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Rosebud1949 08-30-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeForChange (Post 1824812)
I have been here eight years. I currently own two homes. The one I live in and another rental. The home I live in (six years old) lost some shingles in the hurricane a few years back. We had them replaced by a handyman I have used several times. Recently we lost some more as the house is on a golf course with nothing to block the East wind. I had those replaced.
The rental home is about 13 years old. I recently had a well know roofing contractor from Leesburg inspect both houses. They told me I had issues with the shingles and needed some replaced for $599. They inspected the rental home and said there were soft spots in the roof and I needed a total new roof to the tune of $11,999.00.

This morning I had a certified home inspector I have used before check both homes roofs. It cost me $60 total. I only need a little roof sealant on my personal home on a few shingles and the other rental roof DOES NOT NEED REPLACING. It is a 30 year roof and is only 13 years old. This roofing company (well known) in my mind tried to rip me off. BEWARE of roofers telling you your roof needs replacing and quotes a price. Get a certified inspector before forking over money! If you want names send me a message.

We have had no less than 8 yes 8 folk, from the SAME Company... call and say we need a new roof.. We dont, its fine, we have had it properly inspected....but they say " well we can make sure that will change" so the Insurance will pay. How do we stop the folk from SOLICITING at our doors. I thought the Villages had a policy for that.

Topspinmo 08-30-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Susan1951 (Post 1825083)
Can I ask, I am confused, what does the 30 year warranty on our roofs cover? because it seems to me that no matter what the problem it is not covered ??


Nothing

Topspinmo 08-30-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1825336)
the new roof haters will be at your door, if an insurance company gives you the ok then thats it , I don’t know why people begrudge other people getting new roof , and please don’t tell me about insurance going up , my bill went down $67 from last year


You might want to read the fine print

kathy1516 08-30-2020 03:06 PM

I’m interested in who you used to check your roof. I’m having some leaking around the a/c vent in the ceiling. Thanks in advance!

bpascani 08-30-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TimeForChange (Post 1824812)
I have been here eight years. I currently own two homes. The one I live in and another rental. The home I live in (six years old) lost some shingles in the hurricane a few years back. We had them replaced by a handyman I have used several times. Recently we lost some more as the house is on a golf course with nothing to block the East wind. I had those replaced.
The rental home is about 13 years old. I recently had a well know roofing contractor from Leesburg inspect both houses. They told me I had issues with the shingles and needed some replaced for $599. They inspected the rental home and said there were soft spots in the roof and I needed a total new roof to the tune of $11,999.00.

This morning I had a certified home inspector I have used before check both homes roofs. It cost me $60 total. I only need a little roof sealant on my personal home on a few shingles and the other rental roof DOES NOT NEED REPLACING. It is a 30 year roof and is only 13 years old. This roofing company (well known) in my mind tried to rip me off. BEWARE of roofers telling you your roof needs replacing and quotes a price. Get a certified inspector before forking over money! If you want names send me a message.

And DO NOT let said 'roof person' talk you i to 'letting him handle everything with you insurance company for you'! That is called ASSIGNMENT OF BENEFITS, and ou are basically signing your house over to this person. DON'T FALL FOR IT!! Do it yourself ...like this person did!!

Quixote 08-30-2020 07:53 PM

Friends recommended a roofing company that had done a superb new roof on their home. We invited the company to examine our roof; the company’s inspector said that our roof showed enough storm damage that they were virtually certain that our insurance company would agree and that our total cost would be our insurance deductible of $500. Our next-door neighbor asked the rep to check her roof; he did and told her that her roof would NOT5 qualify for insurance purposes.

So, in a sense the decision was not ours, nor was it that of the roofing company; it was really that of our insurance company. They approved a new roof! I was surprised and asked the Insurance claims person if this is typical. She said that the insurance company prefers to pay for a roof this year rather than a new roof plus inside damage next year. We had the new roof installed a few months ago, it did indeed cost $500 out of pocket, and our insurance premium not only did not go up, it actually dropped a little.

We highly recommend Five Star Roofing (Scott Ruby, 813-416-5844) and are very happy with our insurance company, AAA South.

Velvet 08-30-2020 08:17 PM

Very useful information. Thank you for sharing. The idea of getting the evaluation of a certified home inspector instead of a roofer to give suggestions for fixing your roof is genius! I’ve had my roof repaired several times on various homes over the years and suspected that maybe I was being fleeced by the roofing company, but what did I know?

nn0wheremann 08-31-2020 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1824995)
Try finding an insurance company with a 15yo roof.

Farmers insures mine. 17 YO roof.

bilcon 08-31-2020 06:37 AM

Has anyone gone through TV Insurance company for new roofs?

Ladygolfer93 09-01-2020 03:16 PM

The HIGH cost of "free" roofs for all
 
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Originally Posted by bpascani (Post 1825516)
And DO NOT let said 'roof person' talk you i to 'letting him handle everything with you insurance company for you'! That is called ASSIGNMENT OF BENEFITS, and ou are basically signing your house over to this person. DON'T FALL FOR IT!! Do it yourself ...like this person did!!

The advice above is right on. Just had cousin in another state taken in this same scam (concerning water damage) and it cost her thousands and after a very long legal fight, also lost her insurance for signing what the restoration/mold person told her she MUST sign, or, they would simply allow her basement to remain as it was... full of water, until as he told here "the foundation walls just collapse".

But of serious concern here in the Villages is the number of people who are falling for the roofing scam, turn in a false damage claim to get a "free" roof, and then pay with mind boggling premium rates: $700 to $1500 annually in one actual example...but, many of the neighbors got their "free" roofs. Here is a great explanation of what will continue if people don't stop this kind of thing. Got this letter from
my insurance company (one many on this site also seem to have):

"You may have noticed that your home insurance premium has been increasing these past few years - and sadly, there's no end to this trend in sight. Florida's property insurance industry is facing an unprecedented crisis and unless we achieve meaningful legislative reform, this trend will continue for years to come. Fortunately, you can help bring this crisis to an end!
Here's Why Premiums Continue to Increase:

Frivolous lawsuits filed by trial attorneys who earn "fee multipliers," generally of 2-3 times an average attorney's hourly rate (ex. $500 x 2.5 = $1,250 an hour). They are able to earn six-figure fees on a $10K settlement, none of which is shared with the policyholder - they keep it all to themselves.
Thousands of claims reported with damage to roofs that appear to be wear-and-tear or maintenance-related, rather than damage caused by a covered peril.
Reinsurance (“insurance for insurance companies) costs are rising because of lawsuits being currently filed for “damage” caused by a hurricane that made landfall three years ago! "

You may have noticed that your home insurance premium has been increasing these past few years - and sadly, there's no end to this trend in sight. Florida's property insurance industry is facing an unprecedented crisis and unless we achieve meaningful legislative reform, this trend will continue for years to come. Fortunately, you can help bring this crisis to an end!
Here's Why Premiums Continue to Increase:

Frivolous lawsuits filed by trial attorneys who earn "fee multipliers," generally of 2-3 times an average attorney's hourly rate (ex. $500 x 2.5 = $1,250 an hour). They are able to earn six-figure fees on a $10K settlement, none of which is shared with the policyholder - they keep it all to themselves.
Thousands of claims reported with damage to roofs that appear to be wear-and-tear or maintenance-related, rather than damage caused by a covered peril.
Reinsurance (“insurance for insurance companies) costs are rising because of lawsuits being currently filed for “damage” caused by a hurricane that made landfall three years ago!

RosemarySoso 09-01-2020 03:46 PM

Roof issues
 
Roofing companies have been known to show you video of the deplorable condition of your roof. Beware!!! Those videos may not be your roof!! One such crook got nailed bc the video he showed the homeowner was not the same roof color. Duh

Bjeanj 09-01-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 1825754)
Has anyone gone through TV Insurance company for new roofs?

To clarify for you, there is no such thing as TV Insurance company.

The Villages Insurance is an agency that represents several actual Insurance companies. They would in no way have anything to do with adjusting or paying for a claim.

Claims would be made to any of the insurance companies that they represent.

Sorry, but this drives me nuts.

kkingston57 09-01-2020 04:08 PM

Moving into Villages soon and currently live in S. Fla. Was in the insurance adjusting business and this has been going on for years down here. We pay 3-4 X more for house insurance(Agree we are more likely to get hit by a hurricane) than in the Villages. With the storm hitting Louisiana these roofers will probably leave and go there where they can get 2x the prior roofing prices.

kkingston57 09-01-2020 04:13 PM

Agree and have found similar problems. Hip roofs are the way to go and none to be seen in the villages

kkingston57 09-01-2020 04:15 PM

You might want to take a closer look. Sounds like water is being caused by condensation.

oldtimes 09-01-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Quixote (Post 1825606)
Friends recommended a roofing company that had done a superb new roof on their home. We invited the company to examine our roof; the company’s inspector said that our roof showed enough storm damage that they were virtually certain that our insurance company would agree and that our total cost would be our insurance deductible of $500. Our next-door neighbor asked the rep to check her roof; he did and told her that her roof would NOT5 qualify for insurance purposes.

So, in a sense the decision was not ours, nor was it that of the roofing company; it was really that of our insurance company. They approved a new roof! I was surprised and asked the Insurance claims person if this is typical. She said that the insurance company prefers to pay for a roof this year rather than a new roof plus inside damage next year. We had the new roof installed a few months ago, it did indeed cost $500 out of pocket, and our insurance premium not only did not go up, it actually dropped a little.

We highly recommend Five Star Roofing (Scott Ruby, 813-416-5844) and are very happy with our insurance company, AAA South.

My husband is a builder and most of the roofers he has seen he would not let near our roof. Just because a roof looks nice does not mean it was a superb job. He has noted the repairs are not properly done to the roof itself, the moisture barrier was not applied properly and not enough nails were used or not set properly and the quality of materials was questionable.

Quixote 09-02-2020 06:26 AM

Itmeven
 
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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 1826882)
My husband is a builder and most of the roofers he has seen he would not let near our roof. Just because a roof looks nice does not mean it was a superb job. He has noted the repairs are not properly done to the roof itself, the moisture barrier was not applied properly and not enough nails were used or not set properly and the quality of materials was questionable.

To quote myself: “So, in a sense the decision [to replace our roof] was not ours, nor was it that of the roofing company; it was really that of our insurance company.“ The same roofing company rep told the next-door neighbor that she would not qualify, that it is up to the insurance company adjuster, not him (the roofing company rep).

Whose roof are you talking about that was not “repaired” properly? And what does a roof “repair” (an issue between a homeowner and her or his handyperson or whoever is hired to do the repair) have to do with a roof “replacement” (which requires the approval of the insurance company’s inspector—both before AND after the new roof is installed—as well as an inspection AND approval by local authorities)?

We have a friend who felt he MIGHT need a new roof—no certainty—and he contacted our roofer on our recommendation. When the roofer heard which insurance company was involved, he would not even look at the roof! (The insurance company is known for using their own roofing companies when THEY decide there’s a need.) My friend was irked. I suggested he let the insurance company’s inspector/adjuster send in their own roofing company IF they saw the need for a new roof.

Sure enough, again the obvious—the insurance company makes the decision, NOT the homeowner and certainly NOT the roofing company. And in this instance, the insurance company determined that there was a need for a new roof. So yes, our friend got his new roof—inspected and approved by local authorities—at the cost of his insurance deductible. Like us, he has not had an increase in insurance premium.

It’s clear who’s in charge—who makes the final decisions in situations like this....

oldtimes 09-02-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Quixote (Post 1827041)
To quote myself: “So, in a sense the decision [to replace our roof] was not ours, nor was it that of the roofing company; it was really that of our insurance company.“ The same roofing company rep told the next-door neighbor that she would not qualify, that it is up to the insurance company adjuster, not him (the roofing company rep).

Whose roof are you talking about that was not “repaired” properly? And what does a roof “repair” (an issue between a homeowner and her or his handyperson or whoever is hired to do the repair) have to do with a roof “replacement” (which requires the approval of the insurance company’s inspector—both before AND after the new roof is installed—as well as an inspection AND approval by local authorities)?

We have a friend who felt he MIGHT need a new roof—no certainty—and he contacted our roofer on our recommendation. When the roofer heard which insurance company was involved, he would not even look at the roof! (The insurance company is known for using their own roofing companies when THEY decide there’s a need.) My friend was irked. I suggested he let the insurance company’s inspector/adjuster send in their own roofing company IF they saw the need for a new roof.

Sure enough, again the obvious—the insurance company makes the decision, NOT the homeowner and certainly NOT the roofing company. And in this instance, the insurance company determined that there was a need for a new roof. So yes, our friend got his new roof—inspected and approved by local authorities—at the cost of his insurance deductible. Like us, he has not had an increase in insurance premium.

It’s clear who’s in charge—who makes the final decisions in situations like this....

I'm not talking about insurance companies, I am talking about roofers. Many that we have seen are bad (ie don't use enough nails or don't set them properly). As for the repairs, often when a roof actually does need to be replaced, some of the plywood is rotted and needs to be replaced. Some will just slap new shingles right over it.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-02-2020 08:04 AM

I had Batterby roofing put new roof in
 
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Originally Posted by kathy1516 (Post 1825492)
I’m interested in who you used to check your roof. I’m having some leaking around the a/c vent in the ceiling. Thanks in advance!

After tornado, when I moved into next new home , I noticed a little water after a year in garage, no one could figure it out at warranty office, but to had someone come out from company it took a while checking but realized it was the dry vent took a coat hanger to it , he wouldn’t take a tip even good guys there

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-04-2020 09:07 AM

Hmmm my cousin told me this , I have a friend that’s a builder , my 3rd cousins barber knows a roofing company , all the roofers are crooks, my insurance doubled , Please Give Me A Break. . Just for kicks I checked back my home insurance has gone up $43 in 3 years , it actually went down a couple and I just paid for the year . I’ve been in 5 new homes here but I also lived in homes all over state. When I get my insurance bill here I always chuckle it’s compared what I was paying other places it’s a joke . I have not ever among people I know heard anyone complain that there bill was to highand it’s an insult to brand as incompetent or crooks the many hard working people who work on roofs if your worried you get an inspection after they put the roof up , I did after tornado hit here


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