This may very well be true, and thoughtful people hear it--and evaluate it for what it's worth. But is it meant to be a smokescreen to hide the reality of what is taking place in hospitals throughout the country as described by the OP? Is the reality that the vast majority of stricken and dying Covid patients are unvaccinated to be denied or ignored, just because many Covid patients--vaccinated AND unvaccinated--do recover? What a tragedy--and we are far from being finished with Covid , just as Covid is far from being finished with us....

A few friends and a "so-called lot of people" does NOT compare to the RIGOROUS work done by the CDC and the FDA to ensure the GREATEST possible safety before getting ANY vaccine out to the public. Those few "I know people"-type people are statistically like an N of NOTHING. The main important statistic is that 99% of the CV DEATHS are from UNvaccinated people. Many of them have begged from their hospital beds of their friends and family members, "get your **** shots!"

Hey, golfing eagles, MD,,

I gotta hand it to you. That thing you wrote about the buck nekkid v. the full clothed running through the poison ivy is a terrific analogy.

But then there is the imagery. . .:eek:. . .Oh well, anyway, that's some seriously good wordsmithing you just did. Makes your point perfectly.

Thanks.

Boomer


. . .And, hey, Mintzer, stop trying to get this thread shut down. I know it is turning into a lot of the usual, but I want to address my original post from a different angle, and I don't have time right now.

So let it ride. Don't cry, "foul" -- because it is not. And, btw, I like your new picture. That's a great haircut.

Boomer, again

Are they any angles left?

Why does an internet search for Karen Gallardo ONLY turn up this opinion piece submitted to the Los Angeles Times as an editorial?

Also, cancer is not a virus. Good luck finding that vaccine.

#TwoWeeksToFlattenTheCurve

Google "gardasil"

Great post! Alabama has more deaths than births for the 1st time ever - a record brought about by the people like the one in that picture UNDER the graveyard marker. And a sendoff with so much PAIN. But, he/she like so many Alabamians showed "those government stooges" how to have "free spirit" and how to die for that GREAT CAUSE of.........now what was that cause again? Oh yeah, it goes something like - reject empathy for other humans and think about only themselves.......yeah, that free will. But, write out that paper WILL 1st before you go to your anti-vaxxer meetings.

Maybe that US overpopulation situation is SELF-CORRECTING. An old-timey great philosopher once said something like - wars and pestulance will keep the world's population in check!

I wholeheartedly agree with that post. Boomerperson for king of the world! All hail the king!

Why did you single out Alabama?

It happened in multiple states... We have an aging population...

https://carsey.unh.edu/sites/default...?itok=pLRO_cKd

Gardasil doesn't "prevent cancer". It prevents HPV - human papilloma virus. HPV isn't cancer. It's a virus (thus, the V in HPV). HPV is the leading cause of cervical cancer, but doesn't always cause it. In fact, most adult woman have, or have had at some point in their lives, HPV, and most of them haven't ever had cervical cancer. In addition, there are women who have (or had) cervical cancer but didn't (don't) have HPV.

So far the % is low but strangely, everyone I personally know that has contracted COVID has been previously vaccinated including my granddaughter. All had fairly minor cases and recovered nicely. All anecdotal I know but it makes me view the vaccine more as an effective therapeutic.

I still think there has been a lack of a risk/benefit analysis. Our age bracket, vaccine certainly makes sense and the risk from vaccine is less than the risk from COVID.

Younger generations, I'm not so sure.

This Covid surge is like that ad for Jaws 2 with that bumpa, bumpa, bumpa music in the background -- and the guy would say, "Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water."

We boomers and beyond will not be taking the rap for this one.

As I said in the intro I wrote for the Op-Ed piece that started this thread, I have friends who are heartbroken because their adult children refuse to get the vaccine, not to protect themselves and not even to protect their own children by adding a layer of protection for them, and not to protect their own parents. And the parents, our age, are left feeling, "So. What am I? Chopped liver?"

Yes. They try hard to accept what their kids are saying and doing. But this one is beyond just disagreement. This one is skewing family relationships.

At first I thought about what could be the common denominator affecting the boomer-spawn that is making them act this way. But then I came to the conclusion that it's a spectrum -- a range of reasons.

I think the fact that the boomers' offspring were early adapters to screens is a factor.

I remember a study when they were children that said they were far more influenced by their friends than by their parents. Of course, now their friends, or pretend friends, are available 24/7 online.

Or is it because of that everybody gets a trophy routine that made them think they were the center of the universe?

What is it?

Our little family is all vaccinated and as completely mystified as I am by the behavior of some of those around us -- well, not so much around us for now -- we are avoiding them -- and I don't like doing that.

We are living our lives, not huddled in our houses, but it bothers me to make my world smaller. But I do.

I hope this will not turn into a link-fest. Families and friendships are hurting. Any thoughts on generational influences? I know the boomer-offspring are not any smarter than us -- well, except for that thing about not wanting china or silver or crystal. That's pretty smart.

Boomer

But, when the die it’s cause they smoked due to lung issues that cause respiratory failure.

Good that you have a plan. We hope it works for you. I’ll bet you plan a trip to the hospital if things go wrong. This is the situation the health care workers don’t want.

You chose to go rogue. That is ok. Part of that choice should be to give up your priority in the hospitals. Too many of the unvaxed are in ICU. Did they not get Mca in time? Maybe they missed that part of the plan. That is why the vaccine is a big deal.

Personally, I have your plan and the vaccine in my plan. I will gamble with my money, but not so with my life.