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buckscounty 08-15-2012 11:05 AM

He should of cried but not for himself.

eweissenbach 08-15-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by buckscounty (Post 540908)
He should of cried but not for himself.

Joe Posnanski, my favorite writer, had a very difficult task in writing this man's biography at this particular time. He started the book long before the revalations about Sandusky came to light, and no doubt had to change much of the tone of the book mid-stream. Posnanski generally gets very close to his subjects, such as Buck O'Neil, with whom he became almost like a grandson. This makes it even more difficult to write a balanced story when something like the Sandusky affair comes to light. I like to think that Paterno was a good man who did the right thing far more than most big-time coaches, but obviously failed when the biggest opportunity to stand tall came before him. It is really a tragic story for everyone, but especially the victims.

2BNTV 08-15-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 540913)
Joe Posnanski, my favorite writer, had a very difficult task in writing this man's biography at this particular time. He started the book long before the revalations about Sandusky came to light, and no doubt had to change much of the tone of the book mid-stream. Posnanski generally gets very close to his subjects, such as Buck O'Neil, with whom he became almost like a grandson. This makes it even more difficult to write a balanced story when something like the Sandusky affair comes to light. I like to think that Paterno was a good man who did the right thing far more than most big-time coaches, but obviously failed when the biggest opportunity to stand tall came before him. It is really a tragic story for everyone, but especially the victims.

Excellent post Ed. I like Joe's writing also.

You could be a writer yourself. Sadly, Joe could have avoided this tradgedy by calling the police. A good man who made one big mistake. My heart goes out to all the victims.

Joaniesmom 08-15-2012 04:59 PM

There are thousands of us who loved and admired Joe Paterno for years and years. He has done more kindnesses and good deeds that can ever be counted. Having said that, he made this one awful mistake. I am struggling to understand what was going on in his head and in his heart and suppose none of us will ever be able to figure that out. But I can't in all honesty just turn off all the love and respect I have for that man because of this. Perhaps I will have to think of him in the future with an asterisk (*) next to his name. In the long list of perverted and evil men who have stained our world, Joe Paterno is a long, long way from the bottom. Why don't I hear you blaming Jerry Sandusky?

bimmertl 08-15-2012 06:37 PM

Paterno made "one mistake". Unfortunately, it lasted for 14 years. He knew about the Sandusky issues in 1998, but did nothing. It could have ended in 98 if St. Joe did what any responsible adult would have done. Instead, his "one mistake" went on for 14 years.

I don't think that counts as "one mistake"!

2-crazy 08-15-2012 07:15 PM

Joe "who"

alemorkam 08-15-2012 08:32 PM

The put the statue in the library at Penn State. It is there to remind everyone to be quite

Taltarzac725 08-16-2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 541258)
Paterno made "one mistake". Unfortunately, it lasted for 14 years. He knew about the Sandusky issues in 1998, but did nothing. It could have ended in 98 if St. Joe did what any responsible adult would have done. Instead, his "one mistake" went on for 14 years.

I don't think that counts as "one mistake"!



Does seem like a lot more than "one mistake".

2BNTV 08-16-2012 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Joaniesmom (Post 541189)
There are thousands of us who loved and admired Joe Paterno for years and years. He has done more kindnesses and good deeds that can ever be counted. Having said that, he made this one awful mistake. I am struggling to understand what was going on in his head and in his heart and suppose none of us will ever be able to figure that out. But I can't in all honesty just turn off all the love and respect I have for that man because of this. Perhaps I will have to think of him in the future with an asterisk (*) next to his name. In the long list of perverted and evil men who have stained our world, Joe Paterno is a long, long way from the bottom. Why don't I hear you blaming Jerry Sandusky?

Excellent post.

I will never forgive Jerry Sandusky. He is evil incarnate. Preying on young people. He is the real evil person in this tradgedy. As far as I am concerned, when they lock him up, they should throw away the key.

I will read Joe Paterno's biography to try and understand him.

2BNTV 08-16-2012 08:02 AM

Article on Joe Pa's Biography.

Joe Paterno's final season at Penn State chronicled in controversial authorized biography 'Paterno' - NY Daily News

De Lis 08-16-2012 08:59 AM

..."and I have 12 grandchildren!" was he initial excuse. Would he have been as smug if Jerry had mentored one of them?

Monkei 11-21-2012 09:13 PM

Well we need to move on and congratulate the efforts of Coach O Brien and those players who stuck around for a very successful year at PSU when everyone was predicting doom and gloom.

graciegirl 11-21-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkei (Post 583905)
Well we need to move on and congratulate the efforts of Coach O Brien and those players who stuck around for a very successful year at PSU when everyone was predicting doom and gloom.

Many of us have a hard time "moving on" in the light of the fact that football was more important than what was happening there way too recently.

2BNTV 11-22-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkei (Post 583905)
Well we need to move on and congratulate the efforts of Coach O Brien and those players who stuck around for a very successful year at PSU when everyone was predicting doom and gloom.

O'Brien has done a wonderful job football wise. It has been noticed the football team will probably lose more games going forward because recruiting will be adversely affected from the scandals sanctions. It will be a while until the football programs really recovers althought they had an excellent year, this year.

I wonder how the victims are moving on?

Monkei 12-19-2012 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 584049)
O'Brien has done a wonderful job football wise. It has been noticed the football team will probably lose more games going forward because recruiting will be adversely affected from the scandals sanctions. It will be a while until the football programs really recovers althought they had an excellent year, this year.

I wonder how the victims are moving on?

Feel for the victims yes. But it seems to me that those involved are being prosecuted and dealt with in the proper way through the judicial system. What else would you have the university do? Why should the kids who had nothing to do with any of this pay a continuing price. There only violation was to come to a great university, get a great Big 10 education and play some football.


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