Covid vaccination is becoming a religion.

Thanks for helping make my point.

And once again:

If your position is that data from sources that don't fit your opinion are questionable or inflated then I guess you will always be correct.

The 300,000 number for yearly deaths from obesity can be found from multiple sources. The 670,000+ deaths from Covid can be found from multiple sources including JHU and CDC. The 580,000+ excess deaths in 2020 can be found on the CDC pages - they were caused by something and Covid was the biggest "something" happening last year.

Why should I care if people are unvaccinated? I have answered that several times and alluded to it in the response you quoted. Did you read it?

"Research" means significantly more than finding an article the fifth page of a Duck Duck Go search that agrees with your preconceived opinion or copying a forum post from a person who emphatically asserts that they alone are right and all the "so-called scientists" were just part of a conspiracy.

Now you're just making things up.

Want to be vaccinated? Fine. Now you're good.

People will resist your tyranny / religion.

We can also say freedom and personal responsibility have died, and too many are comfortable being told how to think. Perhaps some would feel more comfortable in places like NYC where they treat the people like children and government like parents; bad parents but parents just the same.

It appears one person is talking psychology and the other hard science.

They are the same as chalk and cheese.

OK, you say the vaccine is 99% safe, and we are told by the CDC that 99.8+ of those under 65 infected with covid recover fine, I would say it is still a personal choice. What is right for you may not be right for a 30 year old in perfect health. With non vaxxed people presenting the same risk to you as a vaxxed person (Oxford Study), why do you care. Take care of yourself and let others make their own choices.

It reminds me of when someone makes a poor choice. They go on a crusade to say everyone must do as they did. Perhaps it makes them feel less foolish if everyone makes the same choice as they did. The threat of covid is wildly different for different people. Depending on age and health, a very reasonable argument can be made not to get the jab.

Actually, the thrust of this thread is exactly how people die from Covid.

It is an awful death and for the first time in man's history, people are having to die without their loved ones.

Boomer brought up and excellent subject. Very real and pertinent. Very, very sad indeed.

This can be avoided by getting two shots in your arm.

Pictures in 2020 of hospital ward in Italy with covid patients. - Bing images

Until someone puts a gun to your head, it's your choice, of course.

Of course, there are smart choices and stupid choices..........

Oxford study showed similar percentage and similar viral loads of the Delta Variant in vax'd and non vax'd.

Nothing shows they were for covid patients. The site has been used by the city since the 19th century as a public cemetery for unclaimed people and those whose families can’t afford private burials. I can get photos every month of graves being dug there and bodies buried.It is reports like these, or over reporting covid ICU cases by 50%, or demanding those with natural immunity get the shot, that create mistrust.