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Old 09-16-2020, 12:06 PM
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Fake news...please explain.
On page 3 of the restated property report...which the developer prepared and states on the first page..."The
developer is responsible for for the accuracy and completeness of this report"....it states in paragraph two..
page 3 "All of the recreational facilities in The Villages, INCLUDING THE GOLF COURSES, swimming pools...etc....are initially owned and maintained by the developer..."
The definition of "perpetuate" (as noted on then page 16 as noted earlier) is "to continue indefinitely".
What that would mean to most folks....is that the developer in writing stated to the State Of Connecticut; that they (developer) would indefinitely maintain the golf courses and recreational facilities.
Please explain...fake news...
Doesn't it state "developer OR his designee?" That means the amenities when transferred from the developer go to a "designee" in legal terms.

Restaurants are NOT amenities or rec facilities.

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When someone is appointed a designee, it does not relieve the entity who made the appointment of continued legal responsibility.
Secondly...as previously mentioned....it stated...in writing......in the 2003-2004 The Villages Our Hometown sales brochure ..." Have a cozy dinner at one of our country clubs. Each features a distinctive menu and ambiance from fine gourmet dining to Caribbean island fare"...Again....in writing that you requested, and ties in with the restated property report.
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...fake news...

Your statement: the developer in writing...noted all country club property with their restaurants...pools...tennis facilities...and so on would be available for a lifetime for property owners in The Villages.



They did not promise how many, or which facilities.
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Old 09-16-2020, 01:20 PM
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Suggest you contact the State of Connecticut or other States for a copy of the Restated property Report filed by the developer. In the Connecticut restated report...the 5 Championship courses are mentioned on page 3 paragraph 3 (included Hacienda); also question (c) on page 19 reflects the 5 courses as well as the then 13 nine hole courses; and again the executive and championship courses are mentioned on page 20 under item 17; and page 21 under recreation; and so on....
Hope this enlightens you.
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Old 09-16-2020, 01:25 PM
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Suggest you contact the State of Connecticut or other States for a copy of the Restated property Report filed by the developer. In the Connecticut restated report...the 5 Championship courses are mentioned on page 3 paragraph 3 (included Hacienda); also question (c) on page 19 reflects the 5 courses as well as the then 13 nine hole courses; and again the executive and championship courses are mentioned on page 20 under item 17; and page 21 under recreation; and so on....
Hope this enlightens you.
Thank you for proving the document refers to golf courses (which remain), not country clubs (restaurants). It is what it is, and all your want-to ain't gonna change it.

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Old 09-16-2020, 02:03 PM
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Not sure of what you are sharing.?????? The report refers to the five regulation courses...and then goes on to explain the CHAMPIONSHIP Priority memberships...etc on page 3. does the same on the other pages. The dining is self explanatory and written up in the developer's sales brochure.

And as an additional thought....and not sure how it plays to what they may do with the HH CC property....the restated report filed with the State of Connecticut ...under part VII...ADDITIONAL INFORMATION states under line number 37. How many units in each building? Developer's answer " One detached single-family home may be constructed on each lot in the Villages".and line 39 states..'The units are intended for and restricted solely to single-family home usage".

Just wonder what impact this might have with a multiplex building......when all new Villages owners were restricted to a single family unit. Is it a double standard ? And why impose restrictions and standards, if they are not to be followed.

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Just as a follow up. Looked thru some of our closing material and found "The Villages Golf and Country Club Living" (dated...Revised 11/20/02)......"All Residents enjoy free Country Club Membership As a resident of the Villages you are automatically entitled to FREE membership in our country clubs"........and it goes on to say......"This free resident membership allows you to DINE in the country clubs,....etc.". Just another written sales tool manufactured by the developer.
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Just as a follow up. Looked thru some of our closing material and found "The Villages Golf and Country Club Living" (dated...Revised 11/20/02)......"All Residents enjoy free Country Club Membership As a resident of the Villages you are automatically entitled to FREE membership in our country clubs"........and it goes on to say......"This free resident membership allows you to DINE in the country clubs,....etc.". Just another written sales tool manufactured by the developer.
There are still "Country Clubs" to dine. A restaurant on a golf course IMO is not a Country Club. The restaurants are open to the public along with the golf courses. There is no membership.
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Just as a follow up. Looked thru some of our closing material and found "The Villages Golf and Country Club Living" (dated...Revised 11/20/02)......"All Residents enjoy free Country Club Membership As a resident of the Villages you are automatically entitled to FREE membership in our country clubs"........and it goes on to say......"This free resident membership allows you to DINE in the country clubs,....etc.". Just another written sales tool manufactured by the developer.
Yup, a sales tool and and absolutely useless. They actually are no memberships to the country clubs. They are open to the public restaurants not private country clubs.
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Or even better. It'll have golf course views on some sides, much to the disappointment of about 50 chronic complainers ( most of whom don't really have a dog in the fight, they just like to bitch. It's their hobby).
Well, it takes a much better person to voice concerns about current events effecting fellow Villagers lifestyles than it does to perpetually gripe about other people’s opinions.
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It’s our understanding that it will be a 9 hole course
According to my plumber’s daughter who does nails in TV, your hair dresser’s cousin is wrong. All 36 holes remain.
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