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Golfingnut 05-01-2013 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 669218)
G-Nut

But U should clarify that it is not really salt water?????

It is merely another for of chlorine.
I have to believe you are correct, as I truly don't understand how the salt water system works BUT:

With chlorine tablets and powder, it was always a struggle to get the levels correct. It would irritate my eyes and leave my skin feeling chalky. If left alone for 3 or four days, the water would turn murky, algae would grow and it was a real pain to get it back close enough to get in the water.

Now with the Salt Water System, I can open my eyes under water, no smells or irritation at all. If left alone for 3 or 4 weeks, it is still perfect. I worked for 40 years to allow us the best and with the Salt Water Pool System, we have it. I wish you the best of luck with your new swim spa.

jimbo2012 05-01-2013 04:39 AM
Yes the so called salt chlorine system is less harmful according to the pool industry.

But it is still chlorine, has has negative affects as a carcinogen.

Kinda like a filter on a cigarette, still harmful.

But if I was not doing my type of pool filtration system, I would opt for salt/chlorine system.

I know it cost more but you made the better choice.


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Sleeper 05-01-2013 06:34 AM
But it is still chlorine, has has negative affects as a carcinogen.


Are you referring to ingesting large quantities? I could not find any references to cancer from pool water??

jimbo2012 05-01-2013 10:48 AM
Just Google it.

Swimming in chlorinated pools can cause an increased risk of cancer in bathers, Spanish researchers said on Monday.

Researchers from the Barcelona-based Center of Research in Environmental Epidemiology and Research Institute Hospital del Mar studied changes in indicators of mutagenicity — permanent mutation of the DNA — among a group of swimmers in an indoor chlorinated pool.

"The evidence of genotoxic effects were observed in 49 healthy adults after swimming for 40 minutes in a chlorinated indoor pool," CREAL said in a statement on Monday.

Researchers found indicators of an increase in cancer risk in healthy subjects as well as potential respiratory effects from the chlorine used as a disinfectant, the statement said.

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graciegirl 05-01-2013 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 669545)
Just Google it.

Swimming in chlorinated pools can cause an increased risk of cancer in bathers, Spanish researchers said on Monday.

Researchers from the Barcelona-based Center of Research in Environmental Epidemiology and Research Institute Hospital del Mar studied changes in indicators of mutagenicity — permanent mutation of the DNA — among a group of swimmers in an indoor chlorinated pool.

"The evidence of genotoxic effects were observed in 49 healthy adults after swimming for 40 minutes in a chlorinated indoor pool," CREAL said in a statement on Monday.

Researchers found indicators of an increase in cancer risk in healthy subjects as well as potential respiratory effects from the chlorine used as a disinfectant, the statement said.

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I am really sorry. The devil made me type it. I loves you Jimbo.

Also. Do you think bleached blondes are suffering from genetic mutations?

Just kidding. Well now that I think of it..............maybe you are right............

linkade 06-08-2013 07:06 AM
Beware of All Seasons Pools
 
We thought we did our homework and chose All Seasons because of their reputation. When they first started in The Villages there was nothing but praise and really did the job right. In the past year maybe more, things changed.

For our pool they started construction end of October and things still dragged on into late January into February. We had to constantly stay on them because of unfinished or faulty parts. Sub contractors rushed, didn't check work which required call backs. We're still trying the get the sprinkler guy to sync one zone he missed!

Now we're horrified that the interior finish is staining! We hear we are not alone from our pool service. He has about 10 clients having the same problem. Another local pool service has more. All Seasons claim it's a chemistry issue but did change the interior finish company they were dealing with. All those effected need to get together. Please let me know if you have a similar experience.

Gerald 06-08-2013 08:15 AM
I used T&D had to wait a few weeks for the estimate. They did a great job. No problems at all. Everything is told to you everything is spelled out and each item was shown in the estimate and bill. All I can say is the are not the cheapest nor are they the most expensive. You will be happy with the results. They never lied never hid anything. Choose wisely is all I can suggest.

Russ_Boston 06-08-2013 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by linkade (Post 688761)
We thought we did our homework and chose All Seasons because of their reputation. When they first started in The Villages there was nothing but praise and really did the job right. In the past year maybe more things changed.

For our pool they started construction end of October and things still dragged on into late January into February. We had to constantly stay on them because of unfinished or faulty parts. Sub contractors rushed, didn't check work which required call backs. We're still trying the get the sprinkler guy to sync one zone he missed!

Now we're horrified that the interior finish is straining! We hear we are not alone from our pool service. He has about 10 clients having the same problem. Another local pool service has more. All Seasons claim it's a chemistry issue but did change the interior finish company they were dealing with. All those effected need to get together. Please let me know if you have a similar experience.
I used All Seasons and had no issues with construction or touch ups. I did have a staining issue but they came out, drained the pool, re-finished the bottom and filled up the pool (they paid me for the water). Pool looks spectacular now - hope it stays that way.

Mack184 06-08-2013 01:22 PM
All Seasons has an "A" grade with Angie's List. T&D has no rating at all there, however many people have said to me that they do very fine work.

jimbo2012 06-08-2013 01:33 PM
do U really think Angies list is the gold standard?

Mack184 06-08-2013 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 688989)
do U really think Angies list is the gold standard?
Obviously YOU do not. However, since moving here and essentially not knowing anybody, I have found it to be a very valuable tool, and have not once been disappointed by people I have selected from it.

Polar Bear 06-08-2013 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 688991)
Obviously YOU do not. However, since moving here and essentially not knowing anybody, I have found it to be a very valuable tool, and have not once been disappointed by people I have selected from it.
Agree. Nothing is totally foolproof, but when you are not familiar with the area, Angie's List is a valuable tool.

rubicon 06-08-2013 02:53 PM
chorline cancer chalky feeling algae, staining burning eyes....lions and tigers and bears

linkade 06-09-2013 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 688801)
I used All Seasons and had no issues with construction or touch ups. I did have a staining issue but they came out, drained the pool, re-finished the bottom and filled up the pool (they paid me for the water). Pool looks spectacular now - hope it stays that way.
Thanks for the info. They are not offering that at this time. Sticking to blaming it on chemicals not problem with interior finish. How long ago did they rectify the staining problem by re-finishing bottom?

Russ_Boston 06-10-2013 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by linkade (Post 689444)
Thanks for the info. They are not offering that at this time. Sticking to blaming it on chemicals not problem with interior finish. How long ago did they rectify the staining problem by re-finishing bottom?
Strange thing is that I didn't think it was that bad. They insisted that they wanted to do it so I agreed. But it does look MUCH better after. I had the pool for about 8 months before they did it. That was about 9 months ago. I do have a service who does my chemicals and cleaning so I don't think they could blame it on chemicals.

Send me a PM if you'd like to come see it. Russ


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