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Old 11-09-2011, 05:54 PM
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Didn't take them long to toss Joe Pa under the bus.
Joe knew of serious allegations in 2002. So if 9 years is not a long time than it didn't take long.

Of course during that time period of Holy Joe's inaction, additional children were molested.

Nice legacy!
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:31 PM
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I am a PSU Alumni, I feel Joe, Spanier and McQuery should be gone before nights end. Centre Daily Times reports that Sandusky was seen in the PSU sports facility as late as last week, no excuse for any of them IMHO.
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Joe knew of serious allegations in 2002. So if 9 years is not a long time than it didn't take long.

Of course during that time period of Holy Joe's inaction, additional children were molested.

Nice legacy!
He could always go into the Catholic priesthood. Heck, maybe he could get a nice little parish in Rome, his homeland, like Cardinal Law did after leaving his "legacy" in Boston.
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Joe knew of serious allegations in 2002. So if 9 years is not a long time than it didn't take long.

Of course during that time period of Holy Joe's inaction, additional children were molested.

Nice legacy!
Wow, this thread is getting mean spirited.
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He was fired tonight
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A coach is a teacher. A teacher must report child abuse to local law enforcement.


No matter what else he did. He failed to do that.


After all is said and done this is how Joe Paterno will be remembered.
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All I can say is - -- WOW

Go from the most respected College Football Coach with years and years of history to trashed and fired in a week!


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Ye who have no sin cast the first stone.

Joe Pa IS Penn State so any conflict that needs headlines will involve him.

Anybody know the heirarchy of University Security? There is protocol and only higher ups may involve outside agencies at their discretion. So some body comes to you and says they saw something happen as it relates to a previous employee. Protocol dictates that I report this to higher authorities in the chain of command, which he did. They investigate it and take control. Follow up? With all the othr responsibilities you think I have time to follow up?

Everybody is treating this as if Joe SAW the event and did nothing.... You make it sound like he did it NOT a former coach years removed. It IS horrific what happened but to tarnish a man for doing what he is instructed to do and follow the chain of command on hearsay, well you all have got it wrong!

Many other horrors were witnessed and not reported in Corporate and in the military ... That'sno excuse but it happens......
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Ye who have no sin cast the first stone.

Joe Pa IS Penn State so any conflict that needs headlines will involve him.

Anybody know the heirarchy of University Security? There is protocol and only higher ups may involve outside agencies at their discretion. So some body comes to you and says they saw something happen as it relates to a previous employee. Protocol dictates that I report this to higher authorities in the chain of command, which he did. They investigate it and take control. Follow up? With all the othr responsibilities you think I have time to follow up?

Everybody is treating this as if Joe SAW the event and did nothing.... You make it sound like he did it NOT a former coach years removed. It IS horrific what happened but to tarnish a man for doing what he is instructed to do and follow the chain of command on hearsay, well you all have got it wrong!

Many other horrors were witnessed and not reported in Corporate and in the military ... That'sno excuse but it happens......

Hedoman,

You may be right on this one too. You are always fair and accurate...but..

I was under the impression that in the last ten years or so that all suspected child abuse seen by teachers must be reported to law enforcement and not to supervisors. Maybe that is not in all states.

My belief is that Joe Paterno is a fine man. I certainly have no right to cast stones because I am NOT sinless.

But we can't forget the fact that this man, this fine man, this great man, who was a huge hero to hundreds of thousands and deservedly so, had the same responsiblity as a lowly kindergarten teacher like me.

Hedoman. It hurts all of us to see these things happen. I am sorry that I appear self righteous.

And it is possible that he did just exactly what he was supposed to do and worried about it at night and couldn't sleep.

What a terrible, awful mess. What pain for all.
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:01 AM
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It made me ill when, yesterday, his defense was he had "17 grandchildren". So??

Also, the number of people rioting because of his firing is very disconcerting. I will blame this on 'youth', but this is our best and brightest?

So MANY to fire and get rid of.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:20 AM
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The grand jury report can be found on line. Form your own opinions if you can get through it.

The defense of Joe reminds of the classic "I was just following orders" defense.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...-document.html
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What about the graduate student who is said to have witnessed something in a locker room? Why didn't he go to police??? It's a mess. I'm sorry to say but it's just another example of men with power attempting to sweep things under the rug in hopes that the problem will just go away quietly.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:03 AM
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What about the graduate student who is said to have witnessed something in a locker room? Why didn't he go to police??? It's a mess. I'm sorry to say but it's just another example of men with power attempting to sweep things under the rug in hopes that the problem will just go away quietly.
Why didn't he stop what he saw? He's still a coach on the team. He's not exactly a little guy. No doubt he could have handled a 60 year old man abusing a 10 year old in a shower. His lack of action at the time are really disturbing.
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I read in the beginning that the grad student was now an assistant coach at Penn State. Pay off possibly?
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