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ajbrown 04-19-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 481325)
I see T-105's for about $125 free shipping no tax, are you quoting a different battery?

He is quoting the price of the 48V Battery Minder.

ystergarde 04-30-2012 01:41 PM

I believe that Northern Tool is no longer selling the 36V or 48V BatteryMINDers anymore! The best bet is to buy locally, that way you'll be sure to have all your questions answered and proper installation by professionals!

Robert Reinhardt 06-29-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ystergarde (Post 486430)
I believe that Northern Tool is no longer selling the 36V or 48V BatteryMINDers anymore! The best bet is to buy locally, that way you'll be sure to have all your questions answered and proper installation by professionals!

Northern Tool no longer sells these units because we (BatteryMINDer Distributors) were promoting the unit in The Villages, Leesburg, Eustis, Tavares, Mt. Dora, Summerfield, Wildwood and Oxford, quoting the price out and not getting the deal. The consumer went straight to Northern Tool and really beat our cost.

jimbo2012 06-29-2012 12:02 PM

So what's your current promotional price to TV?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-30-2012 09:48 PM

Your cart appears to have larger wheels than standard. Does it also have an upgraded suspension system? What did you have to do to get the 8 six volt batteries in? I have a 2002 Club Car Ds and would love to upgrade it and be able to get that kind of mileage. Warning, I am pretty much a fill and go guy as you call us. I am not interested in spending hours maintaining my cart.

jimbo2012 06-30-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 514643)
I have a 2002 Club Car Ds and would love to upgrade it

Is it 36 or 48volt

graciegirl 07-01-2012 07:36 AM

Are you wearing a ski mask?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-01-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 514662)
Is it 36 or 48volt

It's a 48 Volt

jimbo2012 07-01-2012 11:29 AM

Ok, Al is using 8x6volt, that gives him about 30% increase in amp hours

Al can tell you how he fitted those extra battery's better than I,
but it appears to have a lift kit and larger wheels/tires, this adds to the distance it will go, but if you go too large it will bog down.
10" wheels should work with appropriate tires, that will cost $800 or so.

I think if you get a new pack and keep it charged all the time with the BM or solar, you can get even more miles, and the pack will last 6+ years.

We'll let Al chime in here with his more specific info.

:gc:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-01-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 514828)
Ok, I don't think Al is using 8x8volt, that would be a 54volt pack all his data shows 48, I guess they (two extra) are for accessories.

Al can tell you how he fitted those extra battery's better than I,
but it appears to have a lift kit and larger wheels/tires, this adds to the distance it will go, but if you go too large it will bog down.
10" wheels should work with appropriate tires, that will cost 800-1,000.

I think if you get a new pack and keep it charged all the time with the BM or solar, you can get even more miles, and the pack will last 6+ years.

We'll let Al chime in here with his more specific info.

:gc:

If I'm not mistaken, Al has converted his cart from six 8-volt batteries to eight 6-volt batteries. That configuration is supposed to get more miles. My battery pack is less than two years old and I keep it charged all the time.
I don't understand what this battery minder is all about. I used to manage fleets of golf carts. I had a fleet of the DS 48 volt cart when it first came out and the computer in the cart kept the batteries charged as long as they were plugged in. If the charged dipped below a certain level computer would kick the charger on until the batteries were fully charged and then shut it off. A few years later I had a fleet of Precedents and it was the same story. All you had to do was keep the charger plugged in and the cart computer did the rest.

jimbo2012 07-01-2012 12:27 PM

Agree, the BM as I understand it is just when you're away for several weeks or months rather than leave your charger plugged in.

how many miles can you go now until you get to 50% charge or 48.5 volts?

ajbrown 07-01-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 514643)
Your cart appears to have larger wheels than standard. Does it also have an upgraded suspension system? What did you have to do to get the 8 six volt batteries in? I have a 2002 Club Car Ds and would love to upgrade it and be able to get that kind of mileage. Warning, I am pretty much a fill and go guy as you call us. I am not interested in spending hours maintaining my cart.

If I used the 'gas and go' it was in jest; I hope it came across that way.

These are 10 inch wheels with 205-65-10 tires. This setup will fit the DS on the rear with no adjustments. Many people do just the rear to gain about 10% speed. There must be a loss of tourque, but I cannot tell.

I went with front and back because I liked the look. I used a three inch spindle lift kit from Jake's ($300) and I got the wheels/tires from Golf Cart Guy on 441 ($400).

I documented how I added 2 batteries. The thread is long but a couple of posts show the basic design:
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...tteries-38887/


My Dad and his friend just added two batteries to their DS carts. They used a different option and it came out great. I will see if I can find some pictured if you are interested. I had planned to create a thread showing the design, but life gets in the way :beer3:

We are about to get a pretty good thunderstorm (severe) where I am in MA, so I will leave you with that long and boring thread and come back later.

rubicon 07-01-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 514841)
If I'm not mistaken, Al has converted his cart from six 8-volt batteries to eight 6-volt batteries. That configuration is supposed to get more miles. My battery pack is less than two years old and I keep it charged all the time.
I don't understand what this battery minder is all about. I used to manage fleets of golf carts. I had a fleet of the DS 48 volt cart when it first came out and the computer in the cart kept the batteries charged as long as they were plugged in. If the charged dipped below a certain level computer would kick the charger on until the batteries were fully charged and then shut it off. A few years later I had a fleet of Precedents and it was the same story. All you had to do was keep the charger plugged in and the cart computer did the rest.

If someone has to leave for a month or so should he/she place the cart in "tow mode" in order to keep the battery from discharging?

jimbo2012 07-01-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 514970)
If someone has to leave for a month or so should he/she place the cart in "tow mode" in order to keep the battery from discharging?

The battery pack will still discharge in tow mode, put a digital meter on it.

From Trojan
Do batteries self-discharge when not in use?
"All batteries, regardless of their chemistry, self-discharge. The rate of self-discharge depends on the type of battery, the age of the battery, and the storage temperature the batteries are exposed to. As an estimate, Trojan batteries self-discharge approximately 4% per week at 80o F. "

That's the application for a trickle charger.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-01-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 514846)
Agree, the BM as I understand it is just when you're away for several weeks or months rather than leave your charger plugged in.

how many miles can you go now until you get to 50% charge or 48.5 volts?

I haven't check my mileage, but I think I've gone over 25 in a day. I've gotten in the habit of plugging in every time I come home so I really haven't pushed the batteries as far as they can go except once. I live in Silver Lake and I was returning from LSL after a day of running around. I didn't record my mileage, but I almost didn't make it over the golf cart bridge. Since that experience we got in the habit of plugging in whenever we're home.

What's the problem with just leaving your cart plugged in if you're gone for several weeks or months. When I was in the golf business we left them plugged in all winter.


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