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Sparky99 05-26-2025 07:15 AM

Do a search for antenna or OTA channels. Install a roof antenna.

MacScuba 05-26-2025 07:31 AM

We got a package from Spectrum that gives Internet plus a dozen “regular” cable channels like ESPN using the Spectrum app on the smart TV . So still no cable box.

Tvflguy 05-26-2025 07:36 AM

Is there a Villages Cord Cutters Club?

Well all 3 of my "kids" (in their 40's 50's now) were Cesarean. Back then the docs would not let the father go into the op room. That said, I can't comment on the topic.

But, considering the age of couples in TV, why would the Op want to know about a club as that???

Bill14564 05-26-2025 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2434107)
True they can't stop you from installing an antenna but you need to get permission on where to put it, meaning the CCD or HOA can regulate where you can and can't put a dish or any other antenna. For example, can't bolt an antenna on the front window frame of your house but the side is probably fine.

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2434126)
The FCC would disagree partially. A sat dish needs a clear view of the sky. If that path is blocked by neighbor's tree, it won't work properly. So location there is not possible.
A over the air antenna works best if there are no obstructions between you and the TV tower. If ARC says put is where it points directly into your neighbor's roof, that may not work properly. You have the FCC on your side because the law says you put it where it needs to go so that it works properly.
ARC cannot block locating it where it works best, no matter where that location might be. Even if that happens to be on a tall tower.

The FCC page on OTA Devices Rule has a useful Q and A section. Search for the question that begins:
Q: What restrictions prevent reception of transmission of an acceptable quality signal? Can a homeowners association or other restricting entity establish enforceable preferences for antenna locations?

A: Enforceable placement preferences must be clearly articulated in writing and made available to all residents of the community in question. ...
The ARC CAN block locating it from where it works *best*. What they cannot do is block locating it from where it works *acceptably*.

MikeVillages 05-26-2025 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2434086)
Why not stay "back up North", where you get free TV and your wants aren't in conflict with the community standards of The Villages?

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Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2434107)
... you need to get permission on where to put it, meaning the CCD or HOA can regulate where you can and can't put a dish or any other antenna. For example, can't bolt an antenna on the front window frame of your house but the side is probably fine.

FAUSE! Read the federal law. The FCC law clearly states a CCD, HMO, ect cannot forbid nor require pre-approval for an antenna or dish use for OTA television. The FCC has examples such as a dish on the front roof where they tried to fine a homeowner. The homeowner sent the information to the FCC and the HMO lost. Just follow the FCC rules and there is nothing “community standards" can do.

Flanman 05-26-2025 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2433691)
Does anyone have any information regarding this topic? I thought there was a person or club here in the Villages where they would give people who were interested factual information on the topic?

The reason why I'm interested is because as people move to the Villages, we are seeing a different generation of individuals who already stream and only need internet service vs a cable box system. But there are still many who come from a generation of cable TV with cable boxes, want to reduce their monthy bill and need help understanding what streaming is and how to make the transition if they want to.

If you don’t mind paying $50 for two 1-hour sessions, there is a very informative class (A Roadmap for Cutting the Cord) offered by the enrichment academy that walks you through the whole process. I don’t see one coming up soon, but you can call Tony Crawford at 352-321-7845 for info.

BrianL99 05-26-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2434156)
FAUSE! Read the federal law. The FCC law clearly states a CCD, HMO, ect cannot forbid nor require pre-approval for an antenna or dish use for OTA television. The FCC has examples such as a dish on the front roof where they tried to fine a homeowner. The homeowner sent the information to the FCC and the HMO lost. Just follow the FCC rules and there is nothing “community standards" can do.


I didn't say you couldn't put up an Antenna to receive OTA TV signals. I suggested it's not in keeping with the community standards of The Villages, as proven by the Developer's attempt to prohibit it.

There are many things that are "legal", but not in keeping with the standards a community would like to maintain.

.... like not putting clothes-lines in yards.

Some folks, just don't care if their neighborhood looks like a ghetto ... most do.

MikeVillages 05-26-2025 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Larryandlinda (Post 2434034)
We have not had cable ‘ back up north’ since the 80’s and have rooftop rabbit ears that get 100 OTA stations from DC and Baltimore.
In TV we have one in the attic but may add a tower up top of the roof - while ‘the covenants’ in TV say no aerials , the FCC (for now) says sorry Mr developer , you can’t do anything to restrict deceiving a broadcast signal.
Same with our clothesline - the environmental departments of the gov say the developer can’t interfere with something that helps keep the planet cleaner ( and our clothing fresher)

It may be best to have a professional installer. We live in a fringe area so it is important to get a good high antenna for best reception. As you said. The FCC law states they have the requirements for antenna & installation placement for OTA, not a developer. HOWEVER, installers don’t usually ground the coax nor the mask as required by code. I ended up grounding myself as it is easy to google the grounding requirements. You can talk to the installer beforehand. But get the full price as they like to give a base price but upgrade when they come to your home, which they know you needed in the first price.

MikeVillages 05-26-2025 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2434086)
Why not stay "back up North", where you get free TV and your wants aren't in conflict with the community standards of The Villages?

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2434191)
There are many things that are "legal", but not in keeping with the standards a community would like to maintain.

“Community Standards" has no power over the law like placement of an OTA tv antenna as stated in the FCC law. Just follow the law.

Bill14564 05-26-2025 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2434212)
“Community Standards" has no power over the law like placement of an OTA tv antenna as stated in the FCC law. Just follow the law.

The FCC *does* allow some placement restrictions. See the FCC page linked in post #44.

DonnaNi4os 05-26-2025 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2433803)
Exactly, ask the grandkids. We only have internet service. The grandkids explained apps we can add to our smart TV or phone. Tubi, a free app, provides us with free fox news.
The app also has hundreds of movies and older TV shows to choose from.

We pay $4.99 for the CBS (Paramount) app. This is primarily for a second source of daily news. Much needed during hurricane season.

We downloaded the ABC and NBC apps plus a few others. We do not pay for these. The current shows on these apps are free a few days after original airing. We usually are not home to watch much TV. We do not mind the wait.

You mentioned the Paramount channel. I have Paramount+ not Paramount. I was wondering if you get the local CBS Orlando station on Paramount?? Thanks in advance.

BrianL99 05-26-2025 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2434212)
“Community Standards" has no power over the law like placement of an OTA tv antenna as stated in the FCC law. Just follow the law.


We're talking apples and oranges.

You're talking about "The Villages Community Standards", I'm talking about "community standard" as it applies to most every non-ghetto community.

Apparently some folks think The Villages should have no community standards, particularly folks who sell things, that are likely to diverge from what most folks think is appropriate.

margaretmattson 05-26-2025 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2434257)
You mentioned the Paramount channel. I have Paramount+ not Paramount. I was wondering if you get the local CBS Orlando station on Paramount?? Thanks in advance.

We watch a variety of Fox news channels on Tubi. (Orlando, Tampa, Atlanta, Houston, Los Angeles, New York...) We switch cities depending on current events. For example: watching news about wild fires is better on the Los Angeles, immigration better on Texas channels, riots better on Chicago station etc. If we are planning to travel, we watch weather info that is broadcast from that city. We use Fox news every day. Tubi is a FREE app.

On paramount, we have had no
problems getting CBS national news. Local CBS is hit or miss. During a hurricane, Orlando and Tampa usually air without interference.

I do not watch much TV. Hubby likes to watch sports occasionally. Maybe, another poster can provide more info about streaming local news.

Thanks to the OP who posted about Walmart. Paramount is included with the $12.95 monthly fee for deliveries. We only pay $4.99/ month for Paramount, but a penny saved is a penny earned.

MikeVillages 05-27-2025 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2434212)
“Community Standards" has no power over the law like placement of an OTA tv antenna as stated in the FCC law. Just follow the law.

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2434300)
We're talking apples and oranges.

You're talking about "The Villages Community Standards", I'm talking about "community standard" as it applies to most every non-ghetto community.

Apparently some folks think The Villages should have no community standards, particularly folks who sell things, that are likely to diverge from what most folks think is appropriate.

Disagree, your opinion does not override the rights of the public but if you feel so strongly about it, send letters to congress to change the law.

BrianL99 05-27-2025 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2434383)
Disagree, your opinion does not override the rights of the public but if you feel so strongly about it, send letters to congress to change the law.

I just don't think it's a very attractive "look", but you and your customers are surely entitled to disagree.

MikeVillages 05-27-2025 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2434212)
“Community Standards" has no power over the law like placement of an OTA tv antenna as stated in the FCC law. Just follow the law.

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2434300)
We're talking apples and oranges.

You're talking about "The Villages Community Standards", I'm talking about "community standard" as it applies to most every non-ghetto community.

Apparently some folks think The Villages should have no community standards, particularly folks who sell things, that are likely to diverge from what most folks think is appropriate.

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Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2434383)
Disagree, your opinion does not override the rights of the public but if you feel so strongly about it, send letters to congress to change the law.

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2434421)
I just don't think it's a very attractive "look", but you and your customers are surely entitled to disagree.

You are misinformed, I have no customers & do not install antennas. So you are going to write Congress to change the law?

Topspinmo 05-27-2025 04:50 PM

I’m too old try cut cord of wood….so that’s no go club for me…:throwtomatoes:

Topspinmo 05-27-2025 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2434191)
I didn't say you couldn't put up an Antenna to receive OTA TV signals. I suggested it's not in keeping with the community standards of The Villages, as proven by the Developer's attempt to prohibit it.

There are many things that are "legal", but not in keeping with the standards a community would like to maintain.

.... like not putting clothes-lines in yards.

Some folks, just don't care if their neighborhood looks like a ghetto ... most do.


It’s know fact only certain restrictions are enforced.

BrianL99 05-27-2025 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2434435)
You are misinformed, I have no customers & do not install antennas. So you are going to write Congress to change the law?

No, I'm not "misinformed".

& there's no changing of the law that's going to happen, anytime soon.

One can only hope that residents of The Villages show a little class and not transform every neighborhood into a ghetto.

Antennas on roofs, cars parked in the street or in driveways, "give aways" at the end of driveways, renting out individual rooms. About the only thing missing, is a car "up on blocks" and a stovepipe, coming out the back door.

Topspinmo 05-27-2025 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2434554)
No, I'm not "misinformed".

& there's no changing of the law that's going to happen, anytime soon.

One can only hope that residents of The Villages show a little class and not transform every neighborhood into a ghetto.

Antennas on roofs, cars parked in the street or in driveways, "give aways" at the end of driveways, renting out individual rooms. About the only thing missing, is a car "up on blocks" and a stovepipe, coming out the back door.


Well might as get use to antennas cause there NOTHING villages or residents can do about it. Besides who goes around looking up at roofs? Want see something trashy look up at solar panels. But just like your opinion mine don’t count either.

BrianL99 05-27-2025 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2434557)
Well might as get use to antennas cause there NOTHING villages or residents can do about it. Besides who goes around looking up at roofs? Want see something trashy look up at solar panels. But just like your opinion mine don’t count either.

It's not going to happen, because it's simply not practical.

If it was practical and save money, most every home in America would have a TV antenna.

OTA TV has gone the way of running boards, root beer & babydoll pajamas ... or if you prefer, Ice Men, coal deliveries and the Knife Sharpening Truck.


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