[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by HiHoSteveO

Actually I don't think it's that simple.

Wouldn't bacteria continue to collect in the carbon filter in the refrigerator?

Bacteria stew with every glass of water or ice cube.

Does the Nova system remove chlorine too? (disinfectant) Wouldn't that make the refrigerator filter even more of a bacteria collector?

Yes it removes it.
But it's no longer needed see post above

If the ice is being made and the water dispenser being used
on regular basis your fine because it is be flushed as all piping in the home.

You can always run water for 3 seconds before using to flush the faucet tip

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by biker1

To remove the sodium added by a water softener (it is actually sodium, not sodium chloride, the chloride is stripped off), you will need a reverse osmosis system,

Agree, but if you use potassium in it's place that will work also.

The reverse osmosis units will give you 99.99% pure water

We install a 5 stage unit for $395

See http://www.novafiltration.com/reverse-osmosis-1/

here's some of what it removes,

[biker1]

Read the rest of most post (#39) as I already said that.

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Agree, but if you use potassium in it's place that will work also.

The reverse osmosis units will give you 99.99% pure water

We install a 5 stage unit for $395

See http://www.novafiltration.com/reverse-osmosis-1/

here's some of what it removes,

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by CFrance

It is the water softener that will take care of the calcium/mineral deposits. But it may not take care of the mold under the toilet rim (ours didn't).

We recommend Clorox Clinging gel

As an earlier poster stated (debfromaine, I believe), just having the whole-house filter will not eliminate all calcium deposits unless you add a softener to it.

The spots or build up is not ALL calcium, it is about 10% calcium and 90% sediment.

The Nova whole house filter will remove the sediment 100%

this pic shows the sediment after 12 months use or 26,000 gallons



A softener will remove the calcium, but it is an option add on unit NOT mandatory.

of our 3481 customers the whole house meets the needs for 90% of our customers in the main part of the villages (N of 44) and in Fenny about 50% where the calcium level is higher.

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[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

With Pelican..............You can filter, you can soften, you can do both.

Pelican is NOT a softener, it is treatment system.

It does NOT remove calcium or magnesium, it claims to suspend it

The definition of softener is to remove.

It sell for about $3,300

I contacted the company to ask them for info supporting their claims

they sent a lab test done in Germany, guess no lab in in USA could give them the results they wanted!!!!




They say they soften the water without salt while leaving the beneficial minerals. Soft water is “water where the hard minerals (calcium and magnesium) have been removed”. But the salt-free marketing guys say that their process leaves the beneficial minerals. Sure, including calcium and magnesium . So, if it doesn’t not soften water, it shouldn’t be called a “WATER SOFTENER.” Yet, that is exactly what they call it.

The way these work they suspend the (calcium and magnesium) they do not remove them. they bind these minerals together. I asked that direct question This is important because if you’re expecting to experience truly “soft” water after installing your NuvoH2O, you’re likely to be disappointed.Therefore, they do not in fact soften water

That’s just a marketing scheme designed to trick you into buying their product.

Only a salt or potassium chloride-based water softener removes the calcium and magnesium.

I am amazed that these companies like Nuvo H2O, Pelican & Rhino continue to get away with their deception and charge upwards of $3,000+

We can install a whole house filter and softener for about $1500

[biker1]

Pelican makes a number of products including salt-based (sodium chloride or potassium chloride) ion exchange water softeners. Your reference is to their non-salt based system only. I share your skepticism about non-salt based systems (although I have never had one but have used salt-based systems for a long time).

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Pelican is NOT a softener, it is treatment system.

It does NOT remove calcium or magnesium, it claims to suspend it

The definition of softener is to remove.

It sell for about $3,300

I contacted the company to ask them for info supporting their claims

they sent a lab test done in Germany, guess no lab in in USA could give them the results they wanted!!!!




They say they soften the water without salt while leaving the beneficial minerals. Soft water is “water where the hard minerals (calcium and magnesium) have been removed”. But the salt-free marketing guys say that their process leaves the beneficial minerals. Sure, including calcium and magnesium . So, if it doesn’t not soften water, it shouldn’t be called a “WATER SOFTENER.” Yet, that is exactly what they call it.

The way these work they suspend the (calcium and magnesium) they do not remove them. they bind these minerals together. I asked that direct question This is important because if you’re expecting to experience truly “soft” water after installing your NuvoH2O, you’re likely to be disappointed.Therefore, they do not in fact soften water

That’s just a marketing scheme designed to trick you into buying their product.

Only a salt or potassium chloride-based water softener removes the calcium and magnesium.

I am amazed that these companies like Nuvo H2O, Pelican & Rhino continue to get away with their deception and charge upwards of $3,000+

We can install a whole house filter and softener for about $1500

[dewilson58]

I'm not a salesmen, with a conflict of interest, trying to sell my products on ToTV.

I know what I have, I like what I have.

Splitting hairs on definitions is entertaining for some. Opinions do not make facts.

Oh Wait!!!! What did I read on the internet?????:

Word forms: (regular plural) water softeners

noun
(Chemical Engineering: General)
A water softener is a piece of equipment or a place that is used for filtering or treating water to remove the chemicals that cause hardness.

Again fellow Talkers...................I'm not selling.

[Bill32]

To answer the OP original question....we keep the refrigerator filter in and change it once a year.