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Bucco 08-24-2020 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1822199)
Having a record does not allow you to be shot however it is rather remarkable that in all the police shootings we have seen the guy getting shot has a record a yard long.

Having said this if the police are guilty they deserve to be held accountable.

And this is an excuse for a new round of riots and destruction.
Wonder, with all the seemingly information we read on here....is there a way to determine if any white guys (or gals) are shot while resisting arrest or thought to ?

There must be one white guy that resisted arrest....do none of them get shot like this.

Serious question....not being a smart aleck. Just seems we always hear about the guy **** having a record....is it a coincidence about skin color ?

Stu from NYC 08-24-2020 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1822252)
There just has to be more than what was seen on the video, or even reported as this started as a domestic dispute, so I'll wait to hear a lot more facts before judging what looks right now to me, like an out of control and scared officer trying to murder him. To justify 7 shots, point blank, into the back of an unarmed man however, it is going to take an awful lot to convince me to even imagine this being justified. As for whatever prior record he had, that has absolutely nothing to do with what the officer did (that's for a jury or judge at the time of any potential sentencing) and it's sad to think that anyone would feel otherwise. I am amazed that the guy is even still alive at this point, so I'm hoping for a full recovery so that our justice system can work like it's supposed to. I am also hoping that people allow the system to work and they don't start rioting, looting or setting things on fire. If they do, they need to be arrested and prosecuted fully.
Seems like rioting has already started. So many of these people seem to be looking at an excuse to steal or destroy other peoples property.

Northerner52 08-24-2020 06:33 PM
And there is no outrage or protesting when blacks kill blacks by the thousands??????

manaboutown 08-24-2020 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1822268)
Wonder, with all the seemingly information we read on here....is there a way to determine if any white guys (or gals) are shot while resisting arrest or thought to ?

There must be one white guy that resisted arrest....do none of them get shot like this.

Serious question....not being a smart aleck. Just seems we always hear about the guy **** having a record....is it a coincidence about skin color ?
• People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

Bucco 08-24-2020 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1822273)
Not exactly what I was looking for, but interesting numbers.

Police shootings of any color has exploded...why isn't that a story by any race.

Not an expert but have known a LOT of police officers over the years. Always felt there were some seriously aggressive officers, and have doubted why some became police.

Not an ok for rioting by any stretch, but I do realize what angers blacks.....now I ask why is not the general population upset about the sudden and dramatic increase in police shooting citizens.

manaboutown 08-24-2020 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1822279)
Not exactly what I was looking for, but interesting numbers.

Police shootings of any color has exploded...why isn't that a story by any race.

Not an expert but have known a LOT of police officers over the years. Always felt there were some seriously aggressive officers, and have doubted why some became police.

Not an ok for rioting by any stretch, but I do realize what angers blacks.....now I ask why is not the general population upset about the sudden and dramatic increase in police shooting citizens.
Shootings and other violent crimes have recently dramatically increased in number in some large cities such as NYC, Chicago, Baltimore and others. This has of course brought about more criminal-police encounters. If criminals behave as many do, such as not keeping their hands in sight, resisting arrest, appearing to be reaching for a weapon, or threatening with a weapon they are likely to get shot by LEOs. In all but a very few cases, a criminal's behavior is what causes him to be shot. They tend to be the dimmer bulbs on the tree, no matter their race.

Kerry Azz 08-24-2020 07:12 PM
Wow what did George Floyd do wrong?
I guess the officer that had his knee on his neck for almost 9 minutes while he was cuffed up was in danger for his life!
Your comment speaks in volume as to what type of mindset you have!

Dgizzi 08-24-2020 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1821928)
Major news reported a police shooting of a black man yesterday. Showed the black man refusing to listen to the police then reached into his car for something, then police shot him.

Why can't they just listen to the police for the moment. Now it is the policeman's fault. Bad kids.
Yes. If you commit a crime, don’t run from the police. How many “white” people get shot by police? Do we riot every time.

Nucky 08-24-2020 08:22 PM
My life matters. I am a Caucasian. If I get a directive from an officer and it has been a while I did obey. I don't make any sudden movements or make the officer think he or she is at risk. My hands are on the wheel when I get pulled over and I let the officer know immediately about the weapons in the car.

I give respect, I get respect. I also try not to judge. I wasn't one of the officers on the scene. The ENTIRE story must be found out not just a few snippets on the news.

Northwoods 08-24-2020 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1822279)
Not exactly what I was looking for, but interesting numbers.

Police shootings of any color has exploded...why isn't that a story by any race.

Not an expert but have known a LOT of police officers over the years. Always felt there were some seriously aggressive officers, and have doubted why some became police.

Not an ok for rioting by any stretch, but I do realize what angers blacks.....now I ask why is not the general population upset about the sudden and dramatic increase in police shooting citizens.
Why aren't we all outraged about the increase in violence in America. Last weekend 64 people were shot across Chicago, seven of them fatally. A 12-year-old boy and six teenagers were among those wounded.

In New York CIty at least 45 people were shot, eight fatally, since Friday.

Six people were shot, one killed in weekend shootings across Portland.

Why aren't we outraged about this? Why isn't this the lead story on national news? Why aren't we trying to understand and reduce violence in our cities.

Why is the media laser focused on 1 police shooting in Kenosha, WI when 64 + 45 + 6 people were shot and 16 were killed in just 3 cities over the weekend?

John41 08-24-2020 09:51 PM
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billyb1950 08-25-2020 04:44 AM
You're right...as in past situations like these, MSM would likely portray him as an upstanding member of the church choir, valedictorian of his class, and a volunteer in the community, all while showing innocent photos of him in his youth.

camaguey48 08-25-2020 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1822287)
Wow what did George Floyd do wrong?
I guess the officer that had his knee on his neck for almost 9 minutes while he was cuffed up was in danger for his life!
Your comment speaks in volume as to what type of mindset you have!
George was a career criminal. Look up his record. Not a choir boy.

Tell us more about Darius Sessoms, the man who murdered five year old Cannon Hannin in Wilson, N.C. On August 9th. Are you ok with that?

Love2Swim 08-25-2020 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1822287)
Wow what did George Floyd do wrong?
I guess the officer that had his knee on his neck for almost 9 minutes while he was cuffed up was in danger for his life!
Your comment speaks in volume as to what type of mindset you have!
Agree. Its pretty clear what they mindset is. This country has a long way to go. No wonder people of color get upset. This has been going on for hundreds of years. Rioting and looting is wrong, but I can understand why they feel as they do - the frustration, the feeling of powerlessness.

Love2Swim 08-25-2020 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1822252)
There just has to be more than what was seen on the video, or even reported as this started as a domestic dispute, so I'll wait to hear a lot more facts before judging what looks right now to me, like an out of control and scared officer trying to murder him. To justify 7 shots, point blank, into the back of an unarmed man however, it is going to take an awful lot to convince me to even imagine this being justified. As for whatever prior record he had, that has absolutely nothing to do with what the officer did (that's for a jury or judge at the time of any potential sentencing) and it's sad to think that anyone would feel otherwise. I am amazed that the guy is even still alive at this point, so I'm hoping for a full recovery so that our justice system can work like it's supposed to. I am also hoping that people allow the system to work and they don't start rioting, looting or setting things on fire. If they do, they need to be arrested and prosecuted fully.
I agree. I'm really shocked that people see a person's prior record as an excuse to shoot them, and we don't even know if the police were aware of his record at the time of the shooting. And speaking of records, supposed it was a white woman who was a prostitute, instead of a black man with a history of third degree spousal abuse? Should she be treated differently because of the type of crime she committed? Or are police going to treat a car thief differently? Or how about a businessman who committed fraud? If it was a white guy in a suit going back to check on his children would they have been so quick to pump 7 shots into his BACK? I think if we are honest we know the answer to that question.


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