When I was originally looking for a BETTER gutter cleaner in July, it was because Hills had previously (2016) not fixed our plugged downspouts AND they had left our birdcage lanai littered with roof gravel. Kirk at A-Action Seamless Gutters not only cleaned every speck of dirt off the lanai, the downspouts handled all of this summer's rain and the bulk of Irma's wrath until the pine needles won. I will ask again about a gutter guard of some kind, Tinker, but I think I was previously told they will not help with the pine needles. I think I may have to resign myself to quarterly gutter cleaning of the big gutter. All the other ones seem to spit out the needles during the downpours.