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Record10ti 05-31-2016 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sable99 (Post 1234020)
How do I get Office 2013 back?

Any help would be appreciated,


Do you still have your Office Media (DVD's)? There never was a forces reason to go to 365 (but it does make a TON of sense, even more so with OneDrive).

If not, I can get you a download link for any version of Office you would like (from TechNet.microsoft.com).

biker1 05-31-2016 08:33 AM

What you think customers like or don't like is irrelevant. The gain, as I already pointed out, is to pad the number of installs and increase their telemetry. Most people will be unaware of the fact that Windows 10 will increase the amount of telemetry collected and therefore unaware that they can turn it off. This is clearly what Microsoft is counting on. The fact that it breaks functionality for some people is apparently no concern. The very definition of bad customer service. Please stop trying to defend this sort of behavior - nobody else pulls this crap.

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Originally Posted by Record10ti (Post 1234128)
What exactly is the "gain" Microsoft is going to see? Some need more memory or an HDD (MSFT does not sell hardware). Some need a new computer (again, MSFT does not sell hardware). I am failing to see where it is exactly they "gain". PLUS, if you READ the install information it is not at all hard to turn off the telemetry stuff, Cortina and the other bloatware (then again, this required about thirty seconds of reading).

It is so funny that so many people are complaining - and most do not even know what they are complaining about. Quite simply, they do not like "change".


Record10ti 05-31-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1234132)
Please stop trying to defend this sort of behavior - nobody else pulls this crap.



LOL - that my friend is laughable. Certainly not Google/Android/Chrome. Not Apple. Not your car insurance company with their systems that plug into your cars diagnostic port. Never OnStar...your cell phone company would not do that either...or Comcast....

biker1 05-31-2016 08:49 AM

Really? Apple doesn't upgrade the OS on my Mac without my explicit permission. Apple doesn't upgrade IOS on my iPhone without my explicit permission. Apple doesn't upgrade IOS on my iPad without my explicit permission. My company doesn't upgrade firmware or OS levels without our customer's permission. Linux distros for desktop systems don't upgrade without user permissions. My insurance company doesn't plug anything into my OBD port. Come back to reality. Onstar is for a car, not a home computer. If you want to drift off topic start another thread about OnStar on cars.


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Originally Posted by Record10ti (Post 1234135)
LOL - that my friend is laughable. Certainly not Google/Android/Chrome. Not Apple. Not your car insurance company with their systems that plug into your cars diagnostic port. Never OnStar...your cell phone company would not do that either...or Comcast....


Regor 05-31-2016 08:55 AM

Boy, everyone seems to go off course here. The OP wants help on her Office programs! I did a search and Microsoft does have an update for Office 2013 that resolves many problems with going from Win 7 to Win 10 and Office 2013.

Record10ti 05-31-2016 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1234143)
Boy, everyone seems to go off course here. The OP wants help on her Office programs! I did a search and Microsoft does have an update for Office 2013 that resolves many problems with going from Win 7 to Win 10 and Office 2013.


I have an Office 2013 Media kit already burnt for her (all updates, just downloaded it). All she needs is to say so and I can get it to her. :coolsmiley:

And, if she was to type "System Restore" in a search Window she can go back a few days (much cleaner than "Uninstall")

Marathon Man 05-31-2016 10:07 AM

I was recently surprised with a Win10 upgrade. My Microsoft Word and Excel still work. All my files are readable and changeable. I have Office 2013. So far, I have had no issues with Win10, so I guess I am not troubled by their "intrusion" into my computer.

Bavarian 05-31-2016 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1234182)
Note to self: Add computer geeks to list of most arrogant. Initial placement somewhere between bicycle riders and dog owners....maybe just below line dancers or Patriots fans.

As a EE who spent his career making computers solve complex problems using punch cards on Mainframes, then terminals on the mainframes and some PC's, I take umbrag with that comment against us Computer "geeks".

Did you upgrade Office. Now Microsoft leases Office currently 2016. If you have problems go to the Computer ++ club, they spend most time on Win10, some of the moderators were Beta testers for Win10. I have had problems with my old Office Outlook and forced to use Mail, lost my EMAIL that came on recent trip. Right now have too many other pressing tasks to do, in between going in the pool, that I will address that later.

Grace, if you are stuck, maybe I can help?

Carla B 05-31-2016 11:22 AM

I hope the moderators don't delete the above contentious posts. They are helping to educate us non techies. My 2-yr old Dell came with Windows 8, which I immediately upgraded to 8.1. Now I've transitioned from 8.1 to 10 and don't see much difference yet. Just wondering if the leap from Windows 7 to 10 is too much for the Microsoft program to handle without creating problems.

Record10ti 05-31-2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1234231)
I hope the moderators don't delete the above contentious posts. They are helping to educate us non techies. My 2-yr old Dell came with Windows 8, which I immediately upgraded to 8.1. Now I've transitioned from 8.1 to 10 and don't see much difference yet. Just wondering if the leap from Windows 7 to 10 is too much for the Microsoft program to handle without creating problems.



You are correct that going from 8.1 to 10 is about seamless in how the system looks. At the end of the day, the way it looks is the biggest change (on top of some functionality that only computer geeks would notice).

I have been PM for the roll out to 10 from 7 for hundreds of systems and seen very few issues. Never anything with Office of any flavor (right down to Office 2003).

Record10ti 05-31-2016 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian (Post 1234195)
Now Microsoft leases Office currently 2016.


Only if you subscribe to 365. Or, you can simply purchase the software.

rubicon 05-31-2016 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1234117)
This is bad behavior by Microsoft - updating without explicit permission to do so. Microsoft is most likely trying to pad the number of Windows 10 installations and increase the telemetry they collect from you. You apparently have 30 days to rollback Window 10 to what you previously had installed. Corporate users would never allow this to happen and you shouldn't either. Upgrade if and when it makes sense for you, not Microsoft, to do so. I work for a computer manufacturer and if we tried this on our customers the results would not be favorable.

biker1: thank you I take umbrage with windows assumption that they can have their way with my personal computers.

I downloaded Never Win 10 but didn't run it until this afternoon when Windows 10 attempted began play a tug a war with me and my laptop. I immediately ran Never 10. I then went to my desktop same thing so I was in a race with Win 10 upgrade minimizing screens so I could continue on with the Never 10 run.

A corporation plans well beyond 10 years windows 10 is today's platform for something down the road?

I have windows 7 and my information is arranged to my liking. Its my understanding that Win 7 help ends 20220. Well before 2020 I am certain to be purchasing another computer. My plans call for an apple next time. I'm sick of the hassle and the concerns about viruses

Walter123 05-31-2016 03:48 PM

Sooner or later Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7 then you will need to upgrade anyway.

Walter123 06-01-2016 10:22 AM

This article explains a lot about Windows 10.

Why it’s crucial for you to update to Windows 10 by July 29

Sable99 06-01-2016 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Record10ti (Post 1234146)
I have an Office 2013 Media kit already burnt for her (all updates, just downloaded it). All she needs is to say so and I can get it to her. :coolsmiley:

And, if she was to type "System Restore" in a search Window she can go back a few days (much cleaner than "Uninstall")

Thank you so much for your offer. I'm only going to be here for a few more days and I'm going a little crazy getting my house set up.

Besides Outlook, I can't open two games (solitaire and Freecell) and this morning I couldn't get into Sam's Club credit. They said it was a glitch on my end!


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