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billethkid 06-27-2020 07:20 AM

Big or small business if the bar, the ones that are part of a restaurant, are not enforcing the social distancing guideline then they live with the results of their non-compliance.

Could not be any more simple.

Luisa 06-27-2020 07:23 AM

I was very concerned about the lack of social distancing at this very place last Tuesday. If we want to keep things open, and get our economy going, we need to act responsibly.

Villages Kahuna 06-27-2020 07:39 AM

They weren’t alone. About ten days ago the bar a Cane Garden was two deep all the way around, not a mask in sight. Back to the old normal. Villagers are too old to be immortal.

ColdNoMore 06-27-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1792744)
Truth or Fuction is an excellent site. Glad you caught the misinformation cut and paste quote.

The same cut/paste ended up on numerous threads, but even showing that it's a lie most likely won't change the opinion of those... who want to believe it. :ohdear:


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Villages Kahuna 06-27-2020 07:56 AM

A less self-serving look at the statistics show that it’s pretty deadly to seniors, and it’s a horrible death. Those that do survive are almost certain to have debilitating permanent damage to lungs or other vital organs.

What’s the average age in The Villages?

Carole2200 06-27-2020 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1792485)
By staying home and being safe, you are in control of your retirement & your health

Staying home is a pussycat when compared to being under water on a ballistic missile submarine from 74 -86 days, how do I know I did it !!

Thanks for your service. How did you do it? I could not stand being under water.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-27-2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1792856)
Consumption of alcohol is acceptable with meal but bars section is closed.

No, the bar section IN a restaurant is still open.

The only thing being shut down are stand-alone bars. For instance: the tiki huts at the town squares. They don't serve food there at all. They are bars.

As far as I know, the Villages doesn't have any actual bars on any of its properties, so we aren't affected by this change.

If you leave the Villages and go to some areas outside, you'll see some bars. Those are closed.

fastboat 06-27-2020 08:24 AM

SUBMARINE, I don't think so.
 
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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1792485)
By staying home and being safe, you are in control of your retirement & your health

Staying home is a pussycat when compared to being under water on a ballistic missile submarine from 74 -86 days, how do I know I did it !!

You weren't on a SUBMARINE, you were on an underwater Hotel. How do I know, I did it.

dwhite5773 06-27-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1792427)
I'm heading heading for my "man-cave", I mean "person-cave" to see if I can get a table for 1. Please, don't worry about me, I will/do wear a mask and I have 86 proof oral rinse.

Better make that oral rinse 90+ proof! 😎

crash 06-27-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1792409)
Looks like phase 2 just got shot in the butt. Fl has just order all bars to stop selling alcohol. That was short lived.

And I'm pointing a finger @ a local watering hole, places like City Fire LSL, shot themselves in both feet.

Had to blow it for $$

You do realize that City Fire is a restaurant and not a bar and will still be selling liquor. If 50% of their income is from food they are good to go.

Not sure of any bars in the Villages except maybe World of Beer.

brunogal 06-27-2020 08:39 AM

Back in Ohio
 
I'm a snowbird who arrived back in Ohio on 6/6. Ohio was pretty buttoned up until that very week. Places opened allowing 50% capacity. Policy was/is to sit down, order a drink and DON'T GET UP AND WALK AROUND W/IT. (Ya, I caught hell.) Problem is in the summertime boardwalk situation (here on Lake Erie) filled w/vacationers, nary a mask in sight. Our numbers are rising here, too, but nothing like Florida. I am a bit surprised Gov. DeWine here hasn't insisted on masking as he has been out in front of the crisis in the past.

TandHSTAR@AOL.com 06-27-2020 08:41 AM

Bars are not allowed to serve. Some are saying places like City Fire is a restaurant not a bar. Have you seen the "outside restaurant" of City Fire. Wall to wall.people around the "not a bar" area. They are not eating they are drinking alcohol. Hmmm I must be mistaken thinking it's not a bar.

shut the front door 06-27-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TandHSTAR@AOL.com (Post 1792989)
Bars are not allowed to serve. Some are saying places like City Fire is a restaurant not a bar. Have you seen the "outside restaurant" of City Fire. Wall to wall.people around the "not a bar" area. They are not eating they are drinking alcohol. Hmmm I must be mistaken thinking it's not a bar.

It's been answered multiple times in this thread. The definition explained ad nauseum. Does anyone actually read a thread before hitting the reply button?

waverly51 06-27-2020 09:05 AM

The order was for bars/lounges. City Fire is a restaurant with a bar. There is a difference.

dewilson58 06-27-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1792957)
No, the bar section IN a restaurant is still open.

The only thing being shut down are stand-alone bars. For instance: the tiki huts at the town squares. They don't serve food there at all. They are bars.

As far as I know, the Villages doesn't have any actual bars on any of its properties, so we aren't affected by this change.

If you leave the Villages and go to some areas outside, you'll see some bars. Those are closed.


FMK Restaurant Group owner Fred Karimipour said his eateries will continue to serve alcohol to customers who are sitting at tables but will suspend bar top seating and live entertainment. “We have removed bar service in accordance of the governor’s order,” said Karimipour, who owns Bluefin Grill & Bar in Brownwood, The Chop House at Lake Sumter Landing, Belle Glade Country Club, Bonifay Country Club, Evans Prairie Country Club, Orange Blossom Hills Country Club and Scooples Ice Cream Parlor.


Gina Buell, who along with her husband, Mike, owns the City Fire restaurants in Lake Sumter Landing and Brownwood, said she was doing the same thing. She said her customers still will be able to order drinks when seated at tables inside and outside the eateries but not at the bar area.

tophcfa 06-27-2020 09:09 AM

I assume the the walk up kiosk bars in the town squares would fall under the closure guidelines. That very well might derail the planned re-opening of the town squares.

billethkid 06-27-2020 09:13 AM

People may call it what ever they "think" it is or should be.

However the restaurants that do have an outside bar....that is exactly what it is.... a BAR!!!!

Just because it is part of a restaurant does not allow seating shoulder to shoulder X 3 deep....in violation of the requirement for social distancing.

The owners/operators should be held accountable for contributing to the potential spreading of the virus.

No comment on those being inconsiderate, sitting shoulder to shoulder X 3 deep at the bar (I am trying to remain as polite as possible)

retiredguy123 06-27-2020 09:19 AM

If the governor is going to issue an executive order, I think he should have someone write it clearly so that all people with normal intelligence can understand what it means.

44Apple 06-27-2020 09:23 AM

Big rush to open by at least three Governors have gotten them and us deep into this mess. Now, the backpeddling is on.

billethkid 06-27-2020 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1793027)
If the governor is going to issue an executive order, I think he should have someone write it clearly so that all people with normal intelligence can understand what it means.

Would that not allow far too many to not comprehend?
:duck:

DonH57 06-27-2020 09:36 AM

I'm sure there were many bars in Florida that never made their customers practice social distancing and never controlled seating arrangements forcing the closure. I've passed by a couple of these very same bars in the villages. They just had to go and shoot themselves in the foot and ruin it for the places that would have opened otherwise. I was surprised it took this long.

cassjax2 06-27-2020 09:39 AM

To clarify.....if a restaurant or bar’s revenue is more than 50% from the sale of alcohol then they are shut down.

retiredguy123 06-27-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cassjax2 (Post 1793046)
To clarify.....if a restaurant or bar’s revenue is more than 50% from the sale of alcohol then they are shut down.

Not to be nit picky, but, as I read the executive order, if I own a restaurant with more than 50 percent revenue from alcohol, I don't need to shut down. I can just reduce the amount of alcohol or the price, so that my alcohol sales are below 50 percent. Wouldn't that be better than shutting down my entire business?

Byte1 06-27-2020 12:42 PM

It would be funny if not so darn ridiculous. Alcohol kills the virus, therefore drink lots of it to sanitize your insides, out. Just plain common sense....:wine::beer3:

Everyone knows that the spike is attributed to all the crowding during the protests. But, it is not PC to say it in public, because it might offend someone and the politicians will lose their votes.

crydzanich 06-27-2020 01:30 PM

I was at a restaurant last night that had the bar area roped off. Still serving alcohol at tables. The waiters had masks and gloves. Every other booth was roped off and tables were at least 6 ft apart.

jimjamuser 06-27-2020 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1792478)
Staying trapped inside of my house, looking at the 4 walls closing in on me is not the way that I want to spend my hard earned retirement. We'll be confined to assisted living/nursing homes before we know it, but I'm certainly not going to check myself in there prematurely.

Hoping/praying this Covid-19 stuff ends soon. The sooner the better.

There are 4 walls in a coffin also, last I checked.

JoMar 06-27-2020 01:42 PM

I suspect that someone will call the department of health one of these days and let them make the decision if it is a bar or not. I don't drink so not an issue for me but I know some that consider selling alcohol an "essential" business.

jimjamuser 06-27-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1792510)
Thank you for your service. But the difference is that you signed up to be on that ballistic sub and I am also assuming that you were paid to be there and have received retirement and other benefits for your service. I am also assuming that you committed yourself to doing that tough job in order to protect the freedom and security of our country. If you want to get a drink at a bar, you should be able to get a danged drink at the bar.

This business of forcing our businesses to close down shop and making law abiding citizens feel like heartless criminals for going to the gym or getting a haircut is ridiculous. All of this while rioters and looters run the street creating unchecked death and destruction. Honestly, I don't understand what is happening in this country, I just know that I do not have the energy nor the desire to deal with that stuff. I would love to find a nice oasis where I can play golf, go to the pool, play cards, take classes and go out for dinner/drinks/entertainment. I want to see smiles, not masks. Friends, not bullies.

I believe that the experts have stated that Covid-19 is far less deadly than originally feared. Why on earth are we still treating it like the plague? I guess I'm just over this whole thing and have been for awhile. It's really disappointing to see these restrictions coming back. I hate it.

We are treating it like a Plague because it is one. S.Korea is back playing baseball. Things are MORE normal in New Zealand and Europe because THEY have good health care and reacted better. Perhaps "looking for blame in all the wrong places"?

jimjamuser 06-27-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1792803)
Restrictions are coming back because there are too many people not adhering to the guidelines that have been set to handle this pandemic. Too many people are refusing to wear masks in public when social distancing is not guaranteed. If everyone took responsibility to slow the transmission of this virus, America would not be in the dire situation it is in now. Following the guidelines!

Leadership, leadership.

jimjamuser 06-27-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Eg_cruz@comcast.net (Post 1792813)
Yes the person who doesn’t own or work at one. Most bars are owned by a small business owner, call them up and tell them it no big deal......selfish minded people

Any business needs a rainy day fund. In this case a Plague day fund!

jimjamuser 06-27-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1792910)
They weren’t alone. About ten days ago the bar a Cane Garden was two deep all the way around, not a mask in sight. Back to the old normal. Villagers are too old to be immortal.

They can be immoral.

Scorpyo 06-27-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1792440)
So what does that mean? You buy a drink "to go" and stand outside on the sidewalk drinking it?

What about bars with outdoor seating. Are the customers allowed to sit outside? I haven't been to a bar in what seems like forever so I really don't know how they are enforcing this or why they are singling out bars for these types of restrictions. Not that I want to see these restrictions applied elsewhere.....

Stand outside and drink it? How preposterous, learn some etiquette. Get in your car, turn on some good music, get on 75, do about 90 and enjoy your cocktail. Everybody knows that. :1rotfl:

sjgreene5 06-27-2020 03:44 PM

Really you need to look at statistics . There have only been 7 cases in the villages during the latest out break one from a golf club worker, on at Rohan and non that I have read were from a bar. However if you would read 67% of the latest Florida cases were people under 30. So read more and criticize less

Scorpyo 06-27-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1792427)
I'm heading heading for my "man-cave", I mean "person-cave" to see if I can get a table for 1. Please, don't worry about me, I will/do wear a mask and I have 86 proof oral rinse.

86 proof? You're obviously not Irish. How about 86 ABV. That'll definitely kill any germs! :1rotfl:

ffresh 06-27-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1792779)
Yes, Florida closed all bars. Liquor can be sold still at restaurants. Broward County never opened their bars yet, so no big deal. I doubt the world will end if you cant go to a bar.

Every post of yours that I have read are laced with common sense. However, in this case, I'm guessing that you're forgetting It might mean the end for the small business owner trying to put bread on the table for his family … after paying his landlord each month for the privilege to stay closed. How is anyone in authority (ignoring Constitutional implications) able to pick and choose which businesses are permitted to make a living; social distancing, or whatever else is required, should be universal for all, without favoritism shown! In my opinion, this edict, ultimately, is ripe for a class action suit and I hope it happens. :shocked:

Fred

retiredguy123 06-27-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1793212)
There are 4 walls in a coffin also, last I checked.

Actually, that is a common misconception. A coffin has 6 walls, because it is wider at the top and tapered toward the feet. But, a casket is rectangular and has 4 walls.

ffresh 06-27-2020 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1793240)
Any business needs a rainy day fund. In this case a Plague day fund!

Cute :ohdear:

Fred

Barborv 06-27-2020 04:31 PM

Thank you Chatbrat for your service.

When you abuse you lose! People are just not following the guidelines and this is why we are seeing a resurgence. Also, How the heck were people allowed to protest in the streets or go to George Floyds funeral, when you weren't even allowed to go to a family or friends funeral is beyond me.
Sick of all of this!

Davelinda91 06-27-2020 06:54 PM

It’s all up to you. I just Drove by City Fire, bar stools are against the outside railing not up at the bar but all seats are taken. No social distancing going on at LSL!

PennBF 06-28-2020 05:27 AM

Simple Rule
 
There is a simple rule for those wondering out without a mask and circulating in groups that don't honor the 6 foot rule. Is what you doing worth risking your life which is exactly what it is doing. Our rule is "what you are or intending to do worth risking your life?" Play with words all you want or continue to kid yourself but as they say,, THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE!!:popcorn:


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