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FLSun
12-10-2013, 12:14 PM
Has anyone recently had their credit card number compromised? Maybe after having restaurant server take card to back room to process? If you suspect this happened at a certain location, please voice concerns to the manager. Except for time of use, our cards are foil shielded. Someone enjoyed our number yesterday.
hema54
12-10-2013, 12:17 PM
You should share where it happened so that others are aware. I'd like to know so that I don't use my card there.
Bogie Shooter
12-10-2013, 12:23 PM
You should share where it happened so that others are aware. I'd like to know so that I don't use my card there.
Are you assuming all servers are doing this? What if he offending employee was fired, why drag the restaurant onto the internet?
Easyrider
12-10-2013, 01:46 PM
Has anyone recently had their credit card number compromised? Maybe after having restaurant server take card to back room to process? If you suspect this happened at a certain location, please voice concerns to the manager. Except for time of use, our cards are foil shielded. Someone enjoyed our number yesterday.
In Europe credit cards are processed at your table with a hand held device. Why has the US not adapted this I wonder?
Should scratch off or at least black out the 3 digit code on the back of your cards so it is known to no one except you. With the code online orders are no problem for someone wanting to use it.
Has anyone recently had their credit card number compromised? Maybe after having restaurant server take card to back room to process? If you suspect this happened at a certain location, please voice concerns to the manager. Except for time of use, our cards are foil shielded. Someone enjoyed our number yesterday.
Almost always happened at your last purchase unless you had many in one day. Needs to be reported to the Fraud Dept. of your bank, they will shut the card off and FedEx you a new number.
Better a credit card (no liability) than your Debit Card (where they can empty your checking account).
You have an RFID credit card?
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Carla B
12-10-2013, 03:01 PM
[QUOTE=Easyrider;793400]In Europe credit cards are processed at your table with a hand held device. Why has the US not adapted this I wonder?
Yes, I wonder the same thing. The way they do some things in Europe makes more sense. Our credit card number was stolen last summer, probably at a restaurant in TV. Whoever got the number enjoyed a big purchase at Home Depot in Phoenix.
Cobh521
12-10-2013, 03:38 PM
There is an establishment in Brownwood that requires your card if you want to keep a tab. We did not like this idea, even though we accepted it. We were correct in our assumptions, they did not give our card back and in about an hour I witnessed the waitress giving our card to someone else. It was a big mess that had to be straightened out.
Gulfhills
12-10-2013, 06:46 PM
A few weeks ago, my bank called to ask me some questions about my credit card. Someone was trying to make a purchase at an Apple store in Cal., another in Wisconsin, in the U.K. etc etc. They stopped it, and I went immediately to bank to put in for another one.
While there I asked them how or where did they get the number. There are so many ways they can get it, with the new and advanced technology we have today.
Lesson learned, we only take cash for going out to eat. Only trust a few online places where I shop. But if you think about it....there are so many places where you use your debit/credit card. I won't give up using it for gas!! LOL.
Just be careful and check your bank statement regularly online or however you do it.
villagetinker
12-10-2013, 07:28 PM
I had something similar happed, twice ion the last 3 years. As it turns out someone just happened to mistype a digit or 2 on their account number, and ended up with mine. A quick call to the credit card company straightened things out quickly.
I took advantage of my credit card emailing me for all charges above $25, and all phone or internet charges. I have actually had notifications and been on the phone with the credit card company in 15 minutes of the charge occurring. I was in my email system at the time.
And if this was not a simple error, report it as was previously mentioned, and get a new card.
Bogie Shooter
12-10-2013, 08:33 PM
A few weeks ago, my bank called to ask me some questions about my credit card. Someone was trying to make a purchase at an Apple store in Cal., another in Wisconsin, in the U.K. etc etc. They stopped it, and I went immediately to bank to put in for another one.
While there I asked them how or where did they get the number. There are so many ways they can get it, with the new and advanced technology we have today.
Lesson learned, we only take cash for going out to eat. Only trust a few online places where I shop. But if you think about it....there are so many places where you use your debit/credit card. I won't give up using it for gas!! LOL.
Just be careful and check your bank statement regularly online or however you do it.
Maybe you should.
New Breed of Credit Card Thieves Target Gas Pumps - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/breed-credit-card-thieves-target-gas-pumps/story?id=20100210)
As it turns out someone just happened to mistype a digit or 2 on their account number.
Sorry - not possible, all the digits have to add up to the checksum. Change one digit and the card number is not a valid one, so the charge won't go through. It's known as the Luhn Algorithum. You can't just make up a card number. Reason you got charged was because your number was lifted somewhere including your expiration date.
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JB in TV
12-10-2013, 09:58 PM
Sorry - not possible, all the digits have to add up to the checksum. Change one digit and the card number is not a valid one, so the charge won't go through. It's known as the Luhn Algorithum. You can't just make up a card number. Reason you got charged was because your number was lifted somewhere including your expiration date.
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Very interesting info... I googled Luhn Alogrithum, but didn't care to follow the math! Thanks for sharing...Something I never knew about credit card account numbers!
I would guess American Express works the same? They have more digits...my wife and I share an account, each card has the same digits until the last few.
The Luhn Algorithm:
Take your credit card number (13 to 19 digits).
Drop the last digit and call it the checksum.
Now reverse the remaining digits.
Multiply the odd digits by 2.
Subtract 9 from all numbers over 9.
Add the new digits to get a sum.
Increase the sum by a one digit number to get to a number ending in zero.
The amount you increased it by will be the same as the checksum.
That means the card number is a valid one, but doesn't mean the account is still open or it hasn't expired.
If it doesn't match, it's a phony number and any online shopping cart will reject it before it tries to process it. It knows you typed it incorrectly.
Try it.
BTW, I use SafeShop for all purchases online. Once you have a grand total, get a SafeShop VISA number for that amount (online in another window). Looks just like a VISA credit card number with expiration date and security code. Works only once for only that amount. Can't be used again.
Neat (safe) idea.
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2BNTV
12-10-2013, 10:48 PM
Maybe you should.
New Breed of Credit Card Thieves Target Gas Pumps - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/breed-credit-card-thieves-target-gas-pumps/story?id=20100210)
I think this is what happened to me, about a month/2 momnths ago. I can only think of a friend of mine wanting to pay cash for gas, instead of using a CC as he was very concerned about theft.
Fortunately, my CC company was on the ball and automatically shut my access to the card off. I was at Publix and thought it strange that my CC was not accepted. I initially thought the card itself had developed a swiping problem, or their machine, was less than perfect. When I called the CC people, they verified that a $99 charge to my account looked strange, and I knew I hadn't charged anything for $99 so they deactivated my CC.
After I received a new CC, I went to see son in Ft lauderdale and I made a large purchase. Again, they deactivated the card, again. If you are traveling to another state, it might be advisable, to let them know, so your card is not deactivated and they it's you, making the charges.
The last thing is, they did not me responsible in any way, for the $99 charge. I would be more careful when pumping gas, in that no one is around me, to steal my CC info.
UpNorth
12-10-2013, 10:49 PM
Several years ago, we gave the number of a never-used Master Card to the Villages Daily Sun over the phone to pay for paper delivery on a month's rental. Within a week we were racking up charges on the card in Poland. Needless to say, Master Card caught this and stopped it pretty quickly.
Several years ago, we gave the number of a never-used Master Card to The Villages Daily Sun over the phone
Wow! The Daily Sun?
Correction: ShopSafe not SafeShop.
Would still like to know why FLSun foil shields their card...
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...they did not (make) me responsible in any way, for the $99 charge.
Your maximum responsibility UNDER LAW is $50 on a credit card. Most banks waive that limit and advertise you are never responsible for ANY fraudulent use. They will cover it all. Now you know why the interest rates are so high on credit cards.
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jbdlfan
12-11-2013, 10:56 AM
People are getting their identities stolen from social media such as this and Facebook. People give out their names, addresses, telephone numbers, etc. This is all these guys need to get started.
Wing-nut2
12-11-2013, 11:17 AM
It may not be a restaurant, any computer your number is in can, and may have been, compromised.
The Buckeyes
12-11-2013, 01:16 PM
Notifying your cc company when traveling does not always work. Three times last year our discover cards were refused at Walmart on 466. To both of our cards in March and then on another trip with my card in June. Our balances are paid every month so that has nothing to do with it. Consequently I was very upset when I contacted Discover. After my conversation I felt a little guilty on the wrath I bestowed on that employee! But then again, it comes with the territory.
rubicon
12-11-2013, 01:50 PM
This crime is so prevalent that I am seriously considering using my credit card only when really needed. No more in restaurants and at gas stations.
I need to contact me credit card company for a serious discussion
People give out their names, addresses, telephone numbers, etc.
You mean like the phonebook?
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This crime is so prevalent that I am seriously considering using my credit card only when really needed. No more in restaurants and at gas stations.
I need to contact me credit card company for a serious discussion
Don't worry too much about your credit card. It's your debit card you need to worry about.
I intentionally write on the back "PASSCODE: 8429". A thief tries that number 3 times and the card gets taken away. It's the wrong passcode! My bank account (with $1,254,589.29 in it) is still safe. :D
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PS: Unfortunately some banks now have ATM machines that spit back your card BEFORE the PIN is entered.
jbdlfan
12-12-2013, 06:38 AM
You mean like the phonebook?
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Phone books don't have pictures, friends lists, likes, dislikes, and other personal information.
bluejaypop
12-12-2013, 02:50 PM
The Luhn algorithm will detect any single-digit error, as well as almost all transpositions of adjacent digits. It will not, however, detect transposition of the two-digit sequence 09 to 90 (or vice versa). It will detect 7 of the 10 possible twin errors (it will not detect 22 ↔ 55, 33 ↔ 66 or 44 ↔ 77).
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