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CFrance 03-04-2020 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendale (Post 1723343)
I agree they are the best. No filters to replace. System back flushes and cleans itself. Perfect water.

How is that better than replacing the filters? How do you know the back flushing removes everything?



For instance... I have a self-cleaning oven. It does okay but doesn't get everything.


I like having totally new filters put in every 26000 gallons.

ColdNoMore 03-04-2020 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendale (Post 1723343)
I agree they are the best. No filters to replace. System back flushes and cleans itself. Perfect water.


"Back-flushes"
...to where? :confused:

retiredguy123 03-04-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1724182)

"Back-flushes"
...to where? :confused:

The ones I have seen back flush the water using a plastic pipe that is installed through the back wall of the garage, and dumps it into the side yard.

Peteycack 03-04-2020 07:04 PM

Nova all the way. Much easier to do business with a smaller reputable business, Nova is a great company

jimbo2012 03-04-2020 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1724178)
How is that better than replacing the filters? How do you know the back flushing removes everything?

I like having totally new filters put in every 26000 gallons.

Fact no type of carbon can washed clean, contaminants are trapped in millions of microscopic pores. The networks of pores in activated carbons are channels created within a rigid skeleton of disordered layers of carbon atoms, stacked unevenly, creating a highly porous structure of nooks, crannies, cracks and crevices between the carbon layers.

The back washing only washes off surface sediment.

You may think of trying to clean a filthy sponge with water, not happening.

General rule is max of 18 months in a filter system, but actual number of gallons is a more accurate method.

Marathon Man 03-05-2020 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1724178)
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I like having totally new filters put in every 26000 gallons.

I wonder what the filters are like at 25,000 gallons.

jimbo2012 03-05-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1724289)
I wonder what the filters are like at 25,000 gallons.

This is average.

ctmurray 06-12-2020 10:26 AM

After reading this thread we went with NOVA
 
I came to TOTV with the same question. I read this post and all its replies with recommendations. I went to the NOVA web site as well. I went with NOVA. They installed the system and now the water is finally drinkable here. We had been going to Publix and using the vending machine to re-fill bottles. The installation these days is very safe, you just open the garage door and stay in your house.

jimbo2012 06-12-2020 10:33 AM

What brand water machines are they using at publix?

TidalWalkers 06-12-2020 11:21 AM

Had Nova installed a year ago. Quick install and no problems. Main shut off valve is relocated from in the wall and on the floor to easy access. Filter needs to be replaced annually. Last year filter replacement was quoted at $125 and less if one did it themselves. $600 investment versus thousands.

junction29 06-12-2020 12:01 PM

NOVA the best
 
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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1724313)
This is average.

We think Nova is the best, a great product, a great price and a great team of guys 👍👍

If you look at the state of the filters in those pictures, after about a year of use, you will see why there is a need for a house filter system here in TV.

:bigbow::bigbow:

jimbo2012 06-12-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TidalWalkers (Post 1782792)
Had Nova installed a year ago. Quick install and no problems. Main shut off valve is relocated from in the wall and on the floor to easy access. Filter needs to be replaced annually. Last year filter replacement was quoted at $125 and less if one did it themselves. $600 investment versus thousands.

Thanks,

Just to clarify, the filter changes are NOT necessarily annually,
the change is based on 26,000 gallons used not time. (excluding irrigation)

for example if using
2,000 a month 12 months
3,000 a month 9 months
4,000 a month 6.5-7 months

your monthly amenity bill has your water usage stated

However, some villages don't split the bills drinking/irrigation

If those home we offer a meter $89

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Strongel 06-13-2020 07:17 AM

A filter only filters, it’s not a purification system. We installed reverse osmosis, a compact system by Blondell under the sink as well as filters for those times we miss a boil water notice. It’s not as good as whole-house reverse osmosis but gives more peace of mind.

jimbo2012 06-13-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongel (Post 1783277)
A filter only filters, it’s not a purification system. We installed reverse osmosis, a compact system by Blondell under the sink as well as filters for those times we miss a boil water notice. It’s not as good as whole-house reverse osmosis but gives more peace of mind.

Sorry but that's not entirely correct, Nova 3 stage whole house filters do purify to a certain 5 micron level.

We also have 5 stage reverse osmosis units that filter beyond that level into the tenths of a micron.

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I did a full page on these on our website Reverse Osmosis | RO Filter System for the home


As to whole house reverse osmosis they are not practical they require a large 200 gallon holding tank & pumps in the garage and the cost is prohibitive.

If you have the Brondel RO model I think you have it's a 3 or 4 stage not 5, also the replacements are about $80.
ours are $49 for 5

Ours cost the same $250, so you get better value IMO

photo1902 06-13-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1724289)
I wonder what the filters are like at 25,000 gallons.

I can tell you that at our house (just off of Hillsborough) the 9 month old filters looked brand new. As far as noticing any difference in taste or smell of the water, I honestly don’t notice any difference, nor does the wife.

I’ll now go at least 12 months (as the Tech with NOVA recommended) between changes.

jimbo2012 06-13-2020 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1783312)
I can tell you that at our house (just off of Hillsborough) the 9 month old filters looked brand new. As far as noticing any difference in taste or smell of the water, I honestly don’t notice any difference, nor does the wife.

I’ll now go at least 12 months (as the Tech with NOVA recommended) between changes.

It's NOT based on time it's 26,000 gallons, so 9 months in age is not an indicator it's your water bills please see what you use on average per month.

the reason the filters may look clean to the naked eye is because anything less than 15 microns can't be seen with our eyes, however, the first filter always shows dirt in 26,000 gallons.

Bay Kid 06-15-2020 07:30 AM

Love the water meter. I will have you add this when I get the next filter change.

Can I order a system to be shipped to my home in Virginia?

jimbo2012 06-15-2020 07:54 AM

Thanks

Sure we ship worldwide

Sent one recently to Spain a brother of a resident here.

sharonl7340 06-15-2020 12:28 PM

We had Nova installed soon after arriving in Oct 2018 (cost was $610). They recently came out and changed the filters; the tech told us that we live in an area with fairly decent water quality to start with and we could wait up to 2 years before the next filter change. I drink alot of water (100+ oz per day) and water quality is really important to me.

jimbo2012 06-15-2020 01:36 PM

Sharon, I think there was a mis understanding, filter changes are NOT based on time they based on the number of gallons used or the way they look to your eye. :ohdear:

The change point is 26,000 gallons.

Secondly, the way filters look to the naked eye is irrelevant, the filters are trapping particles the human eye can not see.

Since water quality is as important us as yourself change the filters at 26,000 gallon or maximum of 15 months if that # is not reached.

look at your water bills see what your monthly use is.

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if you drink 2 gallons a day that's 1800 a month.
add cooking, bathing, cooking & washing.

I think you are at 7-8 months to use 26,000

Please call for more info

photo1902 06-15-2020 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1783317)
It's NOT based on time it's 26,000 gallons, so 9 months in age is not an indicator it's your water bills please see what you use on average per month.

the reason the filters may look clean to the naked eye is because anything less than 15 microns can't be seen with our eyes, however, the first filter always shows dirt in 26,000 gallons.

Well aware of what my potable usage is. We hit the 26k mark, which happened to be around the 9 month time frame.

And of course I'm basing what I see on the naked eye. Maybe where I live is blessed with cleaner than "average" water.


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