[IndianaJones]

We've lived here 5 years - I just finally retired. Got up in the attic to start cleaning stuff out, found this. Truss is completely split - you can see the remaining shards, and apparently they scabbed on a 4' piece of 2x4 (yep, that's the length of the scabbed board). Obviously this was missed on inspection (had what I thought was a thorough inspection, plus 2 different roof inspections). House is 16 years young. Questions"
1) Is this okay?
2) Okay to scab a second 10' 2x4 onto the other side and lag bolt them together?
3) Or should I call a structural engineer to take a look?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

[Toymeister]

It is common to see this type of job site repair. While irritating the repair will support your roof. Since it bothers you please add another 2X4. I would use glue and carriage bolts through all 2X4s creating a superior clamping, vice lag bolts.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by IndianaJones

We've lived here 5 years - I just finally retired. Got up in the attic to start cleaning stuff out, found this. Truss is completely split - you can see the remaining shards, and apparently they scabbed on a 4' piece of 2x4 (yep, that's the length of the scabbed board). Obviously this was missed on inspection (had what I thought was a thorough inspection, plus 2 different roof inspections). House is 16 years young. Questions"
1) Is this okay?
2) Okay to scab a second 10' 2x4 onto the other side and lag bolt them together?
3) Or should I call a structural engineer to take a look?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

With all due respect, why would you trust/depend on any replies you might get on this site. You're going to get a lot of replies, but my suggestion would be hiring a licensed contractor to get an opinion. You might also reach out to Frank, who is an expert in this area HOME | dangeloinspections

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by photo1902

With all due respect, why would you trust/depend on any replies you might get on this site. /url]

I dunno, there are a lot of retired folks that were in construction or are engineers.

I certainly wouldn't use random Joe contractor just because someone on TOTV suggested it.

As was suggested above collar ties connecting both rafters to the king post with 3/8th or bigger carriage bolts would be sufficient. If you used 2x6s you would surpass the load bearing capacity of the original 2x4 web in the truss.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by IndianaJones

We've lived here 5 years - I just finally retired. Got up in the attic to start cleaning stuff out, found this. Truss is completely split - you can see the remaining shards, and apparently they scabbed on a 4' piece of 2x4 (yep, that's the length of the scabbed board). Obviously this was missed on inspection (had what I thought was a thorough inspection, plus 2 different roof inspections). House is 16 years young. Questions"
1) Is this okay?
2) Okay to scab a second 10' 2x4 onto the other side and lag bolt them together?
3) Or should I call a structural engineer to take a look?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

It is very common to have trusses made from 2x4s to be damaged during construction. They are often damaged when a crane sets them into place. The routine repair is to attach a 2x4 on both sides of the damaged board and to bolt them together. It is called "sistering" the truss member. You can do it yourself or hire a carpenter do it for you. But, you don't need a structural engineer.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Malsua

I dunno, there are a lot of retired folks that were in construction or are engineers.

I certainly wouldn't use random Joe contractor just because someone on TOTV suggested it.

As was suggested above collar ties connecting both rafters to the king post with 3/8th or bigger carriage bolts would be sufficient. If you used 2x6s you would surpass the load bearing capacity of the original 2x4 web in the truss.

Well there you go. You’ve solved it for them. Thanks.

[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by IndianaJones

We've lived here 5 years - I just finally retired. Got up in the attic to start cleaning stuff out, found this. Truss is completely split - you can see the remaining shards, and apparently they scabbed on a 4' piece of 2x4 (yep, that's the length of the scabbed board). Obviously this was missed on inspection (had what I thought was a thorough inspection, plus 2 different roof inspections). House is 16 years young. Questions"
1) Is this okay?
2) Okay to scab a second 10' 2x4 onto the other side and lag bolt them together?
3) Or should I call a structural engineer to take a look?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

The houses typically have a structural warranty, NOT sure if this would be covered, but I would call home warranty 352-753-6222 and ask them. You can also ask for the original truss installer and contact them about a repair.
Hope this helps.
PS if the above fails, I would add two 2 by 4's, glued to each side of the damaged board with 1/4 inch or 5/16 inch bolts and washers to hold the new boards to the original board. Full disclosure I am NOT a structural engineer, I was an electrical engineer.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Malsua

I dunno, there are a lot of retired folks that were in construction or are engineers.

I certainly wouldn't use random Joe contractor just because someone on TOTV suggested it.

As was suggested above collar ties connecting both rafters to the king post with 3/8th or bigger carriage bolts would be sufficient. If you used 2x6s you would surpass the load bearing capacity of the original 2x4 web in the truss.

The inspector he recommended is known throughout the Villages. DeAngelo is one of the best in the area, licensed, insured, and they spend a pretty fair chunk on advertising all over the place. They're not unknown or some random Joe Contractor (I wouldn't hire one of those either).

[banjobob]

After 16 years ? Must be working .

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by IndianaJones

We've lived here 5 years - I just finally retired. Got up in the attic to start cleaning stuff out, found this. Truss is completely split - you can see the remaining shards, and apparently they scabbed on a 4' piece of 2x4 (yep, that's the length of the scabbed board). Obviously this was missed on inspection (had what I thought was a thorough inspection, plus 2 different roof inspections). House is 16 years young. Questions"
1) Is this okay?
2) Okay to scab a second 10' 2x4 onto the other side and lag bolt them together?
3) Or should I call a structural engineer to take a look?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

I see nails or screws penetrating that broken 2x4 coming from the other side that isn’t pictured
If there is something attached to the other side then just attach a 2x4 to the pictured side. Try to cut it to fit the top and go all the way to the bottom. Also take a hammer and tighten up the truss plates on the top before adding 2x4. If you want to bolt it you can but you would only be drawing attention to it. I would use 3” wood screws. That is yellow pine by the way if you want it to match. Wouldn’t hurt to grind off the points of those penetrating nails first to make it easier. Pick a cool morning for the job. Yes I have tons of experience building with trusses and I don’t mean watching someone else do the work. That is one reason my back is trash now

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

It is common to see this type of job site repair. While irritating the repair will support your roof. Since it bothers you please add another 2X4. I would use glue and carriage bolts through all 2X4s creating a superior clamping, vice lag bolts.

correct

[Randyj66]

Your Initial thoughts of consulting a engineer are correct. As a contractor that does structural repairs I can unequivocally tell you that a truss repair without a stamped engineer report means nothing. Please stop and do not proceed to keep drilling and adding un authorized holes and devices. You will absolutely need a report to re sell. Remove the damaged ridge pole and Install new fish plates and fix it correctly!

[RICH1]

Yup sister the 2x4s using carriage bolts ! That is the proper repair a Contractor will do! Do it yourself for under 50.00 or pay thousands! Wait till fall , when it's enjoyable up in the attic!

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by photo1902

With all due respect, why would you trust/depend on any replies you might get on this site. You're going to get a lot of replies, but my suggestion would be hiring a licensed contractor to get an opinion. You might also reach out to Frank, who is an expert in this area HOME | dangeloinspections

Because this is a community board with retired construction and engineers…….so before he gets taken advantage of he reaches out to his neighbors…….like the good days before the internet. Remember the days your neighbors would have been there to help fix this.

[J1ceasar]

One thing you did not say is whether the roof is buckling or do you or do you see any thing else. Pretty sure you've gotten pretty good advice on getting good advice for your own peace of mind, get the guy recommended to come take a look and it's a few hundred bucks out of your pocket to get it fixed and inspected.