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Taltarzac725 06-04-2022 04:05 PM
Now that is an action that should help. It is from June 2, 2022. Prohibited Man Arrested for Possessing Guns & Ammunition | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

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From ATF-Los Angeles: “Operations-West Bureau’s LAPD/ATF Gun Violence Reduction Task Force arrests a convicted felon & seizes 2 AR-type pistols, a 9 mm gun, suppressor, 2 body armor plates, drugs w/fentanyl and a cache of magazines & ammunition.”

ElDiabloJoe 06-04-2022 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2102471)
Would YOU put a sign on your front door. “Gun/free Zone”. Hmm.
Or the equal "Come victimize me!" sign, the Co-exist sticker. That just tells me the occupant of the car/home will let me do as I want if they feel sorry for me or I am in a traditionally under-represented group. Heck, the Co-exist sticker guy probably won't even call the cops on me.

I heard a lawyer one time talking about having his car stolen. It was found, severely damaged, about 4 blocks from where it was stolen. The lawyer's reaction? "That guy must have needed it (the car) more than I did." Really? No, that guy took your property and went for a joyride that ended poorly and cost the lawyer money." The thief did not NEED the car to get to a job, or bring food home to his family or take them to urgent medical care.

Some people just insist on being victims, and then some even more exceptional ones advertise they want to be victims (Gun free zone / co-exist stickers). Those signs/stickers just tell me the possessor is a moron.

ElDiabloJoe 06-04-2022 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2102157)
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I am 100% in favor of strongly enforced universal background checks. It will NOT solve the problem, it will help.
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Does this "100% in favor..." comment of yours apply to drivers' licenses and voting registration also? If not, why not?

jimjamuser 06-04-2022 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2102619)
Does this "100% in favor..." comment of yours apply to drivers' licenses and voting registration also? If not, why not?
I believe that the 2020 election was the safest in history.

kcrazorbackfan 06-05-2022 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2101758)
Oh Geez, that's easy. You're not gonna like the answer though:

1. Two-parent homes for raising children;
2. A stay-at home parent;
3. Put away "participation trophies" and teach kids that heartbreak and losing are life lessons and doing so gracefully is important;
4. Return to discipline. Kids are your responsibility to society, NOT your new cuddly best friend for you to pamper and indulge;
5. Return to a shared moral code. In the past, it was Christianity and regular church attendance;
6. Return to community norms. No more, "but it's their culture to be rude" excuses. Abide by community standards or face social ostracism;
7. A return to accountability and personal responsibility for one's actions and behaviors.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Lindsyburnsy 06-05-2022 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2101750)
Tulsa, OK, hospital, 4 killed.....what is the answer to these Killings
Stop easy access to guns and start up the ban again on AR type weapons that blast people to smithereens in seconds. This doesn't happen in other countries and it shouldn't happen in the U.S.

Lindsyburnsy 06-05-2022 05:55 PM
So, we can cure all this violence by going backward in time to the 1950s? No thank you.

Michael G. 06-05-2022 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2102550)
Agree completely.

"Social media". The ultimate oxymoron.
"Talk of the Villages? is social media. :boom:
What's on your mine?

Michael G. 06-05-2022 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2102590)

I mean - do you really not know that there are criminals living in the Villages?
Nope, there is none.
I know for sure because someone here said this is the safest place to live.
Check with the developer offices and all the visitor centers.
Not happening.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-05-2022 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2102617)
Or the equal "Come victimize me!" sign, the Co-exist sticker. That just tells me the occupant of the car/home will let me do as I want if they feel sorry for me or I am in a traditionally under-represented group. Heck, the Co-exist sticker guy probably won't even call the cops on me.

I heard a lawyer one time talking about having his car stolen. It was found, severely damaged, about 4 blocks from where it was stolen. The lawyer's reaction? "That guy must have needed it (the car) more than I did." Really? No, that guy took your property and went for a joyride that ended poorly and cost the lawyer money." The thief did not NEED the car to get to a job, or bring food home to his family or take them to urgent medical care.

Some people just insist on being victims, and then some even more exceptional ones advertise they want to be victims (Gun free zone / co-exist stickers). Those signs/stickers just tell me the possessor is a moron.
The co-exist sticker means the person displaying it is open-minded and acknowledges that "other" is not a dirty word. Variety is the spice of life. Enjoy your white bread with unsalted butter.

ThirdOfFive 06-06-2022 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2102553)
Actually, the 2nd Amendment said that STATE militiamen were entitled to "bear" their arms. Their arms were black powder muskets that were single shot and required a long time to reload and malfunctioned often. They had an accuracy range of about 50 meters. Nothing in the 2nd Amendment said that "individuals" should "bear arms". That is just the NRA's convenient interpretation.
..........Today's arms shoot with each trigger pull for a possible rate of fire of 45 shots per minute with little recoil and accuracy out to about 500 meters.
............The 2nd Amendment was purposely written ambiguously for its long-ago time. It did NOT come down from GOD and written in stone, like MANY WOULD LIKE US TO BELIEVE.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The word "State", as used above, refers to the nation. Every right in the Bill of Rights protects the American people against Government overreach or oppression. It would be illogical to believe that only one of those ten rights, the Second Amendment, does not.

ThirdOfFive 06-06-2022 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2102551)
Half the US gun deaths occur in 100 cities, where about 25% of the population lives. It’s definitely a violence problem, and a lack of respect for life. (Data is from 2015 - it might be more skewed now - I know in Phila gun deaths are up about 100% since 2015, probable the same in most cities)

Here’s the research
Want to fix gun violence in America? Go local. | US gun control | The Guardian
Excellent post! It is getting harder and harder to find objective research or ungarnished facts online. Much appreciated.

MrFlorida 06-06-2022 07:11 AM
Mandatory 20 year jail sentence for anybody comiting a crime with a gun, these outlaws have no fear, make an example out of them.

ThirdOfFive 06-06-2022 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2103071)
Mandatory 20 year jail sentence for anybody comiting a crime with a gun, these outlaws have no fear, make an example out of them.
One of the biggest problems, in my opinion, is that it seems most of the time, when a crime is committed with a gun, the crime (usually in reduced form) is consequated but the criminal act of using a gun in the commission of the crime(s) is not, usually either dropped or plea-bargained away. For myself I would like to see it made mandatory that whenever a crime is committed with a gun, that fact alone should result in an additional ten years tacked on to the sentence for the commission of the crime, no exceptions.

jimbomaybe 06-06-2022 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 2102958)
So, we can cure all this violence by going backward in time to the 1950s? No thank you.
I don't think anyone would advocate turning the clock back to the 50s across the board , but when you have a problem that you did not have before it seems logical and insightful to examine what changes were made and how to make corrections/ adjustments, we learn from mistakes, unintended consequences


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