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bluecenturian 06-18-2020 05:13 AM

You are so ignorant to make such a statement when you are completely uniformed. You are not prevued to Any if the info that is being investigated so why not leave it up to the expert investigators.

But here is some issues to consider.

The DA is under investigation for stealing money, in an election year.

GBI was totally unaware if the announcement of the charges since they have not completed their investigation nor submitted their report to the DA.

Georgia law doesn’t not allow a felony arrest warrant to be drawn up unless the DA convened a grand jury. No grand jury has been convened however, he issued warrants for the cops.

The officer that is a state witness is false. His attorney has said he is answering questions however, he has not said he is a state witness.

There has not been any video of the officer “kicking” the criminal. They have a still image that show his leg bent and they are assuming he kicked him.

The officers didn’t give aid, false. Body camera shows them doing CPR.

The DA just said 2 weeks ago in another case that a taser is a “deadly weapon” under Georgia law. Georgia Code Title 16. Crimes and Offenses SS 16-11-127.1 | FindLaw

The US Supreme Court has already ruled that a police Officer can shoot a fleeing felon if he believes he can cause death or serious bodily injury. The criminal fired a taser toward the officer which was in the vicinity of the officers head, that’s serious physical injury in every state.

Tennessee v. Garner :: 471 U.S. 1 (1985) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center

Stop trying to create dissection. It is irresponsible and disgraceful.

riley2011 06-18-2020 05:18 AM

He shouldn’t have resisted arrest, shouldn’t have gotten into a fight, shouldn’t have stolen the taser and shouldn’t have fired it at the cops. And he shouldn’t have been driving drunk which is what started it all in the first place.

stadry 06-18-2020 05:45 AM

there is no atlanta atty genl - there is a city atty + a county district atty w/jurisdiction - fulton cty - he's likely got political aspirations to be governor someday as evidenced by his usual quik responses & ill-timed remarks
under ga law, possession of a stun gun is a felony - this followed the assault against the police officer,,, under ga law, police response was justified,,, policing brass is another issue & probably warrants internal charges rather than criminal
blame false reporting for the testifying issue
i don't agree w/overcharging which is usually a suckup action to appease loud voices,,, burning wendy's thereby displacing over 40 worker's jobs, depriving the neighborhood of a food source, & committing arson is idiotic,,, the insurance claim, if any, will be denied due to the policy's civil unrest clause

LucyP 06-18-2020 05:56 AM

It’s been justified! Cops follow procedures. I have details contact me .

Windguy 06-18-2020 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 1786352)
Seems like a common thread to all of these deaths is NOT COOPERATING with the police. Quit attacking cops

First off, I think most minorities are terrified of cops and that sheer terror takes over and they do irrational things.

I’ve found that if there’s a bee or a hornet buzzing around, they never attack me if I stay calm and don’t swat at them. Yet I’ve seen people who are allergic to stings swatting away at them and trying to run away. These behaviors are a signal to the bees that you are a threat and they defend themselves. It’s interesting how people can be so terrified that they do the worst possible thing.

Please try to put yourself in the shoes of minorities who live their lives in terror. I know it’s easy to be judgmental because you’ve never experienced what they go through, but we all need to try to understand.

bluecenturian 06-18-2020 06:12 AM

Atlanta was policeless.
 
Atlanta has 6 zones, most cops in 4 of the 6 zones took a city approved mental health day. Those that showed up did each call by the book. 2-3 hours each. The city had a backlog of 673 calls at its highest point. Surrounding agencies were unable to respond to the city because it would have left their areas of responsibilities unstaffed. The Georgia state police refused to respond because their training is specific to traffic related issues and they are not trained to handle calls for service that a local agency is responsible for.

This is just a preview of what will happen when you define the police. You will not get help for a significant time due to lack of staffing.

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1786535)
I'm hearing word that in one police precinct in Atlanta, all the officers are calling in sick. Geez....I hope they get better.
Steve


kenoc7 06-18-2020 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 1786352)
Seems like a common thread to all of these deaths is NOT COOPERATING with the police. Quit attacking cops, save your story for the judge, and everyone lives. There are approximately 60 MILLION interactions per year between police and civilians (over 16). Obviously, lots of people are cooperating, but some CHOOSE TO NOT COOPERATE. I wonder why?

Whataboutism at its worst. No one should be shot in the back when running away.

GoodLife 06-18-2020 06:15 AM

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not only is a taser not considered a "deadly" weapon

Video of the Atlanta DA stating "a taser is considered a deadly weapon under Georgia law"

Twitter

According to Amnesty International 291 people have been killed by tasers

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kenoc7 06-18-2020 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 1786373)
I honestly don't know the legal particulars of this shooting. Some cops say legal, others say no. I've heard "lawful but awful".

Common sense dictates that if you drive drunk, pass out in a fast-food drive-thru line, attack/physically assault and overpower TWO cops, then steal one of the cop's tasers and fire it at him... to a large extent, you own what comes your way.

Just watched the video again and the police were very cordial. Mr. Brooks is the one who initiated and attacked the cops. He threw two punches at one of the officers. The attacked officer responded by firing his taser at Mr. Brooks. In what world is it okay to physically attack a police officer? Why is anyone possibly defending Mr. Brook's action?

Like I said before... it's not a difficult concept - cooperate with the police, defend yourself in front of a judge, and everyone lives another day.

Do you understand why he resisted being handcuffed? He was turning his life around but was on probation and being arrested would send him back to jail. Why did they have to cuff him? He was cordial and was no threat to anyone, just let him walk home.

greenflash245 06-18-2020 06:17 AM

maybe trip and fall down a flight of stairs. save lot of problems

kenoc7 06-18-2020 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1786413)
definitely justified use of force.. if it happened to a white guy no one would care

How can you justify shooting someone in the back twice when they are running away? Definitely unjustified - black, white or purple.

kenoc7 06-18-2020 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1786424)
It is an undoubtedly futile attempt to appease the violent rioting, looting criminal out of control mob. The police could be charged and tried but these charges are ridiculously over the top. When the shooting is found to be justified in a court of law the looting, rioting and other criminal behavior will come back even worse. This is an ill-conceived not well thought out tactic. Those in charge should stand firm but of course they will not which will eventually exacerbate the situation.

The cops involved in the grievous George Floyd homicide should be tried in a court of law but these guys were likely justified. It was a very different situation.

“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” Thomas Paine

You need to take note of your own quote. It isn't reasonable to suggest that shooting someone twice in the back is justified.

Girlcopper 06-18-2020 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1786363)
Well, scratch my #6 above...in Post #5. :oops:

It sounds like Brosnan is NOT going to be cooperating.

I wonder what happened?
:confused:

Nothing happened. It was fake news as usual just as alot of the facts of this scenario are.
A taser isnt a deadly weapon in itself BUT it could disable the cop giving the suspect the opportunity to take his gun.
Yes, he was shot in the back. He turned, pointed the taser at the cop and as the cop took aim on him, he turned to run.
Suspect had a taser and was running towards people with children in the area who could have gotten hurt.
Yes, the cop did stand on his shoulder until he kicked the gun away from his reach. No way of knowing if the suspect would reach for it again.
I didnt see any video where a cop kicked him in the head. And I watched them all.
Bottom line. Cooperate and everyone goes home happy.

oldtimes 06-18-2020 06:32 AM

So innocent until proven guilty has been replaced with guilty by social media. What's next do we bring back lynching?

44Apple 06-18-2020 06:38 AM

Seeing how many police officers have cut and run lately is something else. I don't know which is worse, those that quit individually or those who do it "en masse" to leverage their power. These people took an oath and the realization that they can't hack it when their communities really need them to step up, be responsive and accountable is pathetic. Almost makes me wonder if people are quitting because they realize they finally WILL be held accountable and they won't be able to get away with half the stuff they've done in the past.


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