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Old 11-16-2013, 06:55 AM
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I recognize that what I think is not the only way to think. Yes, there are selfish people, but there are so many good people who try to do what God wants them to do, whatever they perceive that to be. In my experience, those who put themselves in pulpits usually err.

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Christianity is not a synonym for morality. In the spiritual realm there are basically 4 types of people:
1) the natural man--is not interested in having a relationship with God
2) the mature spiritual man--has a relationship with God and increasingly manifests the fruit of the spirit (e.g., love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, etc.) as his relationship with God deepens
3) fleshen spiritual man--has a relationship with God that's just beginning, spiritual babe
4) fleshly spiritual man--has a relationship with God, but behaves carnally. This type is often outwardly indistinguishable from the natural man, the difference being the fleshly man has a relationship with God and the natural man does not.
Christianity is not a matter of moral vs. immoral, it is a matter of relationship with God vs. no relationship with God. Jesus declared the only way to have a relationship with God is through Him--Christianity accepts this declaration as the most critical and pivotal point in all of human history, past, present, and future.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:40 AM
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I have not read a post above that is in line with what I MEANT about Christianity.

I see more greed, hatred of others, selfishness, prejudice, and lying among people with a cross hanging around their neck than I do among the few atheists that I know. So, what I meant to say was, if you can see any of those traits in yourself, I would suggest reconsidering just how far you are from being a devout Christian. I AM NOT JUDGING ANYONE, I am suggesting that you judge yourself.

PS: I would prefer to hear others opinions on this and not misinterpretations of what some think I meant.
Now that you have said what you meant clearly...I am in a community of believers who are genuine, caring, generous, accepting, loving, actively seeking God, praying, giving, ministering to each other and reaching out.
I agree that much of what calls itself Christianity has lost its heart. It has been a long time since I was in a fellowship like this and I am wholly grateful.
I also know many people who are not believers whom I consider to be kind, generous and loving.
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How about just being a good human being whatever your religious leanings, or lack thereof.
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Being a good person is not limited to those who believe in Christ.

There are many non-Christians, who believe in a Higher Power, who are spiritual, generous, kind, supportive, genuine, caring, accepting, loving, praying, giving, ministering to each other and reaching out. And wishing health and happiness to all regardless of their social status or the amount in their bank account.
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How about just being a good human being whatever your religious leanings, or lack thereof.
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Being a good person is not limited to those who believe in Christ.

There are many non-Christians, who believe in a Higher Power, who are spiritual, generous, kind, supportive, genuine, caring, accepting, loving, praying, giving, ministering to each other and reaching out. And wishing health and happiness to all regardless of their social status or the amount in their bank account.

Agree, 100%.

I got on this high horse due to an incident very recently in which I made a favorable comment about one of our leaders in Washington and then was given quite the long verbal assault as the gentleman spit out the N word three times in one sentence. That said, the part I cannot seem to shake off is the visual of the gold chain and cross so prominently displayed on the outside of his shirt at mid chest.

Only my opinion, but that strong language and especially the use of the N word does not fit the guidelines of being a Christian as I understand it.
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Yes. Some christians believe that you should have unquestioned belief in the trinty and you are saved by your faith, not works and deeds. I feel that all relegions are trying to love GOD in their own way. However, one gets to heaven, is determined by GOD and no one should judge another person. We are all judged by GOD, at the end of our days.

GOD"s greatest commandmant is to love your GOD with all of your heart.

God's second greatest commandent is, "love another as I have you loved you".

My favorite saying is, "let us not grow wearly while doing good, as we will reap in due season, if we do not lose heart". Galations: 5:13.

I believe all people of different religions, strive to be the best person they can be and want to gain entrance, to heaven. They may take different roads to get there, but they will get there.
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Agree, 100%.

I got on this high horse due to an incident very recently in which I made a favorable comment about one of our leaders in Washington and then was given quite the long verbal assault as the gentleman spit out the N word three times in one sentence. That said, the part I cannot seem to shake off is the visual of the gold chain and cross so prominently displayed on the outside of his shirt at mid chest.

Only my opinion, but that strong language and especially the use of the N word does not fit the guidelines of being a Christian as I understand it.
Sorry to hear about that experience. In my own life experiences I have found very little correlation between the faith someone professes and how they actually treat other people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 Notice that the promise of life eternal has nothing to do with how one conducts their lives probably also a good reason why you find John 3:16 so often in prisons around the world and especially on Death Row.
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Agree, 100%.

I got on this high horse due to an incident very recently in which I made a favorable comment about one of our leaders in Washington and then was given quite the long verbal assault as the gentleman spit out the N word three times in one sentence. That said, the part I cannot seem to shake off is the visual of the gold chain and cross so prominently displayed on the outside of his shirt at mid chest.

Only my opinion, but that strong language and especially the use of the N word does not fit the guidelines of being a Christian as I understand it.
Golfingnut and Barefoot - I agree with both of you. I too had a similar experience with a very religious person who kept using the "n" word. Very hateful, and is one of many incidences that has turned me off to religion. I do believe the 10 commandments are a great set of rules to live by, and I try to do so in my life, but I am not a fan of organized religion.
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