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Scorpyo 06-18-2020 12:14 PM

The cop should have used a less intrusive approach. Not really. He was not required to stop and think about other alternatives. No it’s not my uniformed opinion. Here’s a good link.
Scott v. Henrich – Case Brief Summary (Federal Court) | Lawpipe
Supreme Court decision. But why would a prejudiced DA care about a Supreme Court decision.

Steve9930 06-18-2020 12:51 PM

The only opinion that will matter is the opinion of 12 people on the Jury. All the rest of this is nothing but hot air making money for Talk of the Villages.

wamley 06-18-2020 01:59 PM

The cop is volunteering, because he was charged with 3 crimes. Can't figire out how he was charged with anything. He's not part of a split second decision his partner makes by shooting. Being charged with 3 crimes will make most "volunteer" to testify against his partner in an effort to get out of his own jam. Officers were charged quickly to help prevent violence in fear of what happen in Minneapolis. Lack of compliance with Police officers direction cause most of these incidents.

holmesperdue 06-18-2020 01:59 PM

Let's see; a fleeing person who not a danger to the general public gets killed. The cops know his name and could have picked him up later for resisting arrest. But instead someone makes a decision to take a life... I guess who all should be careful to not do something stupid... does life not have value - think about it ....

graciegirl 06-18-2020 02:03 PM

I had posted a link from The Today Show this morning about Rayshard Brooks, a tape previously recorded by him, that said he felt that after his incarceration for "False Imprisonment and Credit Card Fraud", he felt that the "system let him down" and that he should have been funded in some way after getting out of prison. Now all those words are gone from any link I can find. They have titles like...a heartbreaking tape in his own words...etc.

It is gone from this forum too, my original link. My post. Sometimes I wonder what is happening in this world. I found many links but not the original one that I felt gave a clear picture of this man who was indeed killed by a police officer after he took the officers taser from him and ran and fired twice at the officer.

It was probably removed along with another post that I had responded to, but I am so surprised when I go to a browser that has been "cleaned" by some unseen entity. I am not disputing our moderator, just sad my post is gone, but I am sure it was fairly removed because of my response to another post.

I thought we could trust the transparency of the fair journalism in this country but it really looks like we see what "they" want us to see.

Here is a version that doesn't have the full transcription;...all I could find.
Video emerges of Rayshard Brooks being interviewed months before death: "Look at us as individuals" - CBS News

manaboutown 06-18-2020 02:17 PM

GG, I am having the same problem. Factual sources of what Floyd and Brooks were really like, their criminal histories, number of illegitimate children they fathered and so on have literally disappeared from the internet. Even using alternate search engines is not working. The IT powers that be have scrubbed any background data on these men that reflects negatively in any way upon them.

It is digital book burning!

manaboutown 06-18-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by holmesperdue (Post 1787156)
Let's see; a fleeing person who not a danger to the general public gets killed. The cops know his name and could have picked him up later for resisting arrest. But instead someone makes a decision to take a life... I guess who all should be careful to not do something stupid... does life not have value - think about it ....

It happens again and again and again. Massachusetts police officer killed after attacked with rock, shot with own gun, officials say | Fox News

Don Ferguson 06-18-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 1786665)
Seeing how many police officers have cut and run lately is something else. I don't know which is worse, those that quit individually or those who do it "en masse" to leverage their power. These people took an oath and the realization that they can't hack it when their communities really need them to step up, be responsive and accountable is pathetic. Almost makes me wonder if people are quitting because they realize they finally WILL be held accountable and they won't be able to get away with half the stuff they've done in the past.

I completely disagree with premise. I personally can't comprehend ANY competent and honorable person becoming a police officer. They are underpaid and more importantly under respected for a complex and terribly difficult and dangerous job.
Geometrically more police officers are innocently assassinated in our country than minority deaths that occur!

Don Ferguson 06-18-2020 02:46 PM

Just as I was preparing to "raise my hand" in opinion. I read bluecenturions response #46 and it mirrors my opinion exactly.

Both officers are being improperly overcharged by a politician that is being investigated for multiple serious charges and if an honorable person would have long ago stepped down while investigations continue.

It is laughable that the DA states in his charges that a TASER is not a deadly weapon, when he has just filed charges against another police officer for discharging a deadly weapon TASER!

BIG REMINDER: The jury charges are for them to consider NOT what a reasonable person would do in this case, but rather what a reasonable police officer would do. Can't see any way offivers lose!

Spikearoni 06-18-2020 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1787159)
I had posted a link from The Today Show this morning about Rayshard Brooks, a tape previously recorded by him, that said he felt that after his incarceration for "False Imprisonment and Credit Card Fraud", he felt that the "system let him down" and that he should have been funded in some way after getting out of prison. Now all those words are gone from any link I can find. They have titles like...a heartbreaking tape in his own words...etc.

It is gone from this forum too, my original link. My post. Sometimes I wonder what is happening in this world. I found many links but not the original one that I felt gave a clear picture of this man who was indeed killed by a police officer after he took the officers taser from him and ran and fired twice at the officer.

It was probably removed along with another post that I had responded to, but I am so surprised when I go to a browser that has been "cleaned" by some unseen entity. I am not disputing our moderator, just sad my post is gone, but I am sure it was fairly removed because of my response to another post.

I thought we could trust the transparency of the fair journalism in this country but it really looks like we see what "they" want us to see.

Here is a version that doesn't have the full transcription;...all I could find.
Video emerges of Rayshard Brooks being interviewed months before death: "Look at us as individuals" - CBS News

When Brooks was dying on the ground after having been shot in the back twice, he was repeatedly kicked by the officer; Brooks was not a danger to those policemen. All involved had shared in a lengthy, rather friendly conversation prior to the shooting. Brooks was on probation and knew that his run-in with the police would not bode very well with his PO so he took off. The entire incident is very sad, for the police as well as for Brooks.

I saw the video to which you refer and my take on it is that Brooks suggested that newly released ex-convicts need help upon their release if they are to become productive citizens. They require assistance re-entering society and finding a job; they need a mentor to help them when problems arise. He recognized that he made mistakes and wanted to be a "good father" but had to overcome many obstacles in addition to having a prison record on his resume. I didn't come away from that interview with the notion that he just wanted "funds" or a hand-out.

It costs many thousands of dollars to house prisoners just for one year. It would make sense to lower the recividism rate by providing the kind of assistance that Brooks suggested. It would thereby save the government money if a real effort in that direction came to fruition.

B767drvr 06-18-2020 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1787159)
I had posted a link from The Today Show this morning about Rayshard Brooks, a tape previously recorded by him, that said he felt that after his incarceration for "False Imprisonment and Credit Card Fraud", he felt that the "system let him down" and that he should have been funded in some way after getting out of prison.

I watched the video (CNN link?)... and was struck by a single notion. Mr. Brooks, similar to the BLM movement in general, completely fails to take responsibility for HIS CHOICES. He CHOSE to commit those prior crimes (which resulted in his imprisonment) but won't take ownership of the consequences of his CHOICES. It's a victimhood mentality, that "the system" is against him. It's an essential lesson all parents must teach their children - take ownership of your choices!

ColdNoMore 06-18-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikearoni (Post 1787190)
When Brooks was dying on the ground after having been shot in the back twice, he was repeatedly kicked by the officer; Brooks was not a danger to those policemen. All involved had shared in a lengthy, rather friendly conversation prior to the shooting. Brooks was on probation and knew that his run-in with the police would not bode very well with his PO so he took off. The entire incident is very sad, for the police as well as for Brooks.

I saw the video to which you refer and my take on it is that Brooks suggested that newly released ex-convicts need help upon their release if they are to become productive citizens. They require assistance re-entering society and finding a job; they need a mentor to help them when problems arise. He recognized that he made mistakes and wanted to be a "good father" but had to overcome many obstacles in addition to having a prison record on his resume. I didn't come away from that interview with the notion that he just wanted "funds" or a hand-out.

It costs many thousands of dollars to house prisoners just for one year. It would make sense to lower the recividism rate by providing the kind of assistance that Brooks suggested. It would thereby save the government money if a real effort in that direction came to fruition.


Intelligently and well stated.
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Holpat39 06-18-2020 03:28 PM

Every one has an opinion. Just settle down and let the lawyers, prosecutors and courts decide on this. All you armchair people with your opinions doesn't mean a darn thing.

graciegirl 06-18-2020 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikearoni (Post 1787190)
When Brooks was dying on the ground after having been shot in the back twice, he was repeatedly kicked by the officer; Brooks was not a danger to those policemen. All involved had shared in a lengthy, rather friendly conversation prior to the shooting. Brooks was on probation and knew that his run-in with the police would not bode very well with his PO so he took off. The entire incident is very sad, for the police as well as for Brooks.

I saw the video to which you refer and my take on it is that Brooks suggested that newly released ex-convicts need help upon their release if they are to become productive citizens. They require assistance re-entering society and finding a job; they need a mentor to help them when problems arise. He recognized that he made mistakes and wanted to be a "good father" but had to overcome many obstacles in addition to having a prison record on his resume. I didn't come away from that interview with the notion that he just wanted "funds" or a hand-out.

It costs many thousands of dollars to house prisoners just for one year. It would make sense to lower the recividism rate by providing the kind of assistance that Brooks suggested. It would thereby save the government money if a real effort in that direction came to fruition.

He didn't appear to recognize he made mistakes to me. It seems like he was saying...no big deal. I guess it all depends how you look at it. It is a huge deal for me. I came from a great big family with grandparents giving birth to nine children on both sides. Not a single one of them were incarcerated.

I imagine one of the reasons was this. If they would have been, no one would have paid their bail. We had one of those families that if you burnt your ass, you sit on the blister. They weren't mean or unkind but you...YOU...brother. YOU sister were in charge of what happened to YOU.

Jacob85 06-18-2020 04:45 PM

If I were on the jury I would vote to convict! He shot the guy when he was running away, he knew the stun gun would not shot again, he knew the guy had no other weapons, he endangered the people in the car that was in the line of fire and he kicked him when he was shot and dying!


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