Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1085199)

Ok, I'm confused. Does the floor HAVE TO be raised to AC the lanai or can it be left alone? We are going to leave the slider in going from the kitchen to the lanai. BTW, has anyone used Magellan to do their lanai? My wife played in a tournament today and one lady was really happy with her lanai they did.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1084941)

I don't believe that is true, at least according to a contractor I spoke with. The issue of raising the floor comes down to how far above grade it is. If it is far enough above grade then you don't need to raise it if you are installing a mini-split system. At least, this is how it was explained to me by someone who I believe understands the building codes. A vapor barrier is required either way.

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1084880)

Razorbackfan, you need to do some research at Sumter County offices. The building codes were revised (as of 1/1/2015, I think). The results can include any or all of the following: (This is what I recall from newspaper and previous threads.)
1. The newly enclosed area will be classified as class 4 or 5 (I think) living space.
2. The new classification requires additional electrical receptacles.
3. The floor needs to be raised (note I have seen comments regarding water proofing).
4. Split A/C units are not allowed (need to check on this, maybe conditional on the living space classification).
5. Multiple permits required as well as inspections.
6. You will want suitable insulation in the lanai, etc.
Also, there maybe specific requirements for the glass being used to enclose this area, there will be increased taxes, and house insurance, etc.

Good luck with your project.

Do your self a big favor go to sumter county of in Pinellas Plaza and ask to talk to a building inspector about the specific requirements. I have done this twice and they have been very helpful, and eliminated the possibility of me making a costly error.

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1086137)

I spoke the planning dept before I got my permit, the floor does NOT need to raised.

Only if the slab is at or below grade. None of them I've seen are.
The contractors that don't know the code will rope you into spending money for work not needed.

The reason for the slab to visible is for termite inspection and water infiltration.

This can also be accomplish be excavating with a shovel out a few inches of dirt.

As far as A/C heat, a load calc needs to be done to determine if an additional unit is needed, most homes don't need it.


Vapor under existing slab is not required, it is not stated anywhere in the code.

You are not required but really should insulate the lanai ceiling with R-30

Windows, if you but the wrong glass that almost all contractors are using and you have sun on the glass it will get hot.

You need the correct solar glass.

see my other thread here about glass.

It is really crazy about the miss information. :read:

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1086855)

Update:
Apparently on June 30th Sumter County adopted new building code. I just got caught in this as the plans for our new birdcage were submitted around July 1st, and were denied, and need to be resubmitted. I was also told that projects started under the OLD code need to be completed under the NEW code, this is unbelievable!!!
So double check, there seems to be lots of confusion on this issue. I may be looking at few weeks delay due to this change and all of the confusion at Sumter County.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1086720)

Apparently a vapor barrier is now required over an existing concrete floor according to two contractors.

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1086855)

Update:
Apparently on June 30th Sumter County adopted new building code.
I was also told that projects started under the OLD code need to be completed under the NEW code, this is unbelievable.

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1086922)

I wouldn't go by any contractor saying that with their had in your pocket.

Moreover, tell them to show it to you in code. :read:



Like you said not believable, any permit issued before June 30th is valid for one year.

Now if you don't complete in one year yes then the renewal must comply with the new code.

Just look at all the houses being completed here now
(and over the next couple of months) with the non compliant aluminum windows.


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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1086939)

Whom did you speak to?