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Mumbles 07-23-2020 09:10 AM

Strikes
 
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Originally Posted by Eg_cruz@comcast.net (Post 1807446)
Maybe time for the “3 Strikes and your out” law in Fl

There are so many problems with the 3 strikes concept, that loads of people have fallen through the grate and been destroyed. Who said that 3 is the right number, and based on what evidence?

If we want to get anybody on 3 strikes, we are assuming two things: 1) We are much better than the convicted person....something like a perfect human being which, I'm sure, we have never, ever known. and 2) I find it unfortunate that we have to beat up number 3 with so much overuse. Seems to me like an easy number that humans appear to live comfortably with. Rushing to judgement? Well?

Mumbles 07-23-2020 09:42 AM

Hmmmm...
 
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Originally Posted by Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com (Post 1807523)
Remember that our Country population is about 6% of the World’s population. Also remember that we also have 75% of all the Lawyers in the WORLD, perhaps that is where the problem lies!!!!!!!!

Interesting. In Israel, there are 585 lawyers per 100,000 inhabitants; that's 170 people per lawyer. [Statista.com]. In the US, in 2019, there were 1,350,000 lawyers/attorneys. US population was around 328 million. in 2019 (an educated guess since there hadn't been a census in a while) there were 242 people per attorney.

The judiciary system is holding its breath, it seems, to listen for the bursting of that bubble and the numbers crash:)

DDToto41 07-23-2020 10:26 AM

Someone had to tell the police what happened. It sounded like the young brother was the informant, the main character wouldn't talk and his girl friend was acting badly towards the police so it had to be him as no one else was there to see what happened. The police knew in detail what had happened, so the young brother had to turn states witness.

Rosebud1949 07-23-2020 11:02 AM

When and only when the punishment fits the crime will we get folk like this off the streets....... Some say the death penalty is cruel. Think of the victims before you make that call. Nothing is more cruel than that.

Number 10 GI 07-23-2020 11:59 AM

Back in the late 70's I worked as a Military Police desk sergeant at Ft. Hood, TX. One of the MP's made an apprehension of an individual for committing armed robbery on the installation. A few days later I talked with the criminal investigator handing the case, he said they had identified him as the suspect in 7 other armed robberies and were still in the process of calling in victims from other cases to see if he was responsible for their robbery. 320 arrests are only the ones he was caught doing something illegal.

donassaid 07-23-2020 01:58 PM

He should be EXECUTED, not making license plates.

Baywayric 07-23-2020 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 1807554)
Sheriff Joe Arpaio (may he Rest In Peace) of Arizona, did it right, before he was sued and shut down.

Fortunately, Sheriff Joe is alive and well and planning to run for Sheriff again in 2020.

Shimpy 07-23-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807268)
One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

Yes, and the judge who let him go should serve the same sentence as him since if he was still in jail this wouldn't have happened. If judges could be held responsible for the prisoners actions that they released there would be a lot less repeat offenders.

davem4616 07-23-2020 09:53 PM

by any reasonable measure 230 complaints = a bad guy

sad that he was able to 'get a pass' for so long...now he's killed people

anyone that suggests that this bad actor may just be misunderstood or a victim of his environment needs to get their stuff together....this thug belonged behind bars a long time ago

JimJohnson 07-24-2020 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1807312)
Sounds like the perfect candidate for execution ... we can do without the license plates

...

I agree, if and when someone becomes a danger to society then it is time to humanly euthanize them.

jimmio 07-24-2020 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807268)
One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

230 charges, not 230 convictions. He's still a scumbag but being charged and being convicted are 2 different things.

graciegirl 07-24-2020 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmio (Post 1807917)
230 charges, not 230 convictions. He's still a scumbag but being charged and being convicted are 2 different things.

Yeah, but close. You remember when every teacher told you that whatever you did your permanent record would follow you all of your life???

And that old saw "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior"??

And your mom says when you are rummaging in the fridge, "If it smells bad, throw it out"?

I used to believe that we should give everyone a chance or two to do things right but now I am leaning toward the view that people are born with certain personalities that make them completely selfish and remorseless.

Although I have corrected some really bad habits and am still working on others. Sigh.

I can tell you this. No one reading this would have wanted him dating our daughter.

J1ceasar 07-24-2020 07:24 AM

Maybe 1 time 2 time or 3 times. Not 230+

Steve32162 07-24-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807268)
230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions!

No, it was 230 felony CHARGES. He was CONVICTED 15 times. And I doubt the convictions for only one charge at a time, so who knows how many charges resulted in a conviction.

rmd2 07-24-2020 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Baywayric (Post 1807721)
Fortunately, Sheriff Joe is alive and well and planning to run for Sheriff again in 2020.

I hope so. I heard him speak at a small community outreach program in Phoenix. Sheriff Joe knows the law and he refuses to make prisons a comfortable place where law breakers want to come back. I really like his common sense approach to the treatment of criminals.

donassaid 07-24-2020 03:39 PM

Really? 230 times? I don't know of a single person that has been innocently charged even twice.

valuemkt 07-24-2020 03:49 PM

are you crazy ?
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1807319)
I agree he is not an average citizen, but you can't put him in jail until you convict him.

They can certainly be held without bail until trial, based upon past history.

Left4850 07-26-2020 11:50 AM

230 felony charges 15 actual felony convictions not good either.


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