Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1789817)

I've already done the research, I know the common denominator. You tell me what you find. lol
Most violent continent?
Most violent country? (hint, it's in the most violent continent)
Most violent state in the US?
Most violent city in the US?

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1789944)

How about 5.4 MILLION killed in the Congo between 1998 and 2008?
How about between 500,000 and 3 million killed by deliberate starvation in Nigeria during the Biafran war in 1968?
How about around 800,000 killed in Rwanda in 1994 (including a lot of my friends from when I worked there)?
How about close to 50 million dead in China laid at the feet of Chairman Mao? (Over decades)
How about round 100 million killed in the Soviet Union in the name of communism? (Over decades)
Nowhere in our country comes anywhere close. Several of my friends—women in their thirties—were hacked to death with machetes in the church where I worshiped with them. (Ive written about it in my book “They Don’t Eat Missionaries Anymore”.)

Originally Posted by Kgcetm (Post 1790004)

Anyone interested in details of Chicago Mayhem should look at Heyjackass.com. It's a compilation of who shot who. It covers ethnicity, weapon choices and neighborhoods.

Originally Posted by Bikeracer2009 (Post 1790030)

I would hate to be a black person wanting to see positive changes in my country. The violence in black communities drown out their voices and whites only want to argue statistics to justify maintaining the status quo.

If pig farmers in Alabama were shooting each other while poor whites marched in DC for social change how would they feel about the pig farmers? Not the best analogy but I have things to do.

The changes needed to turn these "animals" , "morons" etc into law abiding citizens will not come. So get used to it.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1789570)

Chicago saw its highest number of gun violence victims in a single weekend this year with 104 people shot across the city from Friday evening to Monday morning, 14 of them fatally. Five of those killed were minors.

Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

Chicago shootings: 104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend - Chicago Sun-Times

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1789614)

People need to study the old west a bit and law enforcement during that time. Judge Isaac C. Parker was appointed to the bench for the U.S. Court for the Western District of Arkansas and served there for 21 years. Prior to his appointment to that bench outlaws would rob and kill in various states and then flee to the Indian Territory in Oklahoma where local sheriffs had no jurisdiction. These were hardened and vicious criminals. U.S. Marshals had the only authority there and Judge Parker was placed in charge of the judicial system and deputizing Marshals to go into the Indian Territory to arrest and bring back to Ft. Smith, AR for trial and sentencing. He eventually cleaned up the outlaw problem but it took stern justice to accomplish it. Hangings and lengthy prison sentences were handed out.


Judge Isaac C. Parker
Fort Smith NHS
"I have ever had the single aim of justice in view... 'Do equal and exact justice,' is my motto, and I have often said to the grand jury, 'Permit no innocent man to be punished, but let no guilty man escape.'"
-Judge Isaac C. Parker, 1896

Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1789655)

Good start lets see what 4th July brings

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1789578)

Where are the social workers when you need them?

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1790095)

So tragically true. :(


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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1789614)

People need to study the old west a bit and law enforcement during that time. Judge Isaac C. Parker was appointed to the bench for the U.S. Court for the Western District of Arkansas and served there for 21 years. Prior to his appointment to that bench outlaws would rob and kill in various states and then flee to the Indian Territory in Oklahoma where local sheriffs had no jurisdiction. These were hardened and vicious criminals. U.S. Marshals had the only authority there and Judge Parker was placed in charge of the judicial system and deputizing Marshals to go into the Indian Territory to arrest and bring back to Ft. Smith, AR for trial and sentencing. He eventually cleaned up the outlaw problem but it took stern justice to accomplish it. Hangings and lengthy prison sentences were handed out.
Judge Isaac C. Parker
Fort Smith NHS
"I have ever had the single aim of justice in view... 'Do equal and exact justice,' is my motto, and I have often said to the grand jury, 'Permit no innocent man to be punished, but let no guilty man escape.'"
-Judge Isaac C. Parker, 1896

Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1789776)

It's not good theater. The MSM has an agenda, and it's filled with false rampant racism. They love what they are doing to America, they hate America, they hate the Police....................period.

Steve

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1789785)

Come on, you're way smarter than that. Cops kill just as many white people as they do black. But that seldom makes the news. Why? Why?

I read in one of your previous posts, and I'll paraphrase, that you felt that there were/are external influences driving the discourse in this country. And I'll just guess that you feel that maybe some foreign powers are at work here? If that's the case I certainly agree with you. If you meant something else I'd love to hear what you meant.

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1789797)

Well, exciting....yes I meant what you thought and nice that we agree. Those outside influences are strong, and one of the reasons I support more stringent enforcement of existing TOTV rules about copyright protection and the clear showing of sources for the cut and paste.

On the other, my only point was the discussion about the killing of people BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR gets turned around to defend police (they do not defending, just ckeaning up) or violence in general. Killing another human being is beyond horrible, but killing another human simply because he is of some skin color is detestable. Each time, some choose not to accept what the conversation should be about and turn it to satisfy some other motive.

Then turning it around, to me, is simply ignoring the issue. I believe in confronting an issue. That cannot be done on a forum, yet I see judgements, accusations, and not very well disguised hate.

And if you agree on the outside influences, join me on here, as we seem to ignore the ludicrous conspiracy theories bandied about with one purpose....divide us further than we are. Seems every story comes with a theory manufactured, but bought into and away we go.

One which covers both subjects is the theory that George Soros pays for protests. It has no basis in any fact and is simply spread on those questionable sites, yet on TOTV, I see folks posting as an accepted fact.

Originally Posted by amexsbow (Post 1790157)

Couldn't disagree more. You are conflating individual actions to encompass all caucasians. This is exactly what BLM, Antifa, and their sycophants in the MSM do. The whole objective of all these radical groups and spokespeople is to destroy the current government, education, and social makeup of America and replace it with their socialist utopia, (Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.)
If you think I am making this up I suggest you google the ringleaders and people behind these social changes and read it in their own words.

Originally Posted by seoulbrooks (Post 1789867)

black lives matter when they can frame it in racism and push their agenda to destroy the United States. Black lives will really matter when you see concern for all lives being lost in the inner cities. BLM and Corporate News could care less about the real cause of black lives being lost. How many lives in the inner cities are being saved by destroying statues of history? The real subject of their destruction is the American way of life. People need to wise up. Stop electing political idiots that just promote or stand by and watch the destruction while playing right along with the BLM agenda.

Would be nice to have some discussions and real solutions to all the killing in our cities, not just agenda driven BS.

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1789923)

It's encouraging to read from so many, who are against the senseless tragedies of so much violence.

"Encouraging" that is, as long as those same folks recognize...the inherit roots of this violence.

That being areas of poverty where drugs and gangs seem to be the only option for so many young black people, because they've lost hope that they'll ever be...treated and given the same opportunities as whites.

So if your are truly aghast at this violence, hopefully you are as equally outraged and speaking up, about the disparities in income, opportunities and treatment...by our society as a whole.

Why do I have a strong hunch though...that isn't gong to happen? :oops:


If you were in this crowd, but fail to recognize the truth that Jane Elliott is saying (and proved - Brown Eyes-Blue Eyes (Click Here) ) and wouldn't have stood up either...then it's time to look inward. :ohdear:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1790251)

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1789570)

Chicago saw its highest number of gun violence victims in a single weekend this year with 104 people shot across the city from Friday evening to Monday morning, 14 of them fatally. Five of those killed were minors.

Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

Chicago shootings: 104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend - Chicago Sun-Times

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1789956)

For those not familiar with Jane Elliott, which is a huge shame in itself that her work isn't being taught in every school in America...here she and her famous experiment/exercise are explained.


Brown Eyes - Blue Eyes Exercise (poke here)




And some of the responses to her exercise?

Well, let's just say the same attitudes (as so perfectly demonstrated by some of the posts in this thread)...exist today with a whole lot of folks. :ohdear:



The main takeaway that people need to really get, is that racism, bigotry, prejudice is NOT predestined...it is TAUGHT. :ohdear:


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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1789570)

Chicago saw its highest number of gun violence victims in a single weekend this year with 104 people shot across the city from Friday evening to Monday morning, 14 of them fatally. Five of those killed were minors.

Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

Chicago shootings: 104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend - Chicago Sun-Times

Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1790080)

Anyone who grew up in a large metro area when we were young knows that urban violence that big cities are experiencing today would never have been tolerated when we were young. Things really started to change in law enforcement and society about 1980. In the 50’s, 60’s and even the 70’s large police departments would have never put up with today’s violence. Today they want nicer touchy feely social worker police officers. Citizens want a safe environment and expect the police to handle it while the police officer worries about every decision he or she might make. They know that the police brass will not back them if they were to make that split second decision that is controversial. I am in no way condoning police brutality or supporting those bad apples. It all started with the breakdown of the family unit and discipline in school.

Originally Posted by regas56 (Post 1790084)

It's like the Nicholson movie A Few Good Men "I want the TRUTH" "You can't handle the TRUTH".. I live minutes from Ferguson Missouri and during the riots and burnings they (the media) made it look like an entire city was burning, it was not, you could ride your bike through it in a minute or two.. They made it look like 1000's of residents were destroying their own city, they were not, the residents were all barricaded in their homes while young outsiders were torching and looting.. I saw the BLM group form up close and personal and immediately knew it was here to stay because just like the Vietnam protests and the Weather Underground revolution young impressionable people need a "cause".. I work in and around Ferguson among other similar areas still today and I can tell you that I know 1st hand no less than 98% of these residents LOVE the Police and do NOT want them defunded by even one penny and they actually want MORE police in their neighborhoods not less most also do NOT support BLM in any way shape or form.. These wonderful people really just want to be left alone to raise their children in a safe drug free, gang free neighborhood away from the news camera's but sadly our Media won't show these great people, they just want to show the guns and knives and fires along with the very small group of anarchists that use them..That's the "Truth"..

Originally Posted by amexsbow (Post 1790157)

Couldn't disagree more. You are conflating individual actions to encompass all caucasians. This is exactly what BLM, Antifa, and their sycophants in the MSM do. The whole objective of all these radical groups and spokespeople is to destroy the current government, education, and social makeup of America and replace it with their socialist utopia, (Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.)
If you think I am making this up I suggest you google the ringleaders and people behind these social changes and read it in their own words.