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27 people that tested positive on a cruise is just a headline. To draw any conclusions you have to understand testing which is way more complicated the just a positive test .

Heres what's important . Vaccines work .

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If you are looking to catch or spread Covid (JUST GET ON A CRUISE SHIP) You may live or die or kill some one.. Sounds like a blast

Hence the problem with the vaccine. Fortunately, no one got seriously ill but they could have or spread it to a passenger who would get very ill. IMO, these ships are dangerous incubators for disease in the best of times.

I think we must admit now that the vaccinated can contract the virus and give it to others, but it keeps symptoms manageable for most, but not all. Another question I have is can you get it again? We have no clue as to whether those who have the spike protein antibodies from the vaccine but also get COVID anyway will acquire natural immunity so you don't get the same virus twice. I think not.

Wanna bet that a vaccine resistant and dangerous variant will originate on a cruise ship? I hope I lose that bet but unfortunately I don't think I will. :pray:

Try harder, that post doesn't cut it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

And this makes it different from thousands of other viruses out there ---how??????

I agree IMO the testing maybe flawed. Maybe they need to 3 out 5, or 4 out of 7 tests before they say people has Covid.

I remember, years ago, when everyone freaked out if someone onboard came down with the plain old flu.Floating petri dishes.... Each to his/her own!

And this virus never should made the jump to humans. They mutated it IMO enough natural virus, they don’t need help crossing the bridge.

No cruising for me until this mess is behind us.

Name ONE other VIRUS immunization that is required so you can choose from eating, going where you want, or even just working for a living for.....JUST ONE! Yeah....I'm waiting........THIS IS CONTROL!

OK---seasonal flu shots for hospital workers Wait over.

Want another on that limits where you can go?

"A required vaccine is one that travelers must have in order to enter a country, based on that country’s government regulations. In most circumstances, yellow fever is the only vaccine required by certain countries. Keep in mind that yellow fever vaccine can be recommended by CDC to protect your health, as well as required by a country. CDC’s recommendation is different from the country’s requirement. A vaccine recommendation is designed to keep you from getting yellow fever; a vaccine requirement is the country’s attempt to keep travelers from bringing the yellow fever virus into the country. Vaccine requirements can change at any time, because country governments control those decisions." (from CDC website)

At it's peak, about 30 million people traveled on cruise ships each year. The numbers are obviously way down and may stay that way for some time. While it is possible that a variant will develop on a cruise ship where essentially everyone is fully vaccinated, my money is on future variants coming from the 5.8 billion people (about 75% of the world's population) who have not yet been fully vaccinated.

A nasty variant might come from the unvaccinated - or because of the vaccines themselves. There's a couple of different theories about that.

However, I can't get it out of my mind that COVID came from the cruise ships onto the U.S. mainland. The crew and passengers visit various ports of call around the world and they pick stuff up along the way. It's actually quite logical, but I'm just saying for those who fear contact with the virus in any form should not cruise.

Yeah! I watch the news.

So...99.98% of a ship's crew is vacinated. How'd they come up with that number? Better phase might be where did they pull that one out of???:girlneener:

I read the article and the 26 people with Covid were not crew members. It said 99.98 percent of the crew were vaccinated. Break through infections are most common in those over 65 or in people with weakened immune systems who have had treatment for cancer or are taking medications that cause the body to have a weak immune response. I would only sail with a cruise line that did not allow any unvaccinated passengers/crew to sail. That means no children or unvaccinated guests. Cruise ships have a high number of people in a relatively small area and viruses can spread rapidly.

Covid top gov leadership is floating the idea of vaccine passports to travel between states.

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And that is when shi. hits the fan. The repercussions of that would be catastrophic for this country

Which states have no pediatric beds? None that I am aware of.

I suspect that the probability that the Delta variant arrived on our shores from a cruise ship is exceeding low. Many more people travel by air than cruise ships. The person sitting next to you on an airplane is a foot away from you.

The number of vaccinated crew divided by the total number of crew times 100. They probably had 1 unvaccinated crew member.

I agree.

But say that that imbecilic idea is actually tried. A government action requiring the TSA to ascertain your vaccination status before allowing you to board an airplane for a different state could conceivably be done, but how about travel by road? They gonna build border walls? Maybe have checkpoints on all interstate highways? The logistics involved in enforcing such a decree would be mind-boggling.

I, for one, want such a decree to come down from the Federal government. The quicker it is, the quicker the SCOTUS can shoot it down.

Maybe the passengers forged their cards.

Our government ahead of the curve if cruising to Afghanistan
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The CDC now requires all Taliban to be fully vaccinated before entering the US Embassy in Kabul and possibly spreading a new Covid 19 variant to embassy workers indoors.

Yes, but COVID-19 arrived by boat. Actually, it was probably already here we were just unaware but technically speaking those first cases were on those cruise ships that had to be quarantined.

Doubtful. The virus most likely first arrived by air from China. Later on there were undoubtedly cases coming in from multiple locations. However, try to stay on point, the subject is variants.

When Did the Coronavirus Arrive in the U.S.? Here’s a Review of the Evidence. - The New York Times

You've got the wrong thread. The subject isn't variants, it's how 27 people aboard a cruise ship tested positive for COVID.

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Totally agree !!!!!