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jimjamuser 03-09-2021 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by matandch (Post 1912923)
No. Still risky even after fully vaccinated. Pfizer and and Moderna vaccines have 95% efficacy. Behave like you’re one of the 5% failure group.

The 5% is NOT such a bad failure as you are implying. Both Pfizer and Moderna protect 100% against VERY bad symptoms of CV, like hospitalization and death. You do have a 5% chance of getting mild to medium bad symptoms, not needing hospitalization.

jimjamuser 03-09-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 1913162)
Follow the science and make informed decisions. For example, depending on your immune system, you can still contract COVID 19 even if vaccinated. The latest science is that your symptoms will be milder and you likely will not need hospitalization nor a ventilator. Whether you can spread the virus after vaccination is still being evaluated although early data from other countries shows you are less likely to infect others. If you have other health factors then consult your own physician. Be sensitive to others who may not have been vaccinated, particularly if you travel to third world areas or visit grand children.

I agree. I read that you can STILL get it even IF vaccinated.

davem4616 03-09-2021 08:50 PM

by the end of March we'll both have had the two shots...and we'll finally start going to restaurants again

in mid April we drive up to Savannah and then on to Beaufort for a ten day escape

Memorial Day weekend we'll have driven up to Cleveland to visit relatives and sight seeing on the way back

in early August we're driving up to New England to visit family and friends....that'll be close to a 3 week jaunt
not sure what we do after that

forgoing air travel and cruising this year

thelegges 03-10-2021 10:31 AM

Looks like many heading north. TV will be quiet this summer

Tmarkwald 03-10-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1913404)
I agree. I read that you can STILL get it even IF vaccinated.

That is unverified at this time. If you read the language it is designed to cover all the bases for legal reasons. So far there haven't been any confirmed cases past the 4 week mark after the second shot.

Bill14564 03-10-2021 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1913672)
That is unverified at this time. If you read the language it is designed to cover all the bases for legal reasons. So far there haven't been any confirmed cases past the 4 week mark after the second shot.

Wasn't the 95% number derived from the reduction of cases in the vaccinated portion of the trial? If so then there must have been some confirmed cases during the trials or they would have claimed 100% effective.

If the vaccines are 95% effective then the chance of becoming infected after vaccination is small but it is not zero.

Tmarkwald 03-10-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1913682)
Wasn't the 95% number derived from the reduction of cases in the vaccinated portion of the trial? If so then there must have been some confirmed cases during the trials or they would have claimed 100% effective.

If the vaccines are 95% effective then the chance of becoming infected after vaccination is small but it is not zero.

Just like other vaccines, the inoculation does not take in certain people. So, although 95% are protected, the other 5% can possibly catch and carry the virus. Of those that can possibly be infected, they'd have to come in contact with another person who is infected.

My point was that it hasn't been shown that successfully inoculated people can carry the virus. We can safely assume that the 5% who were unsuccessful in getting inoculated could carry the virus.

Some people undoubtedly will not have an inoculation 'take'. I am one of those rare people that had the smallpox vaccine given to me many times. It never 'took'. I never got the smallpox 'scar' so every year they would consistently give me another one. Did no good. never scarred, never blistered. Last time they tried was when I entered boot camp.

It will be interesting as time goes by and booster shots are given if that 5% dwindles down to nearly zero. Of course, there's no easy way to tell except Covid would simply go away, like SARS, MERS, etc..

DeanFL 03-10-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1913682)
Wasn't the 95% number derived from the reduction of cases in the vaccinated portion of the trial? If so then there must have been some confirmed cases during the trials or they would have claimed 100% effective.

If the vaccines are 95% effective then the chance of becoming infected after vaccination is small but it is not zero.

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Must say I am befuddled by all this 95% - 5% stuff. I tend to use analogies all the time.

So for this one, I'd say - if you're a senior and you may have a strong chance to develop, perhaps-fatal, coronary heart disease or cancer or dementia (you name the disease), and there was a medication/vaccine that has been tested to be 95% EFFECTIVE - would you question getting it?
For me, it's a slam-dunk. period.
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Ecuadog 03-10-2021 03:27 PM

We are booked on an Azamara cruise come this November, but might cancel for a reason other than Covid.

jimjamuser 03-10-2021 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1913682)
Wasn't the 95% number derived from the reduction of cases in the vaccinated portion of the trial? If so then there must have been some confirmed cases during the trials or they would have claimed 100% effective.

If the vaccines are 95% effective, then the chance of becoming infected after vaccination is small but it is not zero.

Both vaccines give 100% chance of NOT getting hospitalized and dying from CV. There is, however, a 5% chance that you get CV but the symptoms are mostly mild.

G.R.I.T.S. 03-21-2021 08:50 PM

We visited family twice last year. Took all necessary precautions. Stayed in hotels. Used common sense.

60North 03-22-2021 12:17 AM

The "fear" of the disease hasn't stopped me from travelling yet, vaccine or no vaccine, only the legal restrictions (Europe and others) have been a limitation. I now have my second vaccination, but yellow fever, dengue fever (which I have contracted), malaria and so many other diseases haven't prevented my travel, neither will this.


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