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Old 11-15-2013, 07:45 PM
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All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions were his own, but they shared everything they had.

That sounds almost like a definition of communalism at its finest.
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Do you wish health and happiness on all regardless of their social status or the amount in their bank account? If YES you are a child of GOD. Jesus was in theory a socialist. Do not be drawn to the dark side by believing that being POOR means you are lazy. By the grace of god be thankful for what you have and reach out to help those not as fortunate as you.




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you are saying that if you are charitable you are a Christian. did you mean to say that?... that's not in the Bible or the or the Torah or the Vedas/Hindu Scriptures...where do you get that?
Are you saying any charitable Jew is a Christian? a charitable hindu is a Christian and likewise a charitable atheist? Are you saying Jesus had no Godly attributes or calling but to show how to love your neighbor?
I hate to disagree cuz I like you but if you really meant to say what you said, I would like to talk to you about what it takes to be a Christian, so pm me if interested.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:11 PM
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This thread is heading in a bad direction. It will get nasty. Just a few more posts
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Yes, I am a Christian.

Amen!
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I am a Christian and I know the only command for giving in the NT is found in Corinthians and it says "Every man according as he purposes in his heart so let him give, not grudgingly or of necessity for God loves a cheerful giver." 2 Cor 9:7

There are many Scriptures that do say that laziness brings poverty such as "He becomes poor that deals with a slack hand but the hand of the diligent makes rich." Proverbs 10:4

"Slothfulness casts into a deep sleep and an idle soul shall suffer hunger...Proverbs 19:15

"The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; therefore shall he beg in harvest and have nothing." Prov 20:4

As far as Jesus being a Socialist I see that nowhere in Scripture. In fact he says if a man does not work he does not eat...and the poor you will always have with you. Never ever is there a command to take from the rich and give to the poor.
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Well, if a man judges another man in any way, he is defying the teachings of Jesus.
Wow!?!? Really? Perhaps you should read your reply to me.

I will be bowing out of this thread. No good can come from it. You asked your question rhetorically. You are not interested in any one else's reply you would rather just sit in judgement of other.
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Well, if a man judges another man in any way, he is defying the teachings of Jesus.
this is NOT a biblical statement...in fact Jesus said quite plainly:

"Judge not according to the appearance BUT judge righteous judgment." John 7:24

We all make judgments and when it comes to church discipline judgments have to be made. There is one command that says that we are NOT to socialize or even eat with a brother under church discipline. In order for a member to be disciplined judgment has to be made. The admonition is to NOT judge hypocritically or maliciously Matthew 7:1. Jesus advises us to judge righteously.

sorry Golfingnut but you're getting some very bad teaching NOT according to the Scriptures.
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A true Christian does not assume others give less than he does, and a true Christian does not announce his "superiority" over others, in helping the needy.

Matthew 6
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Giving to the Needy

6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

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5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

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I have to try again to say this...the very reason for Christ's death is that we are wholly unable to obtain status with God by good works, a truth which seems diametrically the opposite of the assertion made in the original post as to what makes one a Christian.
A Christian comes to God only upon realizing that "all our righteousness is as filthy rags". We are utterly dependent on the mercy of God to love us in spite of how we are, won by Christ on our behalf.
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I have not read a post above that is in line with what I MEANT about Christianity.

I see more greed, hatred of others, selfishness, prejudice, and lying among people with a cross hanging around their neck than I do among the few atheists that I know. So, what I meant to say was, if you can see any of those traits in yourself, I would suggest reconsidering just how far you are from being a devout Christian. I AM NOT JUDGING ANYONE, I am suggesting that you judge yourself.

PS: I would prefer to hear others opinions on this and not misinterpretations of what some think I meant.
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