Burglary in Fernandina

[OscarOlden]

I'm not trying to cause panic. People need to be vigilant. Our community is growing. There are problems in every community and we are not exempt from crime.

This afternoon around 1 o'clock there was a problem on Allaire Loop in the Village of Fernandina. The front door was kicked in. It was a nice home backing up to a golf course.

Of course, the Sumter Sheriff is handling the situation.

Be vigilant!!!! Keep an eye out for your neighbors.

[Matzy]

it is scaring that thief's coming at daylight. I think we all should watch out what is going on around our area.
When I visited TV in 2010 nobody was talking about burglary.

[Bucco]

I'm not trying to cause panic. People need to be vigilant. Our community is growing. There are problems in every community and we are not exempt from crime.

This afternoon around 1 o'clock there was a problem on Allure Loop in the Village of Fernandina. The front door was kicked in. It was a nice home backing up to a golf course.

Of course, the Sumter Sheriff is handling the situation.

Be vigilant!!!! Keep an eye out for your neighbors.


I am opening myself up for serious criticism here, but I respectfully request the OP give a link or some accreditation to what you post. Be very specific please.

This is becoming, from my point of view, a VERY poor and childish joke.

There are ways to validate claims of crime sprees, etc.....with the sheriffs office, and weekly (I think it is weekly) police calls are published in the Daily Sun.

If I am wrong, I am sorry, in my feeling that TOTV is become a home for some very immature people who are what I think the term is "flaming".

Again, if I am wrong, I am sorry, but if correct someone has to stop it.

[Rbgold]

I believe that Allure Loop is in the Village of Buttonwood. ALLAIRE Loop is in Fernandina. :confused:

[Peachie]

I am opening myself up for serious criticism here, but I respectfully request the OP give a link or some accreditation to what you post. Be very specific please.

This is becoming, from my point of view, a VERY poor and childish joke.

There are ways to validate claims of crime sprees, etc.....with the sheriffs office, and weekly (I think it is weekly) police calls are published in the Daily Sun.

If I am wrong, I am sorry, in my feeling that TOTV is become a home for some very immature people who are what I think the term is "flaming".

Again, if I am wrong, I am sorry, but if correct someone has to stop it.

Bucco, I feel OscarOlden is legit and this probably happened. Part of the problem is the constant crowing about snowbirds coming and going and the word may be out there that people in The Villages often travel for the holidays.

Sooner, probably rather than later, someone breaking into these homes is going to run into an armed resident. That's a frightening scenerio and the perp's simple burglary becomes something very serious. I hope the authorities can get a handle on this quick break-in and run problem.

[buggyone]

I once again have to agree with Bucco. I would like to see the cite from either a newspaper or a sheriff report instead of just someone overhearing from a friend's friend at the pool.

I believe a kicked in door could happen but I would like to see something official that would validate it as being real.

[Bucco]

Bucco, I feel OscarOlden is legit and this probably happened. Part of the problem is the constant crowing about snowbirds coming and going and the word may be out there that people in The Villages often travel for the holidays.

Sooner, probably rather than later, someone breaking into these homes is going to run into an armed resident. That's a frightening scenerio and the perp's simple burglary becomes something very serious. I hope the authorities can get a handle on this quick break-in and run problem.

If so, I apologize. I cannot imagine posting these things with no validation. It always bothers me that people feel the can just say things on here..that is childish.

I have lived here for approx 13 years, and what people have been posting is totally foreign, and I speak with many many folks in the course of a day. It just seems the "reports" are coming from "newer" members of TOTV, in some cases if you read past posts what seems to be an agenda.

Any adult who runs to TOTV to yell crime wit so little attempt at validation bothers me.

If wrong...sorry, but my gut usually sends me in the right direction

[Happinow]

Why would you think someone would post something like this if it weren't true??? I, for one, am getting tired of good people on here trying to alert others of danger and then being told in a round about way they are not credible. The OP doesn't have to prove anything because I don't believe they would post something like this without knowing that it happened. Come on, give us a break and thank the person for letting us know we need to be extra diligent about our security and safety. Just stop it already.

[angiefox10]

I know these stories to be true because I am hearing them from a reliable source who can not come forward for fear of losing their job.

That being said... I took the liberty of calling the Sumter County Sheriff's Office who confirmed the break ins to be true. He said he couldn't give me any other information because there is an investigation going on

The homes do not appear to be homes of people who are snowbirds or homes of people on vacation. But homes that people are living in at the time.

Someone posted that we watch each others homes. I looked down my street and I can't see any of the doors of my neighbors. We all have deep entryways that can't be seen from the other homes.

I know there are people here who do not believe this. I don't care. So.. It didn't happen to you.. It's happening to MY neighbors and I care that it stops. Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I called the Sheriffs office, you didn't take a minute to call! Easy fix.. Make that call!!!

This is the email I sent to my neighbors....


I don't know if people are aware of it... But there have been quit a few burglaries in The Villages.

For some reason the information isn't being passed around and this is making us easy pickins....

There have been several homes that the front door has been kicked in and the homes have been robbed in a very short period of time. I heard from a reliable source there was another one today on Allaire Loop. The information I have received is there's been break-ins in Sanibel, Collier, Hillsborough and today would be Fernandina.... The homes are homes where people are living now. Not snowbirds or people on vacation. People leave for an hour or two and when they return they have been robbed. They are taking the jewelry and money laying around. I know that one went though the front door and went out the back to a car waiting for them in the Bonifay parking lot. The one today was said to be on the golf course.

As many of you know... I am not adverse to stopping people on the street and asking your business here if you look suspicious, a car I don't recognize or parked in a place that doesn't seem right. I also have no problems calling the police on my neighbors home if I see something suspicious. (sorry Dave and Diane) It's hard to see our neighbor's front doors with the entryways, so we really have to pay attention. Keep an eye out when you leave to see if anyone is watching the houses.

Please pay more attention to what is going on around you. Get license numbers... Ask questions. And PLEASE... let that first call be to the Police! The VCDD has no authority! Put the Sumter County Police in your phone for quick access!

Please pass this information along... not to alarm... but to arm. We can deal with what we know. And.... If you hear anything or see anything... Please let the rest of us know... Knowledge is power!

Thank you,

[angiefox10]

Why would you think someone would post something like this if it weren't true??? I, for one, am getting tired of good people on here trying to alert others of danger and then being told in a round about way they are not credible. The OP doesn't have to prove anything because I don't believe they would post something like this without knowing that it happened. Come on, give us a break and thank the person for letting us know we need to be extra diligent about our security and safety. Just stop it already.

I question the credibility of the people who won't even call to verify the information... They are the same people in every thread! I knew it was true... I still made the call.... It's not in the paper and there isn't anyplace you can find it. But you can talk to a deputy... I did!

[buggyone]

"I know these stories to be true because I am hearing them from a reliable source who can not come forward for fear of losing their job." What kind of job does this reliable source hold?

You can certainly tell us the general source such as "from a Villages sales agent" or a bartender at City Fire, can't you? I would find it more believable if a paper such as The Daily Commercial or the Villages-bashing Orlando Sentinel would have something in it citing several occupied homes in The Villages have had doors kicked in during broad daylight. I am quite sure the Sentinel would have such a story.

[Bucco]

Why would you think someone would post something like this if it weren't true??? I, for one, am getting tired of good people on here trying to alert others of danger and then being told in a round about way they are not credible. The OP doesn't have to prove anything because I don't believe they would post something like this without knowing that it happened. Come on, give us a break and thank the person for letting us know we need to be extra diligent about our security and safety. Just stop it already.

Why would someone do that ? Ask those who do to get that answer. It has happened. As I said, if I am wrong, I am sorry.

I have lived here for many years, and do not subscribe to vigilante behavior OR talk. Flamers on the internet are not unusual. In the years I have been here, the sheriffs office and the paper have been pretty good at issuing warnings...once as I recall using the reverse 911.

I will not disparage The Villages, the newspapers or anyone with the very shallow info that has been posted.

[angiefox10]

"I know these stories to be true because I am hearing them from a reliable source who can not come forward for fear of losing their job." What kind of job does this reliable source hold?

You can certainly tell us the general source such as "from a Villages sales agent" or a bartender at City Fire, can't you? I would find it more believable if a paper such as The Daily Commercial or the Villages-bashing Orlando Sentinel would have something in it citing several occupied homes in The Villages have had doors kicked in during broad daylight. I am quite sure the Sentinel would have such a story.


I will give you a reliable source... The Sheriffs office! That's about as reliable as I can give you! I told you... I called the Sumter County Sheriffs office!

From what I can see.... There are a couple of trolls on here. The people stirring the pot are not the people trying to let people know what is going on.

Believe it... Don't believe it. I will leave it to everyone else to decide. I don't know.... But I'm just thinking that you don't speak for everyone. *smile*

[KeepingItReal]

I knew it was true... I still made the call.... It's not in the paper and there isn't anyplace you can find it. But you can talk to a deputy... I did!

Thanks very much...thought it was true but good to know for sure. May be tough to stop unless everyone gets on board..

[CarGuys]

It was on Allaire Loop Village of Fernandina, Yes it sounds like Allure Loop which is in not in the area.

1: Sumter Sheriff called Community Watch Dispatch to inform them of the situation.

2: Community Watch South Supervisor was dispatched by Community Watch to meet the Sumter Sheriff on scene.

3: Suspect is a young White male. Black Pants, Black Backpack, Black Bandana

4: Sheriff Dogs were tracking.

5: Situition is still under investigation.


Some Advise-

People in that area should keep garage doors down.

All Home doors locked.

Do not advertise that you are leaving, always make it appear someone is home.

Neighbors watch out for each other. Please report all suspicious individual(s) and call 911 immediately.

Most home intrusions occur between 12-4 ( yes there has been more than one in the last few months.)

There is no hype on this post just facts. It did occur.

All records of events are open for the public to view at community watch.

Many times police events are given to the HOA for posting at a later event by the Sheriff.

The crime rate is under .8% in The Villages. Let us respect the poor victims who were part of that .8 %.

To them it is very real, it did happen.

[Peachie]

I know these stories to be true because I am hearing them from a reliable source who can not come forward for fear of losing their job.

That being said... I took the liberty of calling the Sumter County Sheriff's Office who confirmed the break ins to be true. He said he couldn't give me any other information because there is an investigation going on

The homes do not appear to be homes of people who are snowbirds or homes of people on vacation. But homes that people are living in at the time.

Someone posted that we watch each others homes. I looked down my street and I can't see any of the doors of my neighbors. We all have deep entryways that can't be seen from the other homes.

I know there are people here who do not believe this. I don't care. So.. It didn't happen to you.. It's happening to MY neighbors and I care that it stops. Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I called the Sheriffs office, you didn't take a minute to call! Easy fix.. Make that call!!!

This is the email I sent to my neighbors....


I don't know if people are aware of it... But there have been quit a few burglaries in The Villages.

For some reason the information isn't being passed around and this is making us easy pickins....

There have been several homes that the front door has been kicked in and the homes have been robbed in a very short period of time. I heard from a reliable source there was another one today on Allaire Loop. The information I have received is there's been break-ins in Sanibel, Collier, Hillsborough and today would be Fernandina.... The homes are homes where people are living now. Not snowbirds or people on vacation. People leave for an hour or two and when they return they have been robbed. They are taking the jewelry and money laying around. I know that one went though the front door and went out the back to a car waiting for them in the Bonifay parking lot. The one today was said to be on the golf course.

As many of you know... I am not adverse to stopping people on the street and asking your business here if you look suspicious, a car I don't recognize or parked in a place that doesn't seem right. I also have no problems calling the police on my neighbors home if I see something suspicious. (sorry Dave and Diane) It's hard to see our neighbor's front doors with the entryways, so we really have to pay attention. Keep an eye out when you leave to see if anyone is watching the houses.

Please pay more attention to what is going on around you. Get license numbers... Ask questions. And PLEASE... let that first call be to the Police! The VCDD has no authority! Put the Sumter County Police in your phone for quick access!

Please pass this information along... not to alarm... but to arm. We can deal with what we know. And.... If you hear anything or see anything... Please let the rest of us know... Knowledge is power!

Thank you,





Angie, it's good to know you have the first hand information. Would you please share with us the exact number of break-ins and also the name of the deputy with whom you spoke?

Perhaps this information would allow us to contact local elected officials with the number of incidences and ask for an update as to how the authorities are proceeding.

[angiefox10]

It was on Allaire Loop Village of Fernandina, Yes it sounds like Allure Loop which is in not in the area.

1: Sumter Sheriff called Community Watch Dispatch to inform them of the situation.

2: Community Watch South Supervisor was dispatched by Community Watch to meet the Sumter Sheriff on scene.

3: Suspect is a young White male. Black Pants, Black Backpack, Black Bandana

4: Sheriff Dogs were tracking.

5: Situition is still under investigation.


Some Advise-

People in that area should keep garage doors down.

All Home doors locked.

Do not advertise that you are leaving, always make it appear someone is home.

Neighbors watch out for each other. Please report all suspicious individual(s) and call 911 immediately.

Most home intrusions occur between 12-4 ( yes there has been more than one in the last few months.)

There is no hype on this post just facts. It did occur.

All records of events are open for the public to view at community watch.

Many times police events are given to the HOA for posting at a later event by the Sheriff.

The crime rate is under .8% in The Villages. Let us respect the poor victims who were part of that .8 %.

To them it is very real, it did happen.


Thank you!!!!

To the person who asked all the questions. I don't know the exact number of break ins in This area... I know of five now since I've moved in. There could be more. I've heard of others and have no reason to believe they aren't true. Good source.

I told you what my husband told me he saw in court.

I didn't write down the name of the deputy I spoke to. I only cared to verify.

That is all..... I out!

Again... Carguys... Thank you!!!!

[OscarOlden]

It was on Allaire Loop Village of Fernandina, Yes it sounds like Allure Loop which is in not in the area.

1: Sumter Sheriff called Community Watch Dispatch to inform them of the situation.

2: Community Watch South Supervisor was dispatched by Community Watch to meet the Sumter Sheriff on scene.

3: Suspect is a young White male. Black Pants, Black Backpack, Black Bandana

4: Sheriff Dogs were tracking.

5: Situition is still under investigation.


Some Advise-

People in that area should keep garage doors down.

All Home doors locked.

Do not advertise that you are leaving, always make it appear someone is home.

Neighbors watch out for each other. Please report all suspicious individual(s) and call 911 immediately.

Most home intrusions occur between 12-4 ( yes there has been more than one in the last few months.)

There is no hype on this post just facts. It did occur.

All records of events are open for the public to view at community watch.

Many times police events are given to the HOA for posting at a later event by the Sheriff.

The crime rate is under .8% in The Villages. Let us respect the poor victims who were part of that .8 %.

To them it is very real, it did happen.

Thank you CarGuys. We all need to heed your advice.

[shalomuall]

My neighbor and I were outside around the corner and were concerned with all the sherrifs cars and unmarked car that were going up and down our street. Now we know. oy

[graciegirl]

I question the credibility of the people who won't even call to verify the information... They are the same people in every thread! I knew it was true... I still made the call.... It's not in the paper and there isn't anyplace you can find it. But you can talk to a deputy... I did!






I kNOW and trust CARGUY.


Happinow, we KNOW YOU and trust you but so many people are totally anonymous on here and they can or cannot be truthful. A little skepticism is a good thing.


It would be gullible to swallow stuff from someone who we have little or no history reading on this forum or from someone who has always enjoyed stirring things up.

[shcisamax]

Holidays are always a time when burglars take advantage of people going out to other's homes or traveling. Being extra careful and extra vigilant in the next few weeks is probably a good idea. Probably a better idea is to make it a habit. Lightbulb moment: This is when it actually pays off to have a barking dog. :)
In all seriousness, we are smaller village communities and we should be able to recognize people that are out of place. If you see something that seems off, it probably is.

[Peachie]

Angie, Carguy provided the info I wanted. (I had a phone call from the time I started my post, I should have checked before I hit the submit button.)

[buggyone]

Holidays are always a time when burglars take advantage of people going out to other's homes or traveling. Being extra careful and extra vigilant in the next few weeks is probably a good idea. Probably a better idea is to make it a habit. Lightbulb moment: This is when it actually pays off to have a barking dog. :)
In all seriousness, we are smaller village communities and we should be able to recognize people that are out of place. If you see something that seems off, it probably is.


"Be able to recognize people that are out of place"?

To some extent, that is true. If I would see a car cruising back and forth slowly on the street several times, I would get suspicious. If I saw a young person walking down the street, no problem. Common sense applies to all situations.

If you are worried about a break-in, get a home alarm system. If a 110db siren goes off when the door is kicked in, the burglar is not going to stay around and take something. Most are around $45 per month for monitoring.

I bet someone will post here that it is just as effective to get the yard sign saying you have an alarm. Don't be cheap if you are seriously worried!

[Happinow]

Maybe when you leave your home take a look down the streets. If you see a car parked in the street, as you drive by look to see if anyone is in it. Check to see if maybe someone is crouched down on the seat. If so, take down the license plate. If there's someone in a car parked on the street then be a bit suspicious. Maybe don't leave home right then? It can never hurt to be cautious, and the plate number may help police solve these crimes. We may have to go above and beyond until someone is caught. As I see it the perps are staking out the homes. They would have to be close enough to your house to see you leave. I don't know. Just trying to come up with ideas to catch these creeps!

[redwitch]

Sadly, I remember when a few homes were broken into around Stillwater and Canal a few years ago. The reports of these incidents were also disbelieved on here. It took a regular poster's home being burglarized before many here believed it had occurred. It also caused a few good folks to leave TOTV and never return. Worse, they told their friends how unwelcomed they had been and how they had been called liars because they tried to warn people here that homes were being burglarized.

It seems that even TOTV history repeats itself. It didn't happen to you; it wasn't reported in the newspaper; and so on and so forth so, of course, it didn't really happen and the person reporting it is a troll. Maybe rather than insisting that the folks reporting issues like this prove it happened, those who doubt could pick up their phones and call the appropriate county sheriff to see if a break-in or two had in fact occurred and then report what was said by the deputy. That way, we'd definitely know if it was a troll or someone trying to be helpful and warning us this is occurring.

[bdabob]

Here is an email sent to neighbors from the owners who were robbed in Fernandina yesterday. Why do we have so many "doubting Susan's"???


Thought everyone should know, our house was robbed while we at the grocery store. Only gone about an hour. Took cash and jewelry but search all drawers and closets. Even took tools from garage and broke open a small safe with just important documents inside.
Got in by prying open slider on back of house. Police came and got a lot of finger prints off door and safe. Hope they catch the sob.
We're ok but feel violated.
Tell all neighbors to be on the lookout for strangers in the area.

[graciegirl]

Here is an email sent to neighbors from the owners who were robbed in Fernandina yesterday. Why do we have so many "doubting Susan's"???


Thought everyone should know, our house was robbed while we at the grocery store. Only gone about an hour. Took cash and jewelry but search all drawers and closets. Even took tools from garage and broke open a small safe with just important documents inside.
Got in by prying open slider on back of house. Police came and got a lot of finger prints off door and safe. Hope they catch the sob.
We're ok but feel violated.
Tell all neighbors to be on the lookout for strangers in the area.



Thank you for this real information. It wasn't a kick in front door but it was a middle of the day crime. Friends who live in a gated community in Sarasota had a similar thing happen there, a series of burglaries in broad daylight when people weren't home... and it was found to be landscapers/yard maintenance people who would watch when people would leave together.


Seems like neighbors could help with who was there at the time of the other burglaries. That is probably being done and I feel these low lifes will be caught. Another thing...a lot of security cameras being used even in residential areas will help solve this too. I HOPE.


In answer to WHY do we have so many "Doubting Susan's" is to believe everything posted on a public forum would be naïve, particularly because some people do not know the facts or present them accurately. I have read this forum for a long time and rumors and half truths are the order of the day.. Some posters are always, always dependable but many other's don't jump, they LEAP to conclusions and present gossip as fact.


Skepticism is healthy. It would be silly to trust information that has no reasonable or credible back up.


The reasons WHY posters would lie are many. NOT everyone can live here and many feel left out and bitter.

[AriaGrandparents2013]

Great post Angie...........

[Lovey2]

Why would you think someone would post something like this if it weren't true??? I, for one, am getting tired of good people on here trying to alert others of danger and then being told in a round about way they are not credible. The OP doesn't have to prove anything because I don't believe they would post something like this without knowing that it happened. Come on, give us a break and thank the person for letting us know we need to be extra diligent about our security and safety. Just stop it already.

I'm with you. Too much dissension on here, just for the sake of it. As The Villages grow, so does the opportunities for the "bad guys". I am guessing it is the "NEW" areas, and being posted by the "NEW" people, because we still have a lot of construction going on in our areas, and not too many people question unknown/unmarked cars and trucks driving driving around, assuming it's legit. As posted by both you AND Angiefox...we just need to PAY ATTENTION. If it doesn't happen great, if we can stop one incidence, you did good!! I for one, Thank You for reminding me to be aware.

[Bizdoc]

I suspect that several factors are at work which make new areas more attractive targets.
1. There are lots and lots of pickup trucks and work vans coming and going. No one thinks it odd to see a work van parked on a residential street.
2. The unattended gates are set in the up position for the day (to facilitate easy entry by trucks) or open automatically for everyone.
3. New area = new residents = new stuff. No one wants a 10 year old TV.
4. In new areas, neighbors are still learning each other's patterns.
5. Remember, you may not think that you are "rich", but for someone living on minimum wages, you have lots more than they do. And that makes you good pickings.

[Cedwards38]

Everybody.......please.......think about getting a security system!

[TVMayor]

Everybody.......please.......think about getting a security system!
Got one, a five shot and the other one is a six shot.

[kittygilchrist]

the problem with guns and these break ins is that the owners are absent. a gun in the drawer is just a bonus for these thieves.

[Lovey2]

Well said.
I'd like to know how many crimes that were reported on TOTV turned out to be lies? Also, provide the link to said lies.

OH, for Pete's sake. (who is Pete anyway?) Can't we just take the advice as given, be more cognizant of what's going on in the neighborhood, and leave it at that? What's with all the "false reporting" and fact finding. These so-called trolls are having a field day with all this dissension, if the "troll" thing is even true...hmmmm, maybe you made that up...gimme some facts. C'mon people...

[Bucco]

For whatever reason, I feel obligated to post something on this as I was one who, and to a different degree still do, was a doubter.

I have been posting on this TOTV for a number of years, and have lived in The Villages for many many, and can tell you a few things.

First, people who post on message boards do not always tell the truth. I am open to discussion on subjects, but enjoy those on which the discussion is based on facts that can be validated with links, etc. There have been many many false reports on here on a number of subject.

For me, if I was a victim, this probably might be the last place I would go to share, but then again, I am not big into sharing my life with anyone (much much too boring).

Secondly, there is crime in The Villages. To me, that is just a fact as it is all over this country. As long as there has been construction in The Villages, there have been break ins.

Fact that I posted what I did does not represent a lack of feeling for those who are victims.

[dengid]

The Sumter Co. Sheriff is being proactive and watching out for us. Last Monday morning at 1:53AM My kids were driving in from out of state. They had been on the road for 11 hours and were exactly 1 mi. from our house. They were stopped on Morse Blvd just above 466A by a Deputy for having a license plate light out. The deputy looked inside the vehicle and asked how many people were in it. Here we had a white F150 pick-up from out of state at 2 AM. Good profile. I'm happy to see they are looking out for us. BTW he gave them a warning for the light (when he pulled in the driveway we found the light was fine)

[jbdlfan]

Just curious as to how many people would like to have ALL arrests published in the Sun. It would be quite the police blotter but would also be informative. I read the Star Banner and it does contain this info for Marion County.
Would it be worth it? Does it matter? Would you feel safer knowing or threatened? Does anybody care if there was a meth bust in Coleman or Umatilla?
I've mentioned this on another thread that my hometown paper did this on all arrests. Just asking if it would be "needed"?

[graciegirl]

Just curious as to how many people would like to have ALL arrests published in the Sun. It would be quite the police blotter but would also be informative. I read the Star Banner and it does contain this info for Marion County.
Would it be worth it? Does it matter? Would you feel safer knowing or threatened? Does anybody care if there was a meth bust in Coleman or Umatilla?
I've mentioned this on another thread that my hometown paper did this on all arrests. Just asking if it would be "needed"?



I LIKE to know what is happening. I like the police blotter because it reports arrests and doesn't sensationalize.

[Peachie]

Just curious as to how many people would like to have ALL arrests published in the Sun. It would be quite the police blotter but would also be informative. I read the Star Banner and it does contain this info for Marion County.
Would it be worth it? Does it matter? Would you feel safer knowing or threatened? Does anybody care if there was a meth bust in Coleman or Umatilla?
I've mentioned this on another thread that my hometown paper did this on all arrests. Just asking if it would be "needed"?

I think this is a good question, jbdlfan. Personally, I would like this information very accessible but not printed in the Daily Sun. My preference would be for the villages dash news to carry this info. I want the Sun to provide the information to me in the form it is currently delivered and that would alleviate any angst against the Sun in the event something is missed or misstated. I could tap into the villages dash news anytime I wanted a police blotter fix.

[swimdawg]

It was on Allaire Loop Village of Fernandina, Yes it sounds like Allure Loop which is in not in the area.

1: Sumter Sheriff called Community Watch Dispatch to inform them of the situation.

2: Community Watch South Supervisor was dispatched by Community Watch to meet the Sumter Sheriff on scene.

3: Suspect is a young White male. Black Pants, Black Backpack, Black Bandana

4: Sheriff Dogs were tracking.

5: Situition is still under investigation.


Some Advise-

People in that area should keep garage doors down.

All Home doors locked.

Do not advertise that you are leaving, always make it appear someone is home.

Neighbors watch out for each other. Please report all suspicious individual(s) and call 911 immediately.

Most home intrusions occur between 12-4 ( yes there has been more than one in the last few months.)

There is no hype on this post just facts. It did occur.

All records of events are open for the public to view at community watch.

Many times police events are given to the HOA for posting at a later event by the Sheriff.

The crime rate is under .8% in The Villages. Let us respect the poor victims who were part of that .8 %.

To them it is very real, it did happen.

Thanks for posting and giving us good info. Thanks to OP for info....even though he was attacked by some. I've said for a long time that it's better to be more safe than sorry.

[NECHFalcon68]

The Sumter Co. Sheriff is being proactive and watching out for us.

Unfortunately, if the ACLU gets wind of this there will allegations of profiling....
let's face it, we are an affluent community surrounded by "less-affluent" communities...and prime targets for those who are desperate. As time goes on there will be more reports like the OP.

We need to be vigilant....

[HTing]

After reading the many posts on this topic I can only offer the following:

Marion County Sheriff's Office
Web Marion County Sheriff | (http://www.marionso.com) - Village Res telephone 352-753-2211

Sumter County Sherriff's Office
Web Welcome to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office Website (http://www.sumtercountysheriff.org) - telephone 352-569-1600
They have a crime line 800-423-TIPS

You can always call 911

I would love to see a Police type Blotter just to help with awareness.

Would I think of selling or not buying after reading any of the posts "H*** NO"

I am not going to bite that apple and leave Paradise.

[asianthree]

i always wonder how a post about making us aware of a possible issue becomes a bashing of posters...thanks to all who's post was about the possible issues at hand

[Moderator]

A number of posts with direct or indirect comments directed at each other have been deleted.

Please stay on topic and lean more on facts than rumors and innuendo.

Thanks for your cooperation.

[swimdawg]

After reading the many posts on this topic I can only offer the following:

Marion County Sheriff's Office
Web Marion County Sheriff | (http://www.marionso.com) - Village Res telephone 352-753-2211

Sumter County Sherriff's Office
Web Welcome to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office Website (http://www.sumtercountysheriff.org) - telephone 352-569-1600
They have a crime line 800-423-TIPS

You can always call 911

I would love to see a Police type Blotter just to help with awareness.

Would I think of selling or not buying after reading any of the posts "H*** NO"

I am not going to bite that apple and leave Paradise.

I think knowledge is a good thing........and I'd love to see a Police-type Blotter. We have it up here in Swimdawg North and not only is it informative, but it is entertaining as well. Some of the police calls listed are LOL funny........and some very serious. Bottom line: knowledge is power.

[redwitch]

Just got this email about the break-in. This is definitely the house on Allaire. I removed personal information so that the homeowner's name and house number are not available.

"Thought everyone should know, our house was robbed while we at the grocery store. Only gone about an hour. Took cash and jewelry but search all drawers and closets. Even took tools from garage and broke open a small safe with just important documents inside.

Got in by prying open slider on back of house. Police came and got a lot of finger prints off door and safe. Hope they catch the sob.

We're ok but feel violated.

Tell all neighbors to be on the lookout for strangers in the area."

Sounds like they may have been targeting this house (maybe a worker who had been inside and knew there were valuables?) and watching to see when the homeowners were going out. Imagine if they'd come in while the bad guy was there. I'm so glad they're safe.

[jbdlfan]

I think this is a good question, jbdlfan. Personally, I would like this information very accessible but not printed in the Daily Sun. My preference would be for the villages dash news to carry this info. I want the Sun to provide the information to me in the form it is currently delivered and that would alleviate any angst against the Sun in the event something is missed or misstated. I could tap into the villages dash news anytime I wanted a police blotter fix.

I think you might be right on here Peachie. Leave the Sun as the "feel good" recreation newsletter and have a more direct informational site. It would also, as you say, get everyone off the Sun's back regarding printing "the bad stuff."

[rubicon]

One of the reasons some people are reacting the way they have with this thread is because of the misplaced opinion they have had of The villages such as comparing it to Disneyworld. "Indeed it is as painful to be awakening from a vision as to be born." ( James Joyce)

As indicated in previous posts I am very guarded and this topic is one reason why. "Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? "the shadow knows'"

I would prefer to error on the side of people jokingly reporting a crime on TOTV than to ignore it. I say this because it seems remote and not motivational to want to report a false crime, and it has the benefit of reminding me to stay aware and alert.

It has been a concern of my since arriving that employers, including the Developer do not do a sufficient review of the people they hire.

combine this Disneyworld view of residents with an less than vetted workforce and add in easily available valuables lying around, sparse policing and you create the perfect storm.

Break-ins have been occurring before I arrived and have only increased since both north and south in TV.

[rubicon]

A public service announcement in New York is, "see something" "say something"

[ccalvertr]

If so, I apologize. I cannot imagine posting these things with no validation. It always bothers me that people feel the can just say things on here..that is childish.

I have lived here for approx 13 years, and what people have been posting is totally foreign, and I speak with many many folks in the course of a day. It just seems the "reports" are coming from "newer" members of TOTV, in some cases if you read past posts what seems to be an agenda.

Any adult who runs to TOTV to yell crime wit so little attempt at validation bothers me.

If wrong...sorry, but my gut usually sends me in the right direction

I know for a (FACT) that the house was robbed and the front door kicked in
in on Adrienne Way because I live across the street and seen the damage
with my own eyes and talked to the owner.

[courtyard]

To prevent entry from our "slider" door, we inserted (in the track) a 2" wide board around 36" long. It prevents the door from being slid back.

[graciegirl]

I know for a (FACT) that the house was robbed and the front door kicked in
in on Adrienne Way because I live across the street and seen the damage
with my own eyes and talked to the owner.



Yes there were TWO very close there. No one disputes that. But what I STILL don't understand from the posts on this forum was there a third in Sanibel? We all heard about the one yesterday in Fernandina. In a previous post, Angie Fox mentioned several others and her post was the only time I had heard that there were several others south of 466A. Has anyone heard anything about the rest of those crimes?

[redwitch]

Yes there were TWO very close there. No one disputes that. But what I STILL don't understand from the posts on this forum was there a third in Sanibel? We all heard about the one yesterday in Fernandina. In a previous post, Angie Fox mentioned several others and her post was the only time I had heard that there were several others south of 466A. Has anyone heard anything about the rest of those crimes?'

I've heard of four now (two might actually be the same home, not sure). One I know of as fact. I'll believe the email I received since it had the homeowner's name and address and I do know that there was at least one break-in on that street, possibly two. The other two that I've heard of fall in the someone told me category, so not as sure although my sources are very reliable.

Of course, the easy way to confirm this is to call the Sumter County Sheriff and ask. (I'm too lazy and really do have full confidence that the perpetrator(s) will be caught.)

[Chazz]

After reading some of the responses to the OP in this thread, I would have to think long and hard, before I would post a message informing the forum of such an incident that came to my attention. I wouldn't be surprised if many other "silent" watchers of this thread have gotten the same message that I did. I thank the OP for informing us and for enduring doubts cast on his integrity.

[tommy steam]

Sorry about what happened to you. Hopefully the police will patrol more in the area.

[Cedwards38]

Got one, a five shot and the other one is a six shot.

I understand that, but these people aren't robbing homes when people are home. How do you turn on your five and six shot when you're away. I still say, get a security system.

[rubicon]

Based on the redundancy of comments it may be members are more interested in sharing their opinion than sharing???????????????

[KathieI]

Personally, I want to thank the OP for alerting us to this crime and to the poor victims for wanting us to know this happened to them. Although it scares me to hear of these crimes, it also alerts me as to be smarter and don't take anything for granted. I remember a few years ago when there were a couple of robberies near Stillwater and Morse (I know these were true because one of my good friends home was robbed), our neighborhood met to discuss how we can all help each other. One of the men cut the poles for us to put in our slider doors so they can't be pried open and we discussed various things we as individuals should be doing to increase our security. At that time, I ordered motion lights for my lanai and outside my house and we were all on alert watching each others homes. Sounds like a good time to do that again.

Yes, crime happens everywhere, especially in most of the cities I lived in, and not much crime happens in The Villages, but that doesn't mean we should put our heads in the sand and not heed these warnings.

[swimdawg]

Personally, I want to thank the OP for alerting us to this crime and to the poor victims for wanting us to know this happened to them. Although it scares me to hear of these crimes, it also alerts me as to be smarter and don't take anything for granted. I remember a few years ago when there were a couple of robberies near Stillwater and Morse (I know these were true because one of my good friends home was robbed), our neighborhood met to discuss how we can all help each other. One of the men cut the poles for us to put in our slider doors so they can't be pried open and we discussed various things we as individuals should be doing to increase our security. At that time, I ordered motion lights for my lanai and outside my house and we were all on alert watching each others homes. Sounds like a good time to do that again.

Yes, crime happens everywhere, especially in most of the cities I lived in, and not much crime happens in The Villages, but that doesn't mean we should put our heads in the sand and not heed these warnings.

I agree with you, KathieI.

I've had a motion light sitting on my desk for many months. I always thought, "I will install it next time I'm in Swimdawg South". Thank you for reminding me. Next time is here!

I also have a camera that I can install and check out my house online. I'm always so busy when I'm in TV.....and it's easy to say, "I'll install it next time". Yep....next time is NOW!!! No more procrastinating.

You're right about low crime in TV....and it's easy to "put our heads in the sand" and merrily go on our way.

This has been a huge wake-up call!

[Lovey2]

Yes there were TWO very close there. No one disputes that. But what I STILL don't understand from the posts on this forum was there a third in Sanibel? We all heard about the one yesterday in Fernandina. In a previous post, Angie Fox mentioned several others and her post was the only time I had heard that there were several others south of 466A. Has anyone heard anything about the rest of those crimes?

Not quite accurate. Originally Happinow, who lives in Sanibel, said there were 3 burglaries in Sanibel. She was talking about the third one, and several people disputed that she knew this for fact, she does, and someone even inferred a lot of "new" people were posting and not to be trusted because we were new. I was pretty sure you were in on that thread, Gracie. Happinow was quite clear that there was a 3rd in Sanibel.

[graciegirl]

Not quite accurate. Originally Happinow, who lives in Sanibel, said there were 3 burglaries in Sanibel. She was talking about the third one, and several people disputed that she knew this for fact, she does, and someone even inferred a lot of "new" people were posting and not to be trusted because we were new. I was pretty sure you were in on that thread, Gracie. Happinow was quite clear that there was a 3rd in Sanibel.


You are correct. I completely misinterpreted what she said .

[Barefoot]

OH, for Pete's sake. Can't we just take the advice as given, be more cognizant of what's going on in the neighborhood, and leave it at that? What's with all the "false reporting" and fact finding.

:agree:

[Sable99]

Personally, I want to thank the OP for alerting us to this crime and to the poor victims for wanting us to know this happened to them. Although it scares me to hear of these crimes, it also alerts me as to be smarter and don't take anything for granted. I remember a few years ago when there were a couple of robberies near Stillwater and Morse (I know these were true because one of my good friends home was robbed), our neighborhood met to discuss how we can all help each other. One of the men cut the poles for us to put in our slider doors so they can't be pried open and we discussed various things we as individuals should be doing to increase our security. At that time, I ordered motion lights for my lanai and outside my house and we were all on alert watching each others homes. Sounds like a good time to do that again.

Yes, crime happens everywhere, especially in most of the cities I lived in, and not much crime happens in The Villages, but that doesn't mean we should put our heads in the sand and not heed these warnings.


The motion lights are a great idea!

[dillywho]

The SO will come to your home and make security suggestions (no charge). One of the things the deputy who came to our house told us to do, is to simply put a small dowel in the track above the slider. The dowel rides along the track, which prevents anyone from lifting the door from the track. He showed me how the door could be lifted out even with a board blocking the bottom track. Can't be done with the dowel on top. Do both.

I let at least one of my neighbors know when I am going to be gone, especially any length of time or if we are both going.

Don't tell people via your answering machine that you're not home or post plans on social media. I keep my landline forwarded to my cell phone (for various reasons) and people don't know that I am not home. Most times, I am here.

Please don't put your trash out early! A guy down the street from us was broken into several years ago because he put his trash out on Friday for Monday pickup. Arrange to have a neighbor set your trash out on trash day. We even "share" trash with some so it looks like someone is in town.

You can "share" your driveway when you're gone, too.

We do have an alarm system that also serves as medical, etc., as well. The only way someone would know it is here is when it is breached. The siren is deafening! You want the element of surprise and don't want them in your house in the first place.

I stopped a young man on a bicycle going up and down the driveways one day and asked if I could help him. He explained to me that he was checking the electric meters and showed me what he was doing. Remember, vigilance was what caught the package-swiping thief last week.

Make it a point to go outside several times a day for something, even if you just walk around the house checking the yard/landscaping/and what's going on. Residential activity is pretty deterrent to criminals. If you see something that just doesn't look/feel right, ask questions or make a call. Law enforcement won't mind coming out and their presence at various times is pretty good insurance.

[Lovey2]

The SO will come to your home and make security suggestions (no charge). One of the things the deputy who came to our house told us to do, is to simply put a small dowel in the track above the slider. The dowel rides along the track, which prevents anyone from lifting the door from the track. He showed me how the door could be lifted out even with a board blocking the bottom track. Can't be done with the dowel on top. Do both.

I let at least one of my neighbors know when I am going to be gone, especially any length of time or if we are both going.

Don't tell people via your answering machine that you're not home or post plans on social media. I keep my landline forwarded to my cell phone (for various reasons) and people don't know that I am not home. Most times, I am here.



Please don't put your trash out early! A guy down the street from us was broken into several years ago because he put his trash out on Friday for Monday pickup. Arrange to have a neighbor set your trash out on trash day. We even "share" trash with some so it looks like someone is in town.

You can "share" your driveway when you're gone, too.

We do have an alarm system that also serves as medical, etc., as well. The only way someone would know it is here is when it is breached. The siren is deafening! You want the element of surprise and don't want them in your house in the first place.

I stopped a young man on a bicycle going up and down the driveways one day and asked if I could help him. He explained to me that he was checking the electric meters and showed me what he was doing. Remember, vigilance was what caught the package-swiping thief last week.

Make it a point to go outside several times a day for something, even if you just walk around the house checking the yard/landscaping/and what's going on. Residential activity is pretty deterrent to criminals. If you see something that just doesn't look/feel right, ask questions or make a call. Law enforcement won't mind coming out and their presence at various times is pretty good insurance.

all good advice...never heard of the dowel, will get that!!

[shcisamax]

I hesitate to post this because I expect someone is going to say something derogatory or accuse me of making it up or in some other way way comment to make me wish I hadn't shared this. But I do want you all to know the police are really on this.

There was an unmarked truck on my street yesterday morning at a house that had no one home and had postal notices in the door. Two men got out with wands to spray the grass. They said they were from Massey but had not yet gotten their truck painted with the logo. Someone took down the license plate as they left and later called Massey to ask if they had unmarked trucks. They said, "No." The police were called. Four cars arrived with five policemen. They are NOT messing around. As it turned out, the guys WERE from Massey but the woman didn't know they didn't have the logo. Guess they will now get that logo on their truck pronto. :) Although it was a false alarm, the police said everyone did the right thing under the circumstances. So know that they want to get calls with any suspicious activity.

[Cobh521]

There was an unmarked truck on my street yesterday morning at a house that had no one home and had postal notices in the door.

I am only offering a suggestion. If someone is away and there are notices from vendors or the post office, it may be in their best interest to have a neighbor remove them and give to the owners when they return. I have done this on several occasions and the owners were grateful.

[Cisco Kid]

Sooner or later someone is going to post a photo of police cars at a house with a door kicked in.

Then this thread may get some action.

[Lovey2]

We came from an area where a lot of our neighbors were snowbirds. We are in the habit of looking out for homes that look unoccupied...removing any papers, mail in doors, and even putting our trash out at the empty homes. We have continued to do so here. Hey, thinking of a neighborhood watch kinda thing. Anybody have that going on in their immediate neighborhoods??

[kittygilchrist]

I drove through Sanibel yesterday, Lovey, just keeping an eye out. I can drive around once a day on watch. Neighborhood watch is a good idea but to be most effective would need a leader and org meetings.

[Lovey2]

I'm thinking we may hafta get something going here around Brinkley, Albara. We've had the models to rely on for lotsa traffic, but I think most will be closed after the 1st. (?) Maybe we can talk it up at the NYE get together. Yes, I will drive thru the neighborhood more, too...good idea!

[KathieI]

Sometimes the police have a PR person who can help you organize a community watch. They held one meeting a month with us in Los Angeles and helped keep the program going. Must say it was very effective.

Shcisamax, that was a good job. Keeping your eyes open and alerting the police of suspicious situations. I found the police to be very responsive here when we were having an issue in our neighborhood. They took care of the total situation and told us to call them anytime we had a problem.

[swimdawg]

Sooner or later someone is going to post a photo of police cars at a house with a door kicked in.

Then this thread may get some action.

I know.....this thread needs some action....sooo boring!

And with that said, YOU get the Swimdawg Post of the Day Award!:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[angiefox10]

I think this has turned into a VERY positive thread... I love problem solving. I for one have gotten some good ideas on how to be a better neighbor. Things I can do to protect my neighbor's and my home.

Please keep the ideas coming and please don't be afraid to post if you see something. I would rather you post wrong than to not post anything and have more homes broken into as a result of no one being aware.

Does it really matter if they came through the front door or the back? The important thing to get out is that someone is out there and we need to keep our eyes open.

[Lovey2]

I think this has turned into a VERY positive thread... I love problem solving. I for one have gotten some good ideas on how to be a better neighbor. Things I can do to protect my neighbor's and my home.

Please keep the ideas coming and please don't be afraid to post if you see something. I would rather you post wrong than to not post anything and have more homes broken into as a result of no one being aware.

Does it really matter if they came through the front door or the back? The important thing to get out is that someone is out there and we need to keep our eyes open.

Exactly!! And, it seems to me, these are broad daylight robberies. We are used to patrolling at night only. Just think, if every time you left your house, you took a few extra minutes to drive a few surrounding streets...AND....ASK questions. If it's a neighbor, they'll thank you...if it's not...your neighbor's will still Thank you. I had a neighbor almost chase my Aunt and cousin off my dock one day, because she didn't know who she was!! I, and my Aunt, appreciated the effort. I lived alone at the time!! The police can't be everywhere and they don't know our neighborhoods like we do...let's get out there!!

[rubicon]

You can purchase an alarm system. You can strategically position motion detectors . You can buy a guard dog. You can insert bars to prevent sliding doors from sliding. However this guy in broad daylight is knocking down doors and short of bolting a heavy plank horizontally across the door every time you leave the house well.............................................. .........And if you door is designed with a tiffany glass insert forget the plank

The sheriff's department needs to be much more active in neighborhoods. Community Watch needs to be even more visible

[swimdawg]

I think this has turned into a VERY positive thread... I love problem solving. I for one have gotten some good ideas on how to be a better neighbor. Things I can do to protect my neighbor's and my home.

Please keep the ideas coming and please don't be afraid to post if you see something. I would rather you post wrong than to not post anything and have more homes broken into as a result of no one being aware.

Does it really matter if they came through the front door or the back? The important thing to get out is that someone is out there and we need to keep our eyes open.

You are spot on, Angie. You should get the SPOTD Award!

[graciegirl]

I hesitate to post this because I expect someone is going to say something derogatory or accuse me of making it up or in some other way way comment to make me wish I hadn't shared this. But I do want you all to know the police are really on this.

There was an unmarked truck on my street yesterday morning at a house that had no one home and had postal notices in the door. Two men got out with wands to spray the grass. They said they were from Massey but had not yet gotten their truck painted with the logo. Someone took down the license plate as they left and later called Massey to ask if they had unmarked trucks. They said, "No." The police were called. Four cars arrived with five policemen. They are NOT messing around. As it turned out, the guys WERE from Massey but the woman didn't know they didn't have the logo. Guess they will now get that logo on their truck pronto. :) Although it was a false alarm, the police said everyone did the right thing under the circumstances. So know that they want to get calls with any suspicious activity.



Sandra. I think it is entirely possible that the person who is doing this is working for a good and reputable business like Massey or name any other good and reputable business. I think they could be calling someone with the information of someone leaving together and with some knowledge of the neighborhood being pretty empty at the time. We have groups going to lunch together etc. I think it is someone who works in these neighborhoods or lives in these neighborhoods.


This morning The Sun published a report of some 30 year old guy who lives in Hemmingway arrested at Brownwood by the Wildwood police on another charge and when they searched his belongings they found a purse with several credit cards not his, a controlled substance and pot. He had been arrested before so he had a mug shot I found on the internet after reading that article.


WHY aren't they writing about these break ins?


article below.


http://www.lakemugshots.com/Mugshots/Travis_rosa/228056-ae3dd4b6a016ed4c1473f501224c86a0

[shcisamax]

Sandra. I think it is entirely possible that the person who is doing this is working for a good and reputable business like Massey or name any other good and reputable business. I think they could be calling someone with the information of someone leaving together and with some knowledge of the neighborhood being pretty empty at the time. We have groups going to lunch together etc. I think it is someone who works in these neighborhoods or lives in these neighborhoods.


This morning The Sun published a report of some 30 year old guy who lives in Hemmingway arrested at Brownwood by the Wildwood police on another charge and when they searched his belongings they found a purse with several credit cards not his, a controlled substance and pot. He had been arrested before so he had a mug shot I found on the internet after reading that article.




WHY aren't they writing about these break ins?



I hadn't considered that it was rot from within. Yikes.

[tommy steam]

That guy looks like he is high or drunk. Just a thought, can signs be put up saying it has a community watch program in place? I think it might be good to place them at the gates where you enter and than several more thru the neighborhoods. This alerts the criminals that we are watching and they might think twice before committing any criminal act.

[graciegirl]

Here is a link to a story about a bunch of burglaries in 2009


Burglars In The Villages May Be Using Golf Carts | www.wftv.com (http://www.wftv.com/news/news/burglars-in-the-villages-may-be-using-golf-carts/nFBxk/)


And see the article in my post above about the guy arrested in Brownwood on Monday.


I have to think law enforcement is really on this.


But WHY isn't anything mentioned in the Sun or in Meta Mintons on line news about the break ins south of 466A??????

[Lovey2]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;802311]Here is a link to a story about a bunch of burglaries in 2009


Burglars In The Villages May Be Using Golf Carts | www.wftv.com (http://www.wftv.com/news/news/burglars-in-the-villages-may-be-using-golf-carts/nFBxk/)


And see the article in my post above about the guy arrested in Brownwood yesterday.


I have to think law enforcement is really on this.


But WHY isn't anything mentioned in the Sun or in Meta Mintons on line news about the break ins south of 466A??????[/QUOTE


Does it matter? Neighbors are telling us what they know...surely they aren't lying..what would be the point? I'm not gonna wait to read it there before I take steps in my area.

As for a solution, I'm gonna start with window decals for us and our neighbors that say "Neighborhood watch...you are being watched and any suspicious activity will be reported to the local police" (or something like that) If a whole neighborhood has it, they might believe it to be true. They can be found cheaply enough online and the more you get, the cheaper they are. I'm gonna try to get something more structured going, but we'll start with the decals. Can't imagine anyone will say no to that.

[buggyone]

I would think a home alarm system would be a lot more effective than a decal but no one would object to a decal in your window.

As for a neighborhood watch program, get the sheriff's office to tell you what can and cannot be done. The Villages does not want to be the next Sanford.

[Lovey2]

I would think a home alarm system would be a lot more effective than a decal but no one would object to a decal in your window.

As for a neighborhood watch program, get the sheriff's office to tell you what can and cannot be done. The Villages does not want to be the next Sanford.

Yes...good idea! I'll start there. And, of course, an alarm would be better. But sometimes the simplest answers work, too. These don't sound like accomplished thieves, resorting to kicking in doors and the like. Maybe we'll get the actual home alarm signs. They can just be bought too. A small deterrent is better than none.

[gomoho]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;802311]
But WHY isn't anything mentioned in the Sun or in Meta Mintons on line news about the break ins south of 466A??????[/QUOTE


Does it matter? Neighbors are telling us what they know...surely they aren't lying..what would be the point? I'm not gonna wait to read it there before I take steps in my area.

.

Not everyone is on TOTV or have neighbors discussing this - so the newspaper would certainly be a logical place to put the word out to those that are not in the loop.

[tippyclubb]

Yes...good idea! I'll start there. And, of course, an alarm would be better. But sometimes the simplest answers work, too. These don't sound like accomplished thieves, resorting to kicking in doors and the like. Maybe we'll get the actual home alarm signs. They can just be bought too. A small deterrent is better than none.

We do have a house alarm with the windows stickers and signs that push in the ground. Our neighborhood has had quite a few break ins lately, including the house across the street and 2 doors down. I'm convinced we have not been targeted because of our security stickers and signs.

[Lovey2]

[quote=Lovey2;802326]

Not everyone is on TOTV or have neighbors discussing this - so the newspaper would certainly be a logical place to put the word out to those that are not in the loop.

Makes sense....

[Lovey2]

We do have a house alarm with the windows stickers and signs that push in the ground. Our neighborhood has had quite a few break ins lately, including the house across the street and 2 doors down. I'm convinced we have not been targeted because of our security stickers and signs.

Thank Goodness you weren't. I'm gonna go with that then, for now. Thanks!

[tippyclubb]

Thank Goodness you weren't. I'm gonna go with that then, for now. Thanks!

You can get them here. A bit expensive but well worth it. Click on the little a below.


Amazon.com: 2 New Brinks Home Security Alarm System Yard Signs & 8 Brinks Window Decal Stickers: Patio, Lawn & Garden

[kstew43]

Cheap and easy idea is to always leave the radio, TV or something with volume turned up so it could be heard from the front door so the crooks can hear that somebody may be in the house and move on......Costs a little electricity but much more cost effective than a security system.

We do that here in Miami.

[Ladylaw]

There have been quite a few "kick ins". Gilcrest, Cedar Grove, now Fernandina. These all seem to be occurring south of 466a and west of Buena Vista. Keep your eyes open. These beautiful glass doors are not secure & allow the bad guys to look right in. As with any town/city, due diligence is required. Slide bolts for your doors, alarm systems, etc. Remember, this is The Friendliest Place, not necessarily The Safest Place.

[tommy steam]

You can get them here. A bit expensive but well worth it. Click on the little a below.


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Very good information, thanks for taking your time to look it up and post it.

[asianthree]

we have a kissing lanai, and the couple spend every waking minute there..kind of like a live alarm.

[swimdawg]

There have been quite a few "kick ins". Gilcrest, Cedar Grove, now Fernandina. These all seem to be occurring south of 466a and west of Buena Vista. Keep your eyes open. These beautiful glass doors are not secure & allow the bad guys to look right in. As with any town/city, due diligence is required. Slide bolts for your doors, alarm systems, etc. Remember, this is The Friendliest Place, not necessarily The Safest Place.

Ladylaw, I applaud you for speaking up as I do OscarOlden.....even though you only have 2 posts and Oscar didn't have hundreds ( like I have) or thousands like some posters who really discredited him. It was obvious Oscar had credible info but right away he was pounced on with such comments as " childish" "vigilante behavior" "very shallow information" "So many people are totally anonymous on here and they can or cannot be trusted". "It would be gullible to swallow stuff from someone who we have little reading history on this forum and always enjoyed stirring things up".

I for one appreciate Oscar for speaking up and I appreciate you coming on to give us excellent advice....even though you only have two posts. Sometimes it's not quantity.....but quality that counts.

[graciegirl]

Ladylaw, I applaud you for speaking up as I do OscarOlden.....even though you only have 2 posts and Oscar didn't have hundreds ( like I have) or thousands like some posters who really discredited him. It was obvious Oscar had credible info but right away he was pounced on with such comments as " childish" "vigilante behavior" "very shallow information" "So many people are totally anonymous on here and they can or cannot be trusted". "It would be gullible to swallow stuff from someone who we have little reading history on this forum and always enjoyed stirring things up".

I for one appreciate Oscar for speaking up and I appreciate you coming on to give us excellent advice....even though you only have two posts. Sometimes it's not quantity.....but quality that counts.





Ouch.

[CarGuys]

Community Watch offers Home House Checks for $5.00 per week as needed.

Three times per week at random times a Patrol Driver gets out and walks the property as per instructions left my the resident..

For example: Should or should not be a car in the yard, Name of landscapers. Name of an Emergency Key Holder etc etc.

Some people even use this service to check on their home when renters are in it.

Some use the service for peace of mind while away for short trips or extended summer vacations. While no system is perfect criminals who stake out property do not like random patrols stopping.

This Home Watch Service used to be advertised at the Lake Minoa Recreation Centers new residents Meet and Greet Social. There is also a Community Watch Home Adult Watch. A free service where a resident is called by Dispatch every day at a set time to make sure all is well.

For what ever reason after 15 years Community Watch and The Fire Department were asked to not attend anymore. I hear they now bring in Golf Carts to sell?

[graciegirl]

There have been quite a few "kick ins". Gilcrest, Cedar Grove, now Fernandina. These all seem to be occurring south of 466a and west of Buena Vista. Keep your eyes open. These beautiful glass doors are not secure & allow the bad guys to look right in. As with any town/city, due diligence is required. Slide bolts for your doors, alarm systems, etc. Remember, this is The Friendliest Place, not necessarily The Safest Place.



Just to correct a little problem with direction. Fernandina is east of Buena Vista.


I so agree with the rest of your post but had not heard particulars on the ones in Gilcrest and Cedar Grove. Can you tell us when they happened? AND where is the Village of Cedar Grove. I have never heard of it..


Never mind. I see it is a street. This is quite unnerving. Lawlady. Are you in the new area?

[Bucco]

Ladylaw, I applaud you for speaking up as I do OscarOlden.....even though you only have 2 posts and Oscar didn't have hundreds ( like I have) or thousands like some posters who really discredited him. It was obvious Oscar had credible info but right away he was pounced on with such comments as " childish" "vigilante behavior" "very shallow information" "So many people are totally anonymous on here and they can or cannot be trusted". "It would be gullible to swallow stuff from someone who we have little reading history on this forum and always enjoyed stirring things up".

I for one appreciate Oscar for speaking up and I appreciate you coming on to give us excellent advice....even though you only have two posts. Sometimes it's not quantity.....but quality that counts.

If I may..to be clear and straightforward.

Over the years on this forum, there have been many a rash of posts made that were untrue, made up, and intended only to get attention and rile everyone up.

Almost 100% of those posters had one single thing in common.....a low post count.

Because of that, most on here take note of that.

Your message was not needed.....nobody accused anyone of anything.

As you and others suggest caution in your neighborhood, I will suggest you exercise that same caution on TOTV. You will find a lot of folks who are not exactly what they purport.

[shcisamax]

As you and others suggest caution in your neighborhood, I will suggest you exercise that same caution on TOTV. You will find a lot of folks who are not exactly what they purport.

Beginning to sound awfully dangerous here on TOTV...

[Bucco]

Beginning to sound awfully dangerous here on TOTV...

Your comment is very very sophomoric. Not sure of you agenda, but obvious you have one, and some poster will figure it out and call you on it..of that be sure.

If I am wrong, I apologize, but this constant harping as we have had to listen to sound very very much of a ...well can't come up with a name for it, but seems things always have a way of working out.

Breakins happen at times, and it is more than irresponsible to make a comment like yours about my hometown, where I have lived for over 13 years, and KNOW FACTUALLY how safe it is here, thus my questions on intent.

[Bucco]

Beginning to sound awfully dangerous here on TOTV...

By the way, the only thing dangerous on TOTV is filtering out certain people..takes time sometimes, but then you know who the immatures and game players are. Everyone on here does not always agree except when it comes to certain actions

[shcisamax]

Your comment is very very sophomoric. Not sure of you agenda, but obvious you have one, and some poster will figure it out and call you on it..of that be sure.



As I said, "It is getting to be very dangerous on TOTV".

[angiefox10]

There are many people who live in The Villages who are on TOTV watching. They only come on to post when they find it necessary. Often times people want to question the number of posts they have made, before they will consider a poster valid. Every member of this forum has the right to post. If you don't agree... That's really OK. But let the rest of us make that decision for ourselves.

Many of us knew about the break-in's for awhile. We have been trying to post about them long before this. It was hard getting past the nay sayers to get people to listen. Maybe we could have gotten the word out better if the people who " didn't believe" would have let the people who did believe it get the word out.

I would rather have someone feel free to post, (for example the golf cart stolen) and be wrong... Than to be afraid to post homes being broken into and be right.

Swimdawg was only quoting another poster as an example of why people are afraid to post. We all live here! We all care! No one is trying to tarnish the brass of The Villagers... We are just trying to protect our homes.

I will no longer be afraid to post... You know who I am. My name is Angie Fox. People who know me know I am honest. I have my REAL name out here.

[Barefoot]

I hesitate to post this because I expect someone is going to say something derogatory or accuse me of making it up or in some other way way comment to make me wish I hadn't shared this. But I do want you all to know the police are really on this.

I feel sorry when a valued member like Shcisamax is reluctant to post because she feels derogatory comments will be made.

Yes, every website gets a few trolls from time to time. However I think we have to start accepting posts at face value from old and new members alike, unless we have an excellent reason to doubt their authenticity. And in my humble opinion, being new doesn't count as a good reason.

[swimdawg]

Community Watch offers Home House Checks for $5.00 per week as needed.

Three times per week at random times a Patrol Driver gets out and walks the property as per instructions left my the resident..

For example: Should or should not be a car in the yard, Name of landscapers. Name of an Emergency Key Holder etc etc.

Some people even use this service to check on their home when renters are in it.

Some use the service for peace of mind while away for short trips or extended summer vacations. While no system is perfect criminals who stake out property do not like random patrols stopping.

This Home Watch Service used to be advertised at the Lake Minoa Recreation Centers new residents Meet and Greet Social. There is also a Community Watch Home Adult Watch. A free service where a resident is called by Dispatch every day at a set time to make sure all is well.

For what ever reason after 15 years Community Watch and The Fire Department were asked to not attend anymore. I hear they now bring in Golf Carts to sell?

Once again, thank you for great info. I wonder why these services are not highly advertised?

[buggyone]

"Many of us knew about the break-in's for awhile. We have been trying to post about them long before this. It was hard getting past the nay sayers to get people to listen. Maybe we could have gotten the word out better if the people who " didn't believe" would have let the people who did believe it get the word out."

This is just thinking out loud and not a criticism of anyone - since it seems as though quite a few people knew about break-in's - and it did not get publicized, why didn't (or don't) they obtain a copy of the police report and take it to The Daily Commercial or the Orlando Sentinel - if The Daily Sun would not take the story? As I said earlier, the Orlando Sentinel hates The Villages and would love to print bad press about us.

The home owners would have a copy of the police report and the exact address could have been removed for putting in a newspaper - or scanned on-line for the posting on TOTV.

[Mr.Kris]

Apparently my thread on cyberbullying was closed prematurely, i.e. "Please inform me."

It was an attempt to elicit introspection and dialogue.

Maybe we can start the thread again.

[CFrance]

Why don't the initial posters who hear or are privy in some way to the break-ins or other crimes call the police and get a confirmation, and then post? If they came on with confirmed information, the nay-sayers would be silenced. Nobody likes rumors. If it didn't happen to you, get some confirmation from a reliable source, then post.

it would solve a lot of the perceived "bullying" problems.

[swimdawg]

Google is very simple. Oddly, the bullies don't need to post proof, sworn affidavits, and a crime scene analysis. Oh wait, that's right. The bullies don't ever post useful info. They're just here to pick apart every other post.

Exactly!

[angiefox10]

Why would someone call the police and get conformation when they already know it's true?

I knew the stories were true and posted such... People wanted conformation. Then... for crying out loud... You get it. I already knew it.

I will post. If you want conformation. YOU get it! If I am wrong, the worst that can happen is someone locks their doors a little more or pays closer attention.

Someone posted the phone number to the police. Write down and make the call. In the meantime. I trust that my neighbors are telling me the truth. I don't know that they have any reason to lie.

[graciegirl]

Google is very simple. Oddly, the bullies don't need to post proof, sworn affidavits, and a crime scene analysis. Oh wait, that's right. The bullies don't ever post useful info. They're just here to pick apart every other post.



I think Rubicon would call that a red herring. The non emergency numbers aren't answering as it's the weekend.


I imagine by Tuesday we will know just how many break ins occurred, where and when. Then we can clearly define the problem.

[angiefox10]

We need a number because??????

How many does it take for people to pay attention?

What is that magic number???

What will anyone do different if it's one, two , three, or ten?

For crying out loud..... What is wrong with people????

[Mr.Kris]

When you debate an issue you attack the premise, not the debater.

Clearly in some of the post here, and others on TOTV, personal innuendo is being used.

Whether you clearly recognize that or not may depend on which side of the table you are sitting on.

[Lovey2]

This whole thing is very amazing to me. It seems "new" people have no value, and must be one of the few that make the decisions on here to be listened to. I, for one, am just so over having to have all my thoughts verified and sanctioned by, who??? who are you, TOTV police? What I hoped could be useful information to me, has just turned into a war of who knows what, who knows more, and now that I know it all, you can believe the newbies. Wow....America's friendliest hometown?

[CFrance]

Google is very simple. Oddly, the bullies don't need to post proof, sworn affidavits, and a crime scene analysis. Oh wait, that's right. The bullies don't ever post useful info. They're just here to pick apart every other post.

I don't understand your response. Are you saying I should google for proof of what someone posts on the forum as being true, instead of they themselves providing credible evidence of what they are saying?

I'm just saying if you hear a rumor, check it out with the police or whoever is a reliable source before posting. Unless you saw it yourself or talked to the victim (not the victim's cousin's brother-in-law's next-door neighbor), find some facts before posting.

I think what people are getting upset about are the posters who say such-and-such happened and don't provide any further information or facts.

[nitehawk]

Apparently my thread on cyberbullying was closed prematurely, i.e. "Please inform me."

It was an attempt to elicit introspection and dialogue.

Maybe we can start the thread again.

WOW -- what does this mean --- i dont feel like looking it up (and RDC)

[Skybo]

It's not that I don't believe folks when they post about a burglary, break-in, theft, etc, but it's important to substantiate those reports. Knowledge is indeed power, but only if that knowledge is accurate.

Unsubstantiated reports tend to take on a life of their own, and become legend, even when proven false. Most recently we have had a report of a golf cart stolen from a driveway. As it turned out, that was a "false alarm", but I guarantee you, the initial report will reach many more folks than than the retraction will.

I've recently read a post (which I can't find) from someone who stated that there have been "kick-ins" in Gilchrest, Fernandina, and (somewhere else I can't recall). I've not heard of reports about "kick-ins" in any of those Villages.

I have heard about (3) kick-ins in Sanibel over the past few months. And I've heard about the slider door break in entry in Fernandina. I do believe those reports as they have come from multiple sources here.

I don't know why these burglaries haven't yet been reported, but you can't blame the Daily Sun, because they haven't been reported in any other news sources yet, including the Villages Online news, which is usually right on top of things.

As for those folks who are lining up on sides...bullies vs non-bullies? Really? People have opinions...that's it. We're all old enough to know better than to give a rat's ass about anyone else's opinion.