be surprised if they attacks begin to show up in a town near you. These attacks went viral quite a bit ago and I have heard young people talk about it for a while now.
Before anyone gives the macho man comment about "they better not try me," you won't see it coming. That's the whole point of the"game." It's a frightening development and a result of the dehumanizing attitude from this generation. I see it everyday.....

I absolutely agree, jbdlfan. THAT is the worst of it. I didn't know until lately that a punch, just one, to the head could kill.

How horrible to just be walking down the street and be hit by someone that you had no connection to at all. WHAT brings on such cruel actions?

Imagine what a change if that young strength was channeled into working for a living and caring for a family and saving money and enjoying life with things that you have earned. AND sitting down at Thanksgiving dinner where generations have done the same. AND having them all look proudly at you.

manaboutown
11-22-2013, 11:52 AM
Thankfully, FOX is bringing news of these attacks to public attention. They are hate crimes. The mainstream media have of course buried their heads in the sand on this.

Doctommft
11-22-2013, 12:30 PM
[QUOTE=Bucco;784670]... Most of the people who get beat up are vegans, gays, artists, non-violent types. Many are kids from the suburbs or recent immigrants. People who are not prepared to defend themselves. There are white neighborhoods – blue collar, middle class neighborhoods – where these folks will not go because they know that people there are willing to defend themselves."
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Darwinism??

How do the predators know if their intended victims are vegan, gay or artists? Few people attacked by one individual with a gang only feet away would defend himself other than run away. Support conceal/carry laws.

billethkid
11-22-2013, 01:30 PM
how do they know whether they are armed or not?

I suspect being the cowards they are they scope looking for safe bet hits of the meek and mild mannered.

They can be categorized in a manner of speaking of being nothing more than terrorists.....same mode of operating...cowards picking on women, children and other innocents.

btk

DAWN MARIE
11-22-2013, 02:57 PM
one word for this... barbaric!

leftyf
11-22-2013, 07:48 PM
When one or several of the colored kids get shot by someone carrying a concealed weapon, he will just be another poor innocent black kid just like Travon Martin.

mac9
11-22-2013, 08:29 PM
when one or several of the colored kids get shot by someone carrying a concealed weapon, he will just be another poor innocent black kid just like travon martin.
colored kids?????????????????

BobnBev
11-22-2013, 09:15 PM
colored kids?????????????????

Trying to stir the pot???????

jbdlfan
11-22-2013, 10:18 PM
Hate to tell you but you can be carrying but when someone drills you from behind, your gun won't help. That's the point of the attack. Also, they, the victims, aren't just the meek or whatever, when you get hit that hard without warning, you're going down. Period! Not to mention, they won't be alone, usually three to ten.

donb9006
11-22-2013, 11:57 PM
We all know who is doing this...yet we're not allowed to speak of them or blame them...we've bee so snookered. Time to wake up people.

mac9
11-23-2013, 02:23 AM
Trying to stir the pot???????

Quite the opposite. It is a term that I haven't heard for 40 or so years. Perhaps the original user of the term is trying to stir the pot or actually is older than I!!

redwitch
11-23-2013, 05:27 AM
Oh, good grief! Comparing these thugs to the Travon Martin incident is ridiculous! Saying that we're not allowed to mention that these thugs are black and the victims are white is unspeakable?

There's a HUGE difference between a young man walking home and feeling intimidated and being shot and someone coming up and bashing an innocent victim over the head and getting shot (if this ever can/does occur). I sincerely doubt there would be much of an outcry if that happened. What makes it dangerous is that it would be just as easy to shoot an innocent young, black male who came towards you because you thought he MIGHT be ready to knock you out -- then it becomes another Travon Martin incident. That I can see happening.

And I have yet to see a report that doesn't specifically say it is done by young, black males and the victims are always of another race. So, how are we being snookered?

These are ugly, random acts of violence. I'm not sure there is a way to stop them. Most of the punks who do this have no fear of jail; they rarely expect to live past the age of 25, so not much to scare them into stopping. BTW -- the more attention that is given to these acts, the more likely they are to escalate and, sooner or later, white teens will follow suit. Ugly, but true.

scarecrow1
11-23-2013, 08:07 AM
It's not racially motivated as there are many white neo nazi groups that practice the same game. The press chooses not to report them. Think about it. Just because Fox reports it, it doesn't mean it's factual or not biase.

scarecrow1
11-23-2013, 08:09 AM
It's not racially motivated as there are many white neo nazi groups that practice the same game. The press chooses not to report them. Think about it. Just because Fox reports it, it doesn't mean it's factual or not bias.

graciegirl
11-23-2013, 08:14 AM
It's not racially motivated as there are many white neo nazi groups that practice the same game. The press chooses not to report them. Think about it. Just because Fox reports it, it doesn't mean it's factual or not bias.

umm.

In my opinion. that didn't bear repeating.

Redwitch...You are fairer than I ever thought.

If you could just view those M's in a more kindly light, you would be perfect.

But I love you anyway.

By the way, I think Harry is getting too fat. Now WHAT do I do?

leftyf
11-23-2013, 08:36 AM
colored kids?????????????????

naacp

leftyf
11-23-2013, 08:38 AM
trying to stir the pot???????

naacp

leftyf
11-23-2013, 09:03 AM
quite the opposite. It is a term that i haven't heard for 40 or so years. Perhaps the original user of the term is trying to stir the pot or actually is older than i!!

naacp

leftyf
11-23-2013, 09:08 AM
Hate to tell you but you can be carrying but when someone drills you from behind, your gun won't help. That's the point of the attack. Also, they, the victims, aren't just the meek or whatever, when you get hit that hard without warning, you're going down. Period! Not to mention, they won't be alone, usually three to ten.

I just saw on the news they were talking about these attacks and a man in Michigan shot a black kid who hit him and didn't knock him out. The black kid gave an interview from jail. It didn't say if the shooter was charged.

Peachie
11-23-2013, 09:24 AM
I just saw on the news they were talking about these attacks and a man in Michigan shot a black kid who hit him and didn't knock him out. The black kid gave an interview from jail. It didn't say if the shooter was charged.

If it's the piece I saw, shooter wasn't charged since the kid stuck a tazer (?) gun in the man's side but it didn't penetrate the man.

Kid said he was sorry he did it, it was stupid and he was just trying to hang with his peers. Now the kid has a hole in him and a record, dumber than dumb.

CFrance
11-23-2013, 09:27 AM
[QUOTE=graciegirl;785422]umm.

In my opinion. that didn't bear repeating.

Redwitch...You are fairer than I ever thought.

If you could just view those M's in a more kindly light, you would be perfect.

But I love you anyway.

]By the way, I think Harry is getting too fat. Now WHAT do I do?[/QUOTE

Post that question on the all about pets forum and we will be joyfully occupied over there for days!

graciegirl
11-23-2013, 09:33 AM
[QUOTE=graciegirl;785422]umm.

In my opinion. that didn't bear repeating.

Redwitch...You are fairer than I ever thought.

If you could just view those M's in a more kindly light, you would be perfect.

But I love you anyway.

]By the way, I think Harry is getting too fat. Now WHAT do I do?[/QUOTE

Post that question on the all about pets forum and we will be joyfully occupied over there for days!


Did I change the subject?

I do that sometimes when I see trouble brewing.

Sometimes things are racist is origin with all colors being wrong....and sometimes right.

If OUR group is doing something wrong, we can change that...only in ourselves. But others are watching, and hoping that we all get it right and not just throw in with bad stuff.

It is SO hard not to summarize when we see something repeated by a club, a political party, a generation, an economic class...whatever. AND sometimes we are more right than wrong. It is only when we don't personally make ourselves improve and not blame ALL of the other gender, race, generation, club, class whatever that things get worse.

My opinion only.

Worth not much.

CFrance
11-23-2013, 09:36 AM
[quote=CFrance;785476]


Did I change the subject?

I do that sometimes when I see trouble brewing.

Sometimes things are racist is origin with all colors being wrong....and sometimes right.

If OUR group is doing something wrong, we can change that...only in ourselves. But others are watching, and hoping that we all get it right and not just throw in with bad stuff.

It is SO hard not to summarize when we see something repeated by a club, a political party, a generation, an economic class...whatever. AND sometimes we are more right than wrong. It is only when we don't personally make ourselves improve and not blame ALL of the other gender, race, generation, club, class whatever that things get worse.

My opinion only.

Worth not much.

Words of wisdom.

redwitch
11-23-2013, 11:44 AM
Just was talking to a gentleman (42) from Brooklyn (Williamsburg to be precise). He told me that the knock out game has been around since at least the 70s, if not earlier. To his shame, he participated in it quite willingly. There was, however, a huge difference in the game as played by him and his peers -- you got points for knocking down someone bigger or the same size as you and it could only be another male and was black on black. If you didn't knock him out, you fought. He thinks the new variation is absolutely disgusting and was ashamed that he had even participated in the older version.

donb9006
11-24-2013, 09:36 AM
New Jersey Teens come up with a new game called "Knockout" - YouTube (http://tinyurl.com/ooxctrg)

When are you going to open up your eyes? Stop making excuses for them?

graciegirl
11-24-2013, 09:43 AM
New Jersey Teens come up with a new game called "Knockout" - YouTube (http://tinyurl.com/ooxctrg)

When are you going to open up your eyes? Stop making excuses for them?

We have to try to remember that it isn't all of THEM, it is some of THEM.

Even saying it that way doesn't sound kind.

I understand what you are trying to say, but we cannot throw the baby out with the bath water. It is wrong.

Somehow we have to figure out HOW to correct society's wrongs.

And not ADD to the problems.

Hating and hurting is always wrong, no matter who does it.

mrsanborn
11-24-2013, 10:51 AM
Kid said he was sorry he did it, it was stupid and he was just trying to hang with his peers. Now the kid has a hole in him and a record, dumber than dumb.

Funny how most people who are caught are sorry.

redwitch
11-24-2013, 11:54 AM
Funny how most people who are caught are sorry.

Actually, few gang members are sorry they get caught -- it is a rite of passage to them. And, from what I can tell, these knock-out thugs have much of the same stupid mentality. Also, if you read the history of the teen who got shot, I believe he was sorry and that it was stupidity and peer pressure for him. Sadly, his being shot and being regretful is not going to stop others from continuing these acts. I'm not convinced there is anything that will, at least not until a better, meaner game is developed.

Walt.
11-27-2013, 11:04 AM
And I have yet to see a report that doesn't specifically say it is done by young, black males and the victims are always of another race. So, how are we being snookered?

These are ugly, random acts of violence. I'm not sure there is a way to stop them. Most of the punks who do this have no fear of jail; they rarely expect to live past the age of 25, so not much to scare them into stopping. BTW -- the more attention that is given to these acts, the more likely they are to escalate and, sooner or later, white teens will follow suit. Ugly, but true.

Actually, if you read the Daily Sun on November 22, on page A13 there is quite an extensive article about the assaults. At no point was it mentioned that these were done by young black males. These attacks were attributed to "impulsive teenage boys." It was an Associated Press story so it didn't surprise me.

JourneyOfLife
11-27-2013, 12:30 PM
The incidents keeps occurring.

Possible 'knockout' game victim: 'The whole group of kids laughed' - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/26/us/knockout-game/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews)

Walt.
11-27-2013, 02:53 PM
The incidents keeps occurring.

Possible 'knockout' game victim: 'The whole group of kids laughed' - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/26/us/knockout-game/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews)

"And I have yet to see a report that doesn't specifically say it is done by young, black males and the victims are always of another race. So, how are we being snookered?"

So... an outfit like the Associated Press, which delivers the news content to hundreds (thousands?) of newspapers across the country and CNN which is (was) the international cable news network both fail to mention an important aspect of the story. Just an oversight? Really?

TexaninVA
11-27-2013, 04:49 PM
I absolutely agree, jbdlfan. THAT is the worst of it. I didn't know until lately that a punch, just one, to the head could kill.

How horrible to just be walking down the street and be hit by someone that you had no connection to at all. WHAT brings on such cruel actions?

Imagine what a change if that young strength was channeled into working for a living and caring for a family and saving money and enjoying life with things that you have earned. AND sitting down at Thanksgiving dinner where generations have done the same. AND having them all look proudly at you.

I agree with jb's comments and your observations. This "game" is another manifestation of cultural degradation caused primarily by the welfare state which removes the Father from the family ... not to mention elimination of religious norms. From a historical perspective this can only be described as societal suicidal lunacy.

TrudyM
11-27-2013, 04:58 PM
Good to start this thread, but insure that everyone knows that these attacks are 100 % racial and that is not debatable.

"Thomas Sowell, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, points to the fact that the “knockout game” has racial underpinnings that the “mainstream media” has failed to describe. The game, which “has been played for years,” often targets Jews, “whites in general or people of Asian ancestry,” he said in an op-ed for the New York Post. He describes an attack in Milwaukee where attackers were heard saying, “White girl bleed a lot.” In Illinois, the game is often called “polar-bear hunting.”

What Is (http://www.ibtimes.com/what-knockout-violent-teen-game-causes-multiple-deaths-video-1476726)

Not a comfortable subject, but facts are facts

I don't think this is as new as the press is saying. They are saying it is only in the last 6 months. A cousin of my husband was attacked like this in DC. while back I am thinking two years. They called him a chink and made comments about the points they would get for knocking him out. Real idiots he is Japanese not Chinese. Then the victim was arrested because this 60's target put two of his three attackers in the hospital. They didn't in the end charge him.
His dad teaches martial arts and he was a career marine. Boy did they pick the wrong guy. I wonder if these kids will think twice before they attack another random Asian.

buggyone
11-30-2013, 12:08 AM
Sounds to meas too many people are relying on Faux News for their sources and thus tend to think of a knockout attact to be a racial thing.

Actually, the videoing of it and posting on YouTube and the flitting glimpse of being viewed is the culprit.

rmc
11-30-2013, 01:30 AM
Sounds to meas too many people are relying on Faux News for their sources and thus tend to think of a knockout attact to be a racial thing.

Actually, the videoing of it and posting on YouTube and the flitting glimpse of being viewed is the culprit.

It is a racial thing. Been going on for a long while. In Chicago, along Michigan ave. the mobs of young blacks have been attacking shoppers for the past couple years. They use social media and gather, then start their "polar bear" hunting. Get your heads out of the sand yous.

Parker
11-30-2013, 06:25 AM
Doesn't anyone blame You Tube for perpetuating and inciting violence? I do.

graciegirl
11-30-2013, 08:09 AM
Sounds to meas too many people are relying on Faux News for their sources and thus tend to think of a knockout attact to be a racial thing.

Actually, the videoing of it and posting on YouTube and the flitting glimpse of being viewed is the culprit.



Unfair, Buggy my respected friend. Reported on all wires. It is unfortunately true. It isn't helping ANYTHING.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/new-york-chef-victim-knockout-game-article-1.1531959

VERY sad and angry making. Totally without cause.

jbdlfan
11-30-2013, 04:14 PM
Doesn't anyone blame You Tube for perpetuating and inciting violence? I do.

How about we blame the culprits, not the delivery source. This happened before YouTube.....

Parker
12-01-2013, 05:52 AM
I agree with you jbdlfan, but many of those culprits are motivated by seeing their actions on YouTube. I guess it is their 15 minutes of fame.

PaPaLarry
12-01-2013, 06:25 AM
I cringe, every time I hear about this. Beating up on innocent defenseless people, just makes me angry. Leaders need to "step up to the plate" and teach these people morals and respect for their common man & woman. This is outrageous, and to see innocent people, whether be black or white, just mutilating people, for the fun of it, is something we need to take serious. I saw it on Fox News, about a week or two ago, and hopefully the other News Stations are reporting it also. What makes kids think like this? Now, when we go shopping in malls, or wherever, if we see kids congregating, or walking by, we are going to have that caution feeling. Not a way to live!! I would hope we are a better society then that, and we teach our children morals and respect!! Say it isn't true please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Villages PL
12-01-2013, 04:06 PM
How to avoid being punched-out. Be aware of your suroundings at all times when out in public. If you see anyone approaching you that makes you feel uneasy or fearful, take evasive action, like crossing the street.

Don't think, "oh, I'll be okay" and go against your gut feeling. Don't think, "oh, crossing the street means I'm being prejudiced." Better to be mistaken than take the chance of having your head bashed in.

janmcn
12-01-2013, 05:08 PM
More people were injured while shopping at Wal-Mart this week-end than were injured in a knock-out attack.

redwitch
12-01-2013, 05:11 PM
How to avoid being punched-out. Be aware of your suroundings at all times when out in public. If you see anyone approaching you that makes you feel uneasy or fearful, take evasive action, like crossing the street.

Don't think, "oh, I'll be okay" and go against your gut feeling. Don't think, "oh, crossing the street means I'm being prejudiced." Better to be mistaken than take the chance of having your head bashed in.

The problem with this is most of these attacks are coming from behind, so you're totally unaware anyone is even there.

It is a sad state of affairs and no question the welfare system of the 60s needs to take a lot of the blame. Women and children living in poverty were forced to not have the father in house -- male home, no money (he can work even if he can't find a job). It made it real easy for a man to abrogate his responsibilities. Worse yet, it forced some good men on hard times to quit being a husband and a father. By the 70s and 80s, raising a child alone was common and nothing has changed. Maybe it is time to consider giving bonuses to men who stay with their families but are having true difficulties finding a job rather than saying there must not be a male presence?

There are no easy answers. These people (whether young blacks or Neo-Nazis [both groups are doing it]) have little to no respect for life, even their own. If you're pretty sure you'll be dead long before you turn 30 (and that death will normally be a violent one), there is little reason to act morally.

We can try to be vigilant to protect ourselves but, in the long run, that isn't going to help change things. Somehow we need to find a way to teach our impoverished youth of any color that they have value not just to their families but to this society and to themselves. Until that happens, things like this game will only continue occurring and, worse yet, things will become more and more violent.