[swooner]

deplorable

[kkingston57]

Agree 100%. This course needs a complete re grassing, similar to the grass at Glenview.

After Hacienda was built new grass has been developed which is more suitable for the conditions at Hacienda(a lot of trees and consequently less sun).

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

After Hacienda was built new grass has been developed which is more suitable for the conditions at Hacienda(a lot of trees and consequently less sun).

FINALLY, developing good grass for shaded golf courses....................I hated the condition of Augusta.

[tophcfa]

Holes 2 through 7 on the Oaks aren’t that bad, it’s the 1st and 9th holes that are deplorable. Those are the hole that USED TO have a view of a clubhouse including a pro shop, restaurant, pool/bar, and tennis courts.

[Jokomo]

Deplorable conditions, along with removal of proshop, pool and restaurant, leads to low play numbers. Low play numbers lead to low profit numbers. Low profit or loss from golf course operations leads to alternative land use. All the decisions made about this property over the last two years lead to the conclusion that the course will be closed in the future. Now that Southern Oaks is open all the advertising about the number of championship holes and courses remain true even if Hacienda closes.

[UpNorth]

A few bucks cheaper to play than the other courses. But like the other courses, way overpriced. And bring your own golf cart.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Jokomo

Deplorable conditions, along with removal of proshop, pool and restaurant, leads to low play numbers. Low play numbers lead to low profit numbers. Low profit or loss from golf course operations leads to alternative land use. All the decisions made about this property over the last two years lead to the conclusion that the course will be closed in the future. Now that Southern Oaks is open all the advertising about the number of championship holes and courses remain true even if Hacienda closes.

Fortunately alternative land uses are severely restricted since courses are designed as emergency flood plains. Also Hacienda is 27 holes and Southern Oaks is only 18.

[kkingston57]

[QUOTE=dewilson58;2047005]FINALLY, developing good grass for shaded golf courses....................I hated the condition of Augusta.

At this point I ? if TV would PAY for the remodeling that is sorely needed.

Bet there are more people playing Hacienda in a month than entire year at Augusta and a lot less carts out there.

Sure you enjoyed the experience. It is on the dream bucket list for me.

[clekr]

Agree with Jokomo. The horrible conditions are deliberate.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

FINALLY, developing good grass for shaded golf courses....................I hated the condition of Augusta.

If only every golf course had the budget of Augusta National.

[wamley]

The plan is working. Show lack of use and than show reason for conversion to Apps.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by swooner

deplorable

Haven't been there in 6 months for that very reason. The worst was actually the practice green at that time. My golfing buddy was able to quip "they should have kept the clubhouse and demolished the practice green"

[fnhski]

I would agree ,hacienda hills used to be,key word used to be a very nice course,two tree lined nines and the palms offset each other,how can you as a developer tear down a club house at this corse,no restroom,except starter shack,can’t buy balls,tees,soft goods,put the starter on the spot to have members pay at the window?????I believe as others do it will be torn down to make way for condo,s or apartments,,,just what we need a higher density of people on that stretch of Morse ….the current generation of developers care nothing about up keep of current or older recreational facilities….it’s just greed..to quote mr.gecko…”greed is good”….this corse should be preserved and rebuilt….and there should be a residents golf association so your voices and suggestion can be heard….

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

If only every golf course had the budget of Augusta National.

So true. Maintained weekly and used a couple of weeks a year.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fnhski

I would agree ,hacienda hills used to be,key word used to be a very nice course,two tree lined nines and the palms offset each other,how can you as a developer tear down a club house at this corse,no restroom,except starter shack,can’t buy balls,tees,soft goods,put the starter on the spot to have members pay at the window?????I believe as others do it will be torn down to make way for condo,s or apartments,,,just what we need a higher density of people on that stretch of Morse ….the current generation of developers care nothing about up keep of current or older recreational facilities….it’s just greed..to quote mr.gecko…”greed is good”….this corse should be preserved and rebuilt….and there should be a residents golf association so your voices and suggestion can be heard….

Is the comma key on your keyboard sticky?????? (among other things)