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BrianL99 02-25-2024 07:20 AM
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Farm Neck in Oak Bluffs? Love that course.
No.

Farm Neck is a great course to play. I've played it 100's of times.

Edgartown Golf Club is pretty great too, although it's really only a 14 hole golf course and private.

Vineyard Golf Club is the newer, more private course, that had a permit that required it be 100% Organic. Didn't work.

Farm Neck was Bill Clinton's favorite golf course, until he and some of his friends (Owen Larkin & others), came up with a scam to build Vineyard Golf Club, so they had their own course to play on. Gil Hanse renovated the club about 8-10 years ago and I understand it's now a decent course. Golf Magazine voted it Best New Course in the US, back in 2015. The original design was uninspiring.

BrianL99 02-25-2024 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 2304932)
You could have heard that from your barber, just as factual as 2 TV employees
To my knowledge, my barber has never lied to me.

mkjelenbaas 02-25-2024 08:04 AM
Go to Harbor shills - less money and Great conditions!!

dewilson58 02-25-2024 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2304966)
Go to Harbor shills - less money and Great conditions!!
That's a huge turn-around.............the conditions have been poor for years.

Patchy greens, dirt/mud cart paths, sandless sand-traps & a crabby guy behind the counter in the pro shop.

:shrug:

waynet 02-25-2024 09:25 AM
Been here for 10 years on this site for 7 of them. Have never seen more complaining about conditions on the golf courses. Where is Ricky Craig when we need him although we did meet with him a few years ago to express our displeasure with Havana and all he did was lie to us. Havana still is awful and he has done nothing to make improvements.

sdeikenberry 02-25-2024 10:02 AM
To all you newbie Villagers: After you're here a short while you'll learn which championship courses to avoid in the winter and again in the summer. Havana, for example, has ALWAYS had issues in the middle/late winter months. Lopez, for example, has rough that eats your ball up in the late summer. Glenview, for example, is usually always in good condition. Palmer, for example, Cherry Hill gets bad, Riley and Laurel usually stay OK. There are different soils at different courses around TV and they affect the course conditions dramatically. Remember it's winter...you cannot expect summer conditions in the winter. Just learn what to avoid when and you'll be fine.

BrianL99 02-25-2024 10:05 AM
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Go to Harbor shills - less money and Great conditions!!
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2304978)
That's a huge turn-around.............the conditions have been poor for years.

Patchy greens, dirt/mud cart paths, sandless sand-traps & a crabby guy behind the counter in the pro shop.

:shrug:
After hearing so much about Harbor Hills, I went and played it 2 weeks ago.

There are 2 or 3 courses on campus, in significantly better condition than Harbor Hills was in, when I played it. It is a little more interesting golf course, than some of the on campus courses.

bobmarc 02-25-2024 10:30 AM
All this talk about winter conditions....The Daily Sun just had an article about this winter having more rain than usual so lack of water should not be an issue and, as far as I know, we have not had a single frost this winter. My conclusion is: lack of spending necessary money by TV to make conditions better and incompetence on the staff of maintenance.

waynet 02-25-2024 10:36 AM
It continues to amaze me how some people will make excuses for poor conditions on some of these courses. Too hot ,too cold, no rain, too much rain and on and on. Your right grass does not grow in the winter then why are the mowers out. It can rain all day yet the next morning the sprinklers are on. Could it be that the Villages hires the lowest bid and gets people that have no idea what they are doing. Just look at Palmer, the greens are just 3 years old and they have just about killed them because of over watering. Inept plus no real supervision by the powers above leads to these conditions

Joanne&Wynn 02-25-2024 11:30 AM
Along with explosive growth comes the need for an equal amount of on-going maintenance, which apparently has not been planned and budgeted for.

Scudder 02-25-2024 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2304412)
Played Kilimanjaro to Kenya today. The practice green was an atrocious mess, but the real greens were even worse.

The first green on Kilimanjaro actually had so much sand on it you could see the tire tread marks from the utility cart in it.

I'm generally an apologist for the conditions of the courses here in TV, based upon what I think is a decent product for the price, but this course shouldn't even be open. Or, at the very least, if they are going to charge greens fees to play it, it should be discounted 50%.

I would bet money that they don't have Lifestyle Visit guests scheduled on it. No way the developer would want any prospective buyers seeing that mess.

It continues to perplex me beyond imagination how that place always has terrible greens, in the same climate and growing conditions that other courses in TV have. They are always the worst of the Championship courses, but the current condition is off the charts bad.
Calling out golf courses “championship” instead of “regulation courses” is almost as ridiculous as The Villages calling itself Americas Healthiest Hometown

BrianL99 02-25-2024 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Scudder (Post 2305083)
Calling out golf courses “championship” instead of “regulation courses” is almost as ridiculous as The Villages calling itself Americas Healthiest Hometown
Come on, The Villages has figured out a way to get everyone in town, to call their original trailer park, the "Historic District".

They're masters of over-statement and marketing slogans.

JMintzer 02-25-2024 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2304944)
To my knowledge, my barber has never lied to me.
I'm sure he tells you your haircut makes you look better... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

tophcfa 02-25-2024 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Scudder (Post 2305083)
Calling out golf courses “championship” instead of “regulation courses” is almost as ridiculous as The Villages calling itself Americas Healthiest Hometown
With all the physical activities available in the Villages it actually is Americas Healthiest Hometown, right up to the point when you need good quality healthcare.

bobmarc 02-26-2024 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Scudder (Post 2305083)
Calling out golf courses “championship” instead of “regulation courses” is almost as ridiculous as The Villages calling itself Americas Healthiest Hometown
....or "Florida's Friendliest Hometown". (Just read Villages_News.com):police:


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