Burglary on Adrienne Way

[Happinow]

I now know,what happened on Adrienne Way in the village of Sanibel. There was a home burglary. The front door was kicked in either last night or today. The owners were away. No word yet on what was taken. It's starting to make me a little uneasy. What is it with Sanibel?? This is the third burglary in about 3 months.

[redwitch]

It happens in new neighborhoods. Seems that thieves are getting braver and meaner, though. Previously, it wasn't breaking down doors but more "sneaking in" (open lanais, unlocked front doors). It will stop when the new builds are done and more people have moved in and are out and about. At least that's been the case in previous burglaries.

[graciegirl]

Redwitch...this one seems to be in a lived in area.

My guess is that this is the same lowlife scummy person. All within houses of each other with easy access to the parking lot at Bonifay???. THREE and all with the front doors kicked in.


They are gonna catch this guy and I am gonna cheer.


Creep, nasty low life stealer!!!


Work and make your OWN money.

[Cedwards38]

Security system! Problem solved.

[JIMROY]

There is a heroin addict living right near that home. She frequents the
Sanibel pool to shoot up in the bathroom. She also hooks up many of her
purchases in the parking area there or on her street. ( we have told her not
to use the bathroom anymore as she ties it up for 30 minutes at a time )
I think this may be why the breakins are localized.............

[gerryh1943]

Might want to alert police with info

[rubicon]

Appears the lowlife scum have found that The Villages is quite vulnerable not policed well and easily accessed. There is a drug addict using a public bathroom and no one bothered to tell the local police.?

[DEWRDW]

You have to be kidding - the police haven't been notified of this activity?

[graciegirl]

There is a heroin addict living right near that home. She frequents the
Sanibel pool to shoot up in the bathroom. She also hooks up many of her
purchases in the parking area there or on her street. ( we have told her not
to use the bathroom anymore as she ties it up for 30 minutes at a time )
I think this may be why the breakins are localized.............




Would SHE be able to kick in doors? I can't see how a woman could do that.


As I reread your old posts I see that you are the person who plays the music loud at the Sanibel Pool.

Are these activities what the pool group has surmised? Why hasn't someone reported her to law enforcement?

How do you know that she is using the bathroom for this activity and how can a villager tell another villager to not use a public restroom? Did you find drug stuff there? Maybe she is drinking? If you saw drug activity in the parking lot, why didn't you report it?


Pardon me for the questioning, but I watch a lot of TV shows. And Judge Judy too.

[Bogie Shooter]

There is a heroin addict living right near that home. She frequents the
Sanibel pool to shoot up in the bathroom. She also hooks up many of her
purchases in the parking area there or on her street. ( we have told her not
to use the bathroom anymore as she ties it up for 30 minutes at a time )
I think this may be why the breakins are localized.............


Shooting up at the pool, dealing in the parking lot; Why didn't you call the sheriff?

I would be embarrassed to post such information.............that I had not called the sheriff.

[Happinow]

There is a heroin addict living right near that home. She frequents the
Sanibel pool to shoot up in the bathroom. She also hooks up many of her
purchases in the parking area there or on her street. ( we have told her not
to use the bathroom anymore as she ties it up for 30 minutes at a time )
I think this may be why the breakins are localized.............

I know where she lives. Seen her many times wandering around....seems she's waiting for someone.

[Bogie Shooter]

I know where she lives. Seen her many times wandering around....seems she's waiting for someone.

I think on the street that is called "a buy".

[bonrich]

The Sanibel area is all built out and has been for quite some time. There may be a lot here and there that is not built on as yet, but scarce. I do believe all the lots bordering the golf course is full. I am wondering if the thieves are targeting homes that the owners are full time, or nearly so. Seasonal residents don't leave valuables behind, jewelry, etc when they go back North or West. So, TV's and disc players and such may not be the pick of the thieves since they are large to move out, and probably do not have enough resell value to be worth the risk.

[graciegirl]

The Sanibel area is all built out and has been for quite some time. There may be a lot here and there that is not built on as yet, but scarce. I do believe all the lots bordering the golf course is full. I am wondering if the thieves are targeting homes that the owners are full time, or nearly so. Seasonal residents don't leave valuables behind, jewelry, etc when they go back North or West. So, TV's and disc players and such may not be the pick of the thieves since they are large to move out, and probably do not have enough resell value to be worth the risk.



Bonrich.


I know you live in Sanibel. I know this is very worrisome to you and other nice folks who live there. Sanibel is just a lovely area and people take such good care of things there.


Does it look like the same person to you? How can they KNOW when people leave their homes in broad daylight???


Had you heard about this supposed Heroin addict?


I can't imagine that they won't catch him/her soon. I so hope so.

[buggyone]

Shooting up at the pool, dealing in the parking lot; Why didn't you call the sheriff?

I would be embarrassed to post such information.............that I had not called the sheriff.

Once again, Bogie speaks what is on others minds. If a person knows a drug user is buying drugs in The Villages in a pool parking lot AND shooting up in the restroom - why hasn't the poster called the sheriff?

The answer is most likely because it is not really happening!

From what I have heard, there is a large number of Villagers who "pack heat" whenever they leave the house. Why haven't they intervened if this is really happening? Once again, because it is not happening!

...and I really doubt that a female drug addict could kick in a front door and carry off loot unnoticed to anyone.

[gerryann]

I know where she lives. Seen her many times wandering around....seems she's waiting for someone.

I missed something here......so, you know where a heroin addict who shoots up in the pool bathroom lives and you have done nothing about this??? You are kidding right?

[yabbadu]

And the stupid people live on!

[bonrich]

Bonrich.


I know you live in Sanibel. I know this is very worrisome to you and other nice folks who live there. Sanibel is just a lovely area and people take such good care of things there.


Does it look like the same person to you? How can they KNOW when people leave their homes in broad daylight???


Had you heard about this supposed Heroin addict?


I can't imagine that they won't catch him/her soon. I so hope so.

Gracie, Your question of how can they know when people leave their homes in broad daylight comes to my mind as I think of all the service crews working in all our areas, from lawn care, house washing, handyman work, etc. All of them have access to our property, not only to do the service work, but we can be under observation of our comings and goings by employees. Not saying all our bad, but a worker for a reputable business could be the eyes needed to set up a next hit.
How to ensure that your or I is not the next home, don't know at this time. But maybe have to put in an alarm system, as one thought. Securing the front door and exiting and entering through the garage another, not the best answer for sure. Such a conundrum.......

[graciegirl]

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[kittygilchrist]

All that is necessary to know who's not home is to ride down the street garbage collection day.

[tommy steam]

There is a heroin addict living right near that home. She frequents the
Sanibel pool to shoot up in the bathroom. She also hooks up many of her
purchases in the parking area there or on her street. ( we have told her not
to use the bathroom anymore as she ties it up for 30 minutes at a time )
I think this may be why the breakins are localized.............

If you are a witness to this , it's your duty to call the cops and report it as it's happening. As they say , if you see something, say something.

[Happinow]

I missed something here......so, you know where a heroin addict who shoots up in the pool bathroom lives and you have done nothing about this??? You are kidding right?

Can't prove a thing that's why nothing has been done. She looks the part and acts suspicious at times but can't prove she's a drug addict. Maybe the OP has seen more than I.

[Peachie]

Can't prove a thing that's why nothing has been done. She looks the part and acts suspicious at times but can't prove she's a drug addict. Maybe the OP has seen more than I.

Suspicious activity can be reported to the authorities and they most likely will monitor or set up decoys for the situation. It should be reported.

[asianthree]

news is if the person is tying up the bathroom for half hour, she or he is runing out of veins...have to wonder if she or he may be a diabetic, and strange and odd behavior may be due to not using insulin correctly, or early signs of alzheimer

[graciegirl]

news is if the person is tying up the bathroom for half hour, she or he is runing out of veins...have to wonder if she or he may be a diabetic, and strange and odd behavior may be due to not using insulin correctly, or early signs of alzheimer



Or any number of things that a gastroenterologist might be of help with.


I think that Bonrich is probably right on with her assessment.


WHO were the firms cutting grass at the time of the break ins?

[Halibut]

I see nothing in Jimroy's post to indicate whether he has or has not contacted the police. Perhaps he has and there was nothing they could do? Does hanging around at the pool, using the restroom for long periods, meeting other people, or walking around one's neighborhood constitute a crime? I wouldn't imagine a local ordinance like loitering would even apply.

I guess the police would need to set up surveillance and catch a drug transaction in process in order to make an arrest, and what's the probable cause for that? I'm also doubtful that anyone would walk to a public restroom to shoot up when they could easily do that in their home. She's not living on the street with nowhere else to go.

[gustavo]

All that is necessary to know who's not home is to ride down the street garbage collection day.

Not necessarily, we have a low carbon footprint and often skip a day or even a week of pickup. We do have many guns in the house and on our person though.

[kittygilchrist]

ditto, Gustavo. I've had my door kicked in before and would not hesitate to shoot.

[Bogie Shooter]

Ah, here come the gunners..............................

[graciegirl]

I have cause to believe that there wasn't another burglary in the last few days in the vicinity of Adrienne Way.


I talked to one of our local news sources and that person had not heard of anything in that area.


Does anyone here know of it being reported anywhere? Locally? The Orlando Sentinel?

[JB in TV]

All that is necessary to know who's not home is to ride down the street garbage collection day.

So, just for converstion sake, you are saying any home without bags has no one home? We don't generate enough trash to put ours out twice a week. Just saying... :)

[buggyone]

I now know,what happened on Adrienne Way in the village of Sanibel. There was a home burglary. The front door was kicked in either last night or today. The owners were away. No word yet on what was taken. It's starting to make me a little uneasy. What is it with Sanibel?? This is the third burglary in about 3 months.

So, after 4 pages of posts, I saw absolutely NOTHING of this being a THIRD burglary on Adrienne Way - I claim it DID NOT HAPPEN.

Just some of the "I heard it happened" from neighbors at the pool or rec centers but NOTHING to substantiate what happened - which was NOTHING.

[keithwand]

So, after 4 pages of posts, I saw absolutely NOTHING of this being a THIRD burglary on Adrienne Way - I claim it DID NOT HAPPEN.

Just some of the "I heard it happened" from neighbors at the pool or rec centers but NOTHING to substantiate what happened - which was NOTHING.

I am glad I do not live South of 466A!!!

Why?

[SteveBressi]

New Flash - Contrary to the Morse Family Propaganda Machine - Crime does happen in the Villages. This is fact despite the silence of the "Good News Paper,' WVLG and the lies of the sales agents who work for the developer (One actually told a friend in my presence that "crime was non-existent" in the Villages. Of course, I called her on it). With that said, the Villages is one of the safest communities anywhere in the country. However, as the Villages grows and becomes more prominent as a Florida population center, the frequency of crime will increase. As residents, we need to maintain the same level of vigilance and common sense that we had before we moved to the Villages. We can not prevent someone from kicking a door in, but we can lock our houses and cars and call law enforcement when something looks suspicious.

[Bogie Shooter]

New Flash - Contrary to the Morse Family Propaganda Machine - Crime does happen in the Villages. This is fact despite the silence of the "Good News Paper,' WVLG and the lies of the sales agents who work for the developer (One actually told a friend in my presence that "crime was non-existent" in the Villages. Of course, I called her on it). With that said, the Villages is one of the safest communities anywhere in the country. However, as the Villages grows and becomes more prominent as a Florida population center, the frequency of crime will increase. As residents, we need to maintain the same level of vigilance and common sense that we had before we moved to the Villages. We can not prevent someone from kicking a door in, but we can lock our houses and cars and call law enforcement when something looks suspicious.

Was this part really necessary to make your point?

[buggyone]

I would challenge anyone to find a safer community of approximately 100,000 residents that is safer than The Villages. Please cite your sources or provide links.

What is the worst crime you know of personally in The Villages? Did it occur because of outsiders in The Villages or was it an issue in The Villages? When did this crime occur?

[Mr.Kris]

What is the worst crime you know of personally in The Villages? Did it occur because of outsiders in The Villages or was it an issue in The Villages? When did this crime occur?

Murder. July 2006. Diana Miller, 63 was murdered in her home in Springdale. Her 71 year old husband, James, was shot in the head, but survived. Assailants did not live in The Villages. Marion County sheriff's detectives said Renaldo McGirth, 20, and two accomplices, Jarrord Roberts, 22, and Theodore Houston, 19, tried to rob the Millers at their home in The Villages of Springdale. Villages killer is youngest inmate on Florida's death row - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-05-07/news/lmcgirth07_1_sheila-miller-james-miller-marion-county)

That's probably the worst I am aware of. Not personally, of course. So I could be wrong.

[graciegirl]

Murder. July 2006. Diana Miller, 63 was murdered in her home in Springdale. Her 71 year old husband, James, was shot in the head, but survived. Assailants did not live in The Villages. Marion County sheriff's detectives said Renaldo McGirth, 20, and two accomplices, Jarrord Roberts, 22, and Theodore Houston, 19, tried to rob the Millers at their home in The Villages of Springdale. Villages killer is youngest inmate on Florida's death row - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-05-07/news/lmcgirth07_1_sheila-miller-james-miller-marion-county)

That's probably the worst I am aware of. Not personally, of course. So I could be wrong.



Their daughter, age 40, who lived with them was involved with the killers. The daughter was heavily into drugs and a huge problem to her parents. They made the mother get on the internet to order things for them after they shot her once in the chest. Read more...it is bad.


Here is more about it.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-11-10/news/os-supreme-court-upholds-death-villag20101110_1_circuit-judge-brian-lambert-theodore-houston-jarrord-roberts

[DougB]

Two meth labs in the last year. One by young adults renting in the Villages and one by an older adult living with his mother in The Villages.

[graciegirl]

New Flash - Contrary to the Morse Family Propaganda Machine - Crime does happen in the Villages. This is fact despite the silence of the "Good News Paper,' WVLG and the lies of the sales agents who work for the developer (One actually told a friend in my presence that "crime was non-existent" in the Villages. Of course, I called her on it). With that said, the Villages is one of the safest communities anywhere in the country. However, as the Villages grows and becomes more prominent as a Florida population center, the frequency of crime will increase. As residents, we need to maintain the same level of vigilance and common sense that we had before we moved to the Villages. We can not prevent someone from kicking a door in, but we can lock our houses and cars and call law enforcement when something looks suspicious.



Boy Howdy.

[Happinow]

So, after 4 pages of posts, I saw absolutely NOTHING of this being a THIRD burglary on Adrienne Way - I claim it DID NOT HAPPEN.

Just some of the "I heard it happened" from neighbors at the pool or rec centers but NOTHING to substantiate what happened - which was NOTHING.

I am glad I do not live South of 466A!!!

I think you miss read my post. I did not say third burglary on Adrienne Way....it was the third burglary in Sanibel. I found this out by our neighbor who is a friend of there people who got burglarized. Why would I make this up?? My husband saw the police at their home as well. It did happen. Also, they will catch the person who did this and I will bet it is someone who works at this end of town, which is why the burglaries are occurring here. Just my thought.

[CFrance]

I read your post to mean three altogether in Sanibel, Happinow.

The second burglary in Sanibel--same modus operandi--happened to my friend's next-door neighbor. That one was in the paper for sure. So there were a confirmed two, and I think I remember that one happened before the one I mentioned, making three total.

[njbchbum]

happinow -
I just did a quick search of the forums and found previous threads re break-ins in sanibel [cofirming the most recent was the 3rd]:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/first-hand-account-burglary-sanibel-95842/

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/house-burglary-sanibel-95787/

I understood that you did not mean the 3rd break-in on Adrienne Way! :)

[mickey100]

I see nothing in Jimroy's post to indicate whether he has or has not contacted the police. Perhaps he has and there was nothing they could do? Does hanging around at the pool, using the restroom for long periods, meeting other people, or walking around one's neighborhood constitute a crime? I wouldn't imagine a local ordinance like loitering would even apply.

I guess the police would need to set up surveillance and catch a drug transaction in process in order to make an arrest, and what's the probable cause for that? I'm also doubtful that anyone would walk to a public restroom to shoot up when they could easily do that in their home. She's not living on the street with nowhere else to go.

Thank you, the voice of reason. The police have limited resources and are unlikely to pursue action unless they had more than just suspicions to work with.

[mickey100]

New Flash - Contrary to the Morse Family Propaganda Machine - Crime does happen in the Villages. This is fact despite the silence of the "Good News Paper,' WVLG and the lies of the sales agents who work for the developer (One actually told a friend in my presence that "crime was non-existent" in the Villages. Of course, I called her on it). With that said, the Villages is one of the safest communities anywhere in the country. However, as the Villages grows and becomes more prominent as a Florida population center, the frequency of crime will increase. As residents, we need to maintain the same level of vigilance and common sense that we had before we moved to the Villages. We can not prevent someone from kicking a door in, but we can lock our houses and cars and call law enforcement when something looks suspicious.

Good post. Yes we have become a large community and since we are not a secure gated community, anyone can easily get in. It pays to be careful. I'm sure The Villages looks like a bunch of rich people to outsiders, and tempting to thieves.

[graciegirl]

I love the Morse family. This has NOTHING to do with them. Noone ever spread any PROPAGANDA to me from them in any way about how safe this place is. Do not say mean stuff about the paper for no GOOD reason. Nobody needs anything to sell this place, it sells itself. This is MY town and I LOVE it. I live here year 'round. Ich bin ein Villager!


This is a very safe community but there are always those who want to take instead of work.


We are safer HERE than most places because we don't work. We mostly move around this area doing our stuff and keeping our SAGE eyes peeled. Not much escapes us and these guys are gonna get caught because one of us seniors is gonna see something and say something.


We are neighborhood watch on STEROIDS.


Don't MESS with old people. Girls? Hot water with vinegar. We will seek them out.


Merry Christmas y'all.

[jbdlfan]

I would challenge anyone to find a safer community of approximately 100,000 residents that is safer than The Villages. Please cite your sources or provide links.

What is the worst crime you know of personally in The Villages? Did it occur because of outsiders in The Villages or was it an issue in The Villages? When did this crime occur?

Well..... according to the following site:The Villages crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout (http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/the-villages/crime/#description)
there have been 60 violent crimes in the last year. How many of these were you aware of?
The site states that although we have an overall low crime rate, we have a violent crime rate comparable to other cities of our size. Interesting information. "Now let us turn to take a look at how The Villages does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in The Villages.

NeighborhoodScout's research shows that The Villages's violent crime rate is 1 per one thousand inhabitants, which is about average for all communities in America, across all population sizes. Violent crimes that are tracked and included in this rate are armed robbery, aggravated assault, forcible (not statutory) rape, and murder and non-negligent manslaughter. Roughly similar to the national average, our analysis shows that your chance of becoming a victim of violent crime in The Villages is one in 857."

Now, in my opinion, it will get worse. Increased population, mostly elderly, will APPEAR as easy pickings to professional criminals.

[graciegirl]

Well..... according to the following site:The Villages crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout (http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/the-villages/crime/#description)
there have been 60 violent crimes in the last year. How many of these were you aware of?
The site states that although we have an overall low crime rate, we have a violent crime rate comparable to other cities of our size. Interesting information. "Now let us turn to take a look at how The Villages does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in The Villages.

NeighborhoodScout's research shows that The Villages's violent crime rate is 1 per one thousand inhabitants, which is about average for all communities in America, across all population sizes. Violent crimes that are tracked and included in this rate are armed robbery, aggravated assault, forcible (not statutory) rape, and murder and non-negligent manslaughter. Roughly similar to the national average, our analysis shows that your chance of becoming a victim of violent crime in The Villages is one in 857."

Now, in my opinion, it will get worse. Increased population, mostly elderly, will APPEAR as easy pickings to professional criminals.



AWWW come on. There is no conspiracy to cover things up. Plus we have us here on TOTV who report all rumors etc.
Below this is from the article YOU linked.


"About The Villages crime rates
With a crime rate for both violent and property crime combined of 9 per 1,000 residents, the crime rate in The Villages is one of the lower rates in America among communities of all sizes (lower than 82% of America's communities). One's chance of becoming a victim of crime in The Villages is one in 113. Compared to communities within Florida, The Villages‘s crime rate is lower than nearly 96% of the state's cities and towns.
Additionally, NeighborhoodScout analyzed all cities and towns in America with a similar population size to The Villages, and we found that the crime rate in The Villages is one of the lowest in the nation for its size. This means The Villages is one of the safest places in America in which to live for its size, a very important finding.
The crime data that NeighborhoodScout used for this analysis are the seven offenses from the uniform crime reports, collected by the FBI from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies, and include both violent and property crimes, combined.
Now let us turn to take a look at how The Villages does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in The Villages.
NeighborhoodScout's research shows that The Villages's violent crime rate is 1 per one thousand inhabitants, which is about average for all communities in America, across all population sizes. Violent crimes that are tracked and included in this rate are armed robbery, aggravated assault, forcible (not statutory) rape, and murder and non-negligent manslaughter. Roughly similar to the national average, our analysis shows that your chance of becoming a victim of violent crime in The Villages is one in 857.
NeighborhoodScout's analysis of property crime reveals that the property crime rate in The Villages is below average to all cities and towns in the nation. This means that you are less likely to become a victim of arson, motor vehicle theft, larceny, or burglary in The Villages than in most communities in America. Your chance of becoming a victim of property crime if you live here? Just one in 130."

[jbdlfan]

I didn't say there was ANY conspiracy. I did state that the site said we have an overall lower crime rate. I did post the link.
Now.....as I asked, did you know that there were 60 violent crimes in the last year? If not, why? Just asking a legitimate question. Hey, maybe the 60 number is wrong.

[Lovey2]

I think you miss read my post. I did not say third burglary on Adrienne Way....it was the third burglary in Sanibel. I found this out by our neighbor who is a friend of there people who got burglarized. Why would I make this up?? My husband saw the police at their home as well. It did happen. Also, they will catch the person who did this and I will bet it is someone who works at this end of town, which is why the burglaries are occurring here. Just my thought.

I understood you perfectly, Happinow. I think some people actually get on here simply to be contrary in the privacy of their own homes...something they may not have the nerve to do in person. Anyway...guess we better get moving...apparently living north of 466 is the place to be...no burglaries, and your word gets to be gospel!!

[graciegirl]

...Let's not fight.


Everyone is really on the same page.


Let's get ready to enjoy a beautiful week.

[Lovey2]

[QUOTE=buggyone;799679]So, after 4 pages of posts, I saw absolutely NOTHING of this being a THIRD burglary on Adrienne Way - I claim it DID NOT HAPPEN.

Just some of the "I heard it happened" from neighbors at the pool or rec centers but NOTHING to substantiate what happened - which was NOTHING.

I am glad I do not live South of 466A!!![/QUOTE

Because our area has been burgled, because YOU can't verify something apparently you know nothing about, or just because it's something dull to say?

[Lovey2]

Let's hope the creeps get caught soon. I want to not worry about it today.


Just got my table set for the night before night before Christmas dinner.


This is called changing the subject and diffusing the tension. Sticking my head in the sand, living in the bubble, ignoring horrible things and living in the Villages. Merry Christmas.

Beautiful, Gracie...table and sentiments. I just don't like bullies!! anyway...fa-la-la!! Enjoy the last days before Christmas..and I will go back to Candy Crush...much less annoying!! :)

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[Bogie Shooter]

I didn't say there was ANY conspiracy. I did state that the site said we have an overall lower crime rate. I did post the link.
Now.....as I asked, did you know that there were 60 violent crimes in the last year? If not, why? Just asking a legitimate question. Hey, maybe the 60 number is wrong.

I think the 60 violent crimes for the Villages is incorrect.
To begin the site you linked has the population for TV at 51442.
They do a lot of mashing of numbers and guesstimating. This statement from the site. "We then research and develop mathematical algorithms to statistically estimate the incidences of both violent and property crimes for each neighborhood in America". NOTE: Estimate.
A futher review of their FAQ will yield more misconceptions of their data.

If one is truly interested in crime stats for TV, I would talk to the Sumter County Sheriff, Marion County Sheriff and Lady Lake Police.
Relying/quoting crime info from a Real Estate web site raises a lot of questions.

[buggyone]

Definitely, I feel the reported number of 60 violent crimes in The Villages per year is incorrect.

In the 4 years I have lived here, I can only recall a couple of violent crimes besides the murder in 2006 (which was before my time here). One was a woman who shot her husband during a domestic dispute (both were retired police and had guns at home), two assaults with deadly weapons (both happened a couple of Christmasses ago and guns were shown in a threatening way during a dispute over parking spaces at Lake Sumter Landing), and the report of an armed robbery of customers at Gators Dockside.

Can anyone think of others I have missed?

[jbdlfan]

One thing I learned this morning researching(teacher on break without a tee time) it is VERY difficult to get exact records for free(visited Sumter, Lake and Marion websites). Many websites use averages, but the one I cited above appears to be the most accurate and reliable. They use the most recent and relevant data. But I will say, there are more incidents than referenced above by buggy. There was a swat team tear gas episode a couple years ago that I believe was under-reported. Look, I agree that we have a lower crime rate than most places, but I hope some of the latest incidents serve as a wake-up call to the possibilities. As we grow, there will be more issues and the more desperate individuals around us will be making their rounds more often.

[RedChariot]

There is a heroin addict living right near that home. She frequents the
Sanibel pool to shoot up in the bathroom. She also hooks up many of her
purchases in the parking area there or on her street. ( we have told her not
to use the bathroom anymore as she ties it up for 30 minutes at a time )
I think this may be why the breakins are localized.............

Is anyone else disturbed by this? This is not what i expected when buying into TV. Please don't go on about it happens everywhere. We all did not come to a retirement community to have drug dealers and addicts at the pool and post office area. I am appauled that JIMROY has done nothing about it. Maybe he has and not told us. JIMROY if you have please tell us. I feel like perhaps TV is on a downword slide. Home invasion, kicking in doors and drug addicts are not what you expected when coming here. Try not to attack me or this post. Read between the lines. This is someone who thought they found a wonderful happy place to retire and is finding maybe it's not what it ONCE was.

[graciegirl]

Is anyone else disturbed by this? This is not what i expected when buying into TV. Please don't go on about it happens everywhere. We all did not come to a retirement community to have drug dealers and addicts at the pool and post office area. I am appauled that JIMROY has done nothing about it. Maybe he has and not told us. JIMROY if you have please tell us. I feel like perhaps TV is on a downword slide. Home invasion, kicking in doors and drug addicts are not what you expected when coming here. Try not to attack me or this post. Read between the lines. This is someone who thought they found a wonderful happy place to retire and is finding maybe it's not what it ONCE was.



DO NOT believe every thing posted on here. Read awhile and absorb attitudes and information...or lack of it.. OR go BACK and read some more of what the poster has posted before.

[e-flyer]

I still haven't seen anything in the newspaper or online news site about this latest break-in. Has anyone else?

[Peachie]

I still haven't seen anything in the newspaper or online news site about this latest break-in. Has anyone else?

Nah.

Redchariot, don't be so alarmed. Home prices have skyrocketed here and if you find that you're uncomfortable with the safety level, moving vans are always available. Lest you think I'm telling you to go home, I am not. I hope you enjoy everyday in The Villages and do not have too much angst about crime levels within our community.

Some of these reports are unverified and there are other ghastly things, supposedly, that occurred but apparently aren't serious enough for the observers to have the situation checked out. It's hard to lend credence to those reports given the lack of action taken by the observers. Are there drugs in The Villages? I'm sure there are, we even had discussions on this forum whereby potheads felt marijuana should be legalized and some indicated they were enjoying it now. There are drugs problems everywhere, no hiding from that.

I think one would have to lock oneself in a room 24/7 to avoid the world happenings. You could run to a gated community but those may be the most vulnerable as they think nothing can happen within their walls and may be unprepared, access can be gained at any time. Smell the flowers and enjoy the day. If crime reports increase and you do not feel comfortable in The Villages, that is the time to consider your next move. Please don't waste your precious life hours worrying about things that most likely will never happen.

[buggyone]

One thing I learned this morning researching(teacher on break without a tee time) it is VERY difficult to get exact records for free(visited Sumter, Lake and Marion websites). Many websites use averages, but the one I cited above appears to be the most accurate and reliable. They use the most recent and relevant data. But I will say, there are more incidents than referenced above by buggy. There was a swat team tear gas episode a couple years ago that I believe was under-reported. Look, I agree that we have a lower crime rate than most places, but I hope some of the latest incidents serve as a wake-up call to the possibilities. As we grow, there will be more issues and the more desperate individuals around us will be making their rounds more often.

The SWAT tear gas incident was the wife shooting the husband domestic incident - both were retired police officers. It was very late 2009.

Please cite all the violent crimes you can recall in The Villages. I honestly cannot recall other than the few I mentioned.

[jbdlfan]

The SWAT tear gas incident was the wife shooting the husband domestic incident - both were retired police officers. It was very late 2009.

Please cite all the violent crimes you can recall in The Villages. I honestly cannot recall other than the few I mentioned.

Nope, sorry but that is a different incident. The occasion I am mentioning is a 59 year old man off his meds allegedly attacked an 80 year old woman. When SSD went to arrest him, he barricaded himself in his home. Several weapons were removed also. Happened a couple of years ago.
As I said before, still a safe place to live but this stuff does happen.

[TexaninVA]

One thing I learned this morning researching(teacher on break without a tee time) it is VERY difficult to get exact records for free(visited Sumter, Lake and Marion websites). Many websites use averages, but the one I cited above appears to be the most accurate and reliable. They use the most recent and relevant data. But I will say, there are more incidents than referenced above by buggy. There was a swat team tear gas episode a couple years ago that I believe was under-reported. Look, I agree that we have a lower crime rate than most places, but I hope some of the latest incidents serve as a wake-up call to the possibilities. As we grow, there will be more issues and the more desperate individuals around us will be making their rounds more often.


Regarding access to investigative reports compiled by the Sumter county
Sheriff office .. Does anyone know what the law actually says in terms of
public access to those records? Are citizens or taxpayers etc
legally entitled to copies of crime reports upon request ?

[KEVIN & JOSIE]

Great sight to check crime in any area nationwide. Go to advance setting, and change to 30 days and all crime. Pretty accurate.
https://www.crimereports.com/

[Mr.Kris]

You could run to a gated community but those may be the most vulnerable as they think nothing can happen within their walls and may be unprepared, access can be gained at any time.

Prepared? Concealed carry? Stand your ground?

For the prepared Villager I recommend the "E-Z-GO Gun Holder with Removable Floor Mount" How to Install an E-Z-GO Gun Holder with Removable Floor Mount - YouTube

For the intermediate to long shot I would go with the Ruger Mini 30 stainless. At 7.62x39 it packs more of a punch than the Mini 14/.223 cartridge. And the stainless is best for the Florida weather and open exposure that comes with a golf cart.

For close in I'm still a Ruger guy. I'd go with an SP 101 357 with a 2 1/2 barrel. Personally I'd go with an ankle holster rather than sticking it in my waist band. If I'm going to shoot something off I'd rather it be a toe. I have 9 of them left.

I tried mounting a 50 cal to my cart (think "Rat Patrol") but every time I shot a round the cart flipped on its side. I fired off a "burst" once and did cartwheels down Moorse Blvd. But I felt prepared for anything.

[Peachie]

Prepared? Concealed carry? Stand your ground?

For the prepared Villager I recommend the "E-Z-GO Gun Holder with Removable Floor Mount" How to Install an E-Z-GO Gun Holder with Removable Floor Mount - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zK5rcFehbI)

For the intermediate to long shot I would go with the Ruger Mini 30 stainless. At 7.62x39 it packs more of a punch than the Mini 14/.223 cartridge. And the stainless is best for the Florida weather and open exposure that comes with a golf cart.

For close in I'm still a Ruger guy. I'd go with an SP 101 357 with a 2 1/2 barrel. Personally I'd go with an ankle holster rather than sticking it in my waist band. If I'm going to shoot something off I'd rather it be a toe. I have 9 of them left.

I tried mounting a 50 cal to my cart (think "Rat Patrol") but every time I shot a round the cart flipped on its side. I fired off a "burst" once and did cartwheels down Moorse Blvd. But I felt prepared for anything.

Some people are prepared to shoot other people at a moments notice, some people aren't prepared or equipped mentally to do that. :shrug:

[DougB]

Yippie Kay yay mother ...

[Mr.Kris]

Some people are prepared to shoot other people at a moments notice, some people aren't prepared or equipped mentally to do that. :shrug:

And some are devoid of humor.:1rotfl:

[JBarracks]

Prepared? Concealed carry? Stand your ground?

For the prepared Villager I recommend the "E-Z-GO Gun Holder with Removable Floor Mount" How to Install an E-Z-GO Gun Holder with Removable Floor Mount - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zK5rcFehbI)

For the intermediate to long shot I would go with the Ruger Mini 30 stainless. At 7.62x39 it packs more of a punch than the Mini 14/.223 cartridge. And the stainless is best for the Florida weather and open exposure that comes with a golf cart.

For close in I'm still a Ruger guy. I'd go with an SP 101 357 with a 2 1/2 barrel. Personally I'd go with an ankle holster rather than sticking it in my waist band. If I'm going to shoot something off I'd rather it be a toe. I have 9 of them left.

I tried mounting a 50 cal to my cart (think "Rat Patrol") but every time I shot a round the cart flipped on its side. I fired off a "burst" once and did cartwheels down Moorse Blvd. But I felt prepared for anything.

You too funny...

[Jayhawk]

DO NOT believe every thing posted on here. Read awhile and absorb attitudes and information...or lack of it.. OR go BACK and read some more of what the poster has posted before.

Best. Advice. Ever !!

:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

[Bogie Shooter]

Is anyone else disturbed by this? This is not what i expected when buying into TV. Please don't go on about it happens everywhere. We all did not come to a retirement community to have drug dealers and addicts at the pool and post office area. I am appauled that JIMROY has done nothing about it. Maybe he has and not told us. JIMROY if you have please tell us. I feel like perhaps TV is on a downword slide. Home invasion, kicking in doors and drug addicts are not what you expected when coming here. Try not to attack me or this post. Read between the lines. This is someone who thought they found a wonderful happy place to retire and is finding maybe it's not what it ONCE was.

I think one would be very naive to think there was no crime of any kind............anywhere you might reside.

The Villages is not on a downword slide and to say this is just wrong. I don't know how to read between the lines, could you explain?

Your are right about on thing. Those who think they are seeing drug dealing are doing themselves and all their neighbors a dis-service by not reporting to the Sheriff.

[Peachie]

And some are devoid of humor.:1rotfl:

Yeah, that happened to me once before on this forum; someone advised people to wear a bullet proof vest to a contentious local meeting and I thought suggesting shooting people at a public meeting was disgusting and I missed that humor too. Guess I don't get all giggly at the thought of gun violence, ah well.... somethings I just don't want to get over. :eek:

[RedChariot]

I think one would be very naive to think there was no crime of any kind............anywhere you might reside.

The Villages is not on a downword slide and to say this is just wrong. I don't know how to read between the lines, could you explain?

Your are right about on thing. Those who think they are seeing drug dealing are doing themselves and all their neighbors a dis-service by not reporting to the Sheriff.

You do know what read between the lines means. Getting the essence of what the person is feeling. Not always taking every word and tearing it apart. I am disappointed that there is/are addicts and drug dealers in a retirement village. Did not see that coming for sure. Retirement village! Even in NJ they would find that hard to believe.

[John_W]

My parents retired in 1984 in Spring Hill, Florida in a community called Timber Pines. It's located on US Hwy 19 north of St. Petersburg near Weeki Wachee Springs where they have the mermaid shows. The community was started in 1983 was built out around year 1998. They have 1200 acres with 3 golf courses and about 2000 homes. The home styles are much like TV's and residents drive their golf cart on the streets.

Timber Pines is completely surrounded by a 8' masonry wall and has only two entrances with are both gated with 24 hour security. Unless you leave a visitor notification at the gate, your guests cannot enter. I lived in Spring Hill for about a year in 1989 and I can remember in just that year alone Timber Pines had at least a dozen home burglaries. So even with all their security they weren't able to prevent them.

[DougB]

You do know what read between the lines means. Getting the essence of what the person is feeling. Not always taking every word and tearing it apart. I am disappointed that there is/are addicts and drug dealers in a retirement village. Did not see that coming for sure. Retirement village! Even in NJ they would find that hard to believe.

Find it very hard to believe a Villager, if an addict, would shoot up in the pool restroom instead of their own home. One person makes an assumption and now it is a fact?

[Bogie Shooter]

You do know what read between the lines means. Getting the essence of what the person is feeling. Not always taking every word and tearing it apart. I am disappointed that there is/are addicts and drug dealers in a retirement village. Did not see that coming for sure. Retirement village! Even in NJ they would find that hard to believe.

Sorry you are disapointed. I would stop worrying now........................

[DougB]

You do know what read between the lines means. Getting the essence of what the person is feeling. Not always taking every word and tearing it apart. I am disappointed that there is/are addicts and drug dealers in a retirement village. Did not see that coming for sure. Retirement village! Even in NJ they would find that hard to believe.


wor·ry·wart noun \ˈwər-ē-ˌwȯrt, ˈwə-rē-\
: a person who worries too much or who worries about things that are not important

Full Definition of WORRYWART

:* a person who is inclined to worry unduly
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Examples of WORRYWART

My father is a real worrywart.
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First Known Use of WORRYWART

1936

[graciegirl]

You do know what read between the lines means. Getting the essence of what the person is feeling. Not always taking every word and tearing it apart. I am disappointed that there is/are addicts and drug dealers in a retirement village. Did not see that coming for sure. Retirement village! Even in NJ they would find that hard to believe.



I still don't think that fact has been established for sure about The Villages...( As in Heroin.) There are a lot of people here addicted to alcohol, just like anywhere else. I know of the meth lab that two young people had in a persons attic who was probably very gullible.


People make a lot of statements here and get all excited and most of the time it is just talk.


Most of us are retired and a good share are smart and aware of what is happening. We are watching out for each other.


But people are still people here and the sins and foibles that most people face in their lives continue well into retirement. But I think we are a pretty decent group of good people.

[Lovey2]

I'm re reading this thread and there are specific comments I read before that are now gone. Does this happen often on here?

[mickey100]

It happens when people post things that are mean spirited, derogatory or directly demeaning to another person. If you find a post that is objectionable you can click the red triangle in the upper right-hand corner of the post and send a message to the moderator. They will review and possibly delete the post.

[mickey100]

Or sometimes people post things then remove the post themselves for various reasons.

[Mr.Kris]

Yeah, that happened to me once before on this forum; someone advised people to wear a bullet proof vest to a contentious local meeting and I thought suggesting shooting people at a public meeting was disgusting and I missed that humor too. Guess I don't get all giggly at the thought of gun violence, ah well.... somethings I just don't want to get over. :eek:

Gun violence. Not at all.

It was just a satirical juxtaposition to your comment on people in other (gated) communities not being prepared, as follows.

"You could run to a gated community but those may be the most vulnerable as they think nothing can happen within their walls and may be unprepared, access can be gained at any time."

[Peachie]

Gun violence. Not at all.

It was just a satirical juxtaposition to your comment on people in other (gated) communities not being prepared, as follows.

"You could run to a gated community but those may be the most vulnerable as they think nothing can happen within their walls and may be unprepared, access can be gained at any time."

Earlier, you indicated the gun post was supposed to be humor so I wasn't prepared to consider the post as just plain ole satirical juxtaposition. Sigh.... :rolleyes:

[kittygilchrist]

[QUOTE=JB in TV;799176]So, just for converstion sake, you are saying any home without bags has no one home? We don't generate enough trash to put ours out twice a week. Just saying... :)[/QUO
it's a big clue, isn't it, no garbage, no paper, no lights...

[kittygilchrist]

Why doesn't Sanibel have a posse by now?

[ccalvertr]

I still haven't seen anything in the newspaper or online news site about this latest break-in. Has anyone else?

It was in the leesburg paper,Also did not see anything about the Robbery
at world of beer Saturday night in the Village newspaper.:sing:

[CFrance]

It was in the leesburg paper,Also did not see anything about the Robbery
at world of beer Saturday night in the Village newspaper.:sing:

That's a bomb to drop. We were just there for lunch today. Do you have any details?

[buggyone]

I checked on some internet sites but did not see anything about a robbery at World of Beer at Brownwood. How about some details?

[ccalvertr]

That's a bomb to drop. We were just there for lunch today. Do you have any details?

My village realtor told me about it when she called me in Virginia yesterday.

[Bogie Shooter]

My village realtor told me about it when she called me in Virginia yesterday.

Guess that makes it true....................................

[buggyone]

My village realtor told me about it when she called me in Virginia yesterday.

Maybe she got it confused with the supposed robbery of a couple of customers on Dec. 1 at Gator's Dockside at Spanish Springs. You know, the one where the perp doesn't have any ears.

[angiefox10]

When I posted on another thread about the robberies in "The Villages" I wasn't just talking about Sanibel! Another poster said I didn't read all the threads so I didn't understand that this was a concern... That poster was right. I don't have time to read all the threads. That would mean sitting on my computer all day reading TOTV.... And I don't have time for that.

Let me be clear. There are robberies in The Villages that aren't being reported by the news. Not just in Sanibel but in The Villages! Not just breaking into homes but weapons as well...

I don't know if The Villages is a "safe" place to live or not. But I know the fact that these robberies are not being reported in the news is giving people a sense of security that maybe they shouldn't have.

One of the residents sent out an email about an incident that happened... Something we knew about because it happened to someone in our hood. They received a notice from The Villages that maybe it isn't a good idea to send that kind of email out.... It scares the residents.

My husband has has to go to court because he was slugged trying to protect an older female resident of The Villages. He said that if you sat in court you would be VERY concerned about the robberies and aggravated sexual assaults, in The Villages some with weapons!

Happienow tried to come on here and tell you about another one. Many of you wanted to make her out to be a liar. Thanks... Thanks a lot! Because the next time it happens... Do you think she will want to come on here and post it???

She was trying to warn you.... and I for one thank her!

[Bogie Shooter]

When I posted on another thread about the robberies in "The Villages" I wasn't just talking about Sanibel! Another poster said I didn't read all the threads so I didn't understand that this was a concern... That poster was right. I don't have time to read all the threads. That would mean sitting on my computer all day reading TOTV.... And I don't have time for that.

Let me be clear. There are robberies in The Villages that aren't being reported by the news. Not just in Sanibel but in The Villages! Not just breaking into homes but weapons as well...

I don't know if The Villages is a "safe" place to live or not. But I know the fact that these robberies are not being reported in the news is giving people a sense of security that maybe they shouldn't have.

One of the residents sent out an email about an incident that happened... Something we knew about because it happened to someone in our hood. They received a notice from The Villages that maybe it isn't a good idea to send that kind of email out.... It scares the residents.

My husband has has to go to court because he was slugged trying to protect an older female resident of The Villages. He said that if you sat in court you would be VERY concerned about the robberies and aggravated sexual assaults, in The Villages some with weapons!

Happienow tried to come on here and tell you about another one. Many of you wanted to make her out to be a liar. Thanks... Thanks a lot! Because the next time it happens... Do you think she will want to come on here and post it???

She was trying to warn you.... and I for one thank her!

Sorry, I for one don't believe this.

[keithwand]

When I posted on another thread about the robberies in "The Villages" I wasn't just talking about Sanibel! Another poster said I didn't read all the threads so I didn't understand that this was a concern... That poster was right. I don't have time to read all the threads. That would mean sitting on my computer all day reading TOTV.... And I don't have time for that.

Let me be clear. There are robberies in The Villages that aren't being reported by the news. Not just in Sanibel but in The Villages! Not just breaking into homes but weapons as well...

I don't know if The Villages is a "safe" place to live or not. But I know the fact that these robberies are not being reported in the news is giving people a sense of security that maybe they shouldn't have.

One of the residents sent out an email about an incident that happened... Something we knew about because it happened to someone in our hood. They received a notice from The Villages that maybe it isn't a good idea to send that kind of email out.... It scares the residents.

My husband has has to go to court because he was slugged trying to protect an older female resident of The Villages. He said that if you sat in court you would be VERY concerned about the robberies and aggravated sexual assaults, in The Villages some with weapons!

Happienow tried to come on here and tell you about another one. Many of you wanted to make her out to be a liar. Thanks... Thanks a lot! Because the next time it happens... Do you think she will want to come on here and post it???

She was trying to warn you.... and I for one thank her!

Did your husband get slugged outside of Athens at the Cruise In last Saturday. Something happened and a woman was sprawled out on the ground.

[angiefox10]

Sorry, I for one don't believe this.

Don't care if you do or don't!

Did your husband get slugged outside of Athens at the Cruise In last Saturday. Something happened and a woman was sprawled out on the ground.

No... Slugged at the gas station six months ago... An older lady was being verbally accosted and physically threatened by a lawn service owner at the station.

[gerryann]

AGGRAVATED SEXUAL assaults.......WITH WEAPONS??????? Yikes!!!! If that is going on here, I for one want to know. So, if this is true and any of you have info regarding this...please post. I'd move out.....fast!!!!! I never had assaults with weapons in my neighborhood back home and I don't want to live anywhere that it goes on...especially if it doesn't get reported for whatever reason.

[perrjojo]

I am certain many incidents occur in TV are not reported. I know of some in our neighborhood that have not been reported. However, there are incidents in EVERY neighborhood in America that go unreported.

[graciegirl]

When I posted on another thread about the robberies in "The Villages" I wasn't just talking about Sanibel! Another poster said I didn't read all the threads so I didn't understand that this was a concern... That poster was right. I don't have time to read all the threads. That would mean sitting on my computer all day reading TOTV.... And I don't have time for that.

Let me be clear. There are robberies in The Villages that aren't being reported by the news. Not just in Sanibel but in The Villages! Not just breaking into homes but weapons as well...

I don't know if The Villages is a "safe" place to live or not. But I know the fact that these robberies are not being reported in the news is giving people a sense of security that maybe they shouldn't have.

One of the residents sent out an email about an incident that happened... Something we knew about because it happened to someone in our hood. They received a notice from The Villages that maybe it isn't a good idea to send that kind of email out.... It scares the residents.

My husband has has to go to court because he was slugged trying to protect an older female resident of The Villages. He said that if you sat in court you would be VERY concerned about the robberies and aggravated sexual assaults, in The Villages some with weapons!

Happienow tried to come on here and tell you about another one. Many of you wanted to make her out to be a liar. Thanks... Thanks a lot! Because the next time it happens... Do you think she will want to come on here and post it???


She was trying to warn you.... and I for one thank her!


FROM WHO, in what agency, what part of the official villages sent an email saying exactly WHAT? ??????? That is VERY hard to believe. There have been so many over the top emails I have seen circulating but I haven't ever heard of anyone getting any kind of response from The Villages.


Happinow was very clear in her post about the first breakin and the second and people were confused if she was talking about a recent third breakin in Sanibel. I don't know that anyone has cleared that up yet. I have heard of two, and the armed robbery at Codys, but not a third in Sanibel. Do you know of a third Angie? I asked Meta Minton a couple of days ago and she hadn't heard of another one.


Why would both The Sun that is NOT owned by the developer and Meta Minton's online news be not printing these things IF they were happening?


Just trying to quell rumors.

[angiefox10]

AGGRAVATED SEXUAL assaults.......WITH WEAPONS??????? Yikes!!!! If that is going on here, I for one want to know. So, if this is true and any of you have info regarding this...please post. I'd move out.....fast!!!!! I never had assaults with weapons in my neighborhood back home and I don't want to live anywhere that it goes on...especially if it doesn't get reported for whatever reason.

You don't have to believe me... If you want to know... go to the Sumter County court house and sit for awhile....

People are trying to post on here and tell you about it, and are getting shut down. They "don't want to hear it".

If people know and and are keeping watchful eye...it will stop.

It took days for the robbery at Spanish Springs to show up in the paper I'm not sure why ... or why it even showed up when it did.

My husband was slugged at the gas station in The Villages... There was a report made.. There were witnesses to the incident and yet... no one heard about it in The Villages. The guy who hit him had been convicted of 13 felonies before that... Don't you think something like that would have been reported???

Someone came on here trying to tell people about the problems at the squares and it just gets shut down... We have been told by friends who work for The Villages it's true! For crying out loud.. You think all these people are lying???

[graciegirl]

You don't have to believe me... If you want to know... go to the Sumter County court house and sit for awhile....

People are trying to post on here and tell you about it, and are getting shut down. They "don't want to hear it".

If people know and and are keeping watchful eye...it will stop.

It took days for the robbery at Spanish Springs to show up in the paper I'm not sure why ... or why it even showed up when it did.

My husband was slugged at the gas station in The Villages... There was a report made.. There were witnesses to the incident and yet... no one heard about it in The Villages. The guy who hit him had been convicted of 13 felonies before that... Don't you think something like that would have been reported???

Someone came on here trying to tell people about the problems at the squares and it just gets shut down... We have been told by friends who work for The Villages it's true! For crying out loud.. You think all these people are lying???



Here is the article. It said the law enforcement held the news pending the sketch of the perp, below with no ears.

[angiefox10]

FROM WHO, in what agency, what part of the official villages sent an email saying exactly WHAT? ??????? That is VERY hard to believe. There have been so many over the top emails I have seen circulating but I haven't ever heard of anyone getting any kind of response from The Villages.


Happinow was very clear in her post about the first breakin and the second and people were confused if she was talking about a recent third breakin in Sanibel. I don't know that anyone has cleared that up yet. I have heard of two, and the armed robbery at Codys, but not a third in Sanibel. Do you know of a third Angie? I asked Meta Minton a couple of days ago and she hadn't heard of another one.


Why would both The Sun that is NOT owned by the developer and Meta Minton's online news be not printing these things IF they were happening?


Just trying to quell rumors.

We have been told there was a third by other people who are not on TOTV. By people who live in that area. Regardless of THAT one.. I posted about another one that was ignored about a TV taken from a lanai next to the Captiva parking lot.

Again.... I don't care if you believe me or not. The letter was not mine to quote or post. We all knew about the letter and my husband said he saw it. The person who got it isn't one to lie about it. But.. just for the sake of argument... (not that anyone does that here) let's just say there were "only" two in Sanibel. It still doesn't diminish the fact that there is trouble in River City!

Where I come from.... All police reports are posted in the paper. That doesn't seem to be the case here. Now... That being said, I'm not sure how many times people are calling the police or calling VCDD. I would suggest, when there is a problem, people stop calling VCDD and call the police. VCDD has no authority.

Gracie... You KNOW me and you KNOW I don't spout rumors! You can check out all my past threads... No rumors...

Everyone who thinks this is bunk... Go to the courthouse and sit for a day! My husband has been there for five so far.... He is not impressed.

Knowledge is power...

[dotti105]

...Let's not fight.


Everyone is really on the same page.


Let's get ready to enjoy a beautiful week.

Beautiful Gracie!! You seem like such a gracious hostess, and you home looks so lovely and festive!!

Happy Holidays!

[graciegirl]

Beautiful Gracie!! You seem like such a gracious hostess, and you home looks so lovely and festive!!

Happy Holidays!


Thanks Dot.


We had three couples Monday night for a pretty special meal. Two of them we have known more than forty years.


Santa has been here and the tree has lots of surprises under it and daughter one and son in law two and grandchild two will be arriving late tomorrow night. Granddaughter one is a little sad as she is now part of the work force and has to put out the news. (lack of seniority) But she has a paying job and we are looking to live off the grandkids here pretty soon.;)

[buggyone]

AGGRAVATED SEXUAL assaults.......WITH WEAPONS??????? Yikes!!!! If that is going on here, I for one want to know. So, if this is true and any of you have info regarding this...please post. I'd move out.....fast!!!!! I never had assaults with weapons in my neighborhood back home and I don't want to live anywhere that it goes on...especially if it doesn't get reported for whatever reason.

Don't worry. There are NOT aggravated sexual assaults with weapons happening in The Villages. Just some people trying to stir the soup to get their moment in the spotlight by posting nonsense.

The Villages is not 100% crime free but comes mighty close to it. Even the supposed armed robbery at Gators Dockside on Dec. 1 has never been confirmed as being an actual event.

[DougB]

Thanks Dot.


We had three couples Monday night for a pretty special meal. Two of them we have known more than forty years.


Santa has been here and the tree has lots of surprises under it and daughter one and son in law two and grandchild two will be arriving late tomorrow night. Granddaughter one is a little sad as she is now part of the work force and has to put out the news. (lack of seniority) But she has a paying job and we are looking to live off the grandkids here pretty soon.;)

Will she be putting out the news on the crime spree here in The Villages?

[Bogie Shooter]

Seems like a lot of "we heard", "I was told", "told by friends", stuff being passed along as fact.

[dotti105]

After reading this thread about various break ins (actual number undetermined, apparently) AND the thread written by the homeowner whose home was recently robbed, I have decided that a security system might be a good thing to add to our monthly expenses budgeted for our lives there.

There is no perfect, totally safe place to live..... sad but true.

We obviously think TV is a fantastic place to live or we would not have our bags packed and a closing date set.... But we can not control who comes in and out and there are people with evil intentions anywhere you go.

Opportunity exists and we have decided to face that realistically.
We will do what we need to to protect ourselves and our hard earned property.

I must say, I do wish the local paper would list the "police blotter". Informed residents can be more aware and watchful. I think that would create a positive environment for us all.

[OscarOlden]

We have been told there was a third by other people who are not on TOTV. By people who live in that area. Regardless of THAT one.. I posted about another one that was ignored about a TV taken from a lanai next to the Captiva parking lot.

Again.... I don't care if you believe me or not. The letter was not mine to quote or post. We all knew about the letter and my husband said he saw it. The person who got it isn't one to lie about it. But.. just for the sake of argument... (not that anyone does that here) let's just say there were "only" two in Sanibel. It still doesn't diminish the fact that there is trouble in River City!

Where I come from.... All police reports are posted in the paper. That doesn't seem to be the case here. Now... That being said, I'm not sure how many times people are calling the police or calling VCDD. I would suggest, when there is a problem, people stop calling VCDD and call the police. VCDD has no authority.

Gracie... You KNOW me and you KNOW I don't spout rumors! You can check out all my past threads... No rumors...

Everyone who thinks this is bunk... Go to the courthouse and sit for a day! My husband has been there for five so far.... He is not impressed.

Knowledge is power...

I live south of 466A. There have been burglaries in Sanibel, Collier, Hillsborough.
There have been two break ins at Seabreeze and Lake Miona. Car windows were smashed while women were in the rec centers around 2 in the afternoon. Ignorance is bliss at times but it's good to know what is really going on. Check police records.

[angiefox10]

Don't worry. There are NOT aggravated sexual assaults with weapons happening in The Villages. Just some people trying to stir the soup to get their moment in the spotlight by posting nonsense.

The Villages is not 100% crime free but comes mighty close to it. Even the supposed armed robbery at Gators Dockside on Dec. 1 has never been confirmed as being an actual event.

People have come on here before me and tried to post what is happening in The Villages and are met with resistance such as this. They have posted about the kids in the villages and posters come on here posting as if these are just a bunch of kids trying to have fun... Uh huh... I've seen them...

They have posted about coming out to their golf carts and kids having taken over sitting in them... They have posed about the cars being vandalized at the squares and the kids trying to break into the sales office. Each time, this is the response they get.

The Villages thought there were enough problems with stealing from the homes, they put GPS's in their appliances to catch the crooks. They now have EXTRA security at Brownwood!

I love it here.. I'm trying to get many of my friends to move here. It's beautiful! But don't think for a minute that I don't watch and get plate numbers to any vehicle that I don't think belongs here... Or stop them and ask questions.

For crying out loud... They just caught a guy stealing packages from the doors of residents! It was because people were paying attention they caught him! But as long as people believe nothing happens here... We are easy pickins.....

Enjoy The Villages... I do... I just do it with my eyes wide open. I don't shrug people off when they try to tell me that something happened. I WANT to know....

Yep.. Now I have my 15 minutes of fame. I will log off knowing... At least one person listened and will be more cognizant of their surroundings.

[gerryann]

People have come on here before me and tried to post what is happening in The Villages and are met with resistance such as this. They have posted about the kids in the villages and posters come on here posting as if these are just a bunch of kids trying to have fun... Uh huh... I've seen them...

They have posted about coming out to their golf carts and kids having taken over sitting in them... They have posed about the cars being vandalized at the squares and the kids trying to break into the sales office. Each time, this is the response they get.

The Villages thought there were enough problems with stealing from the homes, they put GPS's in their appliances to catch the crooks. They now have EXTRA security at Brownwood!

I love it here.. I'm trying to get many of my friends to move here. It's beautiful! But don't think for a minute that I don't watch and get plate numbers to any vehicle that I don't think belongs here... Or stop them and ask questions.

For crying out loud... They just caught a guy stealing packages from the doors of residents! It was because people were paying attention they caught him! But as long as people believe nothing happens here... We are easy pickins.....

Enjoy The Villages... I do... I just do it with my eyes wide open. I don't shrug people off when they try to tell me that something happened. I WANT to know....

Yep.. Now I have my 15 minutes of fame. I will log off knowing... At least one person listened and will be more cognizant of their surroundings.

It's not that we don't want to know...or are blind to what goes on. We just don't need it sensationalized or reported in a way that makes it sound like we are ridden with crime. Look around outside the villages and a good percentage of florida....it's blighted. We are a relatively small area that is surrounded by decay. If you consider the percentages, and crime statistics...TV is doing quite well as far as crime goes.......are we crime free? Of course not, but in reality, we are far,far better off than other areas in Florida...all of Florida.

[Bogie Shooter]

I live south of 466A. There have been burglaries in Sanibel, Collier, Hillsborough.
There have been two break ins at Seabreeze and Lake Miona. Car windows were smashed while women were in the rec centers around 2 in the afternoon. Ignorance is bliss at times but it's good to know what is really going on. Check police records.

How do you check the police records?

[buggyone]

People have come on here before me and tried to post what is happening in The Villages and are met with resistance such as this. They have posted about the kids in the villages and posters come on here posting as if these are just a bunch of kids trying to have fun... Uh huh... I've seen them...

They have posted about coming out to their golf carts and kids having taken over sitting in them... They have posed about the cars being vandalized at the squares and the kids trying to break into the sales office. Each time, this is the response they get.

The Villages thought there were enough problems with stealing from the homes, they put GPS's in their appliances to catch the crooks. They now have EXTRA security at Brownwood!

I love it here.. I'm trying to get many of my friends to move here. It's beautiful! But don't think for a minute that I don't watch and get plate numbers to any vehicle that I don't think belongs here... Or stop them and ask questions.

For crying out loud... They just caught a guy stealing packages from the doors of residents! It was because people were paying attention they caught him! But as long as people believe nothing happens here... We are easy pickins.....

Enjoy The Villages... I do... I just do it with my eyes wide open. I don't shrug people off when they try to tell me that something happened. I WANT to know....

Yep.. Now I have my 15 minutes of fame. I will log off knowing... At least one person listened and will be more cognizant of their surroundings.

This is not big time stuff with kids hanging out in a parking lot or sitting in a golf cart. No damage was done from what I read.

Stealing appliances from homes under construction happens.

Anyone that has packages left on their steps is asking for trouble anywhere but it is not violent crime but just petty burglary.

As I said, The Villages is not 100 percent crime free but is the safest place from violent crime (of similar size) that I know.

[jbdlfan]

This is not big time stuff with kids hanging out in a parking lot or sitting in a golf cart. No damage was done from what I read.

Stealing appliances from homes under construction happens.

Anyone that has packages left on their steps is asking for trouble anywhere but it is not violent crime but just petty burglary.

As I said, The Villages is not 100 percent crime free but is the safest place from violent crime (of similar size) that I know.

Ok, you have made this claim numerous times. Without proof of your statement, how is anyone to believe it? You, nor anyone else, has any clear concise records on crime either real or fictitious. Your claims have no more validity than those claiming to have information to the contrary.

[asianthree]

I thought the info was to keep those on their toes..thanks for upbeat update s...I don't expect tv to be perfect...but...Like to be informed.... I have a house south of 466a and have no worries

[graciegirl]

Ok, you have made this claim numerous times. Without proof of your statement, how is anyone to believe it? You, nor anyone else, has any clear concise records on crime either real or fictitious. Your claims have no more validity than those claiming to have information to the contrary.



Bullshirt.


We live here. We talk to people. We don't work. We are out interacting and communicating all day, all night, MaryANN!!!! We look out windows, drive down paths, gather in groups day after day after day after day. The sirens are generally for the people who are sick or who don't know how to drive or get in the path of a selfish know it all who doesn't give a crap.


There is NO conspiracy to keep all these horrible crimes hush hush...but a forum such as this is a petri dish for rumors. Most of which take on a life of their own.


Call the police department and ask THEM if you think a bunch of stuff is happening here and being covered up.


I say UNCLE on this kind of
"THEY aren't telling you" stuff.


Steaming here near 466.