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BumpaOompa 05-22-2021 09:06 AM

There’s going to be a baby boom in The Villages!!

Gabi12 05-22-2021 09:09 AM

😂😂😂

Boomer 05-22-2021 09:09 AM

If this country does not get moderates in power, we (well, actually our children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren) are going to have a mess of a country — from all directions.

On one side, hate and conspiracy theories and re-writing history (Orwellian-style) are ruling people I thought were normal, people I have known all my life. I think there is neuroscience behind some of this that has converted the thought processes of the susceptible.

The common denominator is that they tune into screens that constantly hammer the emotional part of their brains with fear, hate, paranoia, urgency — negative emotions — until obsession kicks in and takes over their lives, launching them into a frenzied alternative universe where lies are truth and truth is lies — and, sadly, often poisoning longterm relationships.

Btw, the use of references to the novel 1984 that we so often see thrown around by conspiracy theorists and their ilk is a bassakwards reference. In Orwell’s book, there are 4 Ministries with titles that mean the opposite. The Ministry of Truth is actually the department of propaganda. Orwell must be spinning in his grave to see his dystopian novel used as part of the current propaganda machine. Maybe they should actually read the book — won’t happen though.

On the other side, I am seeing things I do not understand, and I keep thinking I must be missing something. This child credit thing is one of those things.

If the government wants to actually do something to lift children from poverty, the money would be more effectively spent by setting up and staffing well-run daycares and pre-schools for working parents whose earning ability does not allow them to get ahead — but they are going to work. This would not only make childcare accessible for lower-earning working families, but it would give the children a good start on learning.

I also think there should be more of an incentive for corporations to set up on-site childcare to be available for working women. I know some employers have this, but not enough do. I think this could be an excellent use of tax incentives for employers.

As I said, I do not understand this child credit thing, but my first thought is that it is naive. Actual planning time and money could be far better spent on an overall plan to help working parents with an ongoing investment in facilities and staffing for childcare and early education.

If such a thing were to actually happen on a nationwide scale, all of our society would benefit. Doling out money to individuals looks to me like a naive attempt at a quick-fix that might work for a percentage of families, but a lot of it will fall through the cracks — as do so many of our nation’s children.

I am truly and deeply concerned that hate and lies are winning the fight for the Soul of America. One side has morphed into something monstrous that will devour us. But the naïveté on the other side needs to be turned into the planning of real, longterm solutions. But as people go, I will take decency and caring any day — although they need to moderate and take time to think through some of the plans for how to really help children for generations to come.
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If you have read this, you have seen what a moderate looks like — albeit a socially, slightly left-leaning moderate with a head for money and a strong opinion on how the government could spend wisely to do some actual good.

Boomer — a for-real moderate (an endangered species)

golfing eagles 05-22-2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1948718)
If this country does not get moderates in power, we (well, actually our children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren) are going to have a mess of a country — from all directions.

On one side, hate and conspiracy theories and re-writing history (Orwellian-style) are ruling people I thought were normal, people I have known all my life. I think there is neuroscience behind some of this that has converted the thought processes of the susceptible.

The common denominator is that they tune into screens that constantly hammer the emotional part of their brains with fear, hate, paranoia, urgency — negative emotions — until obsession kicks in and takes over their lives, launching them into a frenzied alternative universe where lies are truth and truth is lies — and, sadly, often poisoning longterm relationships.

Btw, the use of references to the novel 1984 that we so often see thrown around by conspiracy theorists and their ilk is a bassakwards reference. In Orwell’s book, there are 4 Ministries with titles that mean the opposite. The Ministry of Truth is actually the department of propaganda. Orwell must be spinning in his grave to see his dystopian novel used as part of the current propaganda machine. Maybe they should actually read the book — won’t happen though.

On the other side, I am seeing things I do not understand, and I keep thinking I must be missing something. This child credit thing is one of those things.

If the government wants to actually do something to lift children from poverty, the money would be more effectively spent by setting up and staffing well-run daycares and pre-schools for working parents whose earning ability does not allow them to get ahead — but they are going to work. This would not only make childcare accessible for lower-earning working families, but it would give the children a good start on learning.

I also think there should be more of an incentive for corporations to set up on-site childcare to be available for working women. I know some employers have this, but not enough do. I think this could be an excellent use of tax incentives for employers.

As I said, I do not understand this child credit thing, but my first thought is that it is naive. Actual planning time and money could be far better spent on an overall plan to help working parents with an ongoing investment in facilities and staffing for childcare and early education.

If such a thing were to actually happen on a nationwide scale, all of our society would benefit. Doling out money to individuals looks to me like a naive attempt at a quick-fix that might work for a percentage of families, but a lot of it will fall through the cracks — as do so many of our nation’s children.

I am truly and deeply concerned that hate and lies are winning the fight for the Soul of America. The party of most of my past has morphed into something monstrous that will devour us. But the naïveté from the other side needs to be brought in line.

If you have read this, you have seen what a moderate looks like — albeit a socially, slightly left-leaning moderate with a head for money and a strong opinion on how the government could spend it wisely to do some actual good.

Boomer — a for-real moderate (an endangered species)

So when are you starting your run for US Senate???? I'd be happy to contribute!

Spalumbos62 05-22-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1948405)
Yeah right, because the decent option of putting your knees together, sitting up and saying no is much worse than killing a baby. To say nothing of all the other options; the pill, IUD’s, condoms, foam, tubal ligation, etc. that are available. Just step up and murder your mistake.:ohdear:


Don't be ridiculous, it's not that simple..

ellenwelsh 05-22-2021 09:34 AM

It’s the EIC being paid in advance.

karostay 05-22-2021 09:39 AM

Get ready for explosion of single parent children

Tennisbum 05-22-2021 09:40 AM

our money, not the governments, to help support those who can't afford their offspring.......

Boomer 05-22-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1948725)
So when are you starting your run for US Senate???? I'd be happy to contribute!

Oh my, my, ge, that is the sweetest thing I have read around here lately — and it did not go unnoticed that you did not use your little rolling-around-laughing emoticons so I am taking your comment at face value. Thanks. :)

Seriously, had I been born later maybe I coulda, woulda, shoulda been a contender.

But I was busy teaching secondary ed for 35 years. (Taught 1984 in 1984 and now wondering if any of my students remember those discussions.)

We early boomer women were often English teachers instead of lawyers and nurses instead of doctors and math teachers instead of engineers. It was the way it was. We graduated from high school on the cusp of change but at that point, if going to college, many of us followed the traditional track for women — but at least we had “The Pill” to offer us more freedom.

Boomer

DAVES 05-22-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1947956)
Did I hear correct that starting in July the govern will pay $3,000. per month, per child, for the poor?

I cannot comprehend where we are today.

Seems I was raised wrong. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

Economic REALITY. If, you tax something you will have less of it. If you subsidized something you will have more of it. Our tax code, am I the only one to ask do we NEED
fewer kids from financially sound homes and more poor kids?

Byte1 05-22-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1948710)
Since there are no poor people with children, living in The Villages, one wonders what the original intent of this post is. Perhaps to cause more division? You people who are so upset that you have to help poor children, seem to have no problem with billionaires getting tax breaks. Billionaires getting welfare is fine, but hungry kids getting a helping hand? Nope.

I do not know where you reside, but you will not find another community that devotes time and money to fund raise and collect items for needy children and food pantries/soup kitchens, animal rescue, etc. as much as it is done in the Villages. Some communities have monthly collections of food donations. And Billionaires getting to keep some of their money that has been confiscated/demanded by the gov. is not considered "welfare" by anyone other than the have-nots that are jealous of the achievements of their betters. And the rich really DO help the economy. Their purchases alone end up providing many jobs, federal revenues in taxes, etc. How many poor folks hire employees? Trickle down really does work, regardless of the attempts by some to brainwash you into believing otherwise.

DAVES 05-22-2021 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1948734)
Don't be ridiculous, it's not that simple..

Actually it is that simple. Self responsibility. Perhaps a strange concept for too many.
I worked, I paid my bills, including my college loans. Do explain why I should now pay the bills of others. I PAID MINE.

Byte1 05-22-2021 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1948734)
Don't be ridiculous, it's not that simple..

Totally agree. When one is in heat it is impossible to say "no" or hesitate long enough to obtain a birth control device. After all, aren't we all just another example of the many animal species GOD created on earth? Thinking is discarded when in heat, right?

Byte1 05-22-2021 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1948796)
Actually it is that simple. Self responsibility. Perhaps a strange concept for too many.
I worked, I paid my bills, including my college loans. Do explain why I should now pay the bills of others. I PAID MINE.

Standby because soon you will be paying for EVERYONE's children to go to college. Got your kids' student loans paid off yet? Their friends will be able to obtain the same education your kids paid for, only FREE. Actually, you get to pay for it via your taxes.

DAVES 05-22-2021 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1948791)
I do not know where you reside, but you will not find another community that devotes time and money to fund raise and collect items for needy children and food pantries/soup kitchens, animal rescue, etc. as much as it is done in the Villages. Some communities have monthly collections of food donations. And Billionaires getting to keep some of their money that has been confiscated/demanded by the gov. is not considered "welfare" by anyone other than the have-nots that are jealous of the achievements of their betters. And the rich really DO help the economy. Their purchases alone end up providing many jobs, federal revenues in taxes, etc. How many poor folks hire employees? Trickle down really does work, regardless of the attempts by some to brainwash you into believing otherwise.

Reality. People are and always have been the same. You will never see anyone, any organization say you have given enough do not give any more. An interesting to me example, The march of dimes, i am not implying they are crooked. It was set up for polio aid. Polio no longer exists. The charity still does.

As far as the rich, you do not want to work for the poor. Your check that you need to pay
your bills, it is more than a little problem when you boss bounces checks, delays mailing them out of the classic the check was lost in the mail-we will send you a replacement in
two weeks.


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